Covers the types of rivets used on boat builds how to install them and when and where to use them
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@peterparsons71414 жыл бұрын
Cheap=Smart. I educated myself aboutgunsmithing a hundred years ago when I was a baby. From the public library I looked at all the literature available. The most comprehensive book I could find , had hundreds of pages “ the first half” on making the tools and techniques required for guns smithing. I have applied same notion to all my other endeavours, from fishing, hunting, fabrication, back packing whatever.... my first trip is not to the store to purchase stuff. Half the stuff I have, my most valuable stuff ie;useful is made /fabricolbled. I like your video for promoting the same idea. I mean all the stuff you buy at the store was once made in someone’s shop. Thanks for sharing...I’m restoring a fishing boat, and wanted some ideas on riveting.
@brucemarshall9521 Жыл бұрын
Have a 10 foot flat boat given to me. Bunch of rivets were loose. Bought a bag of 3/8th long, 3/16th diameter brazers. Made a air hammer rig like yours. The trick is to have the boat hull and seat base or crossbraces smack dab together. Any gap may widen from flex over time is my theory. Brazers will work if done right. I opted to use #10-24 half inch long stainless machine screws with a #10 stainless washer and stainless Ny-Lok nut on the interior side. Used a little bit of JB Weld Marine epoxy under the screw head. It draws the two pieces together tighter than a bull's ass. The screw protrudes a little inside but not enough to poke a hole in bare feet. It's a little unsightly but she floats. Not sure if there would be electrolysis between the aluminum and stainless but I think the JB epoxy will provide a barrier.
@melvinrawlings14572 ай бұрын
New subsciber here. And all i have to say is thank u for showing us how to install rivets and how they work. Keep up the great content and looking forward to more boat content. Much love to ya from Maryland❤❤❤
@JDSOutdoors
2 ай бұрын
Much aprechiated. No new boat stuff for a while but it will happen once I build my new house.
@JamesThompson-xl4yu5 жыл бұрын
I would still silicone the inside to also make a soft cushion the protruding end etc. thanks for the info and DIY rivet hammer :)
@ArkansasFishingVideos7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, about to start a boat project with my 17 yr old son and was not sure the best way to fix leaks on a budget.
@JasonEllison6 жыл бұрын
That bolt would be called a "bucking bar" in aircraft construction.
@stutterish Жыл бұрын
About to start my first boat build ad can't wait to get it started
@markhoppe4391 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I know it has been years since you did this video but it helped me in 2022!
@JDSOutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thats why I do this. Thank you
@OutofWORKoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
thats a great idea on the tools. Just what i needed. Thanks a bunch
@beargibson31006 жыл бұрын
The OEM way is really a two person job.
@democrasywins4 жыл бұрын
brilliant ! great vidio's thanks! stupid question: would it work better with air chisel on other side ? (peen side)
@m.winger15127 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks!
@2steelshells4 жыл бұрын
The air tool is called a rivet set,the bolt head would be a bucking bar.
@johnnytruck20095 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant!!! Thank you!!
@pp-sw1lx4 жыл бұрын
very good . i tried what you did but the rivet on the inside bent and didnt look like your finished product . maybe my rivets were too long . id love to see a boat factory video of how they are installed . I was told they are called “ blind rivets “
@fireantfishing7 жыл бұрын
good video man very informative
@georgep74003 жыл бұрын
How has the closed end river held up over year under the waterline? Example right at the bottom of the hull.
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely have yet to have one fail
@georgep7400
3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend to use a size up? Or if the hole still seems to be okay fitted with a 3/16 bit. Should be okay to use the 3/16.
@chronicawareness99865 жыл бұрын
Thanks allot for this video.
@Troys2216 жыл бұрын
Great job & good advise.
@meposkot4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, your voice sounds creepily close to mine, and it's freaking me out
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Haha nice long lost cousins
@WilkinsonGarrett5 жыл бұрын
looks like the middle one did crack the hull
@sheldonoetter39352 жыл бұрын
I'm repairing my old alum. utility boat and measured the holes after removing some loose rivets. The holes are approx. .170" in diameter. Should I use 5/32" rivets or drill out larger to use 3/16"? I feel the .014" slop (if using 5/32) would be taken up by expansion from the rivet......no? Also, whats best way to cut the rivets? Cutting wheel, pliers, etc? I feel pliers would ruin/flare the end too much....
