(edit) Wow, lots of comments! Just wanted to address some sentiments I've seen here. "I personally did not mind the RNG grind and it kept me playing to see what I'd get next" 1) Totally fair, but we have to remember about survivorship bias - anyone who is actively watching DRG content on KZread is already a much more dedicated player compared to the general DRG population. We have to consider all the players who found the system overwhelming and dropped the game, and would likely have never even seen this video. 2) The overclock grind has increased by ~50% since the introduction of new weapons in S1&2. An early player who wanted a specific overclock had better odds and a shorter grind to get it, even with bad luck. 3) While the mystery of RNG rewards is enticing, we should also recognize that it is a system designed to exploit human psychology and may cause addictive behavior - slot machines take this concept to the extreme (of course, DRG is far more benign and I wouldn't directly compare the two). If you're interested in learning more, I'd suggest looking into behavioral psych topics such as the Skinner box and intermittent reinforcement. "If you can just pick and choose all the good overclocks, you'd burnout from the game quickly" - sure, I guess if you're the type of player who is only motivated by external "carrot dangling on a stick" rewards. But also, what about all the players who burned out from the game because week after week, they never got the overclocks they wanted? With the hindsight of having gone through the OC grind on two platforms, obtaining overclocks isn't really the end goal with this game. They're merely tools that help us along the journey towards personal mastery of the game and all its mechanics. "Just save edit lol" - 1) not doable for our console friends, and 2) according to the devs themselves, save editing can cause bugs with other systems in the game: "If you have used this save game editor (or similar stuff online save editors) please do not bother reporting any bugs you encounter in the game to us! What you do with your save is your choice, but we can't (and honestly don't want to) fix it if what you did messed it up." - u/gsg_amanda www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/ysjf5n/i_made_an_online_save_editor/ (end edit) (original comment) www.twitch.tv/chanceiiors - come ask if you have any questions about best overclocks or want to see them in action, or if you have questions about the technique! ^ also doing a Supporter II DLC giveaway over on there :)

@Pjgamerglasses

Жыл бұрын

Can this be done on Xbox?

@therueben

Жыл бұрын

Can it be done on Microsoft store?

@Duck-Poacher

Жыл бұрын

@@therueben bra, microsoft purged their xbox file explorer and any file exploring and manipulating software on the xbox store. that’s why it’s impossible to mod any game on the xbox

@theoddsareagainstme2365

Жыл бұрын

You forget to rock and stone when grinding you fool

@breadboix2158

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the haz 5 achievement m8, appreciate it

Agree 100% with everything even though I personally didn't mind getting them randomly. Seeing the average playtime should have told the devs everything they need to know about increasing access to good overclocks. Sad that most people won't ever play the game at its best.

@timothyfloyd3269

Жыл бұрын

yeah i understand most of his points but i also understand making them random allows for more playtime. right now besides overclocks there's not really any rewards for grinding missions. and i can bet 90 percent of players if they got all the overclocks within a week they wouldn't play after that week. also you kind of do have some choice for overclock rewards. you get a choice of class for blanks which if you only chooses that class it makes it way easier as the system isn't complete rng as you will never get doubles. i do think the amount of overclock we get from deep dives should be increased but its fine the way it is. as i enjoyed working towards unlocking all the beers even if it took awhile. i almost never buy them for fun after they were unlocked its the same for overclocks when i have them all the game will most likely get boring.

@lonejohnwolf

11 ай бұрын

The mentality that overclocks are just straight up bad is a horrible mentality, so discouraging to see...

@lonejohnwolf

10 ай бұрын

@@SimonWoodburyForget Yes I absolutely love that perspective! I don't want a game where the huge achievements just go to mush that any filthy casual or normie can just do without much effort, I want it to take time and hard work.

@Storse

8 ай бұрын

​@@lonejohnwolfit isn't hard work to get overclocks, it's a time gate. There is no difficulty in deep rock galactic that all. It's an arbitrary time gate that you cannot reasonably grind past if you want to, there is no choice but to wait several months for rng to bless you after doing easy activities weekly over and over again

@lonejohnwolf

8 ай бұрын

@@Storse I hate that perspective. So pessimistic. You're acting like you need some specific overclock or the game won't be fun or something idiotic like that. Or maybe you just have some twisted idea that events are super rare or something, which is completely untrue. And the only "time gate" part is that you're not allowed to just get every overclock in an unreasonably fast amount of time, and are supposed to have plenty of time to play with the overclocks you DO have, and at the same time gives you a break so you're not overworking yourself, which is also plenty of time to play other games if you're only interested in playing for the cores. I got around HALF of the overclocks in the game BEFORE they added getting cores from promotions, and I never had a single complaint about it. I had enough choice to get every driller overclock first pretty easily as well. As a driller main it was just too easy to have fun and focus on collecting every overclock over time just for the heck of it. Now that I have them all, and only have cosmetics to get, the game feels more empty to play other than when I'm just feeling like playing specifically only for fun.

i played deep rock for near 780 hours and yes i can agree that the OC grind is the biggest reson why most people leave the game or make people say "its repetitive" because of it. at least i am kinda happy that they made the oc grind a bit faster but not better i hope the ghost ship works on the oc grind a bit more. but gotta love 'em they are the best dev group i've ever seen.

@aarepelaa1142

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they should do a 1 deep dive like mission that's repeatable and rotates with the mission timer, and has an option for haz 5,5 , like regular missions but just with the deep dive style two primary missions at once, then it could give one completely random core, maybe 40% for cosmetic and 60% for weapons, and maybe a blank core every three missions,(nifty idea, maybe they could even have you set up one of those machines that then become the machine events.) that would help a lot and wouldn't negate deep dives as they're seeded runs every week for the (probably not a single soul) who try to get better times on them.

