How to install a timing chain
Robert Dana teaches step by step instructions how to install a timing chain. The model he is working on is a small block
Chevrolet 400 but must other models are similar.
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He seems like a really good teacher , patient and kind
@albendryscastro8528
3 жыл бұрын
La explicación la queremos en español no se hablar inglés les estoy enviando de Venezuela
Lots of these how to's on changing a timing chain and gears on you tube but very few outlining the whole procedure.Everything seems to start with the oil panand timing case cover already off. The start of the job involves removal of the timing chain cover. On older small block Chevs that involves (at very least) the slight lowering of the oil pan to clear the ends of the lip on the timing cover. Some choose to trim the corners off of that lip so any future timing chain work can be done without slacking off several of the pan bolts so the cover wont tear the end seal while removing/installing the cover. Very few go into that step first.
You video's are spot on Dave, thanks
Great video, to the point and very helpful way to get my head around this repair.
Very clear, accurate and precise explanation. One of the best movies on the subject I've seen. Thank you!
@eabnamoliben1598
Жыл бұрын
Not a movie
Great video, I am about to do this on my SBC 305. Really helps me to see it as well as read it. Keep up the great work!
you are correct at lining the dots on crank and cam but what all the guys on youtube fail to mention is that dot to dot is not a compression stroke or the position to stab the distributor....so if you stab the distributor with dots aligned then it will be 180 out, so the dots on cam sprocket and crank sprocket have to be in the 12o'clock position with both intake and exhaust valves closed for it to be correct....the ratio is 2 crank revolutions to 1 cam revolution....if you stab distributor with dot to dot position then there is a possibility of valves and piston colliding during engine crank attempts you dont want piston coming up and valves opening
@rockerpat1085
6 жыл бұрын
Right!!! If the distributor were stabbed this way it will be 180 out every time. You are correct 12 and 12 on the timing marks and the distributor will be correct!!! Keep Rocking!!!
@rockerpat1085
6 жыл бұрын
But you're incorrect on stabbing the distributor with the marks at 6 and 12. The only thing that will be out of time is the distributor resulting in a no start with a lot of back firing from both the engine and the guy who stabbed his distributor wrong. Nothing will happen to the valves when the gears are aligned 6 and 12. Keep Rocking!!!
@justinriley8651
5 жыл бұрын
very important comment. failure to listen will result in extreme frustration and possible cam damage . also this man forgot blue loctite on the cam gear bolts those things fall off and you are having more frustration and damage.
@stevecollins115
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why guys need dots to figure out their ignition and can't just figure out tdc compression on cylinder 1. It's not rocket appliances.
Cam should not be turned, the crank can be adjusted a little to make sure bottom is matched with top. But the engine should already be on top dead center by timing mark before take down this solves issues of being off 180 degrees for distributer. It is 12 o'clock on the crank versus 6 o' clock on the cam for match up.
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
I just read otherwise. #1 Compression stroke TDC on my engine has the Cam at 12 o'clock and Crank at 12. I'm keeping it that way for the chain replacement.
Good videos, thanks.
Hi thanks but would help to tell me how do it in tahoe 2009 engine are the same step should line up both crank and timing shift
Thank you I’ve learned something new
Thanks Robert, I enjoyed the simplicity
Good video! What's the best user friendly torque wrench?
That was easy !! Thanks
I appreciate your help!...
he likes it tight
Did you have to grind down the freeze plugs on the engine block behind the cam gear to fit the double roller?
What about in a dual overhead cam engine? Do the indicators make a triangle with the crankshaft?
Could use some help with my 2000 Ford Taurus timing chain replacement
ey dave wat brand timming chaing u recommend or doesnt matter i gots a sbc 327?
Would you need to align timing marks if everything stays the same as you removed ie the crank and camshaft are not moved. Everything should remail relative if you install the same as removal. just a thought. thx
Hi does the bottom cam gear need replacing when u do the chain and upper wheel or can u reuse the botton gear ??? Thanks
Hiw do I set the timing marks on my 1998 Chevy Caprice with a 4.3 lt1 motor or can show a video
Mr jones sir i do have a 454 chevy is it the same for it ???
Do suppose to turn the crankshalf TDC before installing the timing chain?
Is it possible to rotate the cam with the heads (and therefore valves and valve springs) still attached? Thanks. Ray (Australia)
shouldn't the crank dot be at 12 cam dot at 6 -then turn it til they are both at 12?