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I would use 3/16 and also I find the best way is to drill out
@jaydaoud42036 жыл бұрын
Hey man great video, we are trying to repair our aluminum flat bottom, and we are having a hard time figuring out what size closed in rivets to use? Like what diameter and what grip? This is somewhere we will be fishing around so it can’t stick out really far from the boat, don’t want it snagging on us, or I don’t want the kids falling and getting hurt, what would you recommend? ThanksJay
@JDSOutdoors
6 жыл бұрын
Jaleel David you want it to be 3/16-1/4" longer then the thickness of your material. The closed end rivets mushroom nicely and leave a nice rounded edge
@ZackofAllTrades877 жыл бұрын
If only I had seen this a few weeks ago...hahaI used rivets that were way too long and had a hole in the center. I don't have an air hammer anyways. Good video, good info.
@fishhuntadventure
7 жыл бұрын
Zack Hughes you can do this with a ball pein hammer and dolly as well. The air gun is nice, a little quicker, but not required. A good friend with hearing protection might be required either way LOL
@thomaseparks58285 жыл бұрын
I viewed your video, pretty much easy. I'm having a hard time finding closed end rivets. Where on the Internet can't I find them
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
I apologize I just saw this. Amazon I've had the best luck with
@dubsbarry99633 жыл бұрын
I guess there's no issue with dissimilar metals here? In the aluminium auto industry they won't let steel and aluminium get near each other
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
This is why we use aluminum rivets
@robertreed33135 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Efficient looking boat build. Did all 3 types of your rivots end up 3/16 diameter? Keep up the good work and keep your lines wet!
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
I know the regular and closed end are 3/16 for sure. The brazier heads I'm 90% sure I used 3/16. They come in many sizes though
@harleyjune12333 жыл бұрын
awesome - please link the last oem rivet source - thanks in advance
@nicholaswoodard53073 жыл бұрын
What's the dimple you put in your diy bucking bar for? All my bucking bars are smooth and flat
@damianmlamb
2 жыл бұрын
Dimple help round the back side and put a like mushroom top on it instead of flat circle
@trogarmy3 жыл бұрын
what is happening to the rivit on the inside of the boat? is it just getting wider? how does it tighten? thanks
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Yes gets wider
@Mr40tt4 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Captain Carpman
@samuelsarkinen5032 жыл бұрын
Do you have a number to get ahold of to do some rivet repair?
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
I replied to your dm
@AwesomeDocumentary4 жыл бұрын
I thought that was a Minnesota Accent.
@anthonyaviles8665 Жыл бұрын
Do you need to put any sealer on the. Mushroom side
@JDSOutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Don't need to but it never hurts to add a little. I do.
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
Oh okay
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
I have a sylvan 16.5 foot back troller and has a little corrosion and im replacing the transom and I had to pull the z bracket thats is buck riveted on because corrosion was behind it also
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
Im going to add a little more reinforcement To the back im going to use aluminum self taping screws to hold the splash plate on it has steel screws for who ever did it before
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
What type of sealer im thinking of using g flex seal
@GoSunDevils997 жыл бұрын
what did you use to shorten the rivets? Will just a pair of tin snips or some type of shears work?
@JDSOutdoors
7 жыл бұрын
Shane Smith I used a band saw
@jimmiller4951
5 жыл бұрын
He used way to much time to shorten them ... LoL !
@chuckberthoud7907 жыл бұрын
I would also like to know how you shortened the rivet shank. Thanks.
@garrylycos4795
6 жыл бұрын
Dremel with a cut off wheel. Shank should be cut off so 1 1/2 thickness of rivet shaft sticking out.
@StephenBevilacqua
6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid very well done Thank you
@twaldo1004 жыл бұрын
aren't you putting the air hammer on the wrong side?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Nope it goes on the head
@thecarnut59604 жыл бұрын
why not aluminum weld holes ?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Because thin old dirty metal welds look like ass.
@John_D22 жыл бұрын
where did you get those biggest solid rivets ?
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Amazon
@John_D2
2 жыл бұрын
@@JDSOutdoors thanks !
@captlarry-35255 жыл бұрын
bucking tool needs to be heavy..bolt isn't.
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Works just fine in the hundreds of rivets I've installed.
@cutan11746 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What PSI do you set for the air hammer gun?
@mattz7510
6 жыл бұрын
I am also searching for this answer today.