@GameFuMaster

Жыл бұрын

mechanics like these is what kills the interest for new players. "Hey that OC looks cool, how do I get it" "Pray"

@matthewboyd8689

Жыл бұрын

How about every 3 promotions you get to choose one for that class. Not to overpowered because infrequent, but can get the one of a handful you want. Or maybe be able to choose from 3 overclocks to give you a better chance to get what you want but still have to play a long time to get them all

@GameFuMaster

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewboyd8689 That's still hours upon hours of NOT having fun just so you can "unlock" fun.

@matthewboyd8689

Жыл бұрын

@@GameFuMaster better hours of gameplay rather than months of waiting

The overclock grind didn’t feel bad to me when I was new. It honestly felt like it gave me more reason to play the game. And now I’m cracked on trying different build combinations

@craftboy338

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not perfect but I never really felt frustrated with it

@jordanuecker7744

Жыл бұрын

@@craftboy338 I remember starting off I got lucky with a few overclocks that were considered top tier. But fat boy for engineer evaded me for quite some time. And it made it so much more satisfying when I finally got it. I stand by my opinion it’s the most overturned OC in the game atm

@ianjohnson3770

Жыл бұрын

It’s bad dude… I have over 400 hours and still haven’t gotten all of the weapon overclocks

@jordanuecker7744

Жыл бұрын

@@ianjohnson3770 that happened likely because of the inability to look for the events. Maybe it’s because I main scout and actually look for things? Maybe it raises the chance of having events for Haz 5 but I’m unsure. Also doing the deep dives every week aids in acquisition because it guarantees 2 per week without having to complete events.

@suxkdaniles1677

Жыл бұрын

i think the issue is how hype people get for overclocks and if unlucky they get hurt, the higher you are the farther you fall

While I already have all the weapon overclocks, I’m now happy that I can make my friends lives even easier on their overclock grind which is the one annoying thing about this game Thank you

@Brass319

Жыл бұрын

I don't have all of them, but I got most of the ones I wanted in my 274 hours. This is making me want to pick the game back up again and get the remaining couple (rewire mod, explosive reload, etc.)

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

For me the one annoying thing about this game is that 90% of the active perks have literal GARBAGE keybinds... that's a way more pressing issue as it would take mere seconds to fix if they even tried.

@Brass319

Жыл бұрын

@@lonejohnwolf what?? berzerker is power attack while it's on cooldown, medic is left click while reviving, heightened senses iron will and syih are all while you're unable to act and not very out of the way anyways, shield link and beastmaster use the interact button, and dash is just pressing the sprint key twice. Since when did hoverboots count as 90% of the active perks??

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@Brass319 Are you kidding me!?? Bruh berzerker is THE WORST EVER. I don't know about you, but I literally ALWAYS forget that my pickaxe power swing is on cooldown and waste berzerker 9 out of 10 times. Medic is fine, heightened senses is KINDA fine, iron will is fine other than being a useless perk for anyone skilled enough to not die. Shield link is BRAINDEAD! Try to deposit in molly? SHIELD LINK! Try to zip line? SHIELD LINK! Try to grab a crystal off the ground? SHIELD LINK! All it takes is someone standing in front of you for a SPLIT second at the wrong time, happens a lot more than you think! Beastmaster is ok but feels a bit off. Dash is stupid because I can't start and stop sprinting whenever I want, and as a dash MAIN, I have had to rewire my brain to have an invisible 1.5 second cooldown on sprinting at all now. Hoverboots is the LEAST of the problems. Sure it's trash because it's a hold and not a tap, and C is really stupid for it too, but come on man that's the least problematic one.

@Brass319

Жыл бұрын

@@lonejohnwolf idk about you but I almost never have any problems with any of these, shield link especially. Maybe that's because I use it on scout in place of dash (and because scout is antisocial, tends to work better when dividing and conquering, and doesn't take ziplines). I do see your point with berserker, though I have the recharge upgrade on my pickaxe so it doesn't happen as often as it would otherwise. Plus, this only really ever happens when I'm in a fight and want to use a bunch of power attacks anyways, so it ends up helping me more than hindering me. Beastmaster is probably the worst imo but not because of the keybind, because the priority for what grunt to tame is completely wack and should prioritize slashers and guards instead.

another thing to do if the devs really want some rng on it its adding more choices, like being able to choose between all 4 dwarves, primary or secondary, so it is still rng, but the chances of getting what you want its highly improved

@majorfallacy5926

Жыл бұрын

Yup this is the only viable compromise. Anything else would make the game considerably worse for me and my friends.

@pashutaz

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Also I think that promotion should give matrix cores only for promoted class

@ninochaosdrache3189

17 күн бұрын

​@@majorfallacy5926 How does less RNG makes a game less fun?

Important note: you can make it easier. If you're rerolling for a specific class or overclock - you can save after you got the two class option if there's the one you need. Exit the game, enter again and save. You will have the same classes but the overclock itself is randomized each time. Found out by accidentally triggering the forge mastery.

