How to ground an open ground outlet | Handyman | Contractor
I work as a maintenance tech at some apartments. What i have learned is that when a tenant who has housing is moving in, the inspector checks to see if all the outlets are working correctly.
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Pretty convenient that grounds were in the box. I have a bunch of boxes with no ground wire at all
@charlesgeorge7414
8 ай бұрын
Lol that’s what I was thinking like the grounds are just not connected. I DONT HAVE GROUND AT ALL 😂
@MyGingercat
25 күн бұрын
If that’s the case, switch outlet to a GFCI for some ground protection (not necessarily for devices) until you get a proper ground.
Please be safe Mr. Handyman.That Fuse Should've went in your pocket because for any reason that loose fuse connection arcs there could be a lot of slow singing & flower bringing.You could've made an entirely mistake free video and still got constructive advice but they help perfect your craft.I haven't seen a fuse box since the 70's Wow
@Epicsburg
Жыл бұрын
I'm not an electrician at all, and that was my first thought.
@jjsifo1
8 ай бұрын
True , better remove it,it could arc.
@patmajors9121
Ай бұрын
Screws are not Philips either
@bonniedroney4617
21 күн бұрын
I didn't see him put the fuse in his pocket
If your outlet doesn’t have a ground wire then replace the upstream receptical to a GFCI outlet one with also AFCI it will protect the downstream outlets!
The ground wire your attaching is supposed to be the color green or bare copper or marked with green tape
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
Yea he could have just stripped the entire piece. It wouldn’t have taken much longer.
Yes, you should of used a green wire, as to black or wrap green tape around that black wire! and the consumer unit should be upgraded (rental or for-sale) with RCD's and MCB's! I wrote this before reading any of the comments! Also the fuse should of been 100% removed in case some one puts it back in. Also most MCB have wire hole (front part) to insert a safety system to prevent it being switched back on - your/our safety!
This video should be call "How simple mistakes from an unqualified handyman can get himself killed." Just a couple of notes: fuses should be removed completely. When it comes to electrical work, if you don't have the right wire for a job, you stop and get the right one.
They are flat head not phillips
Great video. Helped a lot. I have the same problem in this video where the ground wasn't connected and now I know what to do.
Usually the fix is not that easy in old structures!! .Some cables do not have even have a ground conductor !! You could run a grounding conductor back to the panel then run a conductor to water meter if it wasn't run but you would need a 8 Gauge to water meter if it was not interrupted with plastic pipe !Then you would have to run ground to the outside or the basement connect it to a ground rod ! You go back to solve code by wrapping green electrical tape if it is stranded wire you would need some types of crimp connector designed to around a terminal screw !
Simple straight forward instructions!
Good troubleshooting, just next time just grab some 12/2 romex and pull out a ground wire and pigtail it instead of using a 14 gauge stranded.
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
He didn’t use stranded. Am I crazy? Where did he use stranded wire.?
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
You were right he used stranded. It looked solid to me fir some reason. My bad. That’s so weird. My eyes must be real bad.
I subscribed! You have good information on you channel and lots of knowledge to share! Thank you for making this videos, Ron! You've already helped me and I'm excited to go to the hardware store to get what I need to ground my outlets! Thanks! Merry Christmas and God bless to you and yours!
@DopeBoysofAtlanta
Жыл бұрын
This is not good information
@taffykins2745
Жыл бұрын
@@DopeBoysofAtlanta Gee Ron, I'm surprised you'd say that about your own channel. Having a bad day? Greater later my friend.
I would be more concerned with the fuse box…. Geez
@frodejotnar9899
2 ай бұрын
That’s a very expensive changeout
why were the ground wires not connected to the ground terminal on the three prong receptacle?
Great video. Can you ground a wire to a metal box ?
really half A$$ed. You should find a piece of solid any color and strip it completely if you do not have green.
You can't used a high resistance wire as ground.
brand new pliers klein or milwiakee arte the best
If you are a home owner, consider "lever nuts" or wago's.. they are easily reusable and a safe wire connector. More expensive per nut but if you only need 3 or 4. Also, ground needs to be identified as green or bare.
