Wow! I've been painting cabinets for quite a few years now, and this video is going to give a big reduction on prep times...so grateful to you. While you were spraying I thought that it might be better to lay them flat and do one side at a time, then you said that. For production spraying I use extension ladders that are set on sawhorses, usually two ladders, and then I carefully cover the ladders with drop cloths. I use a "spin-a-rama " , basically a lazy Susan to place each door on to spin the doors in place to spray the edges and then the flat surface. If you've never tried this method, be sure to raise your doors at least 8 inches off of the spin-a-rama, otherwise you'll find blowback spray gets under the door and leaves a flashing on the underneath. I can easily spray the entire set of doors, setting each on the ladders as I go, go into the kitchen and spray the boxes...and come back out to the garage and remove all the doors from the shelves and flip and spray the other sides...once you get good at this method you can spray the doors as they're laid out on the shelves...the trick is to not angle the spray so that you don't get blowback, to have them separate enough so that no overspray reaches the next door...for extra shelves you can run two 2x4s to each sawhorse shelf...of course you can't spray above the lower doors because of overspray...thanks for your kindness

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

I used to spray all my doors flat. With proper coatings it can be done in a similar time-frame, and can even build the coatings higher this way. I chose to use the paintline psdr series because it saves a good amount of space, AND there is no risk of over spray, scratching, sticking, or marring from setting down and picking up. BUT, If this is the method you chose, you should check out the drying racks and spray twirly from The Paint Line Company and use my discount code ARTISTSTOUCH to save 10% off they're products.

Once again, thank you for sharing your experience with different products. I definitely appreciate learning about products that save time, money and hard labor. I can’t wait to try this one!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe next time you have oak furniture you can try it. More than happy to show you in person.

Thanks for putting together these videos, I'm learning lots!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Your very welcome. Thank you for watching 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 so happy I can help.

Such great work and amazing, detailed instructions!!!!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Not always sure if I am making sence 🤫

So cool! Good work as always.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for the detail. Very good video!

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and appreciating the detail 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Wow. That end product is amazing

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching until the end 🙏🏻

Your videos are very informative. Thanks for the tips.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I'm glad you are finding value in them.

Very knowledgeable presenter...I learned a lot...great technique

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I am happy you were able to learn something from this one!

Thanks for the info, good stuff. Quick tip on the gallon containers, the spout is in that corner for a reason, pour from the other side it will spill less. When you pour the way you did the liquid is contained entirely on spout so when it vents, liquid goes everywhere. If you keep the spout on top and keep container below it, there is air gap in the can that lets it vent easier.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, makes sence. This is one of those situations where you know something, but it is completely out of thought once you start rolling. It is for sure something I won't forget again. Thank you for the reminder 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@bluehannah8696

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. That’s counterintuitive. They should mark the cans. That tip is going to help me a lot.

@1painter4hire

Жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Exactly, and I always forget 😂

Yes, the waviness can go away. There are coatings that not only fill, but also level. I'm a finisher, speaking from experience. Also, there's nothing wrong with Acquacote. There's many ways to skin a snake, all with their pluses and minuses.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I know they can. Depends on the work you want to put in. As you can see from this video I had not tried this technique yet, and in doing so I found out that with just a nice hammered coat the grain and wavyness was gone. The entire point of the video is not to knock aqua coat, Bit of a click bait I know, but to show how with less hand to door labor as far as applying fillers, wiping out, sanding for multi coats before even trying to paint. This saved alot of time and effort with results that were beyond my expectations.

@NotACop247

Жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Is it faster though if it takes 3X as long for oil based fillers to dry than water based, forcing me to go an entire week to finish a gunstock instead of 2 days with Aqua Coat? I like your techniques and teaching methods, but oil based fillers dry in 48-72 hours, while Aqua Coat is ready for round 2 in 8 hours.

Thanks for the tips

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome. Always happy to help. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Hey, good morning. Yeah, I've never tried the hanging method of spraying, but after watching your video I can definitely see the advantages, especially in space saving. But most of the time there is no room in the kitchen to spray doors and drawers, and the living and dining rooms are also cramped with furniture...so I'm always out in the garage spraying. I just have the homeowner move the cars out, and drop 3 mil on the floor and drap. 07mil on one side of the garage to protect goods and set up my spin-a-rama far enough away from my shelves to stop overspray and then go to town spraying. I've gotten so comfortable with this method that after the front and back first coat, I'll actually walk between the shelves with the doors all laid out and spray a second coat on the fronts without moving anything, I'm super conscious of my spray angle and I'm moving fast enough that overspray doesn't matter because everything is wet, simular to spraying cabinets assembled. My dry time is usually an hour, but I give it an extra hour. It's awesome to look at 30+ doors and drawers all laid out wet like glass...but your method is awesome as well. My system crashed a couple jobs back because the homeowner scheduled the garage floor to be epoxy coated right in the middle of production! It's always something right?

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

I really think you should check out my content on here as well as on Instagram. I have done it your way as well as this new way, I also have the portable spray booth from the paintline this is absolutely worth it. Theres a video of me setting it up in the dinning room next to the kitchen because the garage was too small. I also have content of me working in 2 10x10 tents outside my house. And I also have a small set up in my basement when necessary. I also have used a 300sqft shop with self built spray booth and a 1400sqft shop with exhaust wall spray booth. I can do it and get it done in anyway, and you seem to be similar in that manner.

