This reminds me of observing the Ring Nebula when I was a kid with a 6 inch reflector. It has similar magnitude. If you didn't know where to look, you'd never see it. It appeared like one shade lighter from pure black. I showed it to my father, he couldn't see it

Thx for this. Couldnt find it tonight, will be more hard-core next go

How about wearing an eye patch? Wear it for the 30 to 40 minutes, then when you're get under a shroud etc., move the eye patch to your other eye. I just read about that and I think it will work. Now that I think about it, I have seen this before. When I was deployed on a submarine and we were at periscope depth at night, the control room switched on all red lights. The officer of the deck, however, might have other things he needed to do before taking over "the conn". Reading messages, etc., in parts of the boat still using white light. He would wear an eyepatch to protect his night vision until he took over the watch.

Thanks Jason! I have an eyepatch that I wear over my viewing eye for a half hour before viewing while my telescope cools off; I switch it to my other eye while viewing so I don't have to squint!

@ftumschk

2 жыл бұрын

What a great idea!

@EleanorPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. And you get to say "Ha haaar!" and have a parrot perch on your shoulder, too... (Seriously, though: the eyepatch is a very good idea because it's both comfortable and absolutely foolproof.)

@Astronurd

2 жыл бұрын

It’s your brain that becomes dark adapted not your eyes. Both need to be in the dark

@Panicagq2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Astronurd I disagree based on experience. Try it! It's better if both eyes are in the dark, yes - but the results are still amazing.

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Colonel panic. It's a great idea I do know a few people who do that, I sometimes do it so I can keep both eyes open at the telescope which is the correct way of looking through a telescope but in most cases it's not dark enough to block distractions from the eye that's not at the eyepiece, so an eyepatch is the perfect solution :)

I didn't have a hard time finding it, I had a hard time seeing it with less than an 8" aperture until I turned my 127mm F12 Maksutov on it. That 1500mm focal length brought it in better than my 6" reflector. I live in the desert and my closest viewing spot is Bortle 4 and looking North is darker. To the East is darker, but there are mountains in the way and I can't see things until they're about 15 degrees above the horizon if we were at sea.

Hi Jason! Thanks for the vid. It's a good challenge! I managed to spot this one in my horrendous Bortle 9 sky with my 6" under the absolutely best conditions - no Moon, good transparency. In the countryside it literally jumped at me ;D Just one of those objects that are really hard in the city and easy under a good sky (and I don't mean the Atacama desert… just a rural sky). M4 is the other one that pops to mind.

@paperbackwriter100

2 жыл бұрын

bortle 9 in the country side ?

@titobattaglia7932

2 жыл бұрын

@@paperbackwriter100 I managed to see M1 - barely - in Bortle 9, downtown Milano (a 3 million inhabitant urban area). In the countryside (Bortle 4 site) it pops out. hope it's clearer now.

I bet Jay was itching to say a Parka (1970 - 80 era) but he would have been ageing himself 🤣

You DOO-DOO? really? 😂 Thanx for the upload Jason. Will give i a go next time i have the change👍🏽👍🏽

Thank you so much for this tip!

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Your more than welcome :)

If conditions are not good enough, swing down and to the right a bit and look for the pleiades. They are seven stars all close together and even with just binoculars you can see them. I like this star group, and there is none other like it in the sky.

Very interesting video Jason... Going to exford soon. Good dark sky's there will certainly give it a go

Hi Jay, another fantastic video for those starting out! I've only ever detected the crab with everted vision, rather then properly seeing it, it's a tricky customer but you've provided some great tips! Loving the super nova animation by the way hehe :)

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris. Thank you pal much appreciated..It's a tough nut to crack this one isn't it? Indeed, averted vision definitely helps on this one (I forgot to mention that didn't I? Always manage to forget something lol.) Yes the supernova animation took me ages to input all the data..... Not really, I got it from pixabay xD

Great video jay love your channel you never fail to amaze me. Thankyou for all your hard work and determination. ❤️

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, much appreciated :)

I'm quite fortunate to live in Mid Wales, 20 minutes from a high and secluded spot. Might give this a go!

