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One thing to remember. Most of the frames rust from the inside out since there is no way for trapped water to get out. There are videos where people drill drain holes near the lower mounts, clean out the inside and spray it with fluid film or a paint product from Eastwood. Technically you shouldn’t drill in the bottom or top of rectangular tube as it can weaken it, but a rusted through frame is pretty weak. Make your own decision.

@Jim-uo7mz

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I don’t know why they even put all those holes for water to get trapped.

@mcphotonow3791

Жыл бұрын

Planned obsolescence… can’t sell new Jeep if old last forever. Who really knows what the government planned for us 😂 when future jeeps were built off original. Customer for the most part just sees the “top”, not what is hiding beneath. All the more reason current buyers of jeeps, especially older ones are checking frames like crazy and walking if they see it or buying for a lot less

That's cute except Jeep frames, especially TJ's rust from the inside out. What you are doing is mostly cosmetic. The reason they rust is because there are holes on the sides for dirt, mud, salt, and moisture to get in, and no way for it to get out. On a TJ you need to drill holes approximately 1" in diameter in the bottom of the frame front and rear, right where the frame flattens out. Then stick a garden hose in the side holes and rinse it until the water runs clear. Blow as much water out as possible with compressed air and bake the frame with a heat lamp for several days. Then buy a product like wool wax or pb blaster frame coating in a gallon can and coat the inside of the frame with a rust proofing gun with flexible nozzles.

@gofasters1

2 ай бұрын

Not an issue in dry climates.

My father taught me 40 yrs ago to set up a lawn sprinkler and drive vehicle over it many times to wash salt/etc off bottom of vehicle. Dad's been gone 15 yrs ago.. r.i.p

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a smart man. Thanks for watching.

Live in NJ. My TJ is in for frame rail repair. Silver lining is that my wife said "do you need a new suspension, isn't now the time to do it while it's in the shop?" Say hello to my new Fox 2.0s, springs and Teraflex sway bar...

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

The light at the end of the tunnel lol! That’s awesome! Thanks for watching!

Looks like you could do that with any vehicle to prevent rust. Informative video

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, thanks for watching!

I just purchased my first jeep. It’s a 1997 sport M/T, your channel is very informative it really helped me with my search and what to look for when inspecting them. Thank you!

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

Happy I could help!! Thanks for watching!

Once again, great information for us Jeep TJ owners................. THANKS!

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all of your support! Happy to help!

Glad to see more TJ's in Montana! Helpful video, probably going to tackle this in the upcoming summer.

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

💪 heck yeah man! Thanks for watching!

Great tips brother, really glad I subscribed!!

If you want to rust proof the frame, you stick a hose through one of the holes in the frame with a high-pressure air hose and do it all in there on the bottom and then vacuum it and spray inside there

Believe me, I know about the tj rust!! A few months ago, I did the safety caps from the front control arm back to the rear upper spring perch on both sides. And like 2 years ago I did patch work on the torque boxes, and replaced those upper rear spring perches. Also replaced rusty gas tank skid plate. And while I was at it on the last frame weld job, I installed a slip yoke eliminator and tom woods driveshaft. And that's just a few things, I've done since I've owned it. Past two weeks I've taken all accessories off to repaint, the work is constant on an old tj, but they are going up in value, so it's worth it👊🤓👍

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you definitely sound well versed it the rust world lol! Tom woods are the best. Future project for me. You’re right, they keep going up and boy are they fun! 😃

Great video,, I've watched tons of these videos and this one is the best by far. I just got a 2018 JK out of NY with a little surface subframe rust. Lucky the jeep was garaged and only driven 3000 miles a year. Now she's in dry southern Utah shouldn't be any rust issues especially doing what you just showed on the video to my Jeep. Thx

@Montanaoffroad1

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Enjoy your JK!

The problem with spraying a coating over metal is that the coating will eventually chip from rocks / pebbles etc chipping away at the coating. So unless you are able to periodically check the entire undercarriage you’re going to have rust eventually

Awesome Vid! Definitely a wknd project for me! Thanks for the info!

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

You bet, thanks man 😃

Nice Video! Looks great!

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks you, and thanks for watching!

Good to drill holes in the low spots where the water sits for drainage. Then spray inside the frame with a corrosion inhibitor like fluid film. im in Massachusetts. the rust that you hit is just cosmetic, they rust from the inside.

Cool video. I always enjoy your content as a fellow TJ enthusiast!!!

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Love these comments Jeremy! Glad you are enjoying the videos, a lot more to come!

Looks brand new! Nice job 😄

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Love how it turned out!