Amazing work and easy to follow, detailed instructions!!! Loving all the videos

Thanks for sharing

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting.

Good point about the "waves" of the grain. The deep thin grooves might be able to be filled, but not those waves. Hadn't thought about that, and most, if not all other vids on this topic don't mention it.

@artists_touch_painting

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for noticing! 🙏🏻 on certain specific open grain species of wood have lesser waves and can go away, but golden oak, and especially veneered oak have a tendency to not hide waves. I will soon have a video showing a good example of this.

Great video

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Great video!

@artists_touch_painting

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!🙏🏻🙏🏻

Nice video bro

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻

Gonna give this a shot. Have excellent results building out with Sherwin's FastDry oil but this seems to be a real time saver. Subbed- always awesome to see someone who gives a shit about this game!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Passion is hard to come by. And this rout does add about a day. But sometimes that's better in the long run. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@davidbahr9612

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Didn't catch it, but what's the cure time on this?

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

5 to 10 min to wipe 4 hours to recoat. Depending on thickness and temperature as well as humidity this takes a while to cure, but when it does it is like a solid cement. I personally went heavy and let it get to an almost cured state and sanded it like a powder as opposed to light coats and wiping.

Use drywall mud and thin it to paint like. I thought it would be waste of time but it’s biggest game changer.

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

Yes this is 1 way to do it, although I'm not sure i trust the bond of mud to wood and the paint over that. Since this product has been discontinued, the best way I have found now is to sand heavy, spray a generous coat of 2k polyurethane primer, sand flat, fill with a coat of bondo, witch bonds very well to the primer, sand those spots before another coat of 2k poly, and sand that flat. This method is all fast drying, heavy build and time saving. I will have an in depth video on it soon.

Thank you very much for your time and the energy you put into this! Awesome stuff! I'm curious about your reason as to why you base coat with shellac and what kind of shellac you're using? Can i use Zinsser B-I-N shellac under the Sherwood filler? Or does the shellac need to be oil based?

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching. BIN has been a staple in the coatings industry forever now. Here i used sherwin williams white pigmented shellac. I personally feel that this product has given me the best results as far as tannin bleed. Oil base primer are most commonly used but the coats need to be thin and sometimes in accumulation. Some vinyl sealers are preferred as well if the top coat is solvent based.

@buddybarlow9604

3 жыл бұрын

BIN is great. Shellac is a amazing bonding primer and it blocks tannin...that's if you don't want to get into the vinyl sealers.

@captbill279

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't attempt to mix Kilz original and BIN shellac based!! I came up short on the BIN primer and couldn't find any anywhere due to this paint shortage so substituted with a quart of Kilz. Dumped it right in with the BIN into my cup. Sprayed just fine on the few doors I had left but when I went to clean up with alcohol as BIN requires, it all CURDLED into a solid clump and stuck to everything! Spent half an hour scrubbing everything clean with acetone. BIN is really nice primer though.

I liked that you used the Sherwood product with reducer. I'm not sure if I will spray or brush on my oak cabinets. I've not used a sprayer before and don't know which one is best for a DIY project. Do you recommend a specific Wagner sprayer for this?

@artists_touch_painting

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately this product is discontinued. And the reducer is lighter fluid. So I wouldn't run it through most diy sprayers. But you can use a high build primer through a sprayer, or brush and roll it on into the grain, and use bondo spot glazing putty to fill. Please follow my Instagram account for more tips and help.

What are those hangers you are using? This is very cool! Thank you 🙏

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

The hangers are from thepaintline.com you can buy them separately or buy the PSDR Series wich is the spraying rack with the spinner and the racks for drying hung. All comes in travel bags and sets up and breaks down by 1 person in under 10 min. Time saver, space saver, quality enhancer. Use my discount code ARTISTSTOUCH at check out.

Talk about adding M.1 paint extender for trim

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

Yea. This is crazy thin lol and its essentially lighter fluid 🔥

Great info thank you, what sprayer did you use?

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. For this particular process I used the Titan Capspray HVLP Turbine with the remote pressure cup.

You know what I think rolling it will probably be the best bet because I've done rolling the stuff with the primer and that pushes it into the grains when the sprayer doesn't really get in there so when you thought process of having them lay down and sprayed what I would do is I would spray right roll right after it like as it's hanging and then spray one more time as is still wet so you know that way it pushes it into the grain and whatnot so I think I'm going to try this method but do a sample and I think this is going to work for you

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. That if I wasn't hanging I would rolle them. Surprisingly this stuff filled really well. I hammered these doors really heavily and had quite a high build considering how thin the product is at 100% reduction. If you do this please let me know how it goes because I may want to try this aswell. Only issue would be any orange peel left over, because when sprayed and then sanded when almost cured it is very very smooth. If you wait too long it's like sanding cement.

