How To: Double Grind / Slide and Side Pop in Session
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An in-depth tutorial on how to choose which side of the rail or ledge you pop over to AND how to do Double Grinds / Slides in SESSION v1.0.
Timestamps
0:00 Double Grinds and Pop Overs
0:06 Choosing What Side You Pop Over To
3:11 How To Do Double Grinds / Slides
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Here are the official JL Nightmare Settings with Number Values
Stats are numbered 0 - 20 | 10 is Default
GRAVITY = 13
PUSH FORCE = D 10
MAX PUSH SPEED = D 10
FOOT BRAKING FRICTION = 14
BANKING / TURN RATE = 0
CROUCHING BANK RATE = 4
POP BOARD TO BODY DISTANCE = 8 Boost for Hippy Flips
LOW POP HEIGHT = 4
HIGH POP HEIGHT = 8 - 10 varies depending on Skate Spot
GRINDS POP HEIGHT = 6 - 10 varies depending on Skate Spot
MANUALS POP HEIGHT = 6
BODY ROTATION RATE = 12
BODY ROTATION FRICTION = D 10
IN-AIR BOARD ORIENT SPEED = D 10
FLIP SPEED = 8
FLIP FRICTION = D 10
SCOOP SPEED = 11
SCOOP FRICTION = D 10
GRIND FRICTION = 8
GRINDS ROTATION RATE = 16
POWERSLIDE FRICTION = 5
BOARD CONTROL SIDE IMPULSE = 12
BOARD CONTROL EXTRA PITCH = 16
BOARD CONTROL EXTRA SCOOP = D 10
BIG DROP MAX HEIGHT = D 10
PUMPING IMPULSE MULTIPLIER = 15
MAX SPRINT SPEED = D 10
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INPUTS HAVE CHANGED FOR SIDE POPS: you no longer push the stick Straight to the side to setup in the pocket of the nose or tail to do Side Pops. it is now DIAGONAL input to setup. this only applies to side pops on flat and not side pops out of grinds or slides. this video fully explains the new change kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZah08Ofl6W3l6g.html
man, this is probably one of the best tutorials i've ever watched, even outside of session. no big talking around it, just straight up showing how to do it. thank you, keep the content going! :)
@jonnie2bad
Жыл бұрын
the source to learn fundamental mechanics of the game
@DD-rh2sz
4 ай бұрын
I just wish I could do it despite having the ideo right in front of me showing me how to do it LOL
The grinds in this game are so sick. Everything down to the little details like weight distribution. You can tell the devs are seasoned skaters.
Slowing down and showing the controller is HUGE! I’ve seen many vids on how to do this, but it’s hard to watch the trick and inputs at the same time on full speed.. Very helpful!
Your tutorials are by far the best ones on the entire internet. Sometimes I had a hard time to cleanly pop over the side I want, now I understand better the mechanics so thank you!
I think it’s hella cool and so well deserved that you became part of the creative team cuz you hard carried the session community with guides and how to videos so GG and I can’t wait to see what yall got cooking up for us
Perfect timing! I was just trying to figure this out an hour ago, searched for a tutorial and here you are! Awesome as always, Jesse!
THANK GOD. Ive been stuck on the Torey mission in SF for awhile now.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
And you’re In luck cause I teach the exact trick that is asked for in that mission :)
@TheDarthRoacho
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare it was a forehead slapper when I saw it! Lol
@CollinDoty08
Жыл бұрын
Right I was stuck on the bones mission with a flat bar bind that you have to clear a gap to a drop I couldn't beat it and Ididnt know you can change your pop height your a goat and so much needrer
These tutorials you do are always great! This video along with the lip trick tutorial really help.
Great tutorial man!! im really good in Skater Xl and just got session. i could not figure out myself how to do double grinds! Amazing tutorial, exactly what i was looking for!!
I was just starting to get into this, and was not sure how to do the low pop... thank you! Always teaching us!!
I am just getting serious with Session (spent the last year really focused on Skater XL) and after getting past the learning curve I'm absolutely loving the hell out of the game and how much control there is. That said, I really wish I would have stumbled across your videos a year ago when I gave Session a try and couldn't get to grips with it.
