How to filter on a motorcycle. (Motorcycle riding tips from a qualified advanced UK instructor)

How to filter through traffic on a motorcycle.
On the way back from these guys passing their tests I decided to do a lesson on lane splitting or filtering.
The basic rule regarding zig zags is you cannot park on them, approaching the crossing you cannot pass the foremost part of the vehicle nearest to the crossing that has stopped for the purpose of letting pedestrians cross or the vehicle closest to the crossing that is moving.
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  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en5 жыл бұрын

    It's always lovely how you help peoples' confidence just talking to them nice and calm like you're just a bunch of friends out for a ride. Nice one.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy. I love what I do and we have a good laugh at Roadcraft. ☺

  • @owlteachereducation

    @owlteachereducation

    3 ай бұрын

    Nicely done. Instilling confidence, reiterating use of the back brake at slow speeds and recognising good practice are all parts of being a great trainer.

  • @Motortriker
    @Motortriker5 жыл бұрын

    I remember when I took my Mod2 test; returning to the test centre we came upon heavy morning rush hour traffic. I started shoulder check to start filtering. The examiner told me to let him through first. he led the filtering. On arrival at the test centre (when telling me I'd passed without any minors) he told me he'd jumped in there in case I'd done something stupid to fail my test hahaha. Good fella.

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice day for a riding test then.

  • @Motortriker

    @Motortriker

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wobblysauce Did I mention it was raining too? 😳

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Same for my test, but we didn't do any road sections... all in basically a carpark... passed and it was have at it.

  • @brucieg69

    @brucieg69

    5 жыл бұрын

    There are some decent examiners out there. I didn’t stop completely at a stop sign on my test but when we got back he just gave me a rollocking about it and passed me with just a couple of minors. 😬

  • @-john-flynn

    @-john-flynn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice one.....filtering is not expected on the test but it is allowed (if done properly) so I reckon the examiner was spot on...why ruin a good pass when you could actually just have a bit of training.

  • @Billyg215
    @Billyg2155 жыл бұрын

    TOTALLY agree with the trainer ALWAYS filter slowly. Been a biker for over 40 years and had a few arguments with other bikers about this. Its ALL about getting from A to B safely.

  • @sirraident

    @sirraident

    5 жыл бұрын

    absolutely

  • @DanielMircea

    @DanielMircea

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. A real motorcyclist gets home safe.

  • @lukey3507

    @lukey3507

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also, loud pipes. All of my bikes had and will have loud pipes. The first bike I had without a decent pipe when I was a 16 year old spotty teenager on a moped, I had so many close calls. When I got my 2 stroke 125 and put a decent loud pipe on it, I very rarely had issues. Only idiots that shouldn't drive were a hazard.

  • @SeanieVoiceOver

    @SeanieVoiceOver

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lukey3507 Don't bet on them hearing you coming from loud pipes, they're in their cosy metal box with aircon blowing and music pumping, the noise from your pipes isn't in front of you, it's behind you

  • @osprey5611

    @osprey5611

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SeanieVoiceOver nevermind hearing some drivers dont even realise i exist like Iam invisible.

  • @geoffclements269
    @geoffclements2695 жыл бұрын

    Filtering is a twice daily activity for me on my commute. Most drivers don't know you're there until you pass them (in my opinion), some move over for you and sometimes it's quite comical how far they get over but I'm always grateful and fewer still do their best to get in your way; when this happens they always seem to forget that if they're in your way on one side then there's a big gap on the other and guess which way I'm going to go!

  • @ashleyreynolds6604

    @ashleyreynolds6604

    5 жыл бұрын

    I actually wish they'd stay put instead of becoming unpredictable or erratic. We'll sort ourselves out :-)

  • @baccas66
    @baccas665 жыл бұрын

    Full of admiration. Don't think I'd remain as calm, or as unflappable as Russ. Pity there aren't more instructors like you!

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    If there were I wouldn't be so popular so thanks to the impatient instructors. 😂

  • @harshavytla9006
    @harshavytla900615 күн бұрын

    In Australia they don't allow Learners to filter. My motorcycle instructor never taught us how to filter. I've been doing it for years without proper training (never caused any problems, but having an instructor like this would have helped me so much!) Thanks for this video Sir

  • @earlebacciochi9796
    @earlebacciochi97965 жыл бұрын

    Great instructions👍 . Also I always stop filtering a few cars back from a pinch point, junction/roundabouts etc.

  • @madcockney

    @madcockney

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Travis bickle Whether you're a car driver or a rider people do stupid things at roundabouts so I also would not filter right up to the roundabout. A similar situation can occur at traffic lights and some drivers see it as a competition between them and the bike.

