How to Evade FOX-3 Radar Missiles

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In this video we’d like to tell you how you can dodge the new active radar-homing missiles, also known as the FOX-3.
The first medium-range missiles with ARH seekers in War Thunder: French MICA, Chinese PL-12, American AIM-120, Russian R-77, Japanese AAM-4, Israeli Derby and South African R-Darter.
Subtitles are available in the following languages: English, Spanish, French, German, Polish, Turkish, Chinese, Portuguese.
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  • @laul3478
    @laul34782 күн бұрын

    "Just notch bro"

  • @bpop2148

    @bpop2148

    2 күн бұрын

    - This video

  • @retardedpepega8831

    @retardedpepega8831

    2 күн бұрын

    This is the new side climb meme

  • @BearcatThunder

    @BearcatThunder

    2 күн бұрын

    Did you not see it work perfectly? Or did we watch a different video?

  • @laul3478

    @laul3478

    2 күн бұрын

    @@BearcatThunder Great that the video shows an example for one missile and not 10 launched in your direction. You've never played Top Tier before.

  • @OldinaryChimera

    @OldinaryChimera

    2 күн бұрын

    The 16 aim-120 in my mig: Nuh uh 🗿

  • @stribesgaming
    @stribesgaming2 күн бұрын

    great advice, if you are in a low population environment. Not very feasible to apply in 13.0 Air RB

  • @kashikaze9129

    @kashikaze9129

    2 күн бұрын

    Works fine in it tbh. Especially the 20+ advice they gave.

  • @Idkwhattoput151

    @Idkwhattoput151

    2 күн бұрын

    @@kashikaze91293 missiles coming at you from 3 different directions. This doesn’t work

  • @FullThrottleRacing535

    @FullThrottleRacing535

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Idkwhattoput151 it does

  • @oofdotcom

    @oofdotcom

    2 күн бұрын

    if you notch one missile the you turn into another 🤣​@@FullThrottleRacing535

  • @ricofighter

    @ricofighter

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Idkwhattoput151 skill issue, go back to air to air basics, if you're putting yourself in the way of 3 fox3's, you're the problem

  • @Donkeymaster9000
    @Donkeymaster90002 күн бұрын

    Defyn will do a better guide At least he’s showing all the quirks like missiles tracking through mountains

  • @beerenthuizer5221

    @beerenthuizer5221

    2 күн бұрын

    i mean depending on how long you are behind a mountain yeah thats possible... its the IOG

  • @blackop3765

    @blackop3765

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@beerenthuizer5221 Nah, the seeker quite literally doesnt lose lock. It tracks you even if you make turns behind a mountain after its fired at you. Thats not iog lmao.

  • @stacosaurus

    @stacosaurus

    2 күн бұрын

    VTOL planes just sitting behind a mountain 🗿

  • @realmealdeal1999

    @realmealdeal1999

    2 күн бұрын

    @@blackop3765yes it has to because of how the coding works in the game…

  • @ItzCPU_

    @ItzCPU_

    2 күн бұрын

    They fixed that

  • @LORDFERROK100
    @LORDFERROK1002 күн бұрын

    The problem comes when you are being targeted by 3 or 4 AHR missiles and you cannot notch them all at the same time. These real life tactics are used in real scenarios. And there is no recorded battle fearuring 16vs16 planes at the same time in a small area. This game isn't ready for Fox-3. Heck it even wasn't ready for advanced fox-2.

  • @daisukekazumi2399

    @daisukekazumi2399

    2 күн бұрын

    So you knowing this information you allow the enemy to do that by going into their range of fox3s? Defend, stick with the team, and adapt and learn.

  • @srgabrielfb

    @srgabrielfb

    2 күн бұрын

    This game don't alow furballs anymore, so you have to position yourself in good spots. the map is big enough.

  • @dsg4500

    @dsg4500

    2 күн бұрын

    @@daisukekazumi2399i think you didnt see his point, how can you defend if theres multiple fox 3s coming at you at multiple different directions and sticking with your team doesnt really help when they have their face caved in from having the same problem, 16v16 is too chaotic and unpredictable to have proper stratergy

  • @zachn5529

    @zachn5529

    2 күн бұрын

    @@dsg4500the point is that won’t happen if you position right. If you’re down bad enough to have 3-4 fox 3s coming at you from a bunch of different angles you are simply too close to the enemy. Basically you done messed up if that happens

  • @francoarca2122

    @francoarca2122

    2 күн бұрын

    @@dsg4500 exactly what zach said, wtf u were doing to have a fox3 coming from you 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock at the same time? How did you put yourself in that situation?

  • @ZeroTwo1st
    @ZeroTwo1st2 күн бұрын

    Q&A How to stock grind air RB 13.0

  • @Daniel-wj9rz

    @Daniel-wj9rz

    2 күн бұрын

    You don’t (from my experience)

  • @srgabrielfb

    @srgabrielfb

    2 күн бұрын

    You feed the snail.