@rob99rst
5 жыл бұрын
your right he has it on # 6 compression and number 1 exhaust stroke
I have some problems with the operating temperature on the highway and loosing power. Could that be from the timing chain?
No lock tight on the bolt so it don't back out seems like such a low torque especially for that spinning and vibrating probably loose.
Is there a cam buttion that has to go on it as well
0:55 same
@Cen805coasT
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
what side is the line up pen suspose to be on wehn putting on timei g chain
At time 1:14 you said put the key on O and go up 3 teeth. My question is ... Where you have the yellow paint , will all gears have a mark there? ( where you have the yellow paint) I see no mark there? The reason I'm asking is a long story. While my damper and stationary mark do line up at TDC , when I start the marks will not come down to time it, engine run good but can't time it with the light. At TDC rotor does line up to #1 wire. I have read many people had this problem but I found no fix.
what side is the line up pen suspose to be on wehn putting on timei g chine
Can you make a video of how to retime the timing chain if the timing marks don’t line up together after a full 360?
Do you put red tread lock on the bolts?
How did you seat the crank gear ? heat, tamping with a socket, why should you not do some things ? Did it fly apart ? Just enough info to destroy an engine.
Nice video, really good demonstration of timing change assembly.
How can u tell if u need to change ur timing chaine on a dodge ram 1500
Pls my ford is 2007/2011 12 valve engine how to set my timing chain
I like this guy
Hello ,I am overhauling a 2.2 Lt for an S10 2002 when it comes to the timing it is easy to aline the marks ,but when i purchased the timing kit sprockets and chain , it came with the small oil cup with a small hole in it same as the engine had before , but the parts seller who is a a very large company and in business for such a long time he said if you use this kit , you do not need a tensioner period . i found it hard to accept , because mine which is a standard unopened motor before came with a tensioner , can you please advise
Great video. One question. Must I remove my oil pan to change the timing chain. I don't remember removal on my 69 pontiac.
@nelsonstrickland8813
6 жыл бұрын
1975 PONTIAC CATALINA 400-THM400 if you don't at least loosen the first 3 on each side at the front of oil pan,you will not get the seal to stay in place when installing..pan does NOT have to be removed tho..
Question i am installing new timing chain...when crankshaft and camshaft gear marks are lined up is that also top dead center on cylinder number one? I think it is ..just want to make sure...thanks
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
He said it was 2 degrees before TDC. Zero being TDC.
wow the difference between this and the Land rover LR3 4.4L jag engine just makes me want to own a small block chevy... wow. Very useful video!
Can you make a video show how to set up gas, water cooler, battery and start engine alone. Please!! How to set up the vavles for i4,i6,v6,v8 engine.
@datraktorman69
4 жыл бұрын
Your asking for like ten different videos,all of which can be found on KZread already
How much slack should a new cam have, also my timing gears don't look striated up and down.
So what holds the cam from sliding back and forth I don't know much about chevys just curious
@brandongosse9289
5 жыл бұрын
Lifters
@abrahamramirez3497
5 жыл бұрын
Lifter with push rods and rocker arms
What are the problems that it causes laxity chain cam sheft ???
I am gonna change my let see what happen thank u dude
Hello my name is joe I wanted to do my timing because my oil pump has gone bad. The reason I’m writing you is because I never done one before. My question is once I take off my timing cover & remove my oil pump how do I set my timing before replace do I get a wrench my turn it to the right or left until kits centered or do I came off the old timing chain first then set it according to the bottom Assembly first
Whats up with that black link switcharoo in the chain?
should there be play on a new chain ? or zero play ?
Wount that be 6 o clock on the top gear?
Does anyone know if a nissan bluebird 1996 uses a Chain belt or a cam belt?
Hello I took off the timing chain cover and saw the 2 dots did not line up I’m new to this my question is can I rest the timing or dose the 2 dot don’t always line up
Hi David - I have a motorhome with a bbc 454 engine. The engine has several oil leaks that I am going to repair which require removing the oil pan and replacing the timing chain (TC) cover seal. Some friends of mine have advised along with replacing the TC seal, to also replace the timing chain, the oil pump and the rear main seal. In searching for parts there are several sizes of chains it appears I need to take the old chain to the parts store and physically match it from there. Is this correct? If I am not mistaken I think I will need to to a timing adjustment with the distributor when I get everything reassembled.
How did you know the position of the camshaft?