  • @lukey3507

    @lukey3507

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Travis bickle On a round about, I get behind the first car on the round about. And block the second cars path so they can't under cut me and try racing me off the line. You must do that with zig-zag crossings or it's a matter of time until a copper give you some points.

  • @kazpearson7358
    @kazpearson73585 жыл бұрын

    I’m not surprised that was good filtering, their being taught by the best ☺️😘

  • @nastyevilninja
    @nastyevilninja5 жыл бұрын

    Good call with the zig-zags! I only found that out a few years back after I got Told Off by Police I overtook on the zig-zags - it was when I was researching what I'd done wrong that I found out I actually hadn't done anything wrong. It also told me that the Police aren't always experts at the more intricate aspects of traffic law...

  • @Imreadingthisaloud
    @Imreadingthisaloud5 жыл бұрын

    Top stuff Russ. Subscribed when I was still learning. Many Thousands of miles and some European trips later it’s nice to see you’re still passing on the knowledge. Ride safe, never stop learning folks!

  • @jonchilds1637
    @jonchilds1637 Жыл бұрын

    Oh the memories...! About 30 years ago. coming out of town to the lights at Castle Marina when the silver Audi decided he'd waited too long and yanked it round, out of the queue just as I came up on his rear! Turned his door inside out, collected three broken ribs from his rain gutter and had to let go. Supermanned over his roof, down the bonnet and created a crumpled heap outside the (then Lucas) place opposite. "Are you alright mate...." Vorsprung Durch F..kwit!!!!!!!

  • @clanmac66
    @clanmac665 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know that about zigzag lines! It's the only time I don't filter and not crossing solid white lines of course.

  • @ashleyreynolds6604

    @ashleyreynolds6604

    5 жыл бұрын

    In a filtering scenario you can cross a solid white line if it's the line nearest you, it's safe to do so and the traffic you're passing is stationary.

  • @Rebecka_J

    @Rebecka_J

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ashleyreynolds6604 Case law has established that a vehicle with the engine running is still regarded as being driven. A stationary vehicle for the purposes of legislation is not based on whether it is moving but whether it is under the control of a driver. That is the reason why using a mobile phone with your hands is still an offence in a queue of traffic even if you turn off the engine, such as at a level crossing. Besides which, the law states you can can only cross a solid line to pass stationary traffic "if necessary to do so" (Regulation 26 of TSRGD 2002). The point of the exception is situations such as a broken down vehicle, which would effectively close the road if you could not cross the line. And so where you can also fully return into the correct lane immediately after the obstruction, unlike where you have a queue of traffic ahead you need to pass. If filtering over a solid line you will not be able to convince a police officer or a judge that it was necessary to do so instead of simply waiting for traffic to resume moving like everyone else. You may be unlucky to be stopped doing it, but it is strictly illegal. It does not even fall to the usual test of "what would a competent driver do," the law is explicit in this area so there is no defence. And it is also worth noting that legally you have to keep the offside of the vehicle inside the solid line, which means the whole of the bike. So even if your wheels are inside the line, you are technically breaking the law if you bars are over it.

  • @ashleyreynolds6604

    @ashleyreynolds6604

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Rebecka_J thanks for the info. The HC is somewhat less detailed in it's explanation.

  • @Penndennis
    @Penndennis2 жыл бұрын

    You are so supportive towards your students - huge respect to you Man! And thank you for making this vid available for others; as a new rider, it's very useful. Cheers!

  • @stevencurtis-rich4178
    @stevencurtis-rich41785 жыл бұрын

    Really good advice on speed, rear brake and watching out for cars drifting/changing lanes and pedestrians diving through slow/stationary traffic.

  • @thfreakinacage
    @thfreakinacage2 жыл бұрын

    I love that you actually did it on these learners lessons. I was taught the theory and safety of it, but didn't encounter traffic during my lessons, so didn't really get a proper chance to practice until I had already passed my test.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @davidragnoli5162
    @davidragnoli51622 жыл бұрын

    I passed years ago with these guys, but this instructor is excellent. well done.

  • @BB-gi7of
    @BB-gi7of5 жыл бұрын

    Really good clear instruction - confidence inspiring to the new padawins!

  • @gm16v149
    @gm16v1495 жыл бұрын

    Here in Australia learner motorcycle riders aren’t allowed to filter, only when they have passed their test is it legal. Still, we’ve got fairly liberal laws about what you can ride as a learner. Most states have a list of learner approved motorcycles (LAMs), it all depends on power to weight ratio, you can even ride a lower power restricted 650. It’s a lot different to when I was a L plater in England in the 1960s, I rode a 650 Triumph T110 and a Norton 650SS as soon as I passed my test at 16! The test was pretty simple as well.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love hearing about different bike laws around the world. Thanks

  • @martinowl
    @martinowl5 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff, clear ,calm & precise instructions on a topic many bikers dread.