  • @ItzCPU_

    @ItzCPU_

    2 күн бұрын

    You play and eventually you get your fox 3

  • @aniketdaptardar1

    @aniketdaptardar1

    2 күн бұрын

    You can't 😅

  • @keegangrant6571

    @keegangrant6571

    2 күн бұрын

    The only real way to do it is to approach within range of your dogfight ir missiles around 3km. To do this when you don't have chaff you need to take advantage of multipathing (stay within 60m of the ground). Watch out though many trees in this game can be as tall as 100m and they do not cause multipathing. In reality my best advice is to try to take advantage of multipathing by finding flat ground with few or no trees, or to place terrain between you and the missile. Its hard to get good results this way but it is possible good luck guys.

  • @takemikazuchishuichi2269
    @takemikazuchishuichi22692 күн бұрын

    2:45 this strategy wont work on F-4F ICE. The reason: 1. The plane cant turn and need more time to turn compared to other gen 4 fighter at those BR. 2. You lose a lot of speed and energy then become food for enemy plane who launch the missile and see advantage to execute you. 3. Your plane was garbage.

  • @ReviveHF

    @ReviveHF

    2 күн бұрын

    This is why light weight fighter mafia argued that excessive weight would have severely debilitating consequences on the maneuverability of an aircraft, F-4 Phantom was one of the overweight aircraft. So, they proposed fighters should be lighter and have better energy retention to do intensive maneuvers to counter enemy aircrafts and to dodge missiles. Hence, F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 were born to deal with the threats. On the other hand, now electronic countermeasures are getting more advanced, so it makes current fighters more fighting chance to deal with ARH missiles than before.

  • @JohnDegurechaff

    @JohnDegurechaff

    2 күн бұрын

    You've never played F-4E/F prior. 1- The plane turns really well, and is easy to defeat ARHs. 2- This is extremely false. F-4E retains energy rather well. 3- Also wrong.

  • @takemikazuchishuichi2269

    @takemikazuchishuichi2269

    2 күн бұрын

    @@JohnDegurechaff lol I have 7 F-4. 2 from German, 2 from Japan, and 3 From US tt. Wdym I never play F-4, I know all F-4 gameplay mainly the german one which is have better turn rate than other F-4. But at those BR face Gen 4 fighter make this plane become garbage. This plane have no different with flying casket at those BR. Your argument is only works for F-4 on BR 10 - 11.7 more than it this plane is garbage. Did you know at 12.7 this plane cant match the speed of gen 4 fighter. "Oh AV-8 amd Tornashit bla bla bla 12.7"... Cmon, those nation have better option who can carry 120s. And dont forget Av-8 being meme plane where it just hovering behind the mountain and launch the AIM-120 from short range.

  • @JohnDegurechaff

    @JohnDegurechaff

    2 күн бұрын

    @@takemikazuchishuichi2269 lol You claim to have played them yet lie about them. F-4F ICE is 95% of a Mig-29SMT at a lower BR.

  • @joshuanorton6097

    @joshuanorton6097

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ReviveHF its amusing to me how people still believe pierre sprey and his cronies, when they say they are the fathers of the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 when their only "proof" or "source" are what they say and a book that one of them has written lol. the fighter mafia's design proposals where all garbage and hence rejected, and they where not involved in the design of either of the above airplane. heck they even argued against them because all of those use advanced radar and fire control systems, something the fighter mafia despised. pierre sprey is a con-artist, dont repeat his bullshit.

  • @elkrumb9159
    @elkrumb91592 күн бұрын

    Finally, the F-4S grinders will know how to play their rank 8 jets!

  • @PvtPartzz

    @PvtPartzz

    2 күн бұрын

    No they won’t 😂 I’ll still get tk’d regularly in air sb br side they don’t know how to read the IFF in PDV mode🙃

  • @Idkwhattoput151

    @Idkwhattoput151

    2 күн бұрын

    @@PvtPartzzyou can lock on to tm in iff?

  • @Royalasiangaming

    @Royalasiangaming

    2 күн бұрын

    f4s has semi active radar missiles they are talking about fox 3 active missiles do u even know what ur talking about lol

  • @jedinight235

    @jedinight235

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@Idkwhattoput151Yes you can. Atleast with some jets

  • @TremendousTrash

    @TremendousTrash

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Royalasiangamingthe video is called “how to DODGE fox3s”

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE2 күн бұрын

    Please make the smaller team size toggle a guarantee instead of a chance. Some people are only getting smaller matches every 5th or 6th game at best and always at the highest lobby size of 12v12. I’ve had it on since patch day and haven’t seen a single match that wasn’t 16v16. When small matches like 8v8 become more common, this tutorial will become far more useful as messy overcrowded airspace becomes less common.

  • @HankHill1998
    @HankHill19982 күн бұрын

    "That's the neat part, you don't"- Omlet Man

  • @uranium3000
    @uranium30002 күн бұрын

    If you're head-on with an F-15 within 4 miles just accept your fate

  • @muratakcan1299

    @muratakcan1299

    2 күн бұрын

    WTH IS A KILOMETER

  • @srgabrielfb

    @srgabrielfb

    2 күн бұрын

    that's why you should avoid head-on's.