@Redarshia

9 ай бұрын

OMG thank you to be honest this is already exhausting I've been resetting my save for almost 3 hours and I still can't get the only one oc I want I don't even want anything else and to think that for every 40 seconds of resetting I would have to play for a week or something is just unimaginable and for the majority of the times I wasn't even getting the class I wanted but your comment really made the whole process easier also one other thing I have found out relying on in game backup saves or external backups which need restarting can be unreliable or time wasting so if you're ready to save just exit out, let it upload to cloud and then turn off cloud saves this will keep your save there every time letting you restart very quickly and reliably also your method doesn't even have the long animation

@patrickdhatt3129

5 ай бұрын

How do you save after getting getting to choose the class. You can't leave to spend credits.

@robbtarte2389

5 ай бұрын

Please elaborate on how to save after you got the two class options - do you mean save when the two options are on screen?

@yoaveragelostmain1862

4 ай бұрын

​@@robbtarte2389Haven't tried this yet but I thiiiiiiink they meant that, if you get (for example) the options to choose between gunner and engi, you exit the game, load back in and (Without opening the forge) spend credits

@schoolproject3356

4 ай бұрын

​@@yoaveragelostmain1862smart stout drinker

I always thought it would be great to see when selecting an overclock, from the places you get a choice, wether the overclock would be clean, balanced or unstable from the colour or design of the background on the icon. Because then at the very least you’d have a better idea about what you could get because the pool would be slightly smaller.

On the ethics of save scumming, I like how a friend of mine once put it: Life's too short to grind in a singleplayer game.

@Oddbeingchaff

Күн бұрын

100 fucking percent

Glad i happened to look at the server list at just the right time and let my curiosity check if it was a meme or not. Very well edited video and thank you for the knowledge. Will be using this. Edit: Worked, got Fire Arrows and Explosive Chemical Rounds, time consuming as save scumming tends to be, but far less time consuming than doing it the normal way.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

thanks, glad you enjoyed!

Nice video, the random aspect of the overclock grind is really a shame. I think a lot of players put the game down before they ever dive into them, and thats when I found the game really clicked. To be honest I think the player should just get to choose what weapon the oc is for, maybe even the specific oc. Its really lame to have a feature time gated and rng gated, the promotion rewards were a step in the right direction but hopefully we see some more changes.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's funny that the OC grind is presented as the endgame, when I think many of us who have been through that grind realize it's the mastery of the game mechanics, class mastery, combat skill and speed play, etc, that is the true endgame. Basically, improving intrinsically vs the external rewards of overclocks, which are actually just tools to help us get to mastery.

i got all the weapon overclocks I need, but came to say that this is a fantastically edited video! great job, dude!

Good stuff man, extremely well put together. Seems like you’re aware but definitely be ready for a torrential flood of people saying “the grind keeps people playing if you could pick you’d burn out”. Very silly perspective on the game IMO, player choice is always better than dice rolls in an instanced movement shooter 😂. Extremely well produced video and even better talking points, making me look bad here! Much love brother ❤

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

Axis my guy, appreciate the love! And yeah I'm predicting this vid won't land quite well with certain parts of the community. To me, it's a shame that a greenbeard might get super hyped after learning about Special Powder or Fat Boy etc, only to be let down once they realize how tedious the grind will probably be. I encourage all the "well I suffered through the OC grind" greybeards to show some empathy for our newer friends who might not be as dedicated to this game. Hoping this video can nudge the devs to a redesign the OC system and give players more agency over which overclocks they obtain (long shot, I know).

@jonathannash8471

Жыл бұрын

Firstly this game isn't much of a movement shooter, especially compared to games like Titanfall. BO3 gave far more movement than DRG does. I believe that movement is potentially the most important skill in DRG, but only because you survive by avoiding getting hit. In games with support classes and medics movement doesn't matter as much, since you can avoid death by getting healed. I disagree with your point here. I've had friends play DRG, find an OC they like from a YT video, grind until they get it, then quit when they stopped enjoying it. I also had a friend save scum to get RJ with only 30 hours in the game. When they went into Haz 6 and found RJ to be far less effective than their shard diffractor they just quit. It doesn't ruin everyone's fun, but I think it's a better attitude to ignore the OC grind. I think that if a player has around 90% of their missions completed being "assignment missions", and doesn't play much past the deep dives and weekly assignments is bound to stop playing once they stop progressing, or soon after they get an OC they've been waiting for. The ones that stick do other people's missions over their own, play random missions without profitable anomalies just for the sake of it, and relish in the excitement of BET-Cs, Nemeses, tyrant weeds, and all the other stuff that people might call annoying. They make the game more interesting, and that's what keeps this person playing, not the promise of shiny new upgrades.

@RoosSkywalker

Жыл бұрын

​@@chanceIIorswhile I very much enjoy the RNG I respect the choice of people to save-scum. It does not affect my fun in any way so why care?

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathannash8471 I like your perspective. The game is definitely not supposed to be all about getting the grind done and ignoring all the other stuff, but rather is meant for good times and exciting adventures. I love how it's even a bit realistic with how you often can't get what you want, just like in real life, but can deal with what you got. For the grind I just decided to fully commit to getting EVERY driller overclock, that way I can't be like "Man I really want this overclock! because I HAVE THEM ALL" 😂

@keithbassett007

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathannash8471 I agree mostly with your idea here and I defiantly fit the bill of what you are explaining. But why not give the people who will quit without progression new stuff at a much higher rate? Would that hurt the people's experience who don't play for rewards or progression? Even if they are going to potentially quit after they get everything they want, why not give them more stuff to try out new builds along the way and make it even more enjoyable for them while they are playing? If anything, it will keep them playing longer. It would be nice if everyone could be the people who just play for pure fun without wanting more variance in there gameplay, but a majority of people will want to have that change happening at a somewhat consistent rate, and to purposefully make the game less appealing for them is a big fault imo. Wouldn't people rather the game just have more players overall and also have a chance of them staying, even if a lot leave? You would still have a higher chance of people becoming veteran players that stay.