  • @lastdimestudios
    @lastdimestudios5 жыл бұрын

    I was just mesmerised by the triumphs digital display. Awesome. Good demo too.

  • @themin6153
    @themin61535 жыл бұрын

    Well done ,again ! Great instructional vid for all . Happened to have to negotiate the Barford(?) tunnel on a HD Softail last year with no hassle , shout out to those 4 wheelers who made space !

  • @dertyberty
    @dertyberty11 ай бұрын

    Well done I enjoyed the lesson. I wasn't taught any splitting doing my full licence training jan23. But now I am doing it just like in your vid very satisfying feeling.

  • @johndoughnut8617
    @johndoughnut86172 жыл бұрын

    You seem like a great instructor plenty of positive compliments to boost the trainees confidence 👌🏻

  • @richd9658
    @richd96585 жыл бұрын

    Great video, and spot on about zig zags... amazing how many people - bikers included - who don’t fully understand that particular rule.

  • @chr15b
    @chr15b5 жыл бұрын

    Great tips thanks for sharing. Not done much filtering since I passed my MOD2 a month ago.

  • @richardshilling2958
    @richardshilling29585 жыл бұрын

    Great clip. I think it must be one of hardest things to teach. You can mention the dangers but it's all about time on the seat learning how traffic flows. Plus always that one knob who opens there door. Great clip 😊

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    And know the bike... some have fixed mirrors the width of the bike and other can wiggle with Bar mirrors.

  • @richardshilling2958

    @richardshilling2958

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wobblysauce Very true. Plus that one ar!! Hole that is determined he's not letting any bikes through. All good fun.

  • @mightybeanstick9872

    @mightybeanstick9872

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@richardshilling2958 Absolutely! There is a traffic offence of wilful obstruction, and deliberately moving your vehicle to obstruct another would probably come under that definition. But getting the police to take any action...? Not much chance, I'd say, especially if no collision occured.

  • @DaveBarnes1

    @DaveBarnes1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mightybeanstick9872 oh, I don't know. I reported someone who blocked my car from overtaking 800m from some roadworks on a motorway. He just pulled out to block the outside lane. The police turned up at his work to give him a talking too....

  • @Chutzpah84
    @Chutzpah845 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff from them. I've always found this sort of slow riding easier than the mod 1 exercises! Real moving gaps to make real time decisions about vs even gaps between cones. And remember everyone - gaps are traps and always be inquisitive about why it is there!

  • @TheVarnster
    @TheVarnster9 ай бұрын

    I wish I had an instructor this pleasant when I did my CBT recently, would have filled me with far more confidence once I started riding solo

  • @jamesnickel4748
    @jamesnickel47484 жыл бұрын

    Nice little pointers on filtering safely! Thanks!

  • @RevBombUK
    @RevBombUK5 жыл бұрын

    Very impressed been riding for over 40 years and absolutely perfect, Just the way it should be done great instruction and would highly reccomend you if you lived local. Safe riding and keep it shiny side up

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for your praise buddy. Ride safe. ☺

  • @Nooziterp1
    @Nooziterp111 ай бұрын

    One potential danger not mentioned is a driver deliberately blocking you off because they think filtering is illegal and they are 'doing their bit'. Used to happen occasionally when I used to ride.

  • @TheDireLulu

    @TheDireLulu

    Ай бұрын

    I’m just getting into riding (in California, US, where it is legal), is there any tips you have for me in the case of sudden cutting off? Like cut clutch rear brake or something?

  • @Nooziterp1

    @Nooziterp1

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheDireLulu It is legal here in the UK too. Despite some drivers being unaware of it. Sadly there isn't much you can do except keep your eyes peeled and watch for drivers moving out, and braking if necessary. They are unlikely to do it suddenly because they risk a collision and getting their paintwork scratched LOL.

  • @alang1825
    @alang18253 жыл бұрын

    Nice encouragement for the new riders 👍

  • @yellownev
    @yellownev Жыл бұрын

    Found the zig zag instruction - spot on thanks !

  • @keithwaite5026
    @keithwaite50265 жыл бұрын

    Been riding 44 years, best filtering vid I've seen at the right speeds, I know you were covering them with great advice, but one thing you forgot to warn them about is other motorcycles filtering , some motorcyclist filter at crazy speeds, nearly got taken out by another motorcyclist a few years ago, so now I check for them a long way back and keep checking with an escape plan in mind just for this situation.👊🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍👍

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great comment. Thanks

  • @keithwaite5026

    @keithwaite5026

    5 жыл бұрын

    Roadcraft Nottingham thanks for reply, just been watching your other vids, subbed.👍

  • @keithwaite5026

    @keithwaite5026

    5 жыл бұрын

    Roadcraft Nottingham ❤️

  • @mightybeanstick9872
    @mightybeanstick98725 жыл бұрын

    Can someone please tell Royal Jordanian (and several other UK motovloggers) about the zig-zag law? They don't seem to know (or maybe don't care) about it.

