How to Improve Line Quality

A caller's question about line quality. Taken from season 1 episode 22 - • Delegation, Staying Or...
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Stan Prokopenko and Marshall Vandruff are art instructors. If you love the arts, particularly the craft of drawing and painting and image-making… and you want to level up your skills or even make a living with your skills, we are here to answer your questions. We’re here to offer you advice, refer you to our resources, share your love of the craft and maybe inspire you! Learn to Draw - www.proko.com Marshall Vandruff. Subscribe to the podcast at bit.ly/DraftsmenPod
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Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (www.marshallart.com/)
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  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven4 жыл бұрын

    Boy, Marshall has just a crazy impressive memory.

  • @MystiqWisdom

    @MystiqWisdom

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, it's like someone who owns a record store and you ask them which classic rock bands and artists you should check out. It's what they know and their major interest, what they do all day.

  • @teriyaki_chicken

    @teriyaki_chicken

    Жыл бұрын

    You can tell he truly loves art

  • @Lizard1582

    @Lizard1582

    10 ай бұрын

    What was crazy about his memory here?

  • @Montragon29
    @Montragon294 жыл бұрын

    We want Draftsmen! And more Marshall singing...

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation21643 жыл бұрын

    If you want to conscientiously improve your line quality, there are certainly ways of doing that, but it does gradually get better on it's own too. The biggest difference you can make as a beginner is learning to interpolate instead of extrapolate. Exterpolating is where you take a spray and pray attitude, draw a bunch of lines, pick the one that's the closest fit, and then awkwardly erase the ones that don't This is the "feathering" which is such a prevalent problem. Interpolation is actually learning to make the line go where you want it to by mentally plotting it out in advance. Beginners usually think about where the line starts, but aren't very specific about where it's supposed to end up, which forces them to use guesswork. So an easy fix is to lightly place a dot where the line i supposed to go before drawing it. The same can be done even with complex contours by simply adding more dots and joining them up. If one dot still doesn't get the line in the right place, draw another one in the middle closer to where the line starts. Making a connect the dots puzzle to produce art sounds ridiculous but it does hit the nail on the head when it comes to the feathering problem. It's like using the pen tool in Photoshop.

  • @user-qr5jr3uo5c

    @user-qr5jr3uo5c

    2 жыл бұрын

    It took me 1.5 years to come up with the same idea (yes, I'm a bit slow)

  • @pauljerome01

    @pauljerome01

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the advice, it makes the peterhan stuff make more sense

  • @tejeraillustrator3810

    @tejeraillustrator3810

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats a great way of explaining it. Thank you!

  • @hommeburgersupreme

    @hommeburgersupreme

    6 ай бұрын

    thank you for this extremely helpful comment! 🙂

  • @Liliphant_

    @Liliphant_

    14 күн бұрын

    I will go from searching lines all over my page to searching dots all over my page

  • @artsyen2103
    @artsyen21033 жыл бұрын

    4:28 Study from Jeff Watts Line Quality 5:35 "There are musicians who imitate and study their favourite musicians" 5:56: Great draftsmen to study from: Jacob De Gheyn II, Guercino, Albrecht Durer, John Tenniel, Beatrix Potter

  • @drawingmaniacsterben7144
    @drawingmaniacsterben71444 жыл бұрын

    rendering in pen and ink by Guptill helped me so much i cant even express it. Its not just about ink... it is really book that will change the way you think

  • @jacobpolansky8096
    @jacobpolansky80964 жыл бұрын

    Oh hey, I found Rendering in Pen and Ink for $2.99 in my antique store, and I’ve been getting ready to go over it.

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus3 жыл бұрын

    I am a disabled artist and using my entire arm for drawing is not a possibility for me. That being said, I do not have a problem drawing straight lines using wrist only. I usually draw very slowly which causes no issues with my line quality, and even improves my straight lines. It makes no discernable difference in my curved lines. It makes no difference between circles, ovals, ellipses, squares or triangles. On extremely long lines, because I am methodical in lifting my pen from the paper, I can reposition paper or my arm, pick up the line where I left off without a detectable stop / start point. As with any other style of drawing, it just takes practice. Advice such as you must use your whole arm if you want to draw a circle is bad advice for anyone who has a disability that involves the shoulder or the neck. There are other methods that work equally well for those who either by necessity or choice keep their wing tucked in and not flapping about as if they are ready to fly.

  • @sketchartist1964
    @sketchartist19643 жыл бұрын

    I agonized for years trying to learn how to get the interesting line quality that I saw in old master drawings. I think the best way to learn it is by copying their drawings as best one can then try to apply what one learns in ones own drawings. I think some of the best books on the topic are those by Robert Beverly Hale.

  • @onimanga5197
    @onimanga51974 жыл бұрын

    Man ive seen all of draftsman twice and i still watch these clips when you post them 💕

  • @neilcanta1302

    @neilcanta1302

    3 жыл бұрын

    We do the same thing haha

  • @okitasan
    @okitasan4 жыл бұрын

    I feel lucky to have studied under both Jeff Watts and Stan. Life-changing experience going to the Atelier

  • @nochipmunks8692
    @nochipmunks8692 Жыл бұрын

    The book Marshall recommended is just amazing,what a great person you are Marshall

  • @Sewius
    @Sewius4 жыл бұрын

    We are the art students, your style will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

  • @blissaethetic

    @blissaethetic

    Жыл бұрын

    now, let us prepare ourselves with an inking pen, paper and some ink

  • @vernonadams1536
    @vernonadams15363 жыл бұрын

    Prefect analogy Marshall, that's exactly what I was thinking then you said it. You put scales into context and create instead of just mindless scales up and down the registry.