@Therealphantomzero

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting the reason why I suggested this is that I use a cabinet coat so I use sticks primer now I use bin primer when I do white but what I've done is I spray the sticks and I have a roller in the spray booth and I just kind of work it in a little bit and then that takes away a lot of the primer so it's translucent so then I spray so what I just rolled over and what that leaves is thicker amount so then what I do is I just lightly block over it and then I spray the sticks and if there's any additional that I need I just pray an extra coat of of paint and then lightly scuff it. But I also tried the other method today which is the drywall mud which I've heard a lot of people do and yeah so I don't like it as much but it sounds very easy just super Dusty so I'm going to give this one a try but the way that I saw your cabinets like that's pretty much how it looks like when I spray primer and so yeah I would say try a sample with that mix then try a sample with the sticks primer and then see what you personally think and let me know

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, I do want to try spraying a thinner coat and rolling it wet, mist a thin even coat and then sand before cure. Then move along as I normally would. The idea is to save time filly by hand, limit dust contamination, as well as coats to achieve a fill. Hit me up on IG so we can have a more consistent convo on finishing techniques. @artists_touch_painting

@Therealphantomzero

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting i just yo you on Instagram

@aaronjackson2780

2 жыл бұрын

@@Therealphantomzero how well does the stix sand between coats? Is it similar to an oil based?

Would 3 coats work better plus the building primer to give a 100% smooth surface any advise would helpful thanks

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

More coats would obviously fill more but you would also be extending the length of the job waiting between coats to dry

Can you please list ALL the supplies needed to do this? The exact paint and primers as well. Thank you!!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Everything is listed in the description

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing not listed are the undercoat and finish coats because the actual spraying was not covered in this video. But after the shellac and the filler I sprayed a coat of Sher Wood Kem Aqua plus surfacing primer and 2 coats of Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel in the color Creamy.

FYI….turn your naphtha container with the spout up and it will pour easier without splashing when it is a full container

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

Hahah yes, I realized that after, I believe some others commented this as well 🤣🤣 funny how things just disappear from your head once the camera turns on

I haven't gotten through the whole video, but I hand paint frames and spray doors. Could this work in the vertical application by brush?

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this product can work with brush or roller with less reduction.

Which sand paper grits do you prefer to use on the filler?

@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

This filler is tricky. If you wait until its fully cured, its a rock and quite difficult to sand back or fade heavy edges, but if you get to it while its still soft you can manipulate it better, but it will clog your papers pretty fast. I suggest 180 to start

Also, is there something I can spray on after the filler, in order to be able to spray a water based paint after?

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

You can spray shellac, oil primer, or 2k primer after filler prior to top coat

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@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

Check out my newer content. This is so many years old even before I uploaded it.

I love you bro!!! No homo Great content super useful

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thank you. I love you for watching no homo 🙏🏻🙏🏻

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a reason not to use the filler you describe, then coat of shellac and then emerald urethane? I have a small kitchen and I love working with Emerald urethane and the finish of it. Thank you. Great video.

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

No that is perfectly fine. I do it both ways. Sometimes I like to seal the wood and turn it white so I can more easily see the grain and see what's left once sanding the filler.

Do you think the ryobi paint sprayer would work with this?

@artists_touch_painting

5 ай бұрын

Its possible. I wouldn't recommend it though. The thinning chemical is essentially lighter fluid. Thos electric hand held sprayers can cause alot of static electricity highly raising your chances of explosion. I would recommend another water reducable filler like Timbermate or the wood filling putty from Sherwin Williams

If your just going to paint them in a solid color you can mix 45 min mud, with water and flat paint. Use a bondo spreader, let it dry and sand with 150. I spray with a vinyl sealer and topcoat with 3-4 coats of pre catalyzed lacquer

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

How long would you say it takes you to fill 100% on both sides, the edges, and the boxes in the house? Spraying this filler hung, gets me at 80% fill minimum. Leaving only a few areas, usually the wavyness, to be filled by hand with bondo or putty or spackle. Saving me an enormous amount of time and labor.

@shidoin5398

Жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting depends on the size. Maybe an hour and a half

@LisaJones-vl5dd

Жыл бұрын

@@shidoin5398 I cannot imagine doing this to 40+ doors/drawers! Yikes!

@shidoin5398

Жыл бұрын

@@LisaJones-vl5dd i can fill the grain on 40 in a few hours

For best results thin to 125%, right before you spray, use a nylox brush and quickly brush a super thin coat into the grain. Takes about 20 seconds. Then spray a medium thick coat. If you brush it right and spray it right you will eliminate 95% of the wood grain in this one step.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

I do not disagree with this method. I'll try it on my next oak project. On this round I did achieve 95% + fill in the 1 step spraying heavy. Anything that was remaining I did end up doing by hand so maybe brushing in first is the saving in the long run. Regardless I think another way to achieve more fill would be spraying flat, but with those dry times coverage an all sides takes a bit longer. Thank you for your tip 🙏🏻

@cornultimatum

Жыл бұрын

Like a 5:4 ratio?

@wesleydeer889

Жыл бұрын

@@cornultimatum well It will depend on your exact woodgrain. You may need to even go 3:2 or for very wide opening wood grain you don’t want to thin at all, just forcibly brush it into to get total fill saturation, and for deeper woodgrain you may even want to let the paint sit for a couple minutes before you spray.

What hangers and hooks did you use to hold up the cabinets? I'd like to replicate your setup.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

This is the psdr series from the paint line company. I have a video reviewing it if you scroll on my page. You won't be disappointed

Where can I get that sher-wood natural filler!? I don't see it on my SW Pro account. Waiting to here back from my rep, its the weekend lol

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Your rep or store manager should be able to get it in for you. Its a very uncommon request and unfortunately is not cheap. Sher-wood Natural Filler D70 T 1

@harryhood83

3 жыл бұрын

You may want to try a contractor store. They are more likely to carry it along with much of the various Sherwood products. My store here in Lakeville, MN carries it.