  • @nokneedownian8521
    @nokneedownian85215 жыл бұрын

    Great job great controls and awareness

  • @CaptainCrankyMotovlogger
    @CaptainCrankyMotovlogger5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent stuff as always. Even though this is how I do filter, always learn something. Must say your pupils did well, that's a stressful situation for a learner. Well done mate.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks capitan. ☺

  • @schwartz4074
    @schwartz40745 жыл бұрын

    Just love these videos ❤️

  • @Certago
    @Certago5 жыл бұрын

    Been a while since your last upload, thanks for doing them!

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's only been 2 weeks and I'm trying not to bore you all. ☺

  • @rudebwoy8
    @rudebwoy85 жыл бұрын

    Well done lads!

  • @DevReaper
    @DevReaper2 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful video, I'm planning on moving to the UK to join my Fiancé. I've been riding for over a year now but I have never been in a place where filtering was legal.

  • @gsxrjeff
    @gsxrjeff Жыл бұрын

    glad your teaching them to filter mate

  • @AlexDjalo
    @AlexDjalo5 жыл бұрын

    Yep learnt this the hard way the other day filtering at around 20 then a car decided to pull out almost hit him but luckily my instructor taught me how to stay calm and to slowly lift my rear brake slightly so I dont skid when doing a emergency stop

  • @I_Mark_Mills
    @I_Mark_Mills3 жыл бұрын

    You're a really good instructor!

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. ☺

  • @RicardoTheCraneOperator
    @RicardoTheCraneOperator2 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @Plumbermark
    @Plumbermark2 жыл бұрын

    very informative..thank you for taking the time

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @NOTAFULLUN
    @NOTAFULLUN5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. I wish someone had taught me this.

  • @benjamincs1
    @benjamincs15 жыл бұрын

    Wish I'd had you as my instructor!

  • @jhstony
    @jhstony5 жыл бұрын

    Lovely calming voice you have ..........ahhhhhhh Smooth

  • @lord8139
    @lord81393 жыл бұрын

    Top instructor

  • @madcockney
    @madcockney5 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done with some good advise. The point about cars moving over, if they see you is true but you do get the occasional driver that is intent on stopping you passing them and you have to be ready for that. I wish more instructors would do this and not leave it up to the rider to learn on their own after passing the test. (Bit like counter steering not being allowed to be taught. Though we all do it subconsciously when you know about it then it can be used to assist the rider when required.) You are more likely to do it, in this instance filtering, correctly under instruction and when you first do it there is likely to be a level of stress.

  • @MrMannakin
    @MrMannakin5 жыл бұрын

    The main reason I started riding!

  • @ronkierstead
    @ronkierstead3 жыл бұрын

    I wish we were allowed to do this in Canada. Thanks for sharing.

  • @MrChrissammons
    @MrChrissammons5 жыл бұрын

    Speed when filtering. I was taught if you cant stop in a car length you are going to fast. That lesson has saved me a few times especially when a car door has suddenly opened.

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    Always be aware.

  • @MotoRidesAustralia
    @MotoRidesAustralia5 жыл бұрын

    Nice one mate, funny how the same challenges appear everywhere.

  • @wobblysauce
    @wobblysauce5 жыл бұрын

    How great are coms, when used in the right way...

  • @KingLies
    @KingLies5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Russ, glad to see you teaching this stuff! With regards to filtering whilst traffic is moving - I find it safe to filter through when cars are adjacent to each other. Car drivers aren't the best at the noticing bikes but they seem to do pretty well noticing each other, so if I'm in-between I always feel safe that they aren't going to change lanes suddenly. I am assuming at 1:17 you mean that you can filter all the way up to the car that is stopped at the lights, is that correct? If so, that's a new one to me! I just took those zigzags to mean that you shouldn't filter because there's a risk of some sort. In this case - the crossing.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    The highway code isn't too clear but I've explained the law in the description. Thanks for your comment buddy. Russ

  • @jaywhitney789
    @jaywhitney7894 жыл бұрын

    Nice and calm i am impressed 😎😎🏍

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. ☺

  • @Thomo-ke8bz
    @Thomo-ke8bz5 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully done there, shame all riders don’t practice the same calm discipline manoeuvres as you.