I'm down for a good grind sometimes but if luck leaves you out to dry then it's gonna start feeling quite rough. I'm going to save scum to get fat boy. I've been trying to get that one specifically, and after hundreds of hours and getting I think a quarter of all the matrix cores and 23/36 of engineer's overclocks, I am sick and tired of this crap. When I first started I had machine events all the time, then I got my tritilyte key, it dwindled, and now that I really wanted a fat boy I've gotten less than 10 machine events in the past 2 months.

Good video, the editing is good and the information was well-presented enough even for my adhd ass to pay full attention to it, you have my sub. rock and stone!

Honestly had to look at the date if it was april fools, forgot you can save scum alot things

I enjoyed the length of the overclock grind up until I tried getting some of my friends to play to which they all quit before their first promotion. It was then I realized how daunting the grind can be for casuals who do not plan to grind like crazy. So I do agree that GSG should do something to make the initial grind more beginner friendly to give more incentive to stay. I really like the overclock choice after each promotion milestone idea, I think that would be a good balance of keeping the current RNG system to keep mad lads who love grinding happy but also giving newcomers enough control over their progression to keep them engaged.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly! I've had multiple friends quit early on as well, glad to hear I'm not the only one. Now that I think about it, it's probably extra discouraging for our new friends to see us showing off the cool overclocks to them, since those OCs can feel so out of reach to people starting out. Hoping to see some changes to the system, but at least we can send them to this video guide in the meantime

@jonathannash8471

Жыл бұрын

If people quit before their first promo surely that can't be due to the OC grind no? I'd say it's more that they just don't enjoy the game - it's not everyone's cup of tea.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathannash8471 I think it's plausible someone might quit early because of OCs, especially in OP's case where it's a new friend being shown the ropes by someone who has much more experience. The greybeard friend might try to get their new friend hyped by showing off the cool OCs, only to then tell them the reality that "well, you might have to grind months / hundreds of hours to get these OCs". I know this because it happened to me when I was showing a friend the ropes. Oops. As for other reasons people might quit before their first promo, yeah it _could_ be that someone just didn't enjoy the game, but I also do think the game doesn't really set up greenbeards for success starting out. The tutorial is extremely barebones and outdated and I've heard multiple people miss the fact that you have to dig in the dirt to advance, because it was only explained in a brief window that popped up while they were distracted, etc. I also personally had no idea what was going on with missions and assignments at the start, and when you compound all these little frustrations up, it can lead to players just dropping the game for something better or more easily digestible.

@chastermief839

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathannash8471 i think it's a little of both. For me the game is fun enough on it's own that I don't mind the grind. I'm currently at around 480 hours and I still don't have all the weapons because I enjoy playing the game "slowly" (without grinding promotions, or even keeping up with weekly deep dives or core hunts). I spend most of my time playing public games or helping my friends promote their characters. I just really like shooting bugs and mining dirt so it doesn't feel like a chore to do missions, the dopamine hit comes from the game and not the slot machine at the end. But for many of my friends, the game's content isn't varied enough to warrant continued play. It is still a procedural generated game and there's only so many pieces it can pull from to make a mission. And when they found out that there was this huge grind for OCs looming over them, they dropped it. Some people just don't like having one game as their main hobby, they play a game until they feel like they've seen enough and then they move on to a new thing. For DRG, that moment comes a little while after you promote your first dwarf-- there is some short bursts of content to be seen from the Machine Events (like Omen Towers and Ebonite Glyphids), you have a few OCs and the extra perk so you can handle hazards 4 & 5, and deep dives are fun but they are basically just 3 regular missions back to back with the nitra and ammo management gimmick. Once you've seen all this stuff, it's basically just a drip feed of fun from the OC grind and then waiting for actual content drops each season.

extremely well made video, good stuff

I really hope the devs see this video. 202 hours into this game and am still missing many of the *fun* overclocks. I am a college student, any time I am not studying I am at work. The amount of time I dedicate to this game weekly has gone down in favor of other games where I can jump in and have fun. The most fun I have in DRG now is throwing together a randomized loadout and jumping into an elite deep dive without testing it first. I don't think I can invite friends to play this game with me (even though they already have the game from a previous sale, but they have never played it). If the person is not already playing the game they are not going to stick around.

Another suggestion to improve random - every 10 forge levels you can pick exact OC you want. Still pretty long road, but if you want something specific to try - you can force it if you have enough resources. And you will also forge a lot of additional OC/cosmetics, which you got randomly

The video and editing on this were great! Keep it up.

DRG also has built in save-scumming for PC, if you save by tip,, go to save menu, make a name and save as current, do ur forge, and restore save to the save you were previously on, you never have to backup or manually grab a save, it never saves over a save that's not (active save), although I don't know how this would interact with the (Main Save) status or sandboxing

I love your suggestions for the Icons and for direct overclock choice per 3 promotions. That sounds really cool. And the mitigation of the RNG in some cases. I agree that we need a more direct path. It's interesting to consider keeping some of both. Some avenues that are RNG and some that are direct-choice. Rock and Stone, Miner! oT

The video is really well made! You deserve more subs

Wow I thought this channel had a lot more subs with that editing, keep up the good work

55 SUBS?! What the heck man. Your video feels like at least 50k subs. Very well done! Rock and Stone Miner! You have gained a sub.