Do they still sell this grain filler at Sherwin? I've been a Kelly Moore guy all my life, so I don't know much about what sherwin offers but I cant find it on their website. I have been using aquacoat and it has been a pain in my butt with how it shrinks and requires multiple coats. I usually spray a coat of BIN with HVLP first, then use the aquacoat so I can see the grain pores better, then follow up with my second coat of BIN once I am satisfied with the grain. Then I use two coats of the Gemini Evo Eclipse top coat. But the grain filling is definitely my bottle neck and takes the most time during the door/drawer portion so I would definitely like to find something better. Also I live in California so sometimes my options are limited due to EPA laws. Hah just noticed I have the same spray booth and dry rack from PaintLine.

@artists_touch_painting

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I believe this product has been discontinued. Your sherwin rep may be able to track some down if any exists in store or warehouse. Now days I find a thing coat of 2k primer sprayed and back rolled, followed by a normal coat of 2k primer does 90% of the filling with ease. 2k primer also blocks tannin. Bin shellac is too brittle and will eventually chip. The remaining grain to be filled is done pretty easily with red bondo spot putty, dries fast, very little shrinking, sands easy.

Great video. I have watched a dozen videos on the subject and i still the question has never been answered. Does the wood need to be sanded prior to adding filler?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. 1st step on any cabinet project is to degrease and clean, 2nd step is to sand, how much is up to you prior to filling. But sanding will always promote bonding of any coating to the substrate.

@travisk5589

2 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Thanks for the reply. I have oak cabinets which appear to have a very thin layer of shiny stuff. Is there a way to remove that prior to filling? Or is sanding usually enough?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

The shiny layer is poly urethane. And grease I'm sure. Use a degreaser to scrub everything clean, sand with 100 grit, do your filling, sand again with a lesser grit, prime, sand again with a lesser grit, paint

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to get the shiny stuff all the way off, you just need it scuffed enough to open and receive your coatings, just make it look dull

@travisk5589

2 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting awesome. Thanks for the tip

How do you wipe off the excess after you let it sit? Just a rag?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

When done exactly as directed, yes you are to wipe off with a lint free rag. It starts to turn into a white icing type coating. On this I pushed the limits, sprayed crazy heavy, let it run and drip everywhere. Once it was semi-solid, not yet cured, I sanded it back. It powdered up like a doughnut. Realisticly the product should be used as most other fillers in wich you would apply like a paste with a blade, let sit, wipe off. But if your set up with a sprayer, this I think is the way to go hands down. Half the labor. Half the time, twice the quality.

Where did you get the Sher-wood at? All Sherwin Williams is showing is a water reducible stain

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

The item and some other industrial coatings don't show up on a search even with a pro app, it needs to be ordered from your rep and delivered to the store. Unfortunately over that last few months it isn't available at all due to the shortages of raw materials necessary to produce the project and others.

So it’s been two years are you still using sher wood? What else had you tried besides aqua coat ? I’m thinking of trying drywall mud thin coat

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

I'm 90% sure that the sher-wood natural filler is discontinued. Aqua coat takes tons of coats, drywall mud will take quite a bit of work, multiple coats, it cracks n crumbles, not necessarily the right thing to smash into wood grain long term. The best way we have found to fill grain now, is good quality 2k polyurethane. It fills, builds, it sands nice, it blocks tannin and dye, spray close 2 good coats. Use bondo spot putty to fill any remainder of grain and pores before top coat.

@azmalu

6 ай бұрын

I had a feeling it was discontinued.. my local store didn’t have it and the young rep hadn’t even heard of it . Skill level im a diy guy.. having a painter paint my house and from his order history he primarily does oil based and pro mar . Whats learning curve for someone like him on 2k products like centurion ?

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

2k products make life quite a bit easier, but without finishing experience, proper practices in spraying, he will likely have a nightmare of a time. Temps and humidity are important. Flat sanding are important, spray pump, gun, tip are pretty important. Masking, proper ventilation set up etc. Its a specialty. Your neighborhood painter shouldn't really be doing cabinet finishing if it isn't a passion. Its a specialty, and really should remain that way, but with the internet, and more readily available top products, "anyone can do it" 🙄

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

Also, centurion is honestly my least favorite 2k product available, wich is sad because its "technically" American made. Renner and Milesi are among the best and most well known, most consistent, user friendly products 1k/2k

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@artists_touch_painting

3 ай бұрын

🙏🏻

Someone told me that a quick-setting drywall mud (20min or 45 min, etc) could be used to skim over the grain and fill it in. Have you heard of that one?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, 20 min is best but you have to work a side at a time, and it's a bit tough to get on the edges and in certain door profiles. Multiple coats and sanding for max filling. Watered down wood filler, the yellowish brown crystally looking stuff in small tubs from Sherwin is also a similar route. As well as aqua coat and others. This method gives you the ability to cut out hours or even days of labor with better finish, if you can get your hands on this gallon and reducer that is. I cant even get it anymore due to shortages.

@ranger70

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve used 20 minute mud then sand then BIN shellac then sand then topcoat with HVLP

@pearlperlitavenegas2023

2 жыл бұрын

Sherwin Williams Shrink Free Spackling works great too

How many panels could you spray with that 1 can of filler?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what equipment your using to spray, some systems are more efficient than others. But I used half the gallon to do 1 full ridiculously heavy coat on 36 pieces AND the boxes in the kitchen.