  • @Nokknokkopenup

    @Nokknokkopenup

    2 күн бұрын

    @@srgabrielfb your dead when a 120 is launched within 5kms not even in head ons

  • @uranium3000

    @uranium3000

    2 күн бұрын

    @@srgabrielfb you can't, but it's best to try

  • @srgabrielfb

    @srgabrielfb

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Nokknokkopenup lol AIM120A seeker is so week when trying to follow a plane that is notching. i already did. More easy than you think. Sometimes it piss me off. But i'ts A version so i'ts good enough

  • @ElderWillows
    @ElderWillows2 күн бұрын

    This is nice advice vs 1 single Fox-3. How do I dodge the 96+ Of them coming off the rails after take off? When can we see smaller lobbies as default for Fox-3 Jets at least. How about a new game mode? How about Enduring Air RB 8v8 or 10v10/12v12 below 12.0 lobbies? RWR Is barely useful in these 16v16 lobbies, there's a good chance now at 13.0 that 50+ missiles are live at all times in the first 5 minutes, your RWR is pinging random missiles from all directions, and again this is a problem of 16v16. Gaijin please make a new gamemode with less players and steer us away from ace combat simulator? You could make the gamemode loadout based people with Fox-3 and/or max limit missile loadouts go one lobby with less players? (Helps stock grinders) That way people who want big lobbys or a saner stock grind can play without Fox-3s or max missile count and do their thing, enjoy the furball.

  • @JohnDegurechaff

    @JohnDegurechaff

    2 күн бұрын

    There aren't 96 flying at you. In-fact, there's rarely ever 2 flying at you unless you intentionally bait for your friendly team. Go play arcade for smaller lobbies since you want Ace Combat.

  • @ElderWillows

    @ElderWillows

    2 күн бұрын

    @@JohnDegurechaff It's ironic that the guy who enjoys a 32v32 lobby with a clapback to my example of 96 missiles being the minimum that fully spaded 13.0 lobby will be carrying PER TEAM says I should go play ace combat. Whilst also being completely off my point rofl. Bro is finally good for an update because he bound TWS and pressed spacebar, got 3 kills and thinks it was skill.

  • @roketsnail34

    @roketsnail34

    2 күн бұрын

    solution: Huge maps so you have more space to dodge

  • @JohnDegurechaff

    @JohnDegurechaff

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ElderWillows 32v32 isn't a thing. Ace Combat is arcade, and low-player counts is arcade which is why Ace Combat PVP has low player counts. ARHs aren't undefeatable, never have been. I've yet to die to an ARH at 13.0.

  • @JohnDegurechaff

    @JohnDegurechaff

    2 күн бұрын

    @@roketsnail34 Already added to the game over a year prior.

  • @_skills1
    @_skills12 күн бұрын

    this video goes to all the f20 players🗣️🔥

  • @anxietygamingactual6554
    @anxietygamingactual65542 күн бұрын

    "Now, what about super-long-range launches, like from 20KM and further?" - The incredibly cramped / small air maps make so much sense now. Gaijin thinks 12 miles is "super long range"....

  • @Hurin170
    @Hurin1702 күн бұрын

    this is great and all but what happens if you are in a stock plane? and when you add in that there are 32 players with these missiles? lowering multipath without changing player count or the spotting system was a bad move.

  • @retardedpepega8831

    @retardedpepega8831

    2 күн бұрын

    They did lazily added an option that is nowhere mentioned. The legend says there was one 12v12 battle (wow only 24 planes each carrying 4+ FOX-3s) that did happen.

  • @yourfavoritepereh1268

    @yourfavoritepereh1268

    2 күн бұрын

    They made it an option to switch to 8v8 matchmaking if you want to

  • @Hurin170

    @Hurin170

    2 күн бұрын

    @@yourfavoritepereh1268 the switch that hardly gets any matches like that. air rb in top tier should be 12v12 by default, not 16v16.

  • @j100j

    @j100j

    2 күн бұрын

    @@yourfavoritepereh1268 It's 12v12 and I've kept stats on how often those games appear with the setting on. 106 games since patch. 12 of those were 12v12.

  • @yourfavoritepereh1268

    @yourfavoritepereh1268

    19 сағат бұрын

    @@j100j oh sorry, idk where I got 8v8

  • @phillyboy5773
    @phillyboy57732 күн бұрын

    You can dodge them by sitting on the runway for 5 minutes while everyone fires theirs off 😂

  • @TeamValkyrie2023

    @TeamValkyrie2023

    2 күн бұрын

    That's what I do. Or take off and turn 100 degrees around and "climb cold" until I get to 10000m before even thinking about looking for targets. That high it's easy to bleed the energy from most because 5 min in they're being fired from below by planes that started diving 3 min ago while I was climbing cold.

