How to find stationary points and determine the nature (Example 2) : ExamSolutions

Worked example of finding a stationary point through differentiation, and determining whether it is a maximum or minimum.
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    4 жыл бұрын

    I dont understand the nature table part. Why does the 30x turn to negative but the 60x not?

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    @ahmadshumail731

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahad because x=-2 so 60 x (-2 x -2 x -2 x -2) = positive BUT for 30 x (-2 x -2 x -2 x -2 x -2) = negative Zat make sense?

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    8 жыл бұрын

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  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths13 жыл бұрын

    @thezohan2112 You could look at the gradient either side. I show this in other tutorials on stationary points. Have you seen them? Look on my index on the homepage of my website if not.

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    9 жыл бұрын

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    @mariehill65475 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video! Just a quick question, can you prove that a stationary point is the point of inflection when a small decrease/ increase in x means that dy/dx is positive on both sides? Thank you!

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    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    8 жыл бұрын

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    8 жыл бұрын

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    @mok89368 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Do I need to know both the differential methods or can I get away with just knowing one? Thanks

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    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @thezohan2112
    @thezohan211213 жыл бұрын

    what would you do instead of the double differentiation??

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    @savokisan Жыл бұрын

    one question. How did you determine the shape of the graph at last part ?

  • @Therealryu10
    @Therealryu1011 жыл бұрын

    can't you say that when d2y/dx2=0, the nature of the sationary point is that it's an inflexion, or is it always inconclusive and do you have to resort to the table

  • @ACiDiC619
    @ACiDiC61911 жыл бұрын

    you can use the fact that when d2y/dx2=0 and d3y/dx3 doesn't = 0 the stationary point is a point of inflexion?

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    6 жыл бұрын

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    @zamdwa708411 жыл бұрын

    @daniel bonello you factorize the x^4 out

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    8 жыл бұрын

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    8 жыл бұрын

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  • @bahlolrehman1503
    @bahlolrehman15034 жыл бұрын

    Hi peter, you are an amazing teacher. I wanted to ask that why do you put the value of the x cordinate in the second differential i.e dy2 divided by dx2.

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is the point we are testing and d^2y / dx^2 gives the rate of change of gradient and from this (see previous tutorial) we can tell the nature of the stationary point.

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    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ExamSolutions_Maths Thank you.

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths13 жыл бұрын

    @wearemce2010 differentiate, equal it to zero, factorise and solve.

  • @JamBeauty
    @JamBeauty10 жыл бұрын

    hi i got a question to do but ive never done it with only two numbers...i hope you can help....here goes....what are the stationary points of this function x3 (cube)- 6x2(square)

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths11 жыл бұрын

    You cannot say with certainty that when d2y/dx2=0 that the point is a point of inflexion so yes refer to the table.

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  • @AM-pg6vy
    @AM-pg6vy9 жыл бұрын

    As you said instead of zero we can try to -2 but if we take the -3 on left side and -1 in right wont the value -3 out number the -2 which is out of range ?

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  • @DannyMLT
    @DannyMLT11 жыл бұрын

    Hi , I also divided by 30 and was left with 2x^4 + x^5... how do you factorise from this ? Thanks for the vids If I pass my degree exam will deff be leaving a nice donation :)

  • @jacobwilson5584
    @jacobwilson55847 жыл бұрын

    When you add x= -2 into d^2y/dx^2 it comes to -4320, did i do something wrong because this doesn't make sense!

  • @georgeacres4
    @georgeacres47 жыл бұрын

    at 6:29, with 60x^4 when x=-1, how does that equal 60? I got that it equals -60 because -1^4 is -1, and 60*-1 is -60. Please can you explain?

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    7 жыл бұрын

    -1 x -1 x -1 x -1 = 1 not -1. I suggest you think of it as (-1)(-1)(-1)(-1) especially if using a calculator

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    Legend

  • @phyusinmyint1752
    @phyusinmyint17524 жыл бұрын

    hi you are such a great teacher but for the first question I got -703, what did I do wrong

  • @Amanda-bg7ib
    @Amanda-bg7ib3 жыл бұрын

    If the second derivative = 0, then it is a point of inflection (meaning it changes from concave up to down or vice versa). The result is not inconclusive 4:56

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to say but it is until you do the table. If you were to have say y=x^4, dy/dx=4x^3 and when dy/dx=0, x=0, y=0, d2y/dx^2 = 12x^2 and when x=0, d2y/dx^2=0 but it is a min in this case not a point of inflexion.