What did you use when you said you used a surfacing primer over the sherwood?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

It is all within the same product line under sherwood. Sherwood Kem Aqua Plus has a surfacer, an undercoat, and a clear topcoat.

@aaronjackson2780

2 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting thanks for the reply, just to be clear, is the surfacer it's own proudct? I can't seem to find it at the sherwin at my location

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Sherwood Kem Aqua Plus Surfacer. Not every store carries it, they should be able to order it for you, and not ever store has the proper machine to tint kem aqua with the specific dyes needed. You should connect with your regional sales rep.

Read the MSDS on that solvent and protect yourself.

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

If your referring to the naphtha, I know. It's essentially lighter fluid. If it wasn't for the video I would be in a mask, during spraying we keep it ventilated and filtered with explosion proof exhaust fan. Thank you for your concern though, I greatly appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻

One thing you should add is that if you're using a solid/solvent base product do not use a water base paint. This is why people are using Aqua coat.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

True. Many of your options are limited when using solvent. Generally speaking though, most people are now finding themselves switching over to waterborne coatings. Regardless, aqua coat is waterbase and this natural wood filler can be coated over with either once cured and sealed. The main difference here is amounts of coats to gain desired pore fill. Most water base fillers evaporate and shrink causing the need for many coats.

Did Sherwin Williams discontinue the Sher-Wood? It's not on the website, and googling it doesn't provide it.

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

Sher-wood is not discontinued, it isn't sold to home owners. Need a contractor account for it. The natural filler specifically is nearly non existent now days though 😓

@MessyyMissyy

Жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Well that sucks! Lol

Hello new subscriber here. Awesome video! Went to my local Sherwin and got me a gallon. Question... can I spray solvent base paint on top of this filler? Kenvar convertion varnish then a convertion varnish top?

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Don't quote me on it as being factual, but this is a natural filler, as long as it is cured completely and then primed over properly, I don't see any reason why you couldn't. PS I am glad you got some because it is currently extinct in my area and I am now experimenting with Old Masters grain filler wich seems to be very similar, but It does not say I can be reduced to spray, although the 1st ingredient is indeed Naptha.

@MessyyMissyy

Жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting How well did the Old Master's work? Were you able to spray it on? How well was the coverage?

What kind of sprayer are you using?

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

In this instance I am using a turbine sprayer. A Titan Capspray 115. You can order one through Pittsburgh spray equipment (link below) or use our discount code ARTISTSTOUCH at checkout.

Hello do you know where can I find the sher wood natural filler?

@artists_touch_painting

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I believe it has been discontinued. 😔

@Toasty575

21 күн бұрын

@@artists_touch_paintingcan you share your method for filling the grain now that this has been discontinued? I’m DIY my varnished oak cabinets and here’s what my plan is which was given by a SW employer….just degrease without sanding, then apply SW extreme bond primer, then fill grain with watered down wood filler, sand, then BIN original Shellac, lightly sand, then 2 coats of Emerald urethane trim with light sanding in between the coats. Any opinion would be helpful and much appreciated.

try Fine Paints of Europe, Brushing Putty, it works

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

It is on my "To Try List"

What type of hanging system do you have?

@artists_touch_painting

11 ай бұрын

This is the PSDR Series produced by The Paint Line Company. There should be a link in the description. You can use code ARTISTSTOUCH for a discount at check out.

@texascrossbowdude636

11 ай бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting thank you for your fast response and thank you for your content.

I love the look of my painted oak cabinets with visible grains.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

I like it as well, depending on color and how in tact the grain can remain after the finish. And untrained hand will fill some grain and leave the pieces looking inconsistent. Some clients want it gone, and this is the best way I have found that is most productive and efficient while being cost effective with great results, saving time and money while providing quality is what we strive for.

@light-yi2me

2 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Absolutely! You’re doing a great job 👏🏻

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@paulp6397

2 жыл бұрын

Wow.

You need one of those red tip gallon mixers that goes on the end of a battery operated drill I'm sure you have one LoL

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

I do, unfortunately I forgot it this day and the job was a bit further out than usual

Since you are spraying with this filler thinned out, why would it be any different than painting? The low areas of grain are still low and the flat surfaces are higher. Looks quite obvious at the end. When I’ve used grain filler, it’s spread and scraped on so that it plugss the grain and is wiped off the surface. The grain is now flat. In your video the grain is still quite obvious, unless you do 2 or 3 coats before it’s smooth.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Please watch until the end of the video where I show 1 sample cabinet door with half filled with ONE COAT and the other half just primed and painted. It is a night and day difference and I resurfaced the cabinetry. There are no open pores, there are no waves, no grain to be found. I did this without spending 2 days filling by hand, drying, wiping off, and doing multiple coats. I would also alive you to DM me on IG @artists_touch_painting and ill send you a live picture of said sample that still looks as good as the day I made it.

Can’t find this stuff anywhere. 😢

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, unfortunately it has become nearly non existent at this point. My sherwin rep had to travel a few hours to get me a gallon last time I needed it.

Did you pay extra for the distressed effect of the can?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, no, thankfully I got a "try before you buy" deal on it. My can was good on the inside, another stack broke on it.

