This is amazing! I didn’t know that this is possible! Might as well use it at night to not get nightmares every second to the toilet

don't listen to the clicking sound, listen to the feedback or echo

@TheRayerrr

10 ай бұрын

What does the echo sound like because i can just hear the noise i made

@OwnedRules

9 ай бұрын

@@TheRayerrr for beginners it's gonna be hard if you try it at home, so try it in an open quiet place, there you could easily hear the echo...

@xiao42

Ай бұрын

@@OwnedRuleshow come when I hear things on the right, he says it’s on the left, but when I hear on the left, it’s on the right

@tymmiara5967

Ай бұрын

@@xiao42 It would happen if you have your earphones/headphones put the wrong way round. Make sure your earphone marked L is in your left ear. Otherwise, this whole video will be completely confusing and non-immersive. You will experience cognitive dissonance and not learn anything. I did not occur to me that I should specify this

@jonathancarter5120

29 күн бұрын

@@tymmiara5967 It might be that you had the ear microphones flipped when recording the "echograph" because I experienced the same issue with left flipped with right, but only on that section, and I've checked my headphones are oriented correctly.

Oh my god, I can see, but I saw the difference in sounds instantly, the wall kinda sounds like a ping pong ball bouncing, while nothing is just the sound of the click and nothing else. I closed my eyes on every experiment then opened my eyes and rewatched when it ended, I was flabbergasted at the trees, I could hear a slight echo after the click and I could sense that they were moving, when I opened my eyes and saw them move where I heard them, it blew my mind.

I'm very interested in human echolocation, and would love to see more content on your exploration of it.

@Abizcool12

13 күн бұрын

The actual disorder is caused by having extremely good hearing, usually because of blindness or terrible eyesight, (like me) and causes you to be able to pick up more about sounds. I can tell based on where I hear the sound, how I hear it (disturbance, volume, etc), and how long it takes to determine my surroundings. The way sound bounces also helps. It starts out hard, but after years it becomes easier. I use toungue clicks to hear. Now I have glasses and just use it in the dark. I can see about 20-40 feet, depending on the noise level nearby and the volume of the clicks.

I don’t know why, but this reminds me of the game iron lung and how you try and locate things around you

@tymmiara5967

8 күн бұрын

@@Yosleco I just looked up the game and sounds like it's not that far-fetched of an association!

Now my ears will see more

Loved it Tym!! Absolutely fascinating. Was able to hear the alleyway compared to the wall very well.

@tymmiara5967

3 жыл бұрын

Cool! So you've got the edges. Could you hear the trees?

@matthewannett8874

3 жыл бұрын

@@tymmiara5967 Not as well. Much easier to hear a large flat surface than the trees. I've not advanced to that level clearly

@tymmiara5967

3 жыл бұрын

Fair, interesting! Trees take a while to learn, but this particular set of trees is the easiest I've ever found. You can try focusing on how a certain sound orbits from the right to left around your head as I turn towards them. A lot of the sound remains constant, but something changes. And these are the trees

Thank you so much Tym!!! You really help me for my school proyect 🦇

@SuperJSM

8 ай бұрын

Must be an interesting school project...

Blind since birth here, the bushes were to the left and just slightly back when you were facing the jbl directly. I could tell that the castinette was directly in front of your body and not off to the side because I heard no echo at all when you had your back to the bushes. I use my cane for active long and mid distance echoes, or slap my side at stomach level if I'm outdoors without my cane taking care of trashcans known across the pond as wheely bins. I've relied on the passive form since I was little when I didn't know what it was. It's the pressure you feel on your forehead/face when ambient sound or your footsteps or cane taps reflect on large barriers. A few times in the video I could feel a close up wall like that. I used to feel an invisible wall when I was a kid sitting between our great big 1980s era stereo speakers when Dad was blasting classic rock. I would move my head back and forth through the invisible wall. You can also feel a moving wall when you sit across a very smoky camp fire when the wind is blowing and there is a sound source on the other side of the fire. Apro po of nothing, It's possible to halucinate such walls while on LSD, tried that exactly once in my life. I didn't find out until my 20s about Dan Kish so I never developed it to the level of having the ability to ride a bike down the sidewalk or sense a light pole from more than 2 feet away. I did figure out how to make an extremely loud tongue click by basically sucking it to the midpoint of the roof of my mouth as hard as I can and slowly releasing it, but I don't find it all that useful in navigation, just fun to hear the longest echoes coming back.

@tymmiara5967

Жыл бұрын

I feel very privileged to hear your expert insight on the topic. I hope you enjoyed the realism of the binaural audio. I know good realistic immersive audio is hard to come by on youtube, so I'm trying to fill in the niche with some of my content. You are completely correct in everything you said about what I was doing in the video. Yes, if the castanet was held to the side, or even a bit further away from the body, we would have probably heard the echo of the trees also when not facing them. I made sure, for the purpose of the video, to hold it symmetrically. This actually isn't optimal in everyday echolocation, but there would be no way I could provide my audience with the details of both my head and my hand movements. It's interesting to hear that you don't find mouth clicking all that useful. People like Dan Kish are very big on it. Also, as much as I am enjoying my echolocation, I am always amazed and scared for the people who cycle without sight. It feels too risky

@patriciamedeiros7976

3 ай бұрын

How do u write

@HarpKoupenov

2 ай бұрын

@@patriciamedeiros7976there is an option where the keyboard talks back to them

I'm decent at outdoor echolocation, but at the moment I'm more interested in learning indoor echolocation: how to tell walls apart when they are too close for hearing echoes separate from the click? Also, have you noticed the "ping" sort of echo that comes from walls with vertical grooves? I find it pretty cool, when a wall has a lot of vertical ridges the echo comes back from each one of them and the way they interfere with each others results in a high pitch ping instead of a normal echo.