@news_internationale2035
2 жыл бұрын
Wire nuts are safer. Direct copper to copper contact is safer. Not using an intermediary like a Wago does.
@roncomesinhandy4891
2 жыл бұрын
yeah I'm going to make a follow up video explaining my mistake in this video
@TomCee53
2 жыл бұрын
@@news_internationale2035 This is one of those debatable points. Properly used, any “listed” connector is safe. I mostly use wire nuts because I already have them.
@keithharrington8715
2 жыл бұрын
@@news_internationale2035 I, too, am an electrical guy and would use wire nuts. Wagos allow for less wire "shrinkage" based on poor connection attempts. Also, the wire is not damaged removing it from a "stab in" connector. One other point, once the hot is landed, it is hard to get a shock (I am not promoting hot work, all work should be done de-energized, I realize accidents happen and I feel this is the best survivalibility path). So, unless you do it each day, I think they are safer, but, my opinion and mine only.
@DJ-WHAT-DA-KUT
2 жыл бұрын
I Converted To WAGO Lever Nut Brand Only.Extremely Reliable,Good For Stranded Wire & Takes Up Less Room In Electrical Box.
Thanks for sharing. A question: the ground wire that you found in the outlet box is connected somewhere?
Usually you won't find a ground wire in the box with the open ground condition. If there is no ground wire present, simply attaching the recep to the box does nothing.
@CHIK3NTENDERYT
Ай бұрын
So wha would be the right way
@effthegop
Ай бұрын
@@CHIK3NTENDERYT I lieu of an existing ground wire, a GFCI receptacle or circuit breaker can be use to protect the receptacle or the entire circuit. It measures incoming and outgoing current and if the don't match, it opens the circuit.
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
@@CHIK3NTENDERYT running a designated ground wire from the ground bus bar in the panel box. Also can use the neutral bar as long as it’s not a sub panel. You would attach a ground wire to the bus bar for each circuit you’re grounding and then run that to the outlets and switches you’re grounding.
We have a 70 year old cabin in Montana. Aluminum wiring and no ground. Tried to charge my Tesla but the car senses no ground and gives me an error. But the toaster, microwave and oven won’t warn you.
@roncomesinhandy4891
2 ай бұрын
Another way to ground an outlet is switch it out with a GFCI.
@TrendyStone
2 ай бұрын
@@roncomesinhandy4891 Yes, that’s what we’ve been doing over time. Won’t help us charge the Tesla but certainly adds safety.
Can re-Id the wire with some green electrical tape. Do the entire wire so it is plainly obvious the wire was used as a ground.
whats your next alternative if you dont have a ground wire?
@roncomesinhandy4891
2 жыл бұрын
another alternative is to put a GFCI. Those have there own ground wiring built inside.
@hammerridecycling7630
2 жыл бұрын
@@roncomesinhandy4891 oh,nice thanks.subs!🤗
@sirrebral
2 жыл бұрын
@@roncomesinhandy4891 A GFCI is the alternative, but not because it has internal ground wiring; the outlet is still ungrounded. The device just monitors the flow of electricity, and shuts it off when an abnormality is detected.
@roncomesinhandy4891
2 жыл бұрын
@@sirrebral oh ok, thanks for clarifying
I have the same problem, but this time the ground was not being used on a 2 pronged. So I switched it out with a 3 pronged. I connected the loose ground to the green screw on the 3 pronged outlet, but tester still shows open ground. Tell me what I did wrong.
@everythinghomerepair1747
Жыл бұрын
I bet your entire house is ungrounded and that particular outlet was an add on. They should have cut the ground wire flush with the cable so nobody is tempted to use because as you have seen it’s not connected on the other end. I would put the two prong outlet back in.
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
@@everythinghomerepair1747 why do some people suggest leaving two pronged receptacles? It’s still ungrounded either way. Which ever one you use. Except now without the upgrade you can’t use more modern appliances with three prongs.. There is still the risk of electrical shock from anything no matter what. Might as well upgrade but just need to get little stickers that say” no ground”.