  • @ChrisWeadick
    @ChrisWeadick5 жыл бұрын

    nice to see you doing controlled filtering vs the guys doing it at 80-100mph on highways

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Yes, that's what gives riders a bad name

  • @SeanieVoiceOver
    @SeanieVoiceOver5 жыл бұрын

    Probably not such an issue in Nottingham but in london 19 out of 20 cars are happy to make room for a filtering biker but one in 80 will deliberately try to block your progress, I put this down to 3 things,1, jealousy, they're stuck in traffic and they're jealous of you, 2, malice, they're angry and they simply hate bikers, 3, ignorance, I've had several (usually middle aged women) wind their windows down and scream something about "Pushing in" they simply don't know what filtering is and apply rules from a queue at the dole office

  • @SeanieVoiceOver

    @SeanieVoiceOver

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Badger0fDeath LOL Standard!

  • @steve24822
    @steve248225 жыл бұрын

    I ride past motorcyclists all the time sat in queues of traffic. It's not normally taught for standard tests so brilliant stuff.

  • @Quickblood1

    @Quickblood1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's me I only filter when I'm in a hurry or not really making any progress. That being said if another motorcycle passes me then usually that spurs me on to follow.

  • @gorillaau

    @gorillaau

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Quickblood1 Hehe. that's what got me filtering for the first time... another motorcyclist clearing the way.

  • @Alan-xy2vb

    @Alan-xy2vb

    5 жыл бұрын

    Usual for me to. Not so much that I can't but I live in a rural area and don't get to the city that often. The other reason is giving the left hand a rest from all the gear changes which I'm no longer used to in stop/start traffic. On our Honda STs we have to make sure the mirrors can fit through as they are same height as car mirrors.

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am the same... That is a nice way to do it, someone is doing the work, but be aware some vehicle move back like a wave in water.

  • @kjgames650
    @kjgames6504 жыл бұрын

    Bloddy good instructor that's why safe man on a motorcycle

  • @AndrewFosterSheff69
    @AndrewFosterSheff695 жыл бұрын

    I'm a rider and I didn't know that. I always hung back on the entirety of the zig-zags.

  • @geraldturner9297
    @geraldturner9297Ай бұрын

    I'm not a fan of filtering , i passed my MOD2 back in Jan '24. But will do it, if it means i can keep moving, far safer than being stationary. It's something not really encouranged at CBT and learner stage. On the ride back home, my instructor said we would be filteering as traffic was heavy, he asked if i was ok with that, he lead,, but did say make your own decisions to go for gaps or not, ride your own ride, it was a little unerving, i could see in my mirrors a 'battenburg' liveyed bike coming through , i thought it was Police, made room for them .......turns out it eas my examiner who passed me not15 mins earlier, imagine doing something bad ! He was a top bloke, i went wrong a few times of router, but, he passed me still, saying its how I ride not where I rode, my abilty ,not getting the route wrong.

  • @lucsalander
    @lucsalander5 жыл бұрын

    great lads there

  • @adamscrivner30
    @adamscrivner302 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @mike309saa
    @mike309saa4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Russ, love watching your vids they're always entertaining, informative and have helped me become the rider I am to today. Covered more than 100,000 miles in the 7 years I've been riding and still surviving (touch wood). I'm curious though what you'd do in regards to filtering on solid white lines. I've not done it myself but I've seen other bikers do it. On one hand the highway code states you must not cross a solid white line however it also states that you can cross it if passing a vehicle travelling less than 10 mph if I recall correctly and for turning right into a drive way for example. So is filtering on solid white lines past stationary traffic legal?

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good question. The 10mph rule only applies to bicycles, horses or road maintenance vehicles. If the traffic is stationary it could be argued that you're allowed then but there's disagreements whether stationary means parked and/or stopped traffic. Highway code rule 129

  • @mike309saa

    @mike309saa

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham So best bet is to not filter at all on solid white lines?

  • @AnthonyHiggins84
    @AnthonyHiggins84 Жыл бұрын

    "ill thanks them dont you worry about that" lol that sounded like a threat lmfao nice vids very helpful

  • @evildeed90s
    @evildeed90s Жыл бұрын

    easy in front of an instructor remember my old 125 from 6 years ago i didnt stall at all and wasnt even nervous whiles doing it i was filtering riding with no problems. it was when i was finnaly on my own riding a week later i started stalling it everywhere getting so nervous to ride it i would never filter at all after a while my confidence came i met other bikers i started riding with them i never forgot what one of them old school bikers told me its no such thing as a late biker because we get there safely not quickly. i ride 900cc now and make sure if people cant see me they will hear me.

