How to Grieve What Should Have Never Happened

On this episode, we talk to:
- A single mom unsure if she should force her kids to have a relationship with their dad. A woman struggling to grieve the deaths of her mom and sister, who she lost just six days apart. A woman still triggered by the trauma of her past mental health issues
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  • @jasmync6735
    @jasmync67355 ай бұрын

    Bless him for being so patient with the last caller. I was getting so frustrated listening to her explain her situation while not actually explaining anything. I learn so much from him even if I can't relate to the callers actual circumstances.

  • @johnsmith-kt7ef
    @johnsmith-kt7ef Жыл бұрын

    The woman from Seattle sounds like a truly amazing mother and person. The fact that she initiated the divorce, but feels guilty about it, not bc she isn't happy to be out of a one sided marriage, but the affects it may have taken on the kids shows her true character and selflessness. I truly hope nothing but the best for that woman and her family.

  • @ga6589
    @ga6589 Жыл бұрын

    John gave very sound advice about grief. All you can do is put one foot in front of the other and wait for the overwhelming sadness of it to ease. Losing your parents, especially if you've been close, is like losing your anchor in this life. Even having my own family, I felt like I was somehow all alone in the world.

  • @aprilchow-chee5281

    @aprilchow-chee5281

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you aren't the family you create is even more important than the family you came from

  • @susanl4198

    @susanl4198

    4 ай бұрын

    I lost both of my parents within two months of each other and had the very same experience of overwhelming sadness.

  • @aliceford799
    @aliceford7993 ай бұрын

    I learned this as the little sister of 3 elder brothers. If I wanted to talk to them, I waited until they were focused on something and then I would get near them. Remarkably, they would talk to me if they didn’t have to sit facing me. I carried that into my adult relationships. Not when they were watching a game, of course. I had to be selective. 😇

  • @beccadotelpy
    @beccadotelpy Жыл бұрын

    Delony pointing out the added pain of having Covid politicized was such a great moment. It's so true. I've lost friends and clients at work and to hear some say all the dismissive things is just cruel and unhelpful. Think what you want but there are people who are hurting. Be kind to them.

  • @fernleafmedia
    @fernleafmedia Жыл бұрын

    I'm listening from Awhitu Peninsula area in New Zealand and we have a men's shed here in our little town of Waiuku.

  • @road_king_dude
    @road_king_dude Жыл бұрын

    I cried like a baby on this one.

  • @mimimonster
    @mimimonster Жыл бұрын

    I’m in a super similar situation as this caller with the distant ex-husband. Sounds like she doing a great job in a difficult situation!

  • @GwenMotoGirl
    @GwenMotoGirl Жыл бұрын

    Men need these opportunities to get together like the man shed program, and the women in their lives need to not give them a hard time about doing this.

  • @jcstuart6978
    @jcstuart6978 Жыл бұрын

    God Bless you Dr John for spending a little extra time on that 2nd call.

  • @annaandrianis7310
    @annaandrianis7310 Жыл бұрын

    My husband just lost his mother a few days ago to covid . She lived with us for 15 years she was like a mother to me. We depended on her for our emotional needs. She was our rock . We are lost without her . We carry a lot of guilt for not looking for medical help sooner . We also got sick with covid ourselves and we were still recovering when she passed. It hurts sooooo much and it hurts even more to see him carrying so much guilt .

  • @silvermaple3580
    @silvermaple35808 күн бұрын

    He was an emotionally unavailable husband. And he’s holding true to who he is, as an emotionally unavailable father. When someone shows their true colors, believe them. There will be no changing this man. Trust that your children are resilient, and they will eventually vote with their feet..

  • @cathyosullivan718
    @cathyosullivan718 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand how individuals can go to psychiatric hospitals and end up traumatized. Hospitals need to be places of healing!

  • @JessicaClapper

    @JessicaClapper

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with this! I've heard some scary stories out of these hospitals and it's saddening.

  • @JustDiane71

    @JustDiane71

    4 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't send my enemy to a Psych Hospital. I had a loved one in a very highly thought of hospital, that actually is also a leader in Psych research; never again would I tell anyone to go! Over the years weve had three short stays. The things people see and experience, the things people learn that can be used negatively, its terrifying if a Psych Hospital is your only hope! Dr John needs to be cloned because he's not the norm in the mental health services world at least in my area. The mental health system is a mess.