>Me sitting here with like 20 unclaimed engineer overclocks waiting for Fatboy

I think a neat idea for at least machine events is selecting the class (out of 3) you want the overclock (2 options) or cosmetic (1 option) for (similar to how it is currently) then that leaf of the menu opens up and you get to choose one of three random *revealed* matrix cores for that class it's still slightly random so it keeps you playing, yet you have a choice to pick your favorite out of three choices and you know what you get, and what you forgo acquiring until next time someone could probably elaborate on this idea more if they are so inclined

Lot of good ideas here boss, great vid.

Thanks for the video!

The editing on these videos is insane! You are an amazing designer/ editor

1:50 that TF2 style aesthetic looks great

The radioactive ring on the thumbnail simply by looking at Fat Boy was a nice touch.

I’m pretty happy with grinding for OC’s, as I’ve just gotten my first promotion and the OC I was provided with was Snowball. Having something to do in the game and something to aim for is what keeps me coming back to the game

This method isn't for me, but the video is very well made, and I always love more resources like this being available to players who want them. Was surprised to see you didn't even have 1k subs yet, definitely earned a new one!

So much nostalgia from the Maplestory music.. and a very informative video. Subbed

I just wish there was a daily shop that sold random oc they would cost a lot and it would encourage players to log on daily while being fair for the people who grind oc

Has save scumming been fixed? Might’ve done something wrong but it didn’t work for me

Insane video quality for the amount of subs you have. Keep up the videos and you will be big in no time!

i believe that overclocks should be craftable, like i think that having the random slot machine style overclock is fine but i think there should be a way to turn a blank core into a overclock of any kind just by spending resources in the hub, it would save, so many people, so much time, and is still fair in that its still randomized and it consumes resources to do

You say that random overclock are bad design by default, but having to make do with the overclocks you are given can be a really fun and interesting strategic challenge. This only works if all overclocks given are good in their own ways, which just isn't the case in Deep Rock Galactic.

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, people need to learn to appreciate what they got rather than act like spoiled brats who didn't get a ps5 for a birthday. 😂

@majorfallacy5926

Жыл бұрын

Yeah people online aren't aware that they're essentially demanding instant gratification. The overclock grind isn't the usual lootbox money making scheme we're used to, it's a conscious design choice to keep the feeling of discovery alive for as long as possible. There will always be a set of very vocal players who spoil the game for themselves and then get sad they can't replicate the build guide they saw on youtube, but imo it would be a very bad choice to design a non competitive game around them.

@alessandrosaltarin9990

Жыл бұрын

​@@lonejohnwolfdon't care, didn't ask. Enjoy getting homebrew powder, manual guidance cutoff, turret arc or any OC for the BRT that is not lead spray or experimental rounds. I'll go and play what i want

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@alessandrosaltarin9990 Turret arc was so trash when I used it. Also I will enjoy getting EVERY overclock I get no matter what it does.

@lonejohnwolf

Жыл бұрын

​@@alessandrosaltarin9990 I ain't a spoiled brat. 😂 Also nobody asked you to even come here. OOF got em

As a new player it's worth mention that even weapon unlocks are a bit of a grind for a new player WAAY before they even know what an overlock is. I started playing the game with 2 of my friends and I have put significantly more hours into it so I am have already promoted 2 classes and I am on my third, but my other 2 friends still haven't unlocked any new weapons after ~12 hours of playing. One doesn't seem to mind but the other seems a bit less interested to play more even though he liked the game. Makes me think if he found a gun that suited him more he would play more.

I think having weapon progression would be a really cool way to unlock weapon overclocks. By using a weapon you increase your proficiency with said weapon and in turn will get random ocs for the gun on weapon rank up. Weapon xp can be tied to mission xp. I think scalling it with kills could be bad especially for more single target dps and utlity based weapons.

Your editing is insane!

just spent the past 30 mins doing this since im on a forge mastery tier for a wep, and ofc I keep getting ones for the classes I don't play, and the ones I DO play are the most mid ones ever. At least NOW I don't feel robbed of my minerals and can keep doing it forever until I get one for Driller ^^ tysm for the tip

Thanks for this video, me and my friends actually quit drg after 4 months after we bought the game just because the game become really repetitive for us and the oc i get each week are mostly the weaker/unfun ones that makes the game very boring in season 3 (finished the bp and got all the cosmetic tree too). I only came back to play this game after my friend told me that season 4 update is here. This video really helps me finally having a way to get the overclock i want consistently and thus test out the builds i like!

I’m surprised you have such little subs, this editing is incredible

I'm 200h in and the only class I enjoy playing is Engineer, it takes just way too long to migrate to another class and even when you do there's another couple hundred hours waiting you for you to grind the OverClocks. I will be trying this save strategy and see if I can squeeze some more fun out of the game, until now I only got 1 OC for the Engineer and I already have tons of overclocks for other classes... Tired of doing so much and getting no direct reward from it Edit: After 4.5h of resetting my save I finally got the OverClock I wanted, 100% made me more invested in the game as I can now feel that I advanced in the game (as opposed to be at the same power level for tens of hours). I don't think you will find it fun to do this for every overclock, but it's really refreshing if you have been grinding for ages and not getting anything good.

This is an awesome video bro! I wish I knew you made videos and streamed on twitch. Hopefully we'll rock and stone next time you're on PS5.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

My man, small world! Not gonna lie I lost willpower to play on PlayStation with its degraded fps recently and no mods. But yes will hit you up next time I'm on!

@scottbeaudine3917

Жыл бұрын

@@chanceIIors What's up chancellors! What's up No Apologies!