@travisbrown1520
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta have like 50 to 90 pounds
@daar2smiles4 жыл бұрын
Can't find these rivets anywhere
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Which ones I cover multiple
@wish2fish374 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the rivets?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Amazon has them all
@jimmiller49515 жыл бұрын
LoL ! put a regulator on that hammer gun ( you would make one out of a temp gauge probably ) And that bolt your using isn't heavy enough to buck them thar rivets. Sometimes you just gotta spend the $ to do the job right !
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Sure seems heavy enough it's worked well on hundreds of them
@starrstewart70833 жыл бұрын
Woodprix has very good designs and plans.
@chronicawareness99865 жыл бұрын
Ribbet Ribbet
@johnlock36403 жыл бұрын
I did it too. This is what I used Woodprix designs for
@ChattanoogaHasDogs Жыл бұрын
Watched 7 minutes of useless video for 30 seconds of instruction. 😢
Пікірлер: 83
Cheap=Smart. I educated myself aboutgunsmithing a hundred years ago when I was a baby. From the public library I looked at all the literature available. The most comprehensive book I could find , had hundreds of pages “ the first half” on making the tools and techniques required for guns smithing. I have applied same notion to all my other endeavours, from fishing, hunting, fabrication, back packing whatever.... my first trip is not to the store to purchase stuff. Half the stuff I have, my most valuable stuff ie;useful is made /fabricolbled. I like your video for promoting the same idea. I mean all the stuff you buy at the store was once made in someone’s shop. Thanks for sharing...I’m restoring a fishing boat, and wanted some ideas on riveting.
Have a 10 foot flat boat given to me. Bunch of rivets were loose. Bought a bag of 3/8th long, 3/16th diameter brazers. Made a air hammer rig like yours. The trick is to have the boat hull and seat base or crossbraces smack dab together. Any gap may widen from flex over time is my theory. Brazers will work if done right. I opted to use #10-24 half inch long stainless machine screws with a #10 stainless washer and stainless Ny-Lok nut on the interior side. Used a little bit of JB Weld Marine epoxy under the screw head. It draws the two pieces together tighter than a bull's ass. The screw protrudes a little inside but not enough to poke a hole in bare feet. It's a little unsightly but she floats. Not sure if there would be electrolysis between the aluminum and stainless but I think the JB epoxy will provide a barrier.
New subsciber here. And all i have to say is thank u for showing us how to install rivets and how they work. Keep up the great content and looking forward to more boat content. Much love to ya from Maryland❤❤❤
@JDSOutdoors
2 ай бұрын
Much aprechiated. No new boat stuff for a while but it will happen once I build my new house.
I would still silicone the inside to also make a soft cushion the protruding end etc. thanks for the info and DIY rivet hammer :)
Thanks for the vid, about to start a boat project with my 17 yr old son and was not sure the best way to fix leaks on a budget.
That bolt would be called a "bucking bar" in aircraft construction.
About to start my first boat build ad can't wait to get it started
Thanks! I know it has been years since you did this video but it helped me in 2022!
@JDSOutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thats why I do this. Thank you
thats a great idea on the tools. Just what i needed. Thanks a bunch
The OEM way is really a two person job.
brilliant ! great vidio's thanks! stupid question: would it work better with air chisel on other side ? (peen side)
Great video. Thanks!
The air tool is called a rivet set,the bolt head would be a bucking bar.
That was brilliant!!! Thank you!!
very good . i tried what you did but the rivet on the inside bent and didnt look like your finished product . maybe my rivets were too long . id love to see a boat factory video of how they are installed . I was told they are called “ blind rivets “
good video man very informative
How has the closed end river held up over year under the waterline? Example right at the bottom of the hull.
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely have yet to have one fail
@georgep7400
3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend to use a size up? Or if the hole still seems to be okay fitted with a 3/16 bit. Should be okay to use the 3/16.
Thanks allot for this video.
Great job & good advise.
Nice vid, your voice sounds creepily close to mine, and it's freaking me out
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Haha nice long lost cousins
looks like the middle one did crack the hull
I'm repairing my old alum. utility boat and measured the holes after removing some loose rivets. The holes are approx. .170" in diameter. Should I use 5/32" rivets or drill out larger to use 3/16"? I feel the .014" slop (if using 5/32) would be taken up by expansion from the rivet......no? Also, whats best way to cut the rivets? Cutting wheel, pliers, etc? I feel pliers would ruin/flare the end too much....