  • @harrietbaker4484
    @harrietbaker44844 ай бұрын

    I have been dealing the the exact same thing. The pain of chosing a divorce because I was dying in my marriage and my kids had a hard time with their dad. So hard! Thanks!

  • @carlossanchez-vg3wi
    @carlossanchez-vg3wi Жыл бұрын

    I am so so glad I found this podcast, De. Delony is amazing, this helps me more than my own therapy as a matter of fact and don't get it twisted I love my therapist but this podcast is like the secret I can't keep to my self, I believe people that will never give therapy a chance can truly benefit a lot from the show, cheers 🥂

  • @lolaspeakman859
    @lolaspeakman859 Жыл бұрын

    Man I needed this.

  • @ValerieSunshine
    @ValerieSunshine Жыл бұрын

    So glad you are taking guitar, John! Did the same actually -- got back into voice lessons ( breathing techniques) because you know what? It's never too late to discover new "pieces" of ourselves...

  • @shehnazahmad5213
    @shehnazahmad521310 ай бұрын

    I see Dr u moving fast on social media well done

  • @BelieveAndLive668
    @BelieveAndLive668Ай бұрын

    I grew up with parents that i knew should've divorced, sometimes it's better that way dispite everything we hear and think

  • @oregoncoastmama3004
    @oregoncoastmama3004 Жыл бұрын

    I've lost 2 siblings. One ten years ago and one my best friend my big sister a little over a year ago. The sleepless nights dont end. My heart will always be broken. You just learn to live with holes in your heart. YOU WILL definitely grieve forever.😭😭I absolutely dread losing my husband, kids or parents. I am terrified of it. I'm not sure my heart would make it.

  • @reneeantwi-boasiako3974

    @reneeantwi-boasiako3974

    Ай бұрын

    I'm so sorry 🙏🏿 ❤️

  • @exileduniverse

    @exileduniverse

    Ай бұрын

    new bordeaux

  • @Jaisee14
    @Jaisee14 Жыл бұрын

    Good morning from snowy Colorado

  • @jamiestanley9234

    @jamiestanley9234

    Жыл бұрын

    Good morning from a very coooold Oklahoma 🥶

  • @johnsmith-kt7ef

    @johnsmith-kt7ef

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamiestanley9234 it was pretty chilly on gulf coast of Florida today :).

  • @thermalreboot
    @thermalreboot Жыл бұрын

    There's a lot of controversy about Men's Sheds in Australia. The initial Men's Sheds was a space where men could spend time and be men. Then women wanted in and many men feel like they've lost their space because they can no longer discuss topics they feel they need to address because those topics may offend women.

  • @sawyersprott

    @sawyersprott

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s also just different being with other men than with men and women. I don’t know how to describe it, but it’s not just not being able to say certain things. It’s rough that we can’t have spaces for ourselves unfortunately.

  • @georgieeve2026

    @georgieeve2026

    Жыл бұрын

    What state are you guys in? I'm in W.A and have never heard of there being women involved in the Mens Sheds aside from helping with deliveries and food. They have recently launched Womens Sheds now too. It's a greatly needed resource for many people. And there's a lot of women who have no interest in the typical womens craft/sewing groups that are available. *edited my comment to correct a spelling error.

  • @emmanelson2406

    @emmanelson2406

    Жыл бұрын

    Women need to start a woman shed club and leave the guys alone

  • @thermalreboot

    @thermalreboot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sawyersprott John addresses some of this in this video, men relate better shoulder to shoulder than face to face. This has been well documented. The supposition is that while hunting or in war where you can sit for hours watching and waiting while nothing is happening men will talk and many of these talks will contain vulnerable subject matter. Women on the other hand relate better face to face, they want to see facial expressions, the supposition here is that women have to learn how to interpret what babies need, since babies can't talk women need to interpret facial expressions. Two very different forms and neither men nor women are comfortable with the other. Women also don't understand when men take the piss out of each other. Sometimes it's a sign of affection, others a sign of aggression. Men learn to interpret the difference.