@abrahamramirez3497
5 жыл бұрын
When the motor is rotated 180 deg and cam on top of crank the mark on cam go down and crank up that's as far as I know I haven't heard of the opposite just fyi
question, must be set at TDC, right?
@eugenehodge3736
5 жыл бұрын
what bout. 64. Chev. corvair. timinv. chain
SS T Shirt Is 🔥
very nice
What's the steps before these to make sure your piston is tbc
I need to know the timing for a 305 outta a 1978 chevy 10
Can you change from factory to double row without removing the oil pan if engine is staying in car.
@stevecollins115
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, just remove the most forward 2 oil pan bolts, and loosen the 2 behind that. Carefully wedge in 2 flat tops, should be enough slack then to remove your timing cover and reinstall properly!
Is it possible to replace a cam on a Ford 460 without removing any rockers or other parts on the heads? Thanks
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
You typically replace cams with the lifters, so yes, you will need to loosen rockers and remove your pushrods. Depending on your cam type, you may need to shorten/engthen pushrods. Search videos about pushrod geometry.
No time chain tensioner?
Can u just keep the same sprockets and just replace the timing chain ?
I have a 1989 Pontiac Firebird trans am that the timing chain broke, does anyone know how much it’ll cost for a shop to replace it? If it’s over $500 then I’ll have to do it myself. :/
Did all that to mine but still wont start but when it went bad it sounded like metal flying throw the exhaust barely got the truck up the street
On the 1998 350's there is no need to take off the pan
Can you change the timing with the engine still in the vehicle?
@MystiqWisdom
4 жыл бұрын
All signs point to yes. The engine was out just for demo.
Drop the dizzy in an try an start an it will backfire thru carb in dot to dot it be 180 out. Cam dot needs to be at 12 as well as crank with #1 piston at tdc. Drop dizzy in on # 1 an it will fire. Rite up
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks baws!
if your oil pan is already on do you have to loosen it down a bit ?
@justinrowles9316
7 жыл бұрын
murraykat yes
@cliffordwalker5491
6 жыл бұрын
Does 2014dodge have timing belt or chain
thank you
@DavidJonesOpalImages
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kelvinchannel9592
7 жыл бұрын
+David Jones i really appreciate this video cause i was wondering does this small box chevy have a timing belt or chain so now i subscribe to your channel for more leaning
@howtodoityourself6178
7 жыл бұрын
Come to my channel we lots more videos up and coming
@kelvinchannel9592
7 жыл бұрын
+How to do it yourself with Robert Dana cool and thanks
It looked like the dots weren't in a perfect line, does it matter of dots a a tiny bit off?
Chevy is so simple my F150 v6 wich is the same looking chain has a extra sprocket on the the top sprocket witch is for the ob2 distributor gear to be move along and a chain tensioner that i dont even wanna touch cause it looks complicate and cant find a good video on how to replace this complicated chain on a 97 4.2 engine I got the timing cover taking off and need help on how to replace this chain anyone please bee kind and show me a link on where I can be guide to do this job I am in this mess cause my ac compressor clutch came off and hit my pulley fan and broke off the harmonic balancer so I had to take all this appart and now i saw that my timing chain has a broken piece and dont wanna run the truck with this bad chain
Once you have the marks lined together where should the dist pointer be pointing ???
@stevecollins115
4 жыл бұрын
That depends on where the engine was in the cycle when you removed the timing gears. Just line up your timing marks, find TDC on compression on cylinder 1, and reinstall distributor.
I was told its best to spin the crankshaft 2 times around after the chain is on to make sure they line up right have you ever heard of that? Do you know how to check if the chain jumped a tooth on a bbc 454 without taking it all apart? it starts but does not run good after I let some @$$hole use it any info would be great thx
@thisperson6655
7 жыл бұрын
+mitchell b , spin it to make sure the timing isn't off and to check the tension after. Rotate the crankhaft by the bolt two complete belt or chain revolutions and see how the timing looks. You should probably replace the waterpump and crankshaft seal while you have the timing chain done.
Seems really calm...
How to instal 1400 Nissan baki
Do you have to pull valve covers
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
That may help you find TDC, but if you are good you can find it just putting thumb on spark plug hole until it stops blowing air. You might have to rock the crank back an forth just a tiny bit to make sure.
when i rebuilt my 350 i put timming marks like this n found distributor off 180 when aligned to no.1 plug, started when aligned to no.6,....i believe timming marks should be 12 and 12
@stacyyealock6779
4 жыл бұрын
Dot to dot has always been 180deg out.. The reason You have to find compression stroke on #1 when installing distributer. People have laughed at me for yrs. (They were always 180 out) They still say I'm wrong.