  • @humyHumsyong

    @humyHumsyong

    2 күн бұрын

    just side climb bro

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu2 күн бұрын

    Most people call it notching. Ive never heard it called 3/9 before WT official videos.

  • @toasteroven6761

    @toasteroven6761

    2 күн бұрын

    Well he seemed to speak of a more energy based approach to the dodge in that segment of the video, notching relies on exploiting old doppler radar single-axis velocity measurements, maintaining a constant radial distance from the radar emitter which can trick the radar into thinking you are at zero-velocity. This tech works best against stationary SAM site radars, as it is easier to maintain a notch for a long period of time when orbiting a stationary ground radar. This technique will not work well against pulsed doppler radar which can measure both distance and velocity at the same time. And will work even less so against Air to Air FOX-3, especially if the missile radar returns are combined with the plane's radar for tracking.

  • @gregc9344

    @gregc9344

    2 күн бұрын

    That’s because that’s not notching, notching is flying at 90 deg to the direction the plane/missile is traveling in and it’s almost never the same as 3/9 which is putting the missile at 90 deg to the direction you’re traveling in. Extremely important distinction

  • @esadkurt1095

    @esadkurt1095

    2 күн бұрын

    Might be a script created according to a one in russian (not necessarily translated).

  • @NyteStalker89

    @NyteStalker89

    2 күн бұрын

    That info wasn't leaked on their forums, so they didn't know the proper terminology.

  • @Pagan-71

    @Pagan-71

    2 күн бұрын

    @@gregc9344 They're both literally the exact same thing bro.

  • @INeatFreak
    @INeatFreak2 күн бұрын

    Nice, now show how to evade 5-6 of them at the same time on 16v16 matches

  • @Anti-Villain-Wolf
    @Anti-Villain-Wolf2 күн бұрын

    The problem is that, unless it's late game, you're pretty much never fighting just one missile, FOX 3 or not.

  • @ricofighter

    @ricofighter

    2 күн бұрын

    if you're constantly finding yourself in the way of multiple missiles being launched at you, you're the problem. go back to air to air basics

  • @ferrous3262

    @ferrous3262

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ricofighter ok mr 0-104 in the f15

  • @ricofighter

    @ricofighter

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ferrous3262 guess you can't be helped if you're trying to argue against air to air basics 101 to not make yourself a target. Besides that idk if you're looking up my profile or what, i don't play the f15, got to play in it a couple of times and never played it again so there goes your argument

  • @kRIEG_elf
    @kRIEG_elf2 күн бұрын

    Nice guide for 1v1 combat with competent air frames (i.e. not a Harrier). And you kind of ignored how some planes need to get well under 5km (because they don't have or even cannot have radar missiles).

  • @goliath3413

    @goliath3413

    2 күн бұрын

    in a harrier just VTOL and the radar literally wont see you cuz you're a stationary target lol

  • @StigmADiabolicuM666
    @StigmADiabolicuM6662 күн бұрын

    What if you are not alone in the game? What if there are 10 other players after you and all this maneuvering makes you lose speed or favorable position for you to shoot at them?

  • @tmo_117
    @tmo_1172 күн бұрын

    Don’t fly behind mountains and think you’re safe, it’s not DCS, sometimes they can track you

  • @dreccasawa9975

    @dreccasawa9975

    2 күн бұрын

    Depends. If you fly behind a mountain and then radically change course, the missile will continue to try to intercept your last known trajectory, thus you'll evade it.

  • @NGC2419-

    @NGC2419-

    2 күн бұрын

    @@dreccasawa9975 but they wont do that, ever, if you were to test that with a friend and then watch the tacview thing you'll see the seeker still tracks the plane through the terrain

  • @jarfmusic

    @jarfmusic

    2 күн бұрын

    @@NGC2419- Is the plane radar also still tracking though?

  • @NGC2419-

    @NGC2419-

    2 күн бұрын

    @@jarfmusic no, but the missiles is and most of the time you go behind terrain to mask a pitbull missile, which means that that pitbull missile is still tracking you.

  • @walkingpineapple4563

    @walkingpineapple4563

    2 күн бұрын

    Are you sure it’s pitbull? I’ve avoided missiles that were using a mountain and the lock breaks. There a chance the missile is still being guided by TWS track memory

  • @TheKaMeLRo
    @TheKaMeLRo2 күн бұрын

    Growling Sidewinder's videos had shown me enough earlier.

  • @savasolarov8424

    @savasolarov8424

    2 күн бұрын

    Tnx for the recommendation, I will go watch his video now. I forgot about his channel.