@BattleGn0me

2 жыл бұрын

My first job out of the military was a sign painter(Pre-Vynil and strip panel). We had some cans of One Shot that looked like that in the back or the truck.

Has anyone experienced shrinkage with aqua oat?

@artists_touch_painting

5 ай бұрын

Yes, there is not very many "fillers" that do not shrink back, without being a 2 component or solvent based product. And even some of those do evaporate some and shrink back a bit. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I’m great full that I don’t work in this market. I love doing high end custom it’s much more fulfilling.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

We do hogh end custom cabinets, stairways, fine finishing, and custom interior paint design. Starting this year we are cutting out the standard interior/exterior repaint work.

@JohnDoe-mp1zk

2 жыл бұрын

what was the purpose of that?

@MattFormoso

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-mp1zk vanity?

Bro you need to learn about finishing and a coating called envirolak save all those steps your doing seriously

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct about needing to learn about finishing sir. It is an endless endeavor. I know of envirolak, as well as renner, and milesi, and centurion. And kem aqua. As of right now, in my location, the easiest and most readily available coating to me is kem aqua. I seldom use the Emerald anymore unless it is due to meeting a price point.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Also, alot of these other coatings are just high build. They aren't actual wood filling. And this added step to reduce and spray the filler was less than a day to get 90+% pore filling, saved multiple steps of wiping and sanding between coats as well.

@doomslayerforever2858

3 жыл бұрын

Idk.. I must have been sold old frozen envirolak cause it would settle on the bottom and took 10.mins to mix. It didn't spray right and sagged. Both the 200 and 170 after spending $800 for only 10 gal and Loss of 20.hours of work I'll never buy this trash again. Anything else is better.

@Blackstone3845

3 жыл бұрын

Envirolak

@danmacdonald7484

3 жыл бұрын

I use envirolak daily, how are you filling wood grain with this product? High build products won't fill deep oak pits.

Come on man, you need a paint stirring drill, keep it inside the can for no mess. Save time and energy, not to mention that it does a great job of mixing. Way better than by hand.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I made mention of this in the video. The job was quite a distance from home or any stores and my mixer was on a different job before I realized it.

Great video, but I was getting anxiety by all the, " UM"..............."UM"

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

Yea I apologize for that. I'm usually doing these videos on the fly and I'm not a professional actor. It is something I have been trying to work on though

Maybe replacing the “5 yr old rusty can” look with a new can of your featured product would have been much more impressive. You’re marketing yourself, after all, and the products you use.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

The product shelf life is much much shorter than 5 years. Listing to my words in the video. The gallon had another gallon break on it and the one in the video was given to me for free to test it. I decided to make a video on how it is used and how much time it saves. My videos are not to market my business or myself. It is to share knowledge and help those who are getting into painting or need guidance on how to carry out procedures. If you found no value, keep it to yourself. Thanks for your comments anyway 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Grain didn't look filled well at all. Maybe more coats?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the entire video. At the end it shows before and after walk through as well as 1 door split in half with and without this process. I fille more than 100% and created an entirely new surface Over top of the grain. Beyond that, I have the sample in my truck this whole time and it has not failed since it's creation. DM on IG and I can send you a live picture of it.

Your "HVLP" sprayer is a turbine sprayer. HVLP is a nearly meaningless term. All of my air-assisted airless guns are HVLP. My Devibiss gravity guns are HVLP. My Binks Mach 1 pressure feed gun is HVLP. My turbine guns - Croix , Graco, and Accuspray are HVLP. Turbine guns, like yours, like mine, don't use a compressor to deliver the air, they use a turbine, like a vacuum cleaner motor. My turbine guns are all non-bleeder designs. In the older days, these gun types were mostly bleeder guns.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I do understand that HVLP is across the board for air and fluid pressure. But in most cases, the audience easily relates what my turbine titan capspray is when referred to as HVLP as opposed to airless air assisted or just airless. I am not claiming to be a full time finisher but I do back that I have some research and hands on experience over the years to put out and share something of value I learned in laymen terms. I try to keep honest. And real. This is why you get to see me struggle mixing the product. I really really do appreciate your comments and I welcome them, but I hope I am not being judged based of of 1 thrown together video in an attempt to share knowledge. Please reach out to me on Instagram, I would love to pick your brain about coatings and guns. Still knew, still learning.

In the amount of time it took to mix this shit I could have already filled all the grain by hand

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

In the amount of time it took you to type this, you could have already shut the fuck up. Keep your negative ass out my comments. 🙏🏻

you didnt even show the redults

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

You must not have watched to the end. I show side by side before and after video and picture. Theres a showing of a sample door with half filled and half not filled. There's a picture of the sample door half and half as the damn thumbnail of the video.

Skip to 21:00 to skip him mixing old product enough to make it useable.

@artists_touch_painting

9 ай бұрын

😅

I used the aqua coat it was a nightmare.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

I think anything you have to do by hand and wipe off and do multiple times is a nightmare, however, on smaller projects it is good at what it does.

You should have used low pressure airless system…. I can’t see ya man…..

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

😅😅 yes, we have since switched to airless and air assisted, honestly though, this thinned product actually works better out of this turbine or a conventional cup gun. Too bad it is now discontinued 🥺

Why aren't you using a mixer?

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Normally I would, but unfortunately on this day, it was left in my shed and the job was in a different state.