  • @TheEquiss
    @TheEquiss Жыл бұрын

    I do this with a painting class. It’s free and we meet up at my house. It’s not open to the public though because of the location but friends can invite their friends.

  • @brandyk
    @brandyk3 ай бұрын

    I really liked his advice to Cassie about having someone make the appointment with her/ for her n go to the appointments with he at least initially. Hopefully she has someone. There not all wonderful these doctors lets be honest. Yes her earlier experience on the psych ward no doubt didn't help but ... Also sometimes people dont go bc they fear hearing bad news. Of course logically this will only increase the chance of bad news when you eventually do go whether months later or years later but its like anu kind of procrastination, there is at least momentary comfort. For me i have found part of my reason for not going to doctors for years was i never felt i was in a good enough place emotionally,finianciao, support wise that i woukd have been able to handle more bad news and jt would lead to suicidal ideation and possibly acting on it again.

  • @aprilporter770
    @aprilporter7705 ай бұрын

    You can’t force a healthy relationship with your kids and their dad. It sucks. Getting out of a relationship and seeing the kids still in it hurts but you cannot make him be a good dad. It’s impossible

  • @eetoved1758
    @eetoved1758 Жыл бұрын

    Wow Delony is not wearing a black shirt today!!! Whaaa?

  • @nikstar1313
    @nikstar13133 ай бұрын

    I need this call

  • @larissagonzales6075
    @larissagonzales6075 Жыл бұрын

    This episode is gold. The part where she said she was going to put a sticky note to remind her son not to be his Dad is so damaging. Because yes we are half of our parents and we should never feel shame or guilt about this abandonment in this way. My Mom was/is selfish and has made many bad choices. My Dad trashed her as well as everyone else but no one supported her through her issues and that is terrible and bullying. This made it harder for me and closed off in relationships.

  • @karenherbert1410

    @karenherbert1410

    Жыл бұрын

    She didn't say that she was going to put a sticky note up-- she said her son said he wanted to put one up to remind himself.

  • @lindamoon4255

    @lindamoon4255

    Жыл бұрын

    She didn't put the post it's up. Her son did. She was concerned about it.

  • @aniastelm
    @aniastelm Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @misstbikini
    @misstbikini2 ай бұрын

    I lost my husband suddenly in February, grief is so very hard

  • @reneeantwi-boasiako3974

    @reneeantwi-boasiako3974

    Ай бұрын

    I'm so sorry 🙏🏿 ❤️

  • @exileduniverse

    @exileduniverse

    Ай бұрын

    meatball sub

  • @exileduniverse

    @exileduniverse

    Ай бұрын

    ham sandwich

  • @dubiouslyemo
    @dubiouslyemo Жыл бұрын

    Bringing back Emo!

  • @trxtone7187
    @trxtone718710 ай бұрын

    Pass me the miter saw 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @rosamoreno4794
    @rosamoreno4794 Жыл бұрын

    The girl with the food problem was driving me crazy!

  • @Gjheexhigddc44

    @Gjheexhigddc44

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing she is belimic because that is the more shameful one of the two.

  • @rosamoreno4794

    @rosamoreno4794

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gjheexhigddc44 and communication skills are lacking. She has issues and needs therapy. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @show_me_your_kitties

    @show_me_your_kitties

    6 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @Haleh1
    @Haleh13 ай бұрын

    Being scared of doctors is legit.

  • @marcuslucas6260
    @marcuslucas6260 Жыл бұрын

    p̷r̷o̷m̷o̷s̷m̷

  • @bettybutterbean5759
    @bettybutterbean57593 ай бұрын

    Men sheds have been huge in the UK for years. Why is this news to you?!?!?! 🤣

  • @jacosisaba
    @jacosisaba Жыл бұрын

    Call like these break my heart and make me so mad that we have morons out there saying Covid isn’t real or it’s not that bad just because they haven’t seen it. But there are people loosing family members like this, I can’t imagine how they feel hearing all the nut jobs and their Covid conspiracies.

  • @bishdizzle67
    @bishdizzle67 Жыл бұрын

    Always one sided coming from the woman. And it may be true but more often than not, women project onto their ex husbands based on their own regrets.