  • @harrisonsel34566

    @harrisonsel34566

    2 күн бұрын

    @@savasolarov8424yea he teaches a lot go watch his bvr fights

  • @PureRushXevus
    @PureRushXevus2 күн бұрын

    "You don't. thanks for watching!" (top tier went from horrible to unplayable with this update in my honest opinion, at this point I would REALLY like to see an IR-only gamemode. or at least make top tier matches 6v6 at most)

  • @ItzCPU_

    @ItzCPU_

    2 күн бұрын

    Can’t BVR, must use unflarable missile

  • @carsamba0055
    @carsamba00552 күн бұрын

    Meanwhile, you are still in a battle with more than 10 enemies, and rockets are flying towards you from everywhere

  • @aerocraft3377
    @aerocraft33772 күн бұрын

    This Update is very fun for the most part, Except when 7 missile form 4 directions come at you at the same time making it near impossible to notch them all at once, this problem would be rather easily fixed by having less people in each match. What was that? There´s an option to get smaller lobbies?! Oh, what a shame it´s only one in very 20-30 rounds too bad....... PLEASE making like 10v10 or 8v8 the DEFAULT and if someone should want 16v16 give them a switch to enable such matchmaking, but so far EVERYONE I´ve talked to hates 16v16s SPAMRAAM clusterfucks and would not mind waiting the extra 10 seconds in the "split"(large games and small ones) queue to get a fun experience.

  • @ItzCPU_

    @ItzCPU_

    2 күн бұрын

    Smaller games wouldn’t solve your problems, and keep in mind it’s the players that pushed for 16v16 games

  • @mores1729
    @mores17292 күн бұрын

    Missile so op that they had to make whole video about it. Jumbo

  • @HarveysAviation
    @HarveysAviation2 күн бұрын

    War thunder is one of the games where everybody plays the game the way its meant to be played. Which is rare nowadays in the gaming industry.

  • @LarySeeAircraft
    @LarySeeAircraft2 күн бұрын

    Reminder that some trees are taller than 60m and 60m is the altitude to multiparth (and the trees don’t count as ground multiparth)

  • @tetronaut88
    @tetronaut882 күн бұрын

    Please make all matches smaller at top tier; these may work if it’s only a few missiles but with teams of 12, each plane carrying about 2 missiles, that’s 24 missiles that are all flying towards you and your team. Many planes carry more than 2 as well, that number was just to average out the poor stock players who need to survive up there with no chaff or fox 3 missiles of their own.

  • @Desertsol1
    @Desertsol12 күн бұрын

    Are they only testing new implementations in 1v1 and not the totaly not-chaotic 12v12?

  • @Maxxx800ify

    @Maxxx800ify

    2 күн бұрын

    Probably, that would explain a lot...

  • @user-zy2nu7gk6i
    @user-zy2nu7gk6i2 күн бұрын

    we are getting basement guy and D point with this one!🗣🗣🔥🔥

  • @eliasl332
    @eliasl3322 күн бұрын

    About time for this video. Next: how to use Fox3 missiles.

  • @elitely6748
    @elitely6748Күн бұрын

    "Just Nothc and Chaff bro" Me trying to evade 3 Aim-120s, 2 MIrage's SARH's, and 4 more R-77s: *okay buddy sure*

  • @DrSmallarms
    @DrSmallarms2 күн бұрын

    Ive been using the 9&3 maneuver since patch drop to great affect

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep9102 күн бұрын

    1:43 From a Falcon BMS player: This process is called 'Notching'. You put the missile on your 3/9 line because missiles always fly an intercept path towards you from the moment they are launched. Doing this forces the missile to expend extra energy trying to lead you thus giving it a harder time trying to hit you. edit: 2:45 this is called dragging the missile and it only works if you have enough speed to even outrun the missile to begin with. There's a lot more to BVR (Beyond Visual Range) fights than what is explained here and it's a very interesting thing to learn about and I hope the more realistic tactics can be used

  • @TacticalEd
    @TacticalEd2 күн бұрын

    It is impossible to dodge 5 at the same time. REDUCE THE TEAM SIZE ON TOP TIER LOBBIES. PLEASE!

  • @WTclips001
    @WTclips0012 күн бұрын

    Me: How to notch Fox3 missiles? War Thunder: Yes

  • @TheJackSilence
    @TheJackSilence2 күн бұрын

    great advice for 1 vs 1 but this wont work for 16 vs 16 and the option for smaller rounds (6 vs 6) nearly never works.

  • @yoesoef4902
    @yoesoef49022 күн бұрын

    "you finally dodge the missile" teammate missile : "are you sure about that?"

  • @TofuBoy1
    @TofuBoy12 күн бұрын

    At least you released a tutorial, slightly easing the pain many people have already experienced with this terrifying missile

  • @FlirBlitz
    @FlirBlitzКүн бұрын

    So useful. If only trees were as small as the War Thunder devs's brains, and not 85 meters tall

  • @itsjustmenova
    @itsjustmenovaКүн бұрын

    Clearly not a single person who wrote this guide actually played the real game

  • @Juho-uf8si
    @Juho-uf8si2 күн бұрын

    maybe people will stop charging in and launching all missiles while flying straight into 3 ARH missiles, then joining a new battle to do it again and again and again. 3:15 actually learned a new maneuver, thx guygin

  • @savasolarov8424

    @savasolarov8424

    2 күн бұрын

    I know right, one would have never thought of that.