Bro legit, why are you putting trim enamel on cabinets? You should be putting Kem Aqua (from SherWood) Milesi...Renner..Envirolak or something made for woodworking on those cabinets. Your system is great but that top coat is just literally for trim, it doesn't come anywhere near these 2k coatings whatsoever..esp if they're crosslinked. You said it yourself, it's trim enamel... hand oils will 100% break that down over time, especially around knobs. But this is a killer set up for grain filling, i love it... but look into Renner/Milesi or Kem Aqua since you already use Sherwin stuff. You're already spraying correctly, i can only imagine how durable your stuff would be if you used a high quality finish coat. Like Emrald Urethane is fantastic for your usually trim but coming from someone whos used it on cabinets years ago... if you were to use Renner/Milesi you would never pick up Emerald ever again, i promise you my man. They're made especially for cabinets and they're also water based, you can't put a catalyst or a crosslinker in emerald..those are gonna give you the durability.

@buddybarlow9604

3 жыл бұрын

But you got a follow! And this is all respect but trust me..look into those finish coats..your clients will fall in love with you. Especially 2-3 years down the road and there's no nicks or scratches..your system is great, its just the finish coat im talking about.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Your preaching to the choir my man. I study endlessly on those product lines. Unfortunately as of now I'm only doing 1 to 2 cabinet jobs a month and some of the top 2ks and euro coatings are not easily accessible to me. Also the lack of controlled environment really takes an issue on finishing. BUT.. I did just this week nail down my new process using the sherwood kem aqua lines, and landed a deal to use a booth in a warehouse, so im glad your following because you're about to witness the come up. I appreciate your comment and you are 100% correct in your suggestions. Like I said, I constantly research, read, and study all of these other coatings, as well as talk to our great industry leaders consistently and will soon be put into effect in my process. Go have a follow on my IG and stay tuned for everything thats comming next 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@norrisshannahan9965

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Hi I am a newbe to this stuff. I am doing a new Kitchen, unfinished red oak from Lowes, I want white satin top coat. I want to use your approach with the Sher-Wood Natural Filler. Should I go Kem Aqua Primer? Does Kem Aqua have a White Satin? I was going to use White Satin Ultralac till I saw this! Now what? Got cabinets no wax shellaced now.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

After the shellac you can apply the natural filler, for this particular project I successfully used the Kem Aqua Plus Surfacing Primer to smooth everything out and give a nice profile. From there you can choose to use the Kem Aqua Plus in white. Its similar to a satin finish or you can apply the clear over it wich comes in gloss, bright, dull, and medium rubbed effects

@norrisshannahan9965

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Hi got some Sher

So this doesn't really save time because it dries in four hours. Aqua coat is 45 minutes.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not but to get the desired result I only need 1 coat and I am spraying all sides at once. And the sanding of it, if necessary, is a light wipe down with a block. I am also not spending time wiping each edge and bevel and flat with a blade by hand for 30 plus doors and on the boxes inside, wiping off, waiting for dry, re applying to 30 plus doors etc for maybe 2, 3, even 4 coats some times. So in the long run, in my experience, it does save time, and intensive labor.

Awesome info man but did I really just spend 24 minutes watching you mix with 3 minutes of actual information lol

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I wasn't planning on doing this video that day. But the job was far and I couldn't postpone that part of the process. Aside from that I decide to keep in as much as I can to collect watch time. Viewers can skip ahead or not. Thank you for watching regardless though 🙏🏻

Why don’t people use a 2 part epoxy high fill primer to fill the grain? Epoxy, polyurethane, or urethane, there are high fill primer’s that can fill oak grain with one spray session. Then you sand and paint/seal.

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

I've done it with success with 2k poly primers, and it's how I have to do it now because this product is nearly impossible to track down these days.

That’s not true you can one 100% take oak cabinets and get them a mirror finish

@artists_touch_painting

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can, but to do it by hand or by building up coats takes quite a bit of time and energy. The point I'm trying to make in the video is that spraying a filler saved me a ton of time and labor and gave great results first round.

I just came to say um .

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

As you, um... should

The best, easiest, fastest and cheapest way is to use drywall mud diluted to a paint texture. Apply with brush in 2 thin layers, sand with fine sandpaper, applying a premium primer and paint using 2 costs of BM Advance paint. Grain is gone. Finished look is professional. Simple.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree. Takes quite a bit of time. Going at it by hand I would prefer wood filler on its own and the rest with bondo glazing putty. Shellac is a necessity when it comes to oak or a 2k primer to block tannin bleed. Over top of that should be a 2k polyurethane top coat to further seal, withstand kitchen abuse and is KCMA approved. Wich advance by BM is not hitting any of those points. Easy. Fast. And cheapest is absolutly never the way to go for quality and longevity

@jaydee177

2 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting - sure you can use wood filler and Bondo - and sand until the cows come home. Nothing beats drywall mud diluted for ease of sanding AND covering the grain. As for primer, ZINSSER BIN or SMART PRIME. Those puppies bond to anything. And seal. Two coats of Benjamin Moore Advance to top the project off and it’s a 10/10. Not sure what universe you’re from. But good luck to you.

You should have had your stuff together before videotaping

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I cant disagree with that logic. Wish I had. But when you are running a business there are many more important things that need to be handled rather than make sure my video is planned properly. Regardless the info is the same and I hope that you were still able to vind something of value within this chaos. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Video is 90 percent mixing

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and that is because, as I stated, i did not have a mixer with me, so why not show the hard way right? 😅😅 Lol thanks for watching I really appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Where in the hell did you find that can in the dumpster.