@everythinghomerepair1747
16 күн бұрын
@@james_daniels the reason they say that is that it actually isn’t any more dangerous using a two prong appliance in a two prong outlet than a normal outlet. A two prong outlet isn’t actually dangerous until you start using three pronged appliances in it by using an adapter or if someone changed the outlet for a three prong without actually connecting the ground. The way I see things going is that fewer and fewer appliances and devices need a ground anymore (look at any modern TV) so if it were my house I’d leave mostly two prong outlets and just change a few to a GFCI where I wanted to use a computer or something. If anything doesn’t make sense let me know and I’ll clarify it.
What causes half my outlets to show open hot?
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
That probably just means that either they’re the last one in a chain of receptacles or just a single one by itself. Since the last one in a series of outlets or a stand alone one will only have one set of wires going to it. The black on gold line screw and the white on silver neutral screw . Then that means the other two terminals for hot and neutral are open. Which means that other brass screw is now live and hot. That’s why you want to always make sure that unused screw isn’t sticking out and that it’s screwed all the way in. If that’s not what the issue was that you’re having then I have no idea what else. I bought one of those gfci receptacle testers myself and it tells me every single outlet in my home is perfect when I know that’s not possible. Most aren’t even grounded but it’s telling me they’re all grounded. 🤷♂
That's not a Philips on the outlet cover, in 12•2 romax the ground is bare, neutral is white (also hooked to the Gound lug in the panel) & black is hot.
uh what if my grounds are all ocnnected and still showing unground lol
@roncomesinhandy4891
Жыл бұрын
usually that the starter outlets isnt properly grounded or theres a break in the wires somewhere. double check all your wiring and trace it back
You should be using SOLID CORE WIRE mr handyman!!! NOT STRAND. Plus you used black,...there is a color code for a reason my friend. Not to discourage your efforts but you shouldn't broadcast mistakes like this.
@mosantiago8453
6 ай бұрын
You can use any wire as long as you label it.
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
Idk why I thought it was solid at first until i rewatched and read the label. You can splice stranded and solid though. I don’t particularly like doing it myself but it can be done safely. My bigger concern is his connection with the crimp. I hope he doesn’t ever try to splice and connect any hot wires that way. Definitely a fire hazard then. He should be using a wire nut or connector. The wire ends are not supposed to,be exposed.
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Never use a colored wire as a ground must be bare or have a green sleeve also the crimps are terrible is a 3 port wago
You should have just strip the insulation from the black wire and you the bare copper. How come you didn't use a GCFI
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
That’s what I said but why change the receptacles? He wasn’t asked to replace them. Not his house. I guess he could suggest it.
I don't think connecting the ground wire to the outlet box actually grounds it. It's an ineffective hack. Certified electricians, please correct me.
Why isn't there any sound?
@RonDeazyGaming
Жыл бұрын
Where? Throughout the whole video?
Why are you using stranded wire to solid wire?
@roncomesinhandy4891
2 жыл бұрын
thats the only thing I can find at the moment
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
Where is he using stranded wire? I’m so lost. It looks solid to me.
Ron, this is so helpful! I thought my outlets were grounded because they had the 3 plug in holes. That is until I ruined brand new microwave! I was so mad! Now I have a space heater that was expensive to me. I'm afraid to plug it in just yet. I'm going to get one of those outlet testers you showed and fix it if I need to! Ron, you are a lifesaver! Thank you so much for helping me with this! 👍😊. Merry Christmas to you and your family, stay safe and well! 😊
@roncomesinhandy4891
Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays. Be sure to watch my other recent videos where i correct this video. I made a mistake on the wire i used. it needs to be a bare copper wire or a green wire.
@okaro6595
Жыл бұрын
Grounding is a safety feature. Lack of it does not ruin equipment.
@taffykins2745
Жыл бұрын
@@okaro6595 well actually my microwave exploded because the outlet wasn't grounded. Equipment ruined. If it wasn't that. What caused it?