  • @ws10football5
    @ws10football54 жыл бұрын

    How did you get x as 0

  • @nadh3478
    @nadh34784 жыл бұрын

    Sorry.. can i know why we need to to make that table??

  • @monicaj7539
    @monicaj75399 жыл бұрын

    What if one of the (x) is zero. What do you do then.. I learnt you got to work with (0.5) and (-0.5)?? Though I am abit unclear with this.

  • @monicaj7539

    @monicaj7539

    8 жыл бұрын

    Pardon?

  • @eliopalombi

    @eliopalombi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Monica J still waiting

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    @kingHD115 жыл бұрын

    This is fucking brilliant wow thank you

  • @ryangoburdhone8149
    @ryangoburdhone81498 жыл бұрын

    why does x = 0 when finding the second differential?

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Ryan Goburdhone It was the point we found at 1:57.

  • @wearemce2010
    @wearemce201013 жыл бұрын

    how to find Stationary point F(x) = x^4 - 1/2x^2 +1

  • @ishebacornwall5885
    @ishebacornwall58856 жыл бұрын

    How did he get the 2 + x in the brackets?

  • @z4inz

    @z4inz

    6 жыл бұрын

    He factorised it. You can just use a calculator for that.

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths11 жыл бұрын

    Not at all. For example take y=x^4. when x=0 it is a min

  • @zamdwa7084
    @zamdwa708411 жыл бұрын

    Can't u just say that when x=0 d2y/dx2 =0 and therefore it is a horizontal point of inflection?

  • @DavidBux101
    @DavidBux1016 жыл бұрын

    hey ive got a math test tomorrow wish me luck cya

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    6 жыл бұрын

    A bit late but I hope it went well.

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    @linozapped62783 жыл бұрын

    I have my math methods test tomorrow wish me luck

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths

    @ExamSolutions_Maths

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best wishes Lino

  • @losblancos99
    @losblancos999 жыл бұрын

    At 8:30 I tried the 1 differienational method and got the point (-2,-63) as a maximum point. Help please!

  • @WiseFoolTrading

    @WiseFoolTrading

    9 жыл бұрын

    losblancos99 You probably did something wrong when using the first differential. I used the first differential method and I got (-2,-63) as a minimum point.

  • @losblancos99

    @losblancos99

    9 жыл бұрын

    Wise Fool Your comment is a bit late as I already did my exam two days ago but I'm fine now

  • @WiseFoolTrading

    @WiseFoolTrading

    9 жыл бұрын

    losblancos99 Haha well I have mine coming up on Wednesday!

  • @losblancos99

    @losblancos99

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I got another Maths exam on that day too. I am doing C2 OCR

  • @WiseFoolTrading

    @WiseFoolTrading

    9 жыл бұрын

    losblancos99 I see. I'm retaking exams from my edexcel module.

  • @Jasonlimitless
    @Jasonlimitless9 жыл бұрын

    While plotting the graph 'This is not to scale but I just want to illustrate a few points' Slipping sneaky calculus joke in there?

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    @anthonymezzatesta13652 жыл бұрын

    Callux? 🤔

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    @ACiDiC61911 жыл бұрын

    can you*

  • @Jasmineliketheflower
    @Jasmineliketheflower5 жыл бұрын

    how does x^4 = 0 .sorry I don't understand

  • @lacerav5818

    @lacerav5818

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jasmine liketheflower either 2+x is 0 or 30x^4 is 0 because the whole expression is 0 so anything times 0 is 0 so at least one of them has to be 0 for the expression to be equal to 0 so x^4 has to be 0 because 30 times 0 is 0 and that times 2+x is 0

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    @Sxyel3 жыл бұрын

    i am very sry but this made everything more complicated. Is there an easier way?

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    @chigozie27393 жыл бұрын

    Please why do you differentiate twice

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    @yamin_053 жыл бұрын

    i dont fucking understand anything you dont even explain you just do examples

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    @shehlaamir6011

    3 жыл бұрын

    because this is a example video. he has videos where he actually explains the concepts. you can watch them instead.