@Beastly21100

Жыл бұрын

@@scottbeaudine3917 ayyy Beaudine!!

You know if this is doable on Xbox? I’ve grinded like 20 different overclocks and only 1 of them is driller. I don’t even play any other class than driller and it’s frustrating me.

Just saw this just after I got the special powder OC- the last specific OC I was looking for. Very sneaky trick!

Having got EVERY overclock in ≈1 year of playing and now over player level 500 with ≈1,300-1,400 hours under my belt (long before players got 3 cores from promotions), I very much agree with you on the grind needing a rework, overhaul, or whatever term you could use to change it for the better. I’ve bought DRG for several friends at this point, but the one and only thing I dread is any one of them hypothetically putting the game down due to them not having much of any input on what overclock they’ll be wanting to earn. I got INSANELY lucky with getting disgustingly good overclocks very early on (first Autocannon one being Neurotoxin Payload and first Boomstick one being Special Power, still can’t believe that even to this day), and having had to go through several periods of grinding dives and even resorting to repeatedly going in and out of levels as Scout in order to find core events just to get overclocks from whatever blank cores I had, the grind is still pretty horrendous even with it being shortened ever so slightly due to promotions now giving cores. GSG has put a lotta love into their game and has made me have so many enjoyable and memorable moments slamming bear and slaying bugs, but my brother in Karl, that overclock grind was not it. BUT, the euphoria I felt closing in on the last ones I had to get and finally seeing only mineral cores from core events and dives was something to behold. Your video was excellent; nicely done. Rock & Stone! ⛏️

thabk you, this will be very useful to me. i'm a greenbeard who's just reached the point where overclocks are my main avenue of progression and seeing as how many good builds are locked behind having some of them, and how big the pool is, i'll feel no shame in doing this so i can then play the game in a way i like

the chance of getting the specific overclock you desire from forging mastery is roughly 1.4%. 50% chance to get the class you want, 1/6 to get a weapon you want, and then most weapons have 6 overclocks so its another 1/6 - 0.5 * 1/6 * 1/6 ~ 1.4%. With some mods i optimized the cycle down to like 20 seconds between each attempt. Took me around 20-30 minutes to get what i wanted. The mods i used are a hotkey to access station elements like the forge, and fast forging to skip the animation. At least half of the time goes down for loading screen, but my game was on HDD and running through Wine, so yours could be much faster than that.

Ah yes, the nuke, that one stray "bullet" that just so happens to find me every time to say hello and ruin yet another h5 run.

The forge is much faster than promoting since you get to choose the class that the overclock is for. Its also easier to get 5 forge unlocks than a promotion.

great video!

They could also add free timed OCs every week. Or assignments for the specific OCs every week.

I got special powder in like my first 3 OCs when I started, had no idea it was that useful! Thank you

If I get a save file with the stuff unlocked it would work or do I get a buggy save file?

Thanks to this method, I got Magic Bullets for my Bulldog. Felt great, I really wanted to pair it with Jetfuel Homebrew for the Hurricane. Spent over 6 hours rerolling and got pmuch every single overclock in this game but the one I wanted. Ultimately I settled on the Carpet Bomber after it rolled for the 5th time

I was lucky enough to get into the game when drg save editor was still working. It has since become obsolete due to updates to DRG and the save editor dev moving on to other projects. After getting my first dwarf to level 25, i immediately used the save editor to do the same for all dwarves to skip the grind. Then after hitting the weekly matrix core bottleneck for a few weeks I decided f it. I know which overclocks I want (special powder, neurocannon, hipster, tuned cooler etc) and decided to get them all. from then on whenever I did a deep dive etc, it was for cosmetics and fun, not a chance to unlock. in my opinion they should make overclocks exclusive to deep dives and let you pick which one you want.

I think being able to choose specific weapons to get overclocks for would be great. Ive been grinding overclocks for engi even though I mostly want grenade launcher OCs

Did I do something wrong if I did not receive those type of rewards from promoting? I don't even remember what I got but no overclock.

I just enabled the console and gave myself 100 blank cores, then played the game normally. Not having to skip machine events because I didn't have a core made the game so much more enjoyable and the overclocks flowed at a natural pace. I'm capped on everything now and with the regular events and sometimes doing core hunts for giggles I still have a significant surplus of cores. In the event they do ever add more weapon OCs, I have so many uncrafted cosmetics sitting in my forge that I could bang them all out with mastery. Save scumming, console, save editing, whatever enables you to have fun. DRG isn't a competitive game and as long as you're not directly griefing someone else, Rock and Stone.

Thanks again. I've only played for 1.5 months and now I have some of the very best OCs

I didn’t found minelayer oc, in the fort I can found all oc right?

The proposed solutions would be amazing for cosmetic stuff too. The cosmetic pool is so large at this point one cannot afford to skip completing the pass else the odds just further stack against them.

A system that allows you to very exceptionaly choose one specific overclock would be a great addition indeed

I'm pretty new to DRG and have been maining Engi. I only just realized how lucky I was to unlock Volatile Impact Reactor on Shard Diffractor as my first OC for it, very shortly after unlocking the weapon. I tried Diffractor out as soon as I unlocked it, and realized I really liked it. Then I got VIR from the the next Blank Core I infused (and I believe the second one I infused ever. I've only gotten like 4 total), and it's been so helpful. Being able to just quickly sweep the beam across the ground and lay down magma to deal with groups of squishier ground foes like grunts has been amazing.