@stevecollins115
4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyyealock6779not exactly. Depends on if 6 or 1 was tdc on compression when you removed your timing set. The dots having nothing to do with tdc compression, you're just putting the cam in time with the crank. You still have to find tdc compression on cylinder 1 when reassembling. Hence some people say 12 o'clock, some say 6.
@stacyyealock6779
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevecollins115 When the dots are at 6:00 on cam and 12:00 on crank , #6 is actually firing. Unless you have 7-2 swap cam. That's the reason for getting #1 on the compression stroke before installing distributor or it will be 180deg out. (I see what you mean though, just miss wording) Both are at TDC either way.
@stevecollins115
4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyyealock6779 it's all relative, say your crank and cam is 12. If you have to pull your cam out for whatever reason, you would do it in dot to dot correct? (Unless you're clever and wrote down position). But technically, it is not wrong to line up dot to dot. Your cam and crank are still in time, just your ignition isn't. I hope I'm not coming off snooty, I just like wrenching on cars haha
@stacyyealock6779
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevecollins115 Right, and if doing 4 to 1 ratio, It would be.... ahh we get it and NO you're not coming off snooty.. We see the same , just different set of eyes. I enjoy talking and typing..
2006 pontiac g6 3.5 v6 base same?
@jonny5ive167
4 жыл бұрын
I assume it's a similar process. It is better to consult a repair book.
If I'm doing a DOD delete on my Tahoe 5.3 and changed my timing chain, do I also need to change the sprockets?
@johnhodg8400
5 жыл бұрын
the book says yes.
01:20 the camshaft gear is at 6 ocklock
Hi , I have a Chevy 2007 1500 pick up truck 4.3 litre .
I like it tight too👍
How long does a mechanic need to do this in a shop ?
@cliftoncitizen5522
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1994 Buick Roadmaster replace the timing change now my car rattles when I accelerate price was 940 looking for help to get it fixed now it also took four weeks 🤦
I just put a new timing chain on a 5.7 Vortec - The car won't start - Back fires a little. How do I tell if I am 180 degrees out. I set the marks at 6 O'clock for the cam and the crank at 12 O'clock - Any youtubers have an answer - Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help.
@abrahamramirez3497
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this help but if the engine is positioned in a V the cam mark is suppose to be 6 o'clock and crank 12
R for race mode
My timing chain has no marks on it like the o,a,and r there is nothing and I am lost
@nelsonstrickland8813
6 жыл бұрын
Landon Mcgill it has to have one dot on it if it's stock,otherwise you couldn't put it in time...look at it closely...you'll see it...
@stacyyealock6779
4 жыл бұрын
You have a 3 slot crank gear, can be confusing. The o is for normal timing as a stock dot would be, and if you can't check everything else (confusing to you if I tried to type it all out) Put the o on the keyway of the crank, the A and the R are for A-advancing the time 4deg and the R-retarding the timing 4deg. (Advancing makes the most torque and horsepower early, and retarding makes it later in power range.)
TDC on number1 cylinder is always when the mark on the crank timing gear is at the 12 o' clock position, and when you align the cam gear to the 6 o'clock position to the crank gear at 12 o'clock your valve timing is correct. But if you rotate the motor from that position, and your timing chain is on, you are off of TDC, until the two marks come together again. Most eng. work like that, but always check your manual on different engines!!!! Small block and Big block chevys are like the video.
@takemeback2
7 жыл бұрын
When both crank and cam dots are at 12 oclock, that is firing cyl #1 period. Chevy and mopar v-8's and many others, but not all.
@rcarmichael7582
11 ай бұрын
I’m just trying to get this right before I attempt installing my chain and new distributor . So I make sure my engine is on TDC on compression stroke,,, Put my chain on while “Dot to Dot”. Now rotate dots to 12 and 12. Now set my New Distributor pointing at #1 Cylinder. Is this correct
that's not on compression stroke. that's #6 cylinder compression. dot should be at 12.00 oclock for #1 compression stroke
I’m trying to get the timing gears with that stupid whine out of my 383
Hi Y’all.
3:27 thats what he said
I'm trying to find tdc by myself,
Timing chain is perfect Timing belt is very bad
The fuel pump goes whith timing
is this legend still ok ? its been a while since I've seen him .