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

Damn you have a good eye. Might as well have. If you listened to the video, or read the CC, you would know that it was on a truck that had a stack of cans fall. And this one was only dented and then given too me free of charge. Quite a deal because the price tag on it is pretty high up there.

All I hear is a Philly/PA accent 🤔

@artists_touch_painting

6 ай бұрын

You are correct. I am going to assume and take this as a compliment. Go birds!🦅💚

only way to fill in grain 100 percent is durhams wood putty then a heavy primer coat

@artists_touch_painting

2 жыл бұрын

This first hand experience recorded here proves otherwise, as does the sample from this job that I carry with me in the truck. I am interested in this putty your speaking if and what the time of labor differs from this route I take now.

He talk to much

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I call it the gift of gab. Part of my success selling jobs to afford the opportunity to share things I learn for free on the internet. Thanks for your comment bro 🙏🏻

You are basing everything off of spraying, not everyone has a sprayer or knows how to properly use one, aqua is a diy, so no its not as cost effective as your saying to do your method

@artists_touch_painting

4 ай бұрын

A sprayer can be rented, also im basing it off of it being a natural wood broken down into a binder. So the wood grain is being filled with wood it also does not shrink back, is able to be sealed as natural wood. The longevity is my basis. Aside from that, my videos are not ALWAYS geared towards the DIY and I believe that in almost every case your cabinets and fine finishing should be done by a professional OR you should follow these professional tips and procedures to do the job right. "What I like to do here is help you grow your business and help the do it yourselfer get the job done right" NOT get the job done "good enough" NOT get the job done "easily" NOT get the job done "cheap" BUT to "get the job done right" in wich case you could do everything suggested by a professional, buy or rent all the stuff, follow the procedures, probably do a pretty damn good job, do it right, and save the money that a pro is charging you due to his experience in the craft.

Sorry to be so blunt, you seem like a sincere person. But I can't concur. You struggled to get a smooth finish, spent extra time and got unacceptable results. Did I miss something? Best to you though.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

The only struggle I had with this job in particular was mixing the filler, and dealing with cold temperatures. I spent part of a day spraying and sanding. 90% grain fill, after than anything that I was not happy with got a wood filler put on by hand. The sample I have carried with me for months has held up phenomenally. As well as you must have missed the pictures at the end of the non filled compared to the filler. Half and half. It's a clear, undeniable night and day difference. I'm not sure where you saw a struggle aside from mixing the product. But I am also not the type to hide anything. Get a mixer and fill your grain in a day, find me a better solution that doesn't cost an hour per door multi coat by hand.

@3Repete

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting I spread the grain filler. Wait. Then I spend 5 or 10 minutes sanding it. Fill again, wait, sand, paint.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

How much time per door per coat do you spend? On average people take between 15-30 minutes per door. Times that 30 or more doors per coat. It adds up. I've done it, I've talked to many who do it, and my system in comparison yeilds better pore fill percentage faster. In under an hour 30 plus doors were filled over 90%. In the bevels, on the sides, front and back. 1 coat. The boxes in the kitchen even faster. Wipe on wipe off on the cases and doors adds up. You don't have to agree with this system, but my experience and data proves otherwise. It also wins me more jobs pitching 95% fill or more only adding 1 day labor price.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Please reach me on IG so I can do a live with you and show the same cabinet door in real time results. Then we can talk about your method vs my method. @artists_touch_painting

@3Repete

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting Sorry, As I said you do a slower and less satisfactory job. I'm not interested in a contest. I'm done and will not be answering you any more.

There's so much grain in your after shots. You saved time because it looks like you did half the work filling the grain. You shouldn't be telling people not to use Aqua Coat. I learned more from the comments than your video. This would have been better if you have done a review on the Sher Wood. You could have cut ten minutes out of the video from the video of you mixing the filler that has sat for months. Sorry to be so blunt.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the end of the video. I show you 1 cabinet door with half of it filled. The other half is not filled. It is also the cover photo of the video. I built up nearly 10 wet mil between all of the coatings. I have 100% pore fill using this method.

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

Please reach me on IG so I can do a live with you and show the same cabinet door in real time results. Then we can talk about your method vs my method. @artists_touch_painting

@Piperalpha81

3 жыл бұрын

@@artists_touch_painting I'm so sorry I missed the part at the end. It looks pretty good.

Video is way too long. Too much talking. More work and results

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your feedback 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Stop saying Uhmm! So annoying!

@artists_touch_painting

3 жыл бұрын

I hear ya man. I have a few of my videos where I went in and removed every "uhm" there were so many that I could find them from just looking at the specific sound wave on the audio line.

@johnnywhitepride8540

3 жыл бұрын

Change your good morning picture. Gaye n so annoying!

Okay, you lost me at "Um". I've just decided to try this does not make you an "Um" expert. You can't diss another product when you "Um" tell us this is the first time you have "Um" tried this. And have you even considered "Um" painting or "Um" something to your own garage wall? Not exactly the "Um" painting expert I'm "Um" looking for.

@pearlperlitavenegas2023

2 жыл бұрын

You um sound like um your wife is not giving you any um so you come to KZread to vent your frustrations.