  • @Vip3r9710
    @Vip3r97102 күн бұрын

    What I found helpful is never go directly 90 degrees, never notched the ARH or SARH missle, so always make sure you go past 90 degrees.

  • @liormalka8246
    @liormalka82462 күн бұрын

    this only really works in sim. when i have 4 fox3s coming at me from different angles, and a whole enemy team waiting for me to get higher up, thats pretty hard to do.

  • @braedynhoward3644
    @braedynhoward36442 күн бұрын

    If you're close to the missile heading towards the enemy (since you probably are trying to guide your own missile), what I like to do anywhere from 15 to 25 mi. is to turn to the gimbal limits of the radar for a few seconds to save some time and bleed the missile, then turn upside down and start pulling towards the ground (losing altitude also helps bleed speed in thicker air, while your aircraft maintains its speed in a turn) until you reach the opposite gimbal limit (still in a dive), then break off and let your missile do its thing once it's gone pitbull, and turn away. Do a zigzag maneuver while flying away from the missile, and while gradually flying towards the ground. This almost always bleeds it completely. Then turn back in and gain speed and altitude. If you successfully bleed the missile before turning cold, then don't go cold. Often, if the distance is greater, you can crank from one side to the other of the gimbal limit whole decreasing altitude and maintaining lock, and if the enemy doesn't do the same, you either gain the advantage as they go cold, or your missile hits them while they fly straight and theirs misses. If you are very close, turn away immediately and either go cold if you still have some distance, decrease altitude and maneuver, or fly low to the ground, or try to notch (although notching is very risky).

  • @chimera2802
    @chimera28022 күн бұрын

    This is actually a good tutorial

  • @WalrusTemp
    @WalrusTemp2 күн бұрын

    They had to make this video because all the F-20 players were losing their mind cause they can't fathom turning 90 degrees

  • @locus-801
    @locus-8012 күн бұрын

    I Agree!

  • @simon2493
    @simon24932 күн бұрын

    With more missiles flying your way the only viable option becomes turning 180 with shallow dive and deploying chaff, assuming that on one was launching missiles form your rear 180 you will survive, but then if the enemy is persistent you won't do anything in the match.

  • @Thesnailhasmysoul
    @Thesnailhasmysoul2 күн бұрын

    When sales on PS

  • @Termii.

    @Termii.

    2 күн бұрын

    Never!

  • @tylerlee7925
    @tylerlee79252 күн бұрын

    This game went from actual skill wins to random luck. Ah yes let me climb so that I can just get slapped by sparrow or r27er missile while the radar ones are flying at me

  • @Maxxx800ify

    @Maxxx800ify

    2 күн бұрын

    Yes, its random luck.

  • @darkofmusic8801
    @darkofmusic88012 күн бұрын

    Thats cool but only works in a direct 1v1 situation. At the current state you dodge one missile BUT HEY there is another one from a completly different direction due to the 16v16 matchmaker. Fox-3 games should be limited to 6v6 at max.

  • @j100j
    @j100j2 күн бұрын

    I love how they just ignored multipathing which is still consistent if you just fly low enough.

  • @RhulkActual
    @RhulkActual2 күн бұрын

    “The missile knows where it is at all times”

  • @pffpffovich2398
    @pffpffovich23982 күн бұрын

    Just fix trees and make lobbies 6-8 max, that will fix 70% of trouble at least

  • @oofdotcom
    @oofdotcom2 күн бұрын

    okay but after doing defensive manuvers in the gripen you dont have the Thrust/weight ratio to continue on the aggressive after defending, bvr is quite a one trick pony for the gripen

  • @DrHundTF2
    @DrHundTF22 күн бұрын

    And what if I decide to utilize an aircraft with low stalling speed, high maneuvrability and an average speed of 250 km/h at ground level? Asking for science

  • @liquidator3828
    @liquidator38282 күн бұрын

    What about flying low to ground or flying low to begin with?

  • @srgabrielfb
    @srgabrielfb2 күн бұрын

    There 2 type of people playing RB, pleople that knows about BVR and loved the new update, and people that love furballs and multipath, Gaijin i'ts time to bring new Realistic game mode. I'm playing this game for 12 Years, and this game always forced you to learn about what are you doing. I'ts the realistic battles. But in the last years people that dont know and don't care what are doing is complaining about the game, making RB seems an better arcade mode. So it's time to give what they want. You can take the last update and make a game mode like that, and in the other hand give us more strategic and better objetives to play. I don't want to play simulator battles and buy joysticks for this. I believe in you Gaijin.

  • @user-mx1fq6qm6i

    @user-mx1fq6qm6i

    2 күн бұрын

    How tf did you play war thunder in 2010? It came out in 2012

  • @srgabrielfb

    @srgabrielfb

    2 күн бұрын

    @@user-mx1fq6qm6i Started to play at 2014*****

  • @aerocraft3377

    @aerocraft3377

    2 күн бұрын

    @@user-mx1fq6qm6i 2012 is 12 years ago buddy (yes technically WT has only been out for 11 years and a few months but you get the point).