  • @750triton
    @750triton5 ай бұрын

    The efforts some car drivers go to, to get one car ahead, I look at filtering as helping out. One less vehicle in the queue 😁

  • @peterhession1668
    @peterhession16685 жыл бұрын

    Regarding Zig Zags. I was recently marked down on my Rospa test because I pulled up alongside a bus that was stopped at a zig zag controlled crossing on a red light. I knew I could not pass the bus - and I didn't. I waited for the bus to pull off and performed the over take once outside the zig zags. I was subsequently informed that once my tyre passed the rear bumper of the bus it was classed as "an overtake". To be honest I didn't argue the point but it was the difference between a gold and silver. Great video as usual by the way.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's unfair, there's a big difference between pass and pull alongside. The rule is there so pedestrians don't get hit, how can that happen when you're just next to the vehicle. Jeez! I'm promoting you to gold! 😂

  • @peterhession1668

    @peterhession1668

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham Yes I thought so too. I have put in for a re-test immediately ;-). Next stop tutor training but I do need to iron this one out with ROSPA

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@peterhession1668 good luck with that, there's always in-fighting about stuff like that which is why I don't join clubs. As them where in legislation it defines passing as sitting next to. ☺

  • @Chutzpah84

    @Chutzpah84

    5 жыл бұрын

    Considering the legislation states not "to pass ahead of the foremost part" I'd agree that that was an incorrect understanding of the legislation.

  • @peterhession1668

    @peterhession1668

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Chutzpah84 thanks guys

  • @Thunderous71
    @Thunderous715 жыл бұрын

    Brings back memories, dry mouth the first time.

  • @mazakram3128
    @mazakram31285 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @richardgiles2484
    @richardgiles24842 жыл бұрын

    Really good video. The speed I've seen some filtering is way to fast and will soon be a doner

  • @GrantW219
    @GrantW2193 жыл бұрын

    Could you do another filtering video with more updated detail, Laws, etc? I didn't know you can't go in front of the leading vehicle when zigzags are about. Thanks for the video

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's up to date

  • @PAUL-yv2kk
    @PAUL-yv2kk3 жыл бұрын

    What an excellent tutorial, you have a great approach. I am keen to understand the reason for avoiding the front brake when filtering. What's behind that ? Keep up the great work 👍

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    Usually the ultra low speeds don't really warrant it. I may have said that just before a total stop, unless you can give me a time code?

  • @PAUL-yv2kk

    @PAUL-yv2kk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham Thanks, you mentioned it a couple of times in the clip but not sure exactly what times. I just wanted to check there wasn't a reason to use the rear instead of the front, but it sounds like that's not the case...just low speed / no need. Great service you give to the bike community in Notts...well done 👏

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PAUL-yv2kk Thanks Paul. ☺

  • @PanRider939
    @PanRider939Ай бұрын

    Watch their/them/they front wheels. You’ll get indication if they are going to block or change lanes.

  • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
    @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse5 жыл бұрын

    Two of the biggest hazards I find when filtering are pedestrians who don't look before crossing , even diving between the traffic many feet from an official pedestrian crossing and the large wing mirrors on vans and wagons which stick out right across the lane. You certainly need to keep your head on a swivel when filtering safely.BTW do you still ride the Pan or did it get traded in?

  • @Quickblood1

    @Quickblood1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd say the biggest hazards are cyclists and other motorcyclists especially couriers or the menace that is food delivery drivers.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Still got the pan. Needs a battery then I'll take it for a play but it's basically retired now. 😔

  • @madeleinegillett5892
    @madeleinegillett58925 жыл бұрын

    I'm doing my advance riding qualification with IAM and any advice is good for my riding. These videos are brilliant for picking up little tips

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope you passed. ☺

  • @madeleinegillett5892

    @madeleinegillett5892

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham passed my advanced and my A licence

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, well done. ☺

  • @michaelggriffiths
    @michaelggriffiths5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! In London I filter all the time. On ZigZags it is my understanding that you cannot overtake the lead vehicle, but after you gone over the crossing (but still on ZigZags) you CAN overtake. Am I correct or in error? I'm not a KZread know-it-all, I genuinely look to improve my skills. Thanks for the continued great content.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    The rule regarding zig zags is you cannot pass the vehicle nearest to the crossing that has stopped for the purpose of letting pedestrians cross or the vehicle closest to the crossing that is moving.

  • @nastyevilninja

    @nastyevilninja

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is actually no restriction to overtaking as soon as you are on the crossing itself! People forget the whole purpose of that rule, and that is to stop you overtaking a car that has stopped for a pedestrian that you can't see. Sometimes the reasoning for these rules gets lost because everyone gets pedantic.

  • @carllewis1691
    @carllewis16914 жыл бұрын

    I recently purchased Cosmo Moto @t - smart brake light that affixes to your helmet and detects when you are decelerating - braking or engine braking to light up and inform other road users of your presence and that you are slowing down. It also can be set up to emit a continuous light similar to that of the rear light on your motorbike whilst shining brighter if you are decelerating in addition it can be set up as a strobe/ continuous warning light as well. Have you thought about reviewing this as I believe that this is an invaluable safety aid in raising your visibility on the road at an affordable price for all motorcyclists. Please let me know your views.