@xpeacemaster
Жыл бұрын
@@okaro6595 you have no idea huh lol
@james_daniels
16 күн бұрын
That shouldn’t have ruined your microwave. Unless it’s some weird one that requires a ground to work properly.. Otherwise I can’t see why not having a ground would “ruin” your microwave. Yea sure you definitely should have a ground. It’s there to provide safety from electrical shock. So it’s good you did that. It’s just weird to hear that being the reason it ruined your microwave. Maybe you had too many devices plugged in at once or on the same circuit as the microwave. Microwaves, refrigerators, ovens, and dishwashers typically are supposed to be on their own circuit and their own receptacle(outlet).
Dude that’s a flat head screwdriver
jesus that apt is mid 70s
Use an electrician anytime you face an electrical issue.
Humble Suggestion: All I really cared to see is the actual part about grounding the outlet. The other 8 minutes... bro.
Too much echo to hear
Ha ha…your screws are not “Philips”
@roncomesinhandy4891
Ай бұрын
I know lol
Phillips?? Good thing you're not a handy surgeon.
I wouldn’t allow that place to be rented until the wiring was upgraded and the box was upgraded adding AFCI/GFCI breakers. What a hot mess.
Only electrician should be doing this saying anyone can do what we take years to learn is just insulting to the trade and ps green wire is ground not black
@baseball741
3 ай бұрын
It took you years to learn how to properly ground an outlet?
@cwalker7070
3 ай бұрын
No most definitely not but knowing how to actually do it is important
Bro, what is dude doing? 🤦♂ first off, make sure the fuse is completely taken out please. For goodness sakes you don’t want to get electrocuted or cause arcing. Also I’ve never seen wires “crimped” together to make a splice. You’re supposed to use a wire nut or a wago connector. Definitely don’t ever do this with hot and or neutral wires. Am I wrong here or is this somehow common practice to use a barrel crimp to make connections? I’ve never really seen or heard of this being done. Crimping is usually done on stranded wire only anyway. Am I wrong about that? Anyone? I’ve never seen that done where I’ve been and worked before. Just get a wire nut, line all the wires up, and twist it on. You can always read the directions too if they have them. Typically what I do , and what many electricians do is twist the set of wires together that you’re connecting, snip off the ends , and then put a wire nut on. Most of the time though putting a wire nut real tight and doing a pull test will be good enough if you’re not into twisting the wires or not good at it. Again, there is also the wago connectors. Even easier but I’m not always sure about their reliability. I’ve heard some good and some bad but I’m sure they work fine. Especially for stranded wire. Anyway, I think those options are still way better and safer than this. Maybe I’m wrong. I don’t think so though. Lastly before I go too, just strip off the entire wire to bare when using another color besides green for ground wire, so that it is correct for ground and so that in the future it doesn’t end up confusing anyone. Someone might go in there to change a bad receptacle and say ,”what the heck is going on here? Why is there a black wire on the ground screw?” Lol.
@roncomesinhandy4891
12 күн бұрын
thanks for the feedback
Let your tenant get shocked to death and watch how fast you get sued.... I KNOW you're trying to do the quick thing but shouldn't be fixing an outlet just to pass a "light test", Perhaps go back and redo ALL of the outlets in the house no matter how big a project. Replace that fuse box for sure even if you have to charge more for rent.
@roncomesinhandy4891
6 ай бұрын
I'M not trying to do the quick route, this was instructed by the management. I told them what you told me but THEY wanted the easiest and cheapest. That's why I left the company
@callingallkings163
6 ай бұрын
@@roncomesinhandy4891 Good for you then, That's what I would agree are slum lords. You clearly have a passion for it though... Have you went to get some formal training in electrical?
At least you stated you're not an electrician, but the question is WHY then, would you post a video on the topic? You should be watching videos not making them... remember, you only learn and better yourself when you aren't speaking!
Never heard a flat tip called a Phillips before...
@roncomesinhandy4891
11 ай бұрын
Yea my mistake