@tymmiara5967

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the chirping sound made by vertical grooves, like, especially in fences, is in a separate video, as you noticed already. For anyone else reading this, check out this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKebmpONnpbZYps.html

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I believe the bushes/trees in the exercise at the end were to the left. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I was able to pick up on 1 or two things. Hopefully, rewatching this a couple of times can make a few things more clear to me.

@tymmiara5967

Жыл бұрын

Well done! You seem to be the first person here to actually do this challenge, most people click away at this point in the video! Also, I think the best way is to try it yourself. Go outside, snap your fingers and train your hearing live.

@zile8869

Жыл бұрын

@tymmiara5967 Thank you! The problem im facing with doing it myself, for now, is that I'm still not sure how to make the clicking sound with my mouth. I can make clicks, but they are inconsistent and do not all sound the same. This makes it hard to pick up on specific differences in the sound and echos I'm hearing. At the same time, I'm not sure if my clicks are loud enough for me to notice subtle echos. But I'll keep practicing！Thanks a lot for your advice.

@tymmiara5967

Жыл бұрын

@@zile8869 I might do a video, hopefully soon, explaining how to start learning them, but I will admit it takes months to get them loud and clean

i couldnt do it by snapping or clicking with my tounge but i did it by stomping on the ground/wall with my foot/hand and i was able to see my room kinda clearly my feet were buned yesterday so i couldntreally do it with my feet but i was still able to navigate (i need bare feet to do it though) edit: i found out two ways to do it: first: listen for the echo of the sound second(the one that is easier for me): feel for the vibrations

@Ayhoomah

14 күн бұрын

it kinda felt like seeing with my feet and hands it was a weird but fun experience now noone will be able to sneek up on me

what is the name of the apparatus you were using to make the clicking sound?

@tymmiara5967

2 жыл бұрын

It's called a castanet. A pair of castanets is often used in flamenco dancing. But I can produce an even better click with my mouth. The substantial difference is that with castanets I am able to direct them independently of my head movements (e.g. backwards) which makes things easier, even though the sound is not a pure click.

@modo3702

Жыл бұрын

@@tymmiara5967 .

Hey can u make a video how to do mouth clicking? Idk how to do that

@tymmiara5967

Жыл бұрын

Sure, that is a nice idea for a video, but it will be quite difficult to explain and in any case, it took me weeks to develop the loudness and clickiness of the sound, so be aware that it is difficult

@modo3702

Жыл бұрын

@@tymmiara5967 Ok, I'll wait for the video.

I heard a bush to the front left in the test. :O Can you make anotherrr?

@tymmiara5967

4 ай бұрын

I certainly will make another, but I need to finish my PhD first, before I come back to making content. In the meantime, you can check out my full playlist on the topic of echolocation (displays at the end screen). There is one video where I echolocate walking in Malbork Castle and another video where I walk on crackling snow which is good enough for echolocation. Plus some other cool features!

@Brodmogel

4 ай бұрын

@@tymmiara5967 I wish the best of luck for you and I will certainly check the playlist out!

my memory is way too photographic so I have the image stuck in my head whenever I try

@tymmiara5967

8 күн бұрын

@@josepherer It takes practice to get used to this. I sometimes practice walking with my eyes closed most of the time and I only open them for a moment (let's call it an anti-blink) when I feel confused and worried I veered off. It started with me anti-blinking every five meters but I kept pushing my limits and gotten better at this. Now here the target should never be being able to walk indefinitely with eyes closed, because even blind from birth masters of echolocation don't do it without the aid of a white cane, but the more you push yourself the better your non-photographic spatial processing will be. It may be worth a try!

Can you still learn echolocation even if you have amnesia?

@tymmiara5967

Ай бұрын

Interesting question, actually. I don't know enough about amnesia (and I reckon there are multiple kinds of it anyway) for me to be able to tell. I think as long as your brain is capable of forming new pathways (learning anything), you can. But you made me wonder about whether echolocation can survive amnesia. Suppose we could control for someone's level of amnesia. Going from mild to severe, what skill would disappear first: echolocation or riding a bike? The colloquial phrase "muscle memory" (which obviously involves predominantly the brain rather than muscles) seems to resonate with me when I think of echolocation. Both riding a bike and interpreting the reverberations drift to the subconscious the more you practice them.

Yes sir I I am blind. my friend was not able to detect the wall left side when your facing that JBL. i was also able to detect the distance between trees. i think my mind has developed this as i have not seen the world from birth

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