  • @garryrooney9636
    @garryrooney96362 жыл бұрын

    ROSPA Aug ‘21 magazine - Read a good article for NOT using hazard lights when filtering as it’s not legal. I however DO use my right indicator whilst filtering, my logic is that an “Amber flashing light” might help distinguish me from the sea of white lights in a car side mirror. Two questions: 1) is this legal / correct use of right indicator? 2) Is this a benefit to other road users? Assume that I am also checking people’s hands on steering wheel & direction of front tires whilst filtering - Thx in advance for your correspondence

  • @oxide_fx
    @oxide_fx5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic lesson! As i did my test in a small city there was no need to filter during lessons or the test. All the information is so contradictory on it online. Is it equally acceptable to filter on the left of cars too between parked cars and moving traffic etc.? I don't like gutter running as its more dangerous, but in Glasgow there's technically two lanes almost everywhere, except one lane is usually used up by cars parking at the side of the road. Also, is the rule of not passing the lead car involve junctions with lights too, or are we allowed to go right up to the front there? And if the lead car has left enough gap at the front of a crossing are we allowed to filter past them in that case? Are you allow to filter beside a solid white line if there's enough space so that you don't cross it? It's so hard to know if what you're doing is right or wrong... I just try to do it in a safe, controlled manner.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    The lead car rule is only zig zags. You're legally allowed either side of the car but need to be extra careful. As long as any part of the bike including the handlebars doesn't go over the solid line it's OK too

  • @oxide_fx

    @oxide_fx

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham Thank you!

  • @ianshannon326
    @ianshannon3265 жыл бұрын

    Great clip even as a daily commuter and filtering daily spot on with the commentary and tips there. Out of curiosity though, is filtering not classed as an "advanced" skill and not recommended for novice riders or learners? Just a thought....

  • @Coldfin9er

    @Coldfin9er

    5 жыл бұрын

    IMO, no - shouldn't be classified as 'advanced' as you call it. It's a part of everyday riding that all riders should be doing and certainly being instructed on when learning.

  • @miguelbinha
    @miguelbinha4 жыл бұрын

    Hello! Do you advise always wearing high-vis vests? Thank you for your teaching!

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    4 жыл бұрын

    We have to wear one whilst training but I don't for personal riding. Do some research into how effective hi viz is on motorcycles. ☺

  • @miguelbinha

    @miguelbinha

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham I will! Thank you!

  • @gorillaau
    @gorillaau5 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow.. L plates riders can filter in the UK? As an Australian, my mind is blown as we can't. Edit: We can when we get onto P plates or probationary license. But no instruction regarding when you are safe to do so and when you should not.

  • @desantos1234

    @desantos1234

    5 жыл бұрын

    Essentially anyone on two wheels can filter. Generally, if theres a gap, you can probably go through it

  • @wobblysauce

    @wobblysauce

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just part of the rules. When it was a grey area a number where wannabe Gixxer riders and got into accidents.

  • @1ninjatiger

    @1ninjatiger

    5 жыл бұрын

    wobbly sauce when was UK filtering ever a grey area?

  • @mpw0354

    @mpw0354

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@1ninjatiger Before 2006 it was a grey area. The history is explained in this article: www.motorbikestoday.com/news/Articles/filtering_law.htm

  • @harrip01

    @harrip01

    5 жыл бұрын

    In NSW, Australia you are only allowed to lane filter if you are a fully-licensed motorcyclist, NOT on L or P plates.

  • @tristramgordon8252
    @tristramgordon82525 жыл бұрын

    Not nowadays, but back in the day, drivers emptying their ashtrays out of the window on passing motorcyclists!

  • @playtime.5526

    @playtime.5526

    5 жыл бұрын

    tristram gordon The old days, here is your L plates now go teach yourself.

  • @user-rf9me7xm1w

    @user-rf9me7xm1w

    4 жыл бұрын

    The old days, twice around the block and you've passed whoopee !

  • @motocomiot

    @motocomiot

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-rf9me7xm1w I took my bike test in Wallington (South south London) the day after my 17th birthday in 1981 - just the one test then...the test centre was in the middle of a square with access to two sides - I went round one way with the examiner sprinting from one side to the other to see me at each corner then the other way and he held up his hand for an emergency stop. I passed and I’m still biking 40 years later.

  • @user-rf9me7xm1w

    @user-rf9me7xm1w

    3 жыл бұрын

    Much the same as my test then Martin, the only difference being that my test was taken in 1966 ! and I still enjoy riding very much. (Triumph Street twin).