Is there a particular reason to copy the main save (PC version) instead of another one? I copied one of the backup saves that was exactly the right time. After moving it back into the saves folder the corresponding backup file just updated in the save menu and so I didnt have to restart the game. Anyway, thank you for this method! I've used it now to get some specific OCs that I wanted and it will be even more useful to my friend who plays engineer only.

So far ive only played gunner, got him to 1 promotion and level 16 or 17, and out of all the overclocks i have ive only gotten one for gunner which was a mid one for the BRT7 which i dont even play, and that i only got from finishing an *eight or nine mission assignment* I definitely feel like while it's fine to get overclocks for other classes, it would really help if you had a much higher chance for overclocks to be for your current class, or maybe even your currently equippped weapons

Bro thank you so much, this came at the perfect time for me as I've put around 200 hours into the game and so far my only complaint has been the overclock RNG. When I promoted my engineer the second time and got driller overclocks I was so fucking confused. Like, your telling me that my reward for putting 20 hours of gameplay and practice into one character is an item for a different character I haven't even touched? Most messed up thing. The other thing they should change is have options for all 4 characters at the core infuser, and allow us to chose if we want an overclock or a cosmetic. This isn't really an issue to the longevity of the game in my opinion, cause even if you got 9 overclocks for the same character in one week (includes deep dives, core hunt, forge mastery and a promotion) it would still take around 3-4 weeks to get every overclock for that character, so just letting us choose what to do with our 4 blank cores that week is the minimum.

Does the PlayStation version also work on Xbox, or is there nothing you can do on Xbox about it?

is the overclock for promotion given at the first promotion or are they given after the first?

I didn't get any cores when I promoted any of my dwarves, so when was that implemented?

I am new, Engi main. Just got my first promotion and stuff like that, and it only gave my overclocks for the other three classes. Since I have very limited time to play, I will certainly save scum to get an overclock for the class I play next time I get a chance.

Just use a save file editor if you're going to do this. The bottleneck for me back when I was going hard on DRG was blank cores. I was fine with getting random OCs I just hated not having a core to get them from events. I edited my save to give me 20-30 blank cores and it has been so much better. Now I have 30-40 blank cores and all the weapon OCs, just grinding out the cosmetics.

@0x4e6f31

Жыл бұрын

How to do this?

@chastermief839

Жыл бұрын

that was my first thought as well lol. If you're manipulating your file with the windows file editor already why even bother relying on the ingame mechanics? It's like going through the trouble of rigging a slot machine when you could just open it up and take the money out.

@Wolfnacht

Жыл бұрын

How to do this tho?

Maplestory BGM! Thank you for the video!

As a person who spent every possible opportunity to get special powder only for it to be in the last 5 overclocks I got, I would've loved to know about save scumming sooner. I also have a theory to make it faster. In Borderlands 2, many players on PC will get to a certain point right before a mission reward and force a game save. But or BL2 instead of backing up the .sav file, I'll open the properties for it and change it to "Read Only" to easily and infintely farm an item you can only aquire once per playthrough. I have yet to try this method in DRG, but if it works I'll replay to my comment later.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

This "read only" strat seems super interesting, definitely let me know if it works!

@jonathannash8471

Жыл бұрын

How'd you get it in your last 5? There are more than 5 OCs on all the other classes. When I made a steam account to play with mates on there I only took driller OCs when they were available to get full auto subata faster. Wasn't quick, but got it in the end with still 80% of all OCs still locked because I didn't choose the other classes for machine events.

@vintajecheese7803

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathannash8471 some times you get super unlucky and you don't get your respective classes to choose from. I had plenty of bad RNG when it came to A. the scout overclocks I got and B. how many times scout was an option after doing an event. I got almost equally unlucky getting hipster for the M1K and fat boy for PGL, was super lucky to get hyper propellent early on.

@vintajecheese7803

Жыл бұрын

@@chanceIIors works almost exactly how it does in BL2. I had to speedrun towards my promotion but headache aside, all you have to do is instead of copying the .sav file just open its properties and tick the read only box then hit apply. And the best part is you can keep rerolling the rewards without restarting the game. Video's up showing how it looks, nothing too special.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

@@vintajecheese7803 Checked out the video, so if I'm understanding correctly you can just load the same save file indefinitely within the game since it's read-only? And you don't have to keep quitting out of the game and copy-pasting the one you put aside. Then when you get something you want, do you edit the save file so it has read and write access, while the game is still open?

What cosmetic mods are those on the gk2

I honestly hope they don't change it. I liked that there was a finite number of OC's you could get each week. Up to three blanks, weapons and cosmetics from assignments and deep dives is plenty per week. Most weeks I didn't do all of them. Plus there is bonuses from forge and now promotions. I got excited each time we found a machine event on a mission, cos it was time for a reward. If there was a specific OC I had in mind, I tended to get it pretty quick by only focusing on that class. I hear the argument that its only for players who are sticking around, but it was/is cool to have something to do each time I pick up the game. And if we are going to look at the 40 hour and under players as this video suggests, hell, wouldn't they be still mining minerals to unlock the weapon mods, for multiple weapons, across all the classes? The way it is set up, you experiment with new toys when you get them. Try new builds when they become available. While it is personal preference, I consider this better than a 'cookie cutter' player base where you've read the meta on a forum and go straight to that build.