You should drill drain holes in a couple of places at low points in the frame as Tj frames often rot from the inside out as well due to no drainage. Eastwood makes a great interior frame coating too to prevent rust.

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, I have been looking at adding some drain holes and ill look into the interior frame coating!

Damn dude! You did awesome!

@Montanaoffroad1

4 ай бұрын

Thanks man ❤️

By keeping the underneath under coated and cleaning that helps a lot. Montana uses a "liquid deicer" per say on the roads in town. Left on the metal or chrome it will rust. I run my vehicles( Jeep included) thru a car wash even in the winter to try to remove the stuff.

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, it’s definitely good to be as proactive as possible and keep everything coated and cleaned!

Pressure wash to get dirt and grime of the frame. The Rust reformer might not work well otherwise. I use water based "1-Step' non toxic and it performs well

Why don’t they pre-coat the frames from the factory?

my tj had rust inside frame cleaned it out and sprayed using a bug sprayer with linseed oil thinned a bit with paint thinner it dries to a protective layer and drilled drain holes in the low spots and plugged factory holes

I’m waking up at 4am and driving 6 hours to meet my brother and trade him my 2011 Jetta for his 98 Wrangler. He’s up in Wa so he has a bit of rust but not too bad all together. This video was super helpful so thank you so much, I liked and subscribed cause imma need a lot more help in the coming months

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great trade, I’m excited for you! I have a lot more content on the way and I appreciate you taking the time to let me know you enjoyed my video! Have a safe trip and get ready to start your new addiction!

@MichaelShmidt

Жыл бұрын

Congrats!! You're going to love it! I just got a 98' last year. I am loving every minute of it!!

@UnknownJJP

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelShmidt loving every minute of it already. I’ve torn it apart and built it back together already. Took it mudding on the 1st though and might have killed the transmission. Haven’t had time or weather to properly disassemble it yet though but it may already be time for a V8 swap lol. Break shit to upgrade shit am I right 😂.

Looks nice and clean! The before and after makes it obvious just how much an improvement it is… looks incredible! At least, until you run through mud the first time 🤣 Happy 4th of July

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Hopefully it cleans up nice! Happy 4th!

Have you tried their 2 in 1 rust reformer? When I was going to buy these two items I saw they have a two-in-one. Thx

I see some Rust spots on bolts, diff, and suspension.. should that be worked on as well?

Nice I’m gonna try that with my jeep how many coats of each did you do

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

Just one solid coat should do it!

can I just use the rust reformer without undercoating?

do you just go out in the forest to work on your TJ? thats badass!

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

That’s correct! Glad you enjoy it, thanks for watching!

Take the skid plates off and cross members and work on them individually, that’s what I did.

Drill holes in the frame Low points oil Fog inside the frame

Ramp on a soft surface, not too good.

Never ever use plastic ramps. I had a very close call on time when a brand new set failed on me. Be safe out there everybody.

You just cleaned up the outside of the frame. You need to get into the channel inside the frame...... Start using PB blaster surface shield... It's a lanolin oil that will soak into the rusted areas and keep water out so no future rust will happen....

Can you show us in a future video how the undercoating is holding up. And maybe what you would do different if anything. Thanks.

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Jason, I plan on doing a follow up in the coming months! Probably after a couple months of snow season to get a good indicator. Thanks for watching!

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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@Auxbeam

2 жыл бұрын

@@Montanaoffroad1 No problem:)

you could have just lied and said you waited 24hrs to apply the coating. with the magic of cameras you know :)

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

Mamma didn’t raise a liar 😂 thanks for watching!

Don't forget to wash out whatever is inside the frame and spray the inside too.

@Montanaoffroad1

2 жыл бұрын

Very good point! Thanks for watching!

@ltami

Жыл бұрын

How would you go about doing this?

@tgkg

Жыл бұрын

@@ltami I would take a water hose and wash out any dirty you have collected inside. Blow out with compressed air, let it dry for a day or 2 and use Eastwood frame sealer kit(or your choice of sealer with tube extensions and 360 nozzle).

No way would this work here in Maine. You call that degreasing? @4:45, where is all the water to remove the soap film and oil? And the two says of drying necessary? I hate these videos that make this look like a one day job! I’m 30 hours into a frame treatment, and it involves taking off the fuel tank to make sure the most important places are protected. This is ridiculously over simplified.

@Montanaoffroad1

Жыл бұрын

This video is meant from general instruction and the amount of effort needed to be put in will be based on your location and in what kind of shape your frame is in. I would recommend making your own video if you would like to expand further on what it’s like to fix a frame in one of the worst rust areas in the country. Thanks for watching.