  • @onefootinthegravy3117
    @onefootinthegravy31175 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, I've never heard that rule about the zig zag lines before. Out of curiosity where did you get that rule from? There is very little about filtering in the high way code.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    The. Gov website has the highway code laws in it but takes some looking for. Try Googling UK traffic laws etc. There'll be plenty of info on the net

  • @onefootinthegravy3117

    @onefootinthegravy3117

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham WOW that took some finding! It's in the 'The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016, SCHEDULE 14, PART 1, Paragraph 15 (1). And if I hadn't know what it meant before hand, I wouldn't have had a clue what it was on about from reading it. I wish the government would produce some clearer guidelines on what is and isn't legal for bikes. I commute and filter everyday. And whilst I try and be safe i'm sure there must be other laws that I am potentially breaking (unknowingly).

  • @specialandroid1603
    @specialandroid1603 Жыл бұрын

    So long as you don't do something unexpected and keep your speed down (with full observation and anticipation) then the risks will be low (but not absent).

  • @mikeroberts
    @mikeroberts5 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Liked the comment on zigzags. How much detail of that situation do you teach them? How would it be viewed "On test"? Obliviously covered elsewhere with them, but how do you get them to try and ride clutch out (where possible) rather than using the slow manoeuvres technique of slipping the clutch?

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    We don't recommend filtering on test unless stuck and the examiner asks if you're comfy with it. I always teach "cover" the clutch, always having fingers there in case it's needed but not to always slip it.

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'll always explain zig zags but not so much detail whilst riding in case they get distracted

  • @mikeroberts

    @mikeroberts

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RoadcraftNottingham Thx.

  • @oriordan51
    @oriordan515 жыл бұрын

    good video has always. total agreed with everything. one l always look out for people throwing lit cigarettes out of their window or drink

  • @fabiosartorio4972
    @fabiosartorio49725 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Brazil! What are the zig-zag lines for? We don't have them around here. Great chanel!

  • @rowlandstraylight

    @rowlandstraylight

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marking a pedestrian crossing. Parking on zigzags is criminal and is one of the few ways to penalty points on your licence or your car towed and impounded by police. Similarly you can't overtake the front vehicle as they may be hiding pedestrians from view.

  • @snifflytooth

    @snifflytooth

    5 жыл бұрын

    When I was in Rio a few years ago, the ‘rule’ seemed to be as the bike approached the traffic the rider sounded his horn as he approached the cars. Beep... beep...beep...beep... beep...beep... beep then into the cars. Repeated as he needed It was the Olympics though so maybe everyone was on their best behaviour. Great to watch the Police motorcycles clear the way for VIPs

  • @gardenshedman
    @gardenshedman5 жыл бұрын

    This was so good to see i have to say rsm

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Andy. Nice reminder for some people

  • @C...G...
    @C...G...5 жыл бұрын

    :-) brilliant!

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @crispyzombieanimation5348
    @crispyzombieanimation53488 ай бұрын

    Just curious does the instructor and the student have two way communication on these lessons, Or just the instructor?

  • @TitanGoodSpeakerman
    @TitanGoodSpeakerman5 жыл бұрын

    What about bike boxes? If there is a marked junction before the pedestrian crossing, where they paint it green and put bike symbol in there, is it okay to filter to that? Are motorcyclists allowed to stop in them?

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    No. The only time you're allowed to stop in them is if the lights change and you can't safely stop behind the first line

  • @robquince3076
    @robquince30765 жыл бұрын

    Like it👍👍

  • @RoadcraftNottingham

    @RoadcraftNottingham

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rob

  • @paulmatthews7701
    @paulmatthews77015 жыл бұрын

    Always been a bit unclear on the overtaking near a crossing rule,You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians,so do you view a cycle as a vehicle?...and what about a set of traffic lights on a main (or even dual carriageway) road that also doubles as a pedestrian crossing,would you filter to the front and maybe just sit behind the vehicle at the front or does it only apply when they have stopped at a request type crossing ie:it is not controlled by lights but the vehicles just stop when a pedestrian stands at the crossing

  • @assortedpov9722

    @assortedpov9722

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad I'm not the only one who wonders these things. I generally just stop between the first and second vehicle, or alongside the second one if there's not space between. I know I'll be gone before they've put their transmission back in gear anyhow.

  • @bscutajar
    @bscutajar11 ай бұрын

    What I've learned from experience is to never filter past the front car in an intersection or stop sign. Always stay right beside it's rear wheel at most and move with it. If you go in front of the car and you hesitate when you need to move, the car will just move into you as they're usually looking the other way and considering their path to be clear.

  • @Hirotoro4692

    @Hirotoro4692

    10 ай бұрын

    You can pull up at the front of a junction just fine if you have the ability to be recognised. It's not legal but I might pull sightly over the stop line to make myself more visible. Defensive driving ftw