The screw driver method has to be one of the best and cleanest ways to repair polyethylene that I have seen on you tube yet. Really liked the base material only perpendicular technique. Hats off to you bro Thanks and good job. There are alot of messy hack jobs out there. Torch and screw driver and a drywall mud bucket.👍👍

I've watched a bunch of repair videos and this is actually one of the best I've seen. Great job Pete!

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

THanks John... I've got a couple more coming where we look at a couple different techniques and test their effectiveness.

@youtrades

3 жыл бұрын

I fully agree!

@t_smith_rips_FPV

3 ай бұрын

Same here, nice work and thank you!

This is the most useful video ive seen in a very long time. thank you sir!

Brilliant. Practical, quick & easy, inexpensive repair solutions. I hope not to have need of them but I'll use them when the time (inevitable) comes. Thanks for sharing.

I have one of the original HDPE plastic kayaks from about 35 years ago which just cracked. This is the perfect solution...Thanks, as I was looking for a simple solution

Very well done 😊

That second addition really helped me thank you very much

This is awesome. We have a round hole in our Kayak, about 1/4 inch. I am going to try this today!

Very cool!! I picked up a ‘free kayak’ today...old pelican with a small hole in the bottom hull. I’ll be fixing that now with your method.

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Free and fixable are my favorite types of things! Good luck with the repairs!

This worked really well, I actually heated the base material as well with the filler material to help the fusion of the 2 bond thanks for the video

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Heating the base base material works well as long as you don't get the surrounding area too warm. When that happens the whole area starts to sag and distort.

These looks like you find the gold secret man! I will repair my kayak as you do, and will let you know what happened! Thanks for your experience here!!

Excellent, i mean 10/10 how to video. Great job.

Very clear and concise tutorial thank you

I love that you cannibalized the cockpit lip for material. Great video. Thanks

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rich! More for emergency situations... but it works :).

Excellent video, thanks!

Excellent!! Thank you!

Best repair video

Pretty slick, thanks for sharing

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great work there sir

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Manny!

I have a kit with a electric iron.. but... it gets to hot .. and will go right thru the kayak.. I like the screw drive with the torch.. as it cools.. much better control... thanks man.. I'm trying this today.. yup yup.!!

Good stuff man.

Best rep. video.

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andriy!

Thank you.

Thank you

Thank you 🙋‍♂️

Nice jop. I do it in the same way. At home i use an 40 W electric soldering iron with a nose cuted in a 45 degree angle. So i have constant heat. With greetings from lower Bavaria.

@huckfin1100

4 жыл бұрын

I would give you 3 thumbs up but !

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

SIONFNA, that's my preferred way as well! I'll be posting another couple of videos with other ways to repair kayaks, but I wanted to start with the cheapest method first. I like the plastic welding iron from Harbor Freight. We did do some tests with various 2 part epoxys as well to see which one held up best.

I hope this helps me out, I just ordered two lifetime kayaks and one arrived with scratched and some pretty deep gouges in it. I've messaged the shipping company and lifetime, but im still waiting on a response from both companies. I'd like for one of them to replace it, but seeing how everything is basically sold out, this may be the route I need to go. I've saved the cut outs from the scuppers and the discs from the storage openings when it was made. Figured I could use those to repair the gouges and still match the color.

Tip for welding thermoplastics, I learned that you can weld LDPE to a HDPE but not a HDPE to a LDPE. Cheers from East Canada.

THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO GLUE TOGETHER HTPE USING HEAT, BUT USE SHOULDIRING IRON , BUY EXTRA ROD AND SHAPE IT THE WAY YOU NEED IT..

Thanks for the video. I have a Jackson Tupelo and it has a small 2 inch crack near the keel. Was wondering if I should purchase a heat gun or a plastic welder. The crack is on the side of the rear keel.

I'm going to try it out. I was given a kayak that has a split on it. It's where the two pieces come together ( top part and bottom part ) I have two other kayaks and this is very good information on repairing them if I ever get a crack on them. My older kayak is about 10 years old and has some bottom scratches , but is still holding up . Thank you for this information and I will let you know if it works for me.

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Good luck Jimmy, hope it works for you!

Great and useful video post!! Thank you.

I picked up a cheap precision minnow kayak, but unfortunately it is cracked around the top rim. But it’s the best kayak I’ve ever paddled in. I love it. I’m hoping that this technique will work. Thanks

@davidreynolds4684

6 ай бұрын

If you find the plastic feeling frail as you begin repairing it buy some stainless steel window screen. Go to the inside if you can reach the area. If not do it outside on the damage. Use a soldering iron if possible. The wider the tip the better. Smoothe the damage with sandpaper. Clean it up and lay the screen over the damage. Use the heated tool to press the screen down into the plastic far enough so you can cover it with filler. After filling in use finer grit to smoothe the area so it doesn't have jagged or uneven edges for rocks and debris to catch and damage again. Make sure you cannot see any metal from the screen when you're done. Harbor freight has some cheap plastic welding kits that come with some filler sticks. I suggest you go online or hobby shops I use ww Grainger and buy the multi packs of filler rods. Nylon,PVC,PP,PE,ABS etc. They all are different colors. You need to use the same material for filler as the repair material.