  • @patriktoth6258

    @patriktoth6258

    2 күн бұрын

    You don't need a joystick... Especially in higher BR's. Just stick and cry about it

  • @user-mx1fq6qm6i

    @user-mx1fq6qm6i

    2 күн бұрын

    @@aerocraft3377 he originally said 14, but edited it

  • @sammycool4049
    @sammycool40492 күн бұрын

    Move the F-4F ICE to 12.3 PLEASE.

  • @j100j

    @j100j

    2 күн бұрын

    Is it not 12.3?

  • @sammycool4049

    @sammycool4049

    2 күн бұрын

    @@j100j It's a phantom at 12.7

  • @uyu3410

    @uyu3410

    18 сағат бұрын

    pfff , no. he got foxes also 😡😡

  • @AquaticCog
    @AquaticCog2 күн бұрын

    Interesting, if only i wasn't stuck in tier 5

  • @laszlocsendes4934
    @laszlocsendes49342 күн бұрын

    I use those tricks. Doesn’t work every time. What wouldn’t be a problem. The problem is my tws just drops the lock, and guides the missle to random previous positions. Even in head ons 10km pitbull range…. I often got killed while the trees scratch the belly of my plane… Sometimes fox 3 works sometimes don’t…

  • @ThePeanut999
    @ThePeanut999Күн бұрын

    That's some great beginner info. Now, what do I do about the 15 other missiles flying at me? Or should I just Chaff it out and I'll be fine?

  • @kashikaze9129
    @kashikaze91292 күн бұрын

    I use every one of these methods. The zig zag is amazing

  • @RaQic
    @RaQic2 күн бұрын

    Very nice video, more of these! :)

  • @user-fq8jl5ws2f
    @user-fq8jl5ws2f19 сағат бұрын

    War thunder i like the ghrapics so much and in the start where was the aircrafts? And how to even get jet fighters

  • @Lorbera
    @Lorbera2 күн бұрын

    Top tier has gotten more fun since the Fox 3 missiles. Fight me!

  • @devendoffing7004
    @devendoffing70042 күн бұрын

    Maybe y’all should fix the whole “16v16 matchmaking” problem so we could use these strategies reliably

  • @Gryfenfer
    @Gryfenfer2 күн бұрын

    The problem is on consol only probably, the flares are not working no matter what you do. I already try those method to avoid missiles and flares only working 1/4, when the ennemy on pc basically use 2 flare on mine to make them lost.

  • @pbluma
    @pbluma2 күн бұрын

    I've dodged quite a few missiles without knowing the names of the maneuvers. In Sim though, can't imagine playing the arcade modes, feels like a clusterf***. But the new 120 ones are a bit harder to dodge head on from like 3km.

  • @Dinktheboss
    @Dinktheboss2 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @dyren.
    @dyren.2 күн бұрын

    That's all cool basement guy, but what do I do when 10 are flying towards me from literally all direction?

  • @volfcz

    @volfcz

    2 күн бұрын

    I saw Fox-3 only from ground (not just there yet in jets), but isn't there also 16 targets for the enemy? So they should not all be running at you - or am I mistaken and three planes firing "dual tap" at same target, then multitrack to repeat this three times (6xFox-3), multiplied by whole team doing the very same?

  • @savasolarov8424
    @savasolarov84242 күн бұрын

    So, the Fox-3 introduction became such an issue that even the official content WT channel had to provide basic content about dealing with this issue. if this isn't some sort of admission that Fox-3s are somewhat of a "problem", I don't know what else is.

  • @linleesin
    @linleesin2 күн бұрын

    Thank you for teaching the basics to amateurs, and there will still be people complaining because they want to play stupidly in High Tier by headon in a straight line without learning how to position themselves. In a Ground match, any MBT that enters the open field and accelerates will die to a well-positioned enemy. Now I see many players learning to adapt, using the terrain, the mountains, the scenery to camouflage themselves. I loved seeing some games like this, and I believe that over time, fewer noobs will be in this BR. I would just like to see Air-Air matches like Groung-Air matches, where it doesn't show that the enemy has a red nickname. I understand this exists in WWII matches, but in next-gen fighter matches it's really annoying since Gaijin assumes all players are newbies. The game claims to be "Realistic" and in reality, there is no red marker enemy nickname. If the player wants to play with high BR, he needs to learn how to play. Use the radar, know how to position yourself, know how to maneuver.