Thanks Jason, I live in a light polluted urban area, at least I will not try to see the crab nebula until I get to dark skies somewhere!

5:28 I thought you were going to say the Clap Nebula! LOL

Cool 😎 I'll be Crab Nebula and the Space Station The Crab and Pulsar ❤

Hey Jason interesting video and very nice tip for M1. I haven't tried to see this object partly due to where I live and it's not to easy to see. Next winter I'll try observe it. I always feel sad at this time of year as we are losing Orion as I just totally love photographing orion and seeing it high in the night sky. After summer I start getting happy again when it is in the morning sky. Can M1 be seen in any binoculars? Will it be easy to photograph M1? M1 is certainly an interesting object for winter and read information about it. Take care and stay safe my friend plus clear skies too!

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Bushcraft. Thank you my friend. You would have to have extremely dark skies and a tripod to stand any chance of seeing M 1 with binos even with a telescope it can be quite a challenge.. But under the right skies even a 70-80 mm telescope will show it.. It's definitely more of a photo opportunity than a visual in most cases but that doesn't mean you can't see it visually you just need the right conditions. Take care pal, clear skies :)

@glenhughes8013

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Bushcraft and astronomy! That's literally me!

@Guido_XL

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenhughes8013 Me too. I simply love Orion and can't stand losing it to this time of year. It's almost depressing to watch Orion dive beyond the western horizon so early in the evening.

@glenhughes8013

2 жыл бұрын

@@Guido_XL From a very early age I have been fascinated with Orion, and the nebula was one of the first things apart from the moon that I used my telescope for. Don't worry - The hunter will be back soon enough!

The size and location details are helpful in understanding where might be a good spot to go. Maybe a bortle level too? I had to look it up. Wow, the UK has a lot of light pollution.

🦀 "You ain't seen me. Right?"🦀 Okay, crabby... (It's the catchphrase of a shady character from 'The Fast Show'.)

Hi Jason, I'm new to Astronomy and have found you channel to be very helpful. Keep up the great work. If you are ever in New Zealand give me a yell. Cheers Rob

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rob.. Will do my friend 👍😃

Well your video explains why I have not been able to find M-1 from my backyard (Bortle 7).

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

keep trying friend you'll get to see it one day :)

M1 is a difficult one and the smallest optics I can remember getting it in is my Viking 10x42 monocular.I might try my 8x36 Vortex monocular this winter and I think it'll probably get it.

Amazing video, as usual! Thank you very much!!! As a beginner, I would appreciate to find a Messier catalog containing, besides position in the sky, all the information needed for viewing, like: Bortle scale, minimal aperture, eyepiece size, filter, etc. Can you recommend one?

I've probably got next to no chance of seeing the Crab nebula from where I live under Bortle 7 skies, but I am lucky enough to live within a relatively reasonable drive to the Northumbrian dark sky site in Kielder. I hope to have aquired a 127mm Maksutov scope by then, as I will be camping and need a grab and go scope rather than my 150mm newt. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience for those of us who are not so familiar with astronomy in a way that is understandable and easy to assimilate.

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Your more than welcome my friend.. Camping is something I'm too planing to do later in the year, I'm hoping to make a few video on camping astronomy.. Should be fun. :)

Hi Jason. Great video again. I have been trying to find the crab nebula for the past two years but I still haven’t seen it haha. I have bortle six skies and a 8 inch dobson but even though I was right on the spot in my eyepiece, I just couldn’t see it. In a few months I want to buy a 12” dobson. Maybe i get to see it with that. 😊

Last time I saw it was in my 8 inch sc at a bark site and I was surprised at how bright it was there.

Have already tried to spot M1, but no chance from my light polluted area... Hope others have more luck. Live long and prosper 🖖

Interesting Video Jason. A Very Practical and Informative video to Learn About Finding The Crab nebula. I cant See M1 through my 5 inch Telescope from my Bortle 8 skies. Its Unfortunate that We Don't have any Dark Sights Near where We Live!!