@bronwynwake9216

6 ай бұрын

@@davidreynolds4684

If you add a hatch, don't throw away the cut out piece. You never know when you might need it!!

Could you also use an electric soldering iron to keep the steel constantly hot ??? A cordial greeting.

I'm sure the torch is farther away from the yak than it appears but at first I was waiting for it to start sagging then burn a big hole in it.

Good need to know info.

Could you use a soldering iron for your heat source

A question for you - would zip ties work as the repair material? They come in a variety of colours and are already thin.

Nice info!! Why not use a large soldering iron? I have a very old one that I use to for soldering wires, etc. Great video!!

@sandywilliams2836

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same... Anyone tried a soldering iron?

Could a soldering iron or wood burning tool be used in place of this?

The plastic melting kit works great. Just use a bucket instead of the plastic that comes with the kit

Very helpful video. Do you have objections to using a soldering iron?

@tomdarkart1

2 жыл бұрын

I use soldering iron with a flat tip and heat gun, also have different tips. Also pieces of a plastic 55 gallon drum which is HDPE

Can I suggest using an electric soldering iron.

Practical easy and cheap if not free!!! Was wondering how I would go about working towards fixing up my kyak that’s quite beat up. This is genius!!!! Now I’m wondering if I could use 5 gallon buckets, in large pieces to weld them to the keels on the ends to for reinforcement. Have to do some looking!

can you repair a seam using this method?.. I have a split in the seam of my pelican kayak,

to bond n mix together best shouldnt we heat the base material aswell? getting it as soft n sticky as we can without causing it to sag n loose origional shape

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

I've tried several different ways and once the base material gets too warm it sags so much that you can't press the filler into it. It's best to heat directly through the filler into to base material while keeping all the surrounding material cool so it doesn't deform.

A temperature controlled hot air soldering station would be much better for this. Set the temp for 140-150 C and start laying down material.

@northeastcorals

3 жыл бұрын

Just what I was thinking

@pfftwhut7638

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds a lot more involved

55 gallon plastic drums are hdpe. A whole lot of repairs in a 55 gallon drum.

What brand of filler material did you use?

Great video! Question: Using the method at 11:30 , I "cauterized" the cracks using the kayak's own plastic. Now that there is no gap, why/how am I welding in new HDPE? Why: Do I even need to since it is new sealed shut? If so... How: If there is no longer any opening to receive and be fused by the melted HDPE, what more must be done to render the repair finished? Thank you!

@caryverhalen

4 жыл бұрын

An extra piece of plastic for reinforcement is a good idea, as some of the material gets pushed inside the kayak. So a little more is needed on the exterior. Smoothing out gouges and cracks doesn't require extra material just the heated tip of an iron or screwdriver will do the job. I've even used the tip of a clothing iron to smooth out cracks

@simonmirsky3970

4 жыл бұрын

@@caryverhalen Thank you for replying to my inquiry. So you've sold me on the importance of adding supplemental plastic, but if the nature of welding is for the new material to be "sucked into" the opening and mine no longer has an opening (ie crack), am I simply melting this new material over the repaired crack, like icing a cake?

@caryverhalen

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonmirsky3970 Maybe? Personally I don't think it matters adding more material is just reinforcements. As long as it's not a big blob of it creating drag

@simonmirsky3970

4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Pete, can I get your advice on this question please?

@caryverhalen

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonmirsky3970 it's Simple Simon perhaps you're overthinking this.

Hi. Quick question. I am a small dinghy plastic boat with a hole. However I do not know if it is HDPE. Is there a way to find out?

I've seen a guy incorporate window screen--similar to the way one might use fiberglass fabric to reinforce similar repairs. Do you recommend this?

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

There's a steel mesh that can be used... I've got zngher video coming out soon with that in it.

dlaczego nie używasz do tego lutownicy elektrycznej z płaskim grotem ?

Think that Plastic Type work on a Plastic Bass Tracker Boat?

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it should. Those are also thermo-formed boats. Sundolphin actually used to make the boats for Bass Pro.

What about Pelican's Ramx ?

Have you tried a wood burning tool like crafters use to make wood burning pictures?

You make it look too easy. I totally sucked at fixing mine

Thanks! Genius! I have an older coleman with a round hole in the keel i need to fix. IT IS a 5905-719 model, IS IT HDPE plastic?

@leekeys1532

3 жыл бұрын

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@richardcorey9773

3 жыл бұрын

Coleman’s in green are HDPE

@jimsworthow531

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardcorey9773 Thanks

Soldering iron?

My Pelican Castaway kayak has 4 scupper holes that have maybe a 7/16 opening that allows water to come in. I am making a lot of mods during the summer and now that fall is moving in I was wondering if this method or something similar would allow me to seal those wholes so no water can get inside the kayak. My mods I have done this summer allow me to mount some electronics in my kayak but I am still just laying my phone down on the floor of the kayak and it has been getting soaked from the water coming inside.