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I would use 3/16 and also I find the best way is to drill out
Hey man great video, we are trying to repair our aluminum flat bottom, and we are having a hard time figuring out what size closed in rivets to use? Like what diameter and what grip? This is somewhere we will be fishing around so it can’t stick out really far from the boat, don’t want it snagging on us, or I don’t want the kids falling and getting hurt, what would you recommend? ThanksJay
@JDSOutdoors
6 жыл бұрын
Jaleel David you want it to be 3/16-1/4" longer then the thickness of your material. The closed end rivets mushroom nicely and leave a nice rounded edge
If only I had seen this a few weeks ago...hahaI used rivets that were way too long and had a hole in the center. I don't have an air hammer anyways. Good video, good info.
@fishhuntadventure
7 жыл бұрын
Zack Hughes you can do this with a ball pein hammer and dolly as well. The air gun is nice, a little quicker, but not required. A good friend with hearing protection might be required either way LOL
I viewed your video, pretty much easy. I'm having a hard time finding closed end rivets. Where on the Internet can't I find them
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
I apologize I just saw this. Amazon I've had the best luck with
I guess there's no issue with dissimilar metals here? In the aluminium auto industry they won't let steel and aluminium get near each other
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
This is why we use aluminum rivets
Nice video. Efficient looking boat build. Did all 3 types of your rivots end up 3/16 diameter? Keep up the good work and keep your lines wet!
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
I know the regular and closed end are 3/16 for sure. The brazier heads I'm 90% sure I used 3/16. They come in many sizes though
awesome - please link the last oem rivet source - thanks in advance
What's the dimple you put in your diy bucking bar for? All my bucking bars are smooth and flat
@damianmlamb
2 жыл бұрын
Dimple help round the back side and put a like mushroom top on it instead of flat circle
what is happening to the rivit on the inside of the boat? is it just getting wider? how does it tighten? thanks
@JDSOutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Yes gets wider
Thank You! Captain Carpman
Do you have a number to get ahold of to do some rivet repair?
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
I replied to your dm
I thought that was a Minnesota Accent.
Do you need to put any sealer on the. Mushroom side
@JDSOutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Don't need to but it never hurts to add a little. I do.
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
Oh okay
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
I have a sylvan 16.5 foot back troller and has a little corrosion and im replacing the transom and I had to pull the z bracket thats is buck riveted on because corrosion was behind it also
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
Im going to add a little more reinforcement To the back im going to use aluminum self taping screws to hold the splash plate on it has steel screws for who ever did it before
@anthonyaviles8665
Жыл бұрын
What type of sealer im thinking of using g flex seal
what did you use to shorten the rivets? Will just a pair of tin snips or some type of shears work?
@JDSOutdoors
7 жыл бұрын
Shane Smith I used a band saw
@jimmiller4951
5 жыл бұрын
He used way to much time to shorten them ... LoL !
I would also like to know how you shortened the rivet shank. Thanks.
@garrylycos4795
6 жыл бұрын
Dremel with a cut off wheel. Shank should be cut off so 1 1/2 thickness of rivet shaft sticking out.
@StephenBevilacqua
6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid very well done Thank you
aren't you putting the air hammer on the wrong side?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Nope it goes on the head
why not aluminum weld holes ?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Because thin old dirty metal welds look like ass.
where did you get those biggest solid rivets ?
@JDSOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Amazon
@John_D2
2 жыл бұрын
@@JDSOutdoors thanks !
bucking tool needs to be heavy..bolt isn't.
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Works just fine in the hundreds of rivets I've installed.
Thank you! What PSI do you set for the air hammer gun?
@mattz7510
6 жыл бұрын
I am also searching for this answer today.
@travisbrown1520
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta have like 50 to 90 pounds
Can't find these rivets anywhere
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Which ones I cover multiple
Where can I get the rivets?
@JDSOutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Amazon has them all
LoL ! put a regulator on that hammer gun ( you would make one out of a temp gauge probably ) And that bolt your using isn't heavy enough to buck them thar rivets. Sometimes you just gotta spend the $ to do the job right !
@JDSOutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Sure seems heavy enough it's worked well on hundreds of them
Woodprix has very good designs and plans.
Ribbet Ribbet
I did it too. This is what I used Woodprix designs for
Watched 7 minutes of useless video for 30 seconds of instruction. 😢