  • @giddyup9591
    @giddyup95912 күн бұрын

    THE AIM120 is bugged it can track targets through solid terrain like they manuver when they can’t see the target anymore through 100m of rock

  • @breadloaf9716
    @breadloaf97162 күн бұрын

    Thanks gaijin for this wonderful information, now how do I deal with the other 99

  • @Thunderbox247
    @Thunderbox2472 күн бұрын

    too bad the F-16C doesn't have enough countermeasures for both Flares and Chaff, I still run out of flares occasionally, I tend to use multipathing which has mixed results (or catastrophic results if I'm stuck on some dumpster like Golan Heights)

  • @k4g6mw50
    @k4g6mw502 күн бұрын

    Note : those maneuvers are not for R-27ERs they have 3 times stronger seekers lmao

  • @TeamValkyrie2023

    @TeamValkyrie2023

    2 күн бұрын

    But the plane has to keep a lock for it to hit so while it's guiding its 1 missile at a time, they're sitting ducks

  • @Alisevenn13

    @Alisevenn13

    2 күн бұрын

    I never Managed to notch r27er in my life. It's extremely OP

  • @j100j

    @j100j

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Alisevenn13 It's not that difficult when you get it down. I once notched 2 in a single game. Although I wouldn't recommend notching unless absolutely necessary. Multipathing is way more consistent and easy to pull off.

  • @pbluma

    @pbluma

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Alisevenn13 You're bad

  • @CrispyMuffin2
    @CrispyMuffin2Күн бұрын

    What do i do if my RWR is literally unreadable from the amount of radar pings and missile launches? Not to mention the clutter from me passing through the beam of a tracking radar/missile Like you just cant make out anything And positioning doesn't do much. You can go to either edge, up in orbit or scraping the trees, rush straight ahead or wait for your team to die. Your RWR will always be full of noise unless your team already wiped the enemies

  • @Vigourous_matchmaking

    @Vigourous_matchmaking

    Күн бұрын

    Ratio and cope coldwat RWR copemaxxing

  • @Tauriboss
    @Tauriboss2 күн бұрын

    Hello Devs, with the current update you can really feel the age of a lot of air mode maps... Are you actively working to improve consistency of Radars regarding the ability to look&lock through quite the amount of hills/ is there patching planned for this ?

  • @TheOtherAviationGuy
    @TheOtherAviationGuy2 күн бұрын

    I’ll refer to this in several months when I get to top tier

  • @Toe1000.
    @Toe1000.2 күн бұрын

    Q: How do you dodge the Pantsir in top tier?

  • @TeamValkyrie2023

    @TeamValkyrie2023

    2 күн бұрын

    Don't get in cas in a ground rb and the pantsir can't hurt u that's how. If u want to fly, play air rb ab or sim

  • @goliath3413

    @goliath3413

    2 күн бұрын

    waste the energy of the missile, go right above the platform, dive down, notch

  • @ChrisVesgo
    @ChrisVesgo2 күн бұрын

    How do I stop the missile from tracking me through trees and mountains, Mr Snail? You know what I mean, eyberyone saw Defyn's video

  • @olikle92
    @olikle922 күн бұрын

    gaijin when will the summer sales be?

  • @GreyknightSEO
    @GreyknightSEO2 күн бұрын

    As a fairly new player, warthunder needs to listen to its community more. From the history of changes and stuff being added, it’s an unequal mess but still fun. I can see why most players prefer around mid tier combat. It’s a shame because the game could be amazing.

  • @garinpeyro
    @garinpeyro2 күн бұрын

    this wont work on 16v16 match. maybe in EC maps with all aircraft spawns spread out

  • @AddInfantryToWT
    @AddInfantryToWT2 күн бұрын

    What about fuel tanks? Will they also work like chaff?

  • @Exmiruz
    @Exmiruz2 күн бұрын

    Thanks now I'm ready to enlistment

  • @simoneguarise9012
    @simoneguarise90122 күн бұрын

    Yeah. Cool. Now make a video on how to dodge a back missile in a Sagittario, or in an Ariete

  • @oliverbruno8376
    @oliverbruno83762 күн бұрын

    Cool, now do It in the f104 s/asa

  • @toust3r203
    @toust3r203Күн бұрын

    Q: do you ever plan on adding dumping fuel while in the air?

  • @lionblocks
    @lionblocks2 күн бұрын

    How you can dodge the new missle: You cant 😅

  • @garrettmiller1355
    @garrettmiller13552 күн бұрын

    As someone entering the 10br range does this work against fox 1 missiles

  • @j100j

    @j100j

    2 күн бұрын

    Well, bleeding missile's energy works for any missile. Notching works only if they have PD radar (if they don't you don't need to notch you can just chaff) Also, the early fox1 slingers like the mig21 and the F-8E have pulse seekers on their missiles (R-3R and Aim9C respectively) so they go for chaff extremely easily.

  • @obamagameing8394
    @obamagameing8394Күн бұрын

    Turning in a f104.asa great advice gaijin

  • @emadyanni8360
    @emadyanni83602 күн бұрын

    thx

  • @roadkiks
    @roadkiks2 күн бұрын

    since the last update I did not had a single small teams match. D:

  • @kampsie1841
    @kampsie184121 сағат бұрын

    Yall should have added ECM with Fox-3 that F-104ASA is a joke why did you even include it 💀

  • @Excal500
    @Excal5002 күн бұрын

    Well made video, I hope the less knowledgeable in the community learn and get better.

  • @SOSASOHOT
    @SOSASOHOTКүн бұрын

    is it possible to let us change loadout at map screen to change loadout depending on maps

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