@trustn01rs

Жыл бұрын

I know this is an old comment but, they sell scupper plugs to plug up the holes for extremely cheap

Try using a soldering iron, it's easier

You are still only melting the plastic to the surface you were supposed to heat up the kayaks plastic with the torch and it's supposed to still be molten and movable whenever you overlap with the new filler plastic you're also not supposed to clean this kind of plastic or any plastic with acetone it brings out the oils makes the surface weak and causes small microscopic cracks that you can't see if you don't believe me watch tons of videos on this matter from the professionals doing it. That's all they talk about in the precautions is use alcohol and not acetone if both plastics aren't molten whenever you are putting the new filler plastic on then you are still just putting the plastic on the surface. This might work for a small crack if it doesn't get hit in that spot and the surface plastic that you just put in crack off again but this would definitely not work for a big hole

Why not use a soldering iron?

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

This was just an example of one way to do it using simple tools that almost anyone has at home. I shot more footage for a different video showing other techniques that I'll be posting soon.

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

You deffinitely can. It's what I use most of the time. I just wanted to show how to do it with the least amount of specialized tools.

Will this work on a small crack in my HDPE hot tub? Crack is approximately 1 inch -1.5 inch Length

Do lighters work

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

I tried it just to test it as an "incase of emergence" scenario...it was really slow, but did work. I think I'd start a fire with the lighter and heat the screwdriver in the coals if I had to. Dont think theres enough fuel in the lighter to finish the job.😁

@survivalag2293

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@survivalag2293

4 жыл бұрын

I actually want to build a canoe from recycled crates and I wanted to see if I could patch it up

If you buy a plastic welding kit you will read where it says only melt the filler material not the repair. Well throw those instructions away. I've been welding plastic for 40 + years and with few exceptions the filler won't bond if you don't get the repair material gooey too.

Wont work. this method of repair needs to be avoided. It needs to be plastic welded. Plastic welding involves the intermingling of the polymer chains. you won't achieve this with this method.

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

It's actually a tried and true method for kayak repair... only difference is that typically people use a welding iron instead of screw driver. I was just showing how to do it with common household tools. We've done tests on several different types of repair and then torture tested them to see how well each method held up, so o know for a fact that this method of HDPE repair works. As long as you heat the filler material into the base material the repair will hold well. We'll have the video of repairs being stress tested up soon.

@davidbebarfald1747

4 жыл бұрын

@@PaddleandPole For a start the kayak is made of LLDPE or Linear Low Density Polyethylene not HDPE. you can't rotomould HDPE so unless your kayak was injection moulded which it wasn't it's LLDPE. Plastic welding or fusion between these two materials requires the intermingling of polymer chains of a similar length. The beauty of plastic welding when done correctly is that the hot air when it hits the material makes the polymer chains stand up and intermingle with a compatible welding rod. the two surfaces need to be scraped to remove oxidisation first. welding should be done with a Leister triac hot air gun. We have been repairing kayaks and many other things for 20 years and welding is far, far better than the mess you have created here!! Here is me showing off... kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYuoyc2FqdTRipM.html

@PaddleandPole

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidbebarfald1747 I appreciate your reply but you are incorrect. I worked for Hemisphere Design Works, the manufacturer of Sundolphin, Evoke, Viper and Future Beach kayaks. The resin used in these is HDPE. We also sold solid sheets of HDPE to Menards, which you can see that they sell on their website and are clearly labeled HDPE. Pelican kayaks are slightly different in that they use high molecular weight polyethylene for their kayaks instead of HDPE.

@davidbebarfald1747

4 жыл бұрын

Repairs will only work if welded. your repair is sub standard. I am a fully qualified full time plastic welder with all the training. i have completed 4 certificate courses in plastic welding, materials identification, chemical bonding and thermosett plastics. i have over 3,000 customers and repair kayaks, water tanks, motorcycle fairing, bumper bars, playground equipment and many many other plastics. i am a fully qualified panel beater and plumber. i do confined space entry work as well. I am the leading plastic repair expert in Australia. We just completed repairing two 10 million dollar wire galvinising tanks. we recycle over 900 tons of plastic each year simply be repairing it. All the sub standard repairs on you tube are harder to do than just welding it!! So buy the gun and i'll teach you how to weld Kayaks properly. you are damaging the plastic by heating up a screwdriver when you put that on the plastic it's too hot and sweats the plasticiser out creating a weak point, you aren't intermingling the polymer chains so your repair won't work. There is also problems with oxidisation and the material you are introducing, also color isn't right!! I can help you do it properly if you like? it's easier and far, far better.

@gamehunter3985

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidbebarfald1747 I wish you could show me. I just found a plastic paddle board I want to convert into a fishing vessel that has a 4 inch gash in the bottom.

Won’t work, everything you are doing here is wrong. And I can prove it.