@anstorner

Ай бұрын

There needs to be something to reduce the RNG of getting what you want, i have every overclock for weapons that i dont use, but have the worst in each of the weapons i Actually use in all classes, or none of the funny ones because my luck is dogwater

When I heard that the Deepcore GK2 was getting a big buff in Season 3 I was solely gunning for AI Stability Engine. I put in a couple hours everyday and it still took me over 2 months to get. I didn't have many Scout overclocks before but by the time I got Stability Engine I had Scout nearly complete. I love the Deepcore accuracy and damage build but can't say it was worth over 2 months of grinding for 1 specific OC

Yesterday, through forge mastery, got a Neurotoxin overclock for my thundercannon! thanks to you! Also won a RJ250 for my boy engineer on my first Deep Dive that day :D

@Ivan-kx3iw

11 ай бұрын

Congratulations! So is it safe to use?

@LazyBuddyBan

11 ай бұрын

@@Ivan-kx3iw yeah, just make 2 saves. First save as restore point, second save as the one where you try to get overclock through forge mastery/prestige. If you get not something you want, use restore save function to get back second save to the state of first save

@Ivan-kx3iw

11 ай бұрын

@@LazyBuddyBan i tried today, that's cool) Now I don't need to grind hundred hours to get cool overclocks

wait is the rng such that u can get multiple of the same overclock? b/c i would argue that the solution would be that the pool of overclocks shrinks as u get them ie u never get the same over clock twice.

That's huge man, can't believe I didn't think of that earlier. Thanks

13:33 I think the idea of having more direct rewards for each class is a much better alternative to the rng system in place currently. I think the overclock rewards for promoting was a really good addition to the game but like you said, its only a step in the right direction and not a complete solution. I think I could be on board with rng if the rewards from the forge and promotions were class specific (ie. Whatever class you have equiped is the class you recieve rewards for). Having only just thought of it im not sure where i stand on the notion of having OCs be locked into consistent level rewards, like base mod tiers and other equipment is already. On the one hand, having a clear progression where players can know what to expect could be more of an incentive to stick with the game more. It could also add some extra benefit to prestiging each dwarf. The other hand however is concerned with balancing. How would the unlock ranks for OCs be spaced? The game could become more grindy, since with the rng system at least players have the chance of getting desired OCs earlier on. Not totally a fleshed out idea, but an idea none the less. Anything that give the players more control of the experience they have with this otherwise amazing game i thonk is a good step.

Does the save scumming work if ps plus is on another account?

I wanted to try this since I was close to both a promotion and a forge mastery, Ironically I got realy good overclocks form both without reloading the save

can't this corrupt your save file or make it buggy like the file editors?

I’d argue RJ250 is way more important than Fat Boy. RJ250 gives a ton more ammo, stacking with the ammo mods, and as long as you take heat (which reduces damage, bonus for its effect), you can still kill groups of glyphids just as easily. For Scout, I’d rank Hipster way higher than Special Powder, as it turns the M-1000 from an M1 Garand into a (good) M14, with decent crowd control and just a ton of fun to spam. I’d also say, for the importance/hunt list, I’d probably rank overclocks with special effects or changes higher, along with the highly regarded good ones (ammo mods for the Breech Cutter, Stuffed Shells for the Boomstick, etc). I’d rank all Homebrew Powder cleans, Double Barrel, and Missile Guidance Cutoff as the worst ones to get.

@chanceIIors

Жыл бұрын

I agree to some extent, I actually don't use the "holy trinity" of famous OCs (SP, NTP, Fat Boy) that often, but I recommended them due to their "fame" within the broader community. Would love to hear your feedback on my next video where I'll share more personal picks for best OCs!

@SargeanTravis

Жыл бұрын

I would also like to make a case for Hyperpropellant. I was sad that the first unstable PGL was hyper instead of Fat Boy, but then I tinkered with it. With hyper you essentially have a .50 cal sniper rifle in your pocket. You get much more ammo than fat boy, and you obliterate most huge enemies that dare to expose their weakspot to you, as well as having pinpoint accuracy. It doesn’t do AoE well but in cases where that isn’t an issue, I am out damaging gunners on eliminations simply to how much chunk damage hyper does

@Tatercon

Жыл бұрын

​@@SargeanTravishyperprop gets a +1 from me. One shots the mech patrolers, nearly one shots pretorians, one shots menaces just for a few high priority targets on hazard 5. Ive never looked back after equiping it.

Amazing editing, would have thought you were a 1 mill sub channel

Thanks man🎉

Can someone help me do this with my xbox gamepass pc version of deeprock?

The hardest part of the grind is getting enough matrix cores to do events, I do the deep dive and the core hunt and still almost always have a constant 0 cores available, it’s kinda annoying you should get one from lost equipment and cargo crates too if you find then

For some reason all of the options in my save menue are greyed out

what a cool video, I'd never thought about the save files on steam! I don't think save scumming is unethical, unethical is designing a predatory game system to make people spend their lifespan in important game mechanics such as overclocks. They must provide some way to grind for specific overclocks and make RNG centric cosmetics, titles and achievements that are trivial to casuals. In general save scumming is a symptom of lack of QoL or lack of communication with its player base.

Cheating is a certified rock and stone moment. Good that I don't have to spend 400 hours to get the correct OC

I would love for someone to test out how random overclocks actually are when doing this method. I have farmed certain overclocks for literal hours at a time with no luck. Ill get "light cases" for what feels like 25% of the time, and half the overclocks never show up. I swear there has to be some sort of pool of overclocks that the game chooses from for whatever reason when you do this because every time I do it, i get the same overclocks over and over and over again with most overclocks never appearing. It is statistically impossible for this to happen, please someone test this.

Yesterday i was about to save scum and then got special powder from the forge mastery on my first try, then later on a mission I got fat boy from a core infuser