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Avanteesh. Thank you my friend. In the UK they are now starting to install downward pointing L.E.D street lighting and it's definitely improving the sky's a little..But It would still be nice if there was a total lights out every night for us night owls :)

Thanks for the reminder about the Crab 🦀 Nebula Jason. It’s a target i haven’t thought about for a long time (probably due to it’s difficulty). I’ll give it a go on the next new moon and use a good quality light pollution filter. (Bortle 5). Fingers crossed 🤞

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck my friend :)

Theres a street light right in front of my front yard and lots of wildlife in my back yard and about 10 minutes from downtown of my metropolitan area

Hey Jason, thanks so much for this very informative video! I hope you could also do a video on how to find the rosette nebula? Anyways i hope you have a nice day :)

@titobattaglia7932

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ton, the Rosette is easy to find due to the very nice Satellite Cluster in the middle of it, but seeing it is another matter. In my limited experience, it's quite a bit harder than M1 and it really requires a rural sky for you to see the brighter sections of the Nebula.

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ton.. Your more than welcome.. I will be doing a lot more on things to find so I'm sure the rosette will be included at some point. :)

At the time of writing this (autumn 2022) the crab nebula is right next to Mars (2 degree difference in az and .30 degree difference in alt)

Thanks!

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🙂

Observed the crab nebula last night at a bortle 2 with a 6 inch reflector. Even in very dark skies this target was so incredibly faint. It was hard to make out any detail or shape to be honest, just looked like a round wisp or smudge

@smalloptics753

Жыл бұрын

well done my friend, it is a challenge but I think that's why it's all the more rewarding when you do find it...

I can get a faint patch in bortel 6 urban/suburban transistion in both my 5' scopes. Took my scope to a East Anglian costal area once (bortel 3) and it was easy then...light pollution is a real killer

I know what you mean about it being hard to see. I have seen M1 only once and that was in Bortle 8 skies. I had been out for a while so I was dark adapted. I was using 6 inch F5 newtonian. It was so incredibly faint I could hardly believe I was seeing it. I mean it was FAINT! I moved the scope from side to side and could make out some sort of shape to it. I was using high power if I remember correctly, the image was rather large in the eyepiece.

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... sounds sore..

May I ask what Planetarium software you're using?.... TIA.

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Hello R Pitaluga. It's Stellarium +

I've been seeing taurus for a while now and had no idea this was a target at all!!! How does this target fair at bortle 6 LP?

@smalloptics753

Жыл бұрын

Hello Ridley, under those conditions you may need to use the averted vision method which is where you don't look directly at the centre of the eyepiece but instead, to one side so you are looking at the centre with the corner of your eye so to speak. This method is sometimes the only way to see some of the dimmer DSO's in small aperture telescopes (4/6") ... Don't give up if you can't see it it may well be just the light pollution and not your telescopes capabilities, at least you now know where to look when the conditions are better suited and I'm sure you will have success then.. Happy hunting friend :-)

Found about 50 of messier objects. Took me five timesto find this devil. You would think number one would be obvious. Was it brighter when Messier found it?

@smalloptics753

8 ай бұрын

Hello there. Yes the night sky would have looked a lot different in Messiars days because there was little to no light pollution.

I saw it a week ago

In a 80mm scope it's a bit of challenge but I have done it. Now if I had real dark location!

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Great job my friend :)

I live in bortle 8, no hopes to find it...

@titobattaglia7932

2 жыл бұрын

You do have hopes provided you arm yourself with lots of patience, prepare carefully with charts so you know where to look at in your FoV, have a good grasp of averted vision, and choose the right night. I managed it from my balcony in Milano (Bortle 9) and it was a thrill just to barely locate it with averted vision. From our polluted skies, there are plenty of bright DSOs that are a pleasure to watch even under ordinary conditions (take a peek at M94 if you want to see a galaxy from the city; M104, M81… all great). And there are quite a few that are out of reach no matter what (M101 is a good example I think). M1, M51, M63… these are at the limit from the city: you really have to be extra picky about conditions (no Moon, exceptionally good transparency) and you need aperture (I did it with a 6* Newtonian).

@smalloptics753

2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck friend I sure you will get to see it at some point when the conditions allow it.

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