  • @vealgangains6314
    @vealgangains63144 жыл бұрын

    I love the pain recommendation I do this myself and I recently have taken up silver and metal point where you also have to be precise with lines

  • @anthonyj719
    @anthonyj7194 жыл бұрын

    can't wait for the next season!!

  • @pjlewisful
    @pjlewisful4 жыл бұрын

    I love you 2 together. It makes learning so fun.

  • @jackiehonda
    @jackiehonda Жыл бұрын

    Marshall: "Just imitate a bunch of their lines [artists you admire] until you feel like you own it, then move on to the next one..." Couldn't agree more. Thank you, guys!

  • @moeykaner1
    @moeykaner14 жыл бұрын

    I'd also recommend the new Book: 'Framed Drawing Techniques: Mastering Ballpoint Pen, Graphite Pencil, and Digital Tools for Visual Storytelling' by Marcos Mateus-Metre

  • @SW12234
    @SW122343 жыл бұрын

    I find this very helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @shadowyes3249
    @shadowyes32494 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah!! Now I can try improving my lines Thx draftsmen

  • @MCUPW
    @MCUPW4 жыл бұрын

    Great show, guys! Heard about it a while ago, now I am a regular here.

  • @BrianMarcWhittaker
    @BrianMarcWhittaker2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I’m going to apply it to my work and share it with my students.

  • @crazyfly5505
    @crazyfly55054 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Guptill's book is on archive.

  • @Straight_to_dust
    @Straight_to_dust2 жыл бұрын

    Best art podcast on the internet!

  • @theunassumnglocalguy5441
    @theunassumnglocalguy54413 жыл бұрын

    I found using a g nib dip pen and ink the most helpful to practice with. It's very unforgiving because it requires your angle and pressure to be consitant to achieve line weight and quality. But once it starts to click, its super satisfying.

  • @imnooneh
    @imnooneh Жыл бұрын

    it would be so cool stan if you and marshall did an episode just drawing, talking about the process. i've never asked for anything 😀

  • @handyboy4178
    @handyboy41784 жыл бұрын

    It has been 2 months already? Time flies.

  • @LetitiaCollins
    @LetitiaCollins4 жыл бұрын

    Where can we get a Proko shirt? Love it!

  • @Draftsmen

    @Draftsmen

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can get one here - kzread.infostore

  • @afuras2534
    @afuras25342 жыл бұрын

    Do you think conscious tracing helps with line quality since your just focusing on the lines rather than having to worry about other stuff like proportion or anatomy?

  • @greennature1045
    @greennature10453 жыл бұрын

    nice :)

  • @thekevinjustice
    @thekevinjustice4 жыл бұрын

    what is name and book referenced at the 1:35 mark? Thanks!

  • @carlocatalano9662
    @carlocatalano96623 жыл бұрын

    Check out Urs Graf too.

  • @karldarwin1253
    @karldarwin12534 жыл бұрын

    agh i tought it is a full new draftsmen

  • @James-ip7zk
    @James-ip7zk4 жыл бұрын

    Does Jeffrey Watts have books about drawing/illustration? Like those examples in the video?

  • @seanramsey

    @seanramsey

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure about a book, but he does have a KZread Channel.

  • @joevenuspermana6002
    @joevenuspermana60023 жыл бұрын

    Who artist have same style sketch as guercino?

  • @yofu2969
    @yofu29694 жыл бұрын

    Thank you fathers-

  • @PuppetMaster8707
    @PuppetMaster87072 жыл бұрын

    I draw with my wrist a lot and I just move the paper around to get a straighter line

  • @zack49
    @zack494 жыл бұрын

    I thought the first hashtag said inequality for a sec. Stan and Marshall talking politics?I was so confused

  • @chyra451
    @chyra4514 жыл бұрын

    Ay

  • @MOOEMAN
    @MOOEMAN4 жыл бұрын

    what helps me with line variation is holding my pencil sideways, then when i want fine lines i hold it upright

  • @Joel-wj2gi
    @Joel-wj2gi3 жыл бұрын

    Marshall sounds like space ghost haha

  • @xcreenplay7264
    @xcreenplay72643 жыл бұрын

    1:08 I still do this 😔😔😔 but I'm learning to break the habit

  • @alonsoesponda1055
    @alonsoesponda10554 жыл бұрын

    Who,s artwork are the drawings of the thumbnail of?

  • @Draftsmen

    @Draftsmen

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jeffrey Watts

  • @benjilacoustra6271

    @benjilacoustra6271

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Draftsmen Oh... It looks like Charles Dana Gibson's art. I thought it was from his work. Thank you both for sharing your knowledge, btw.

  • @joevenuspermana6002
    @joevenuspermana60023 жыл бұрын

    Do you know other artist just like Guerchino?

  • @elcapitan549
    @elcapitan5493 жыл бұрын

    Hobbyist here. The day I become a maven I will have you to thank.

  • @winandnikolatesla2021
    @winandnikolatesla20213 жыл бұрын

    5:55

  • @johnmanole4779
    @johnmanole4779 Жыл бұрын

    One problem with me is that my lines always look dirty...

  • @kucftbueouy9902
    @kucftbueouy9902 Жыл бұрын

    Try writing the N word over and over again. Worked for me.

  • @ovn_tamil

    @ovn_tamil

    Жыл бұрын

    💀