I needed this video. I always thought you had to keep the input in the grind while trying to pop out. This is a game changer.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
You can hold the grind input then pop out, it’s just when you want to choose the direction you want to pop over that you need to let go of inputs first.
@dproredpilled
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Thank you for that. I really can't wait to get my technical with my clips. And side note JL, I saw you in Garrett's stream the other night, and your two discussing trying to stream. Just know you are valued and so much appreciated to not only me but so many more.
Very clear explanation! Have my thumb 👍🏻
Finally ) waited for a new video since the last ends 😊
Your a savior to the session community
Thanks for sending me to this updated video!
great channel man
man it amazes me just how much you can do in this game
Hell yeah thank you so much
love the tip ! tanks and love for th2 menu song love it loll
sweet i was struggeling with this thx man
Dude, your videos are straight up mandatory for anyone diving into Session. Thank you for the work you put into these!
Thank you 🙏
Great tutorial!
you goated I can't lie I was already good now im goated
Youre the man.
holy coww Bruh i was doin the grind 2 grind mish i came straight to this vid nd got it done
Just as someone said yesterday on a Garrett’s stream, “it looks like JL knows lot more than Session’s developers” 😂👏 Pretty cool actually 👏
Dude, this is just what I needed. I've been trying to figure this out. Perfect explanation! Thanks
What a great tutorial! Helped a lot.
Dude how long before crea-ture studios officially adds you to the team 😆
Thanks for this. Been playing since beta and still never figured this out. Maybe because I never tried because it's nothing I did in real life besides smith/50s and feeble/50s
Really cool changing the angles of a great grind on the rail
hugely helpful! the slow-mo controoller view is great. any tips for getting down the Jerome Banks from top to bottom?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Small Powerslides in between the banks / sets will help slow you down so you can get control before the next trick
I would enjoy watching you skate a virtual contest!
Great tutorial man. Even as a Self proclaimed “pro” at this game, I still fumble on double grinds. 😂 Lemme make you some Trucks! 🌙🗡
Man i thank you very much for these tutorials!
Hello JL Nightmare. Really Thank you for this tutorial, it helps me a lot!!!! I love your channel & your content.
I just need a good tutorial how to align myself for grinds and slides, this thing eludes me.
I've been struggling with these mechanics for a while and I imagine I'm not the only one so this is great, thanks!
Sick gonna take a lot of time learning crazy shit.. I still can't get down pumping. I'd love to do some double grinds at FDR. I still don't get it even after your tutorial.
Goddamn that low pop looks graceful af
The nose slide to crooked would not work for me until I turned down the low pop height, otherwise it just pops you out of the trick instead of bumping into another grind, great tutorial the game just got so much more in depth
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
You don’t need to change the low pop height, you just need to do the baby pop by pushing the back foot the same direction as the front foot. I did the tricks with default settings so that everything was the same. But glad you were still able to get it
@setsuzoku8296
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare I have been able to do this trick(nose slide to crook maybe twice). I have agonized over the settings and the video you posted it won’t even let me do the trick in default settings .
Thank you! Anyway you could make a in depth tutorial on smiths and feebles? They are the only grind that makes me want to bash my head against the wall.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Already did long ago ;) it’s still accurate for 1.0 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fWltwc6KYtSWmbQ.html
Such a clean tutorial. Now if only this was as easy as you make it look lol
This games so fuckin complicated and I love it
hi dude i really appreciate your videos, specially the long tutorial one, it really helped me progress in this game. my main target atm is gettin 180 ollies on to a rail and grind away. for whatever reason i just cant do it specially if it has to be a 50-50 like in the "cut off rail" mission. can you help me out there and probably show us how to do it - input mode is left/right foot
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
this should hopefully help: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKiuydSuedOufZM.html
@23tenaC23
Жыл бұрын
ooo youve already done this - shouldnt be surprised by that. keep up the good work you dping great mate 🤙
omg god
Hey switch my setting to exactly your the one u did the video on and the game is soooo much better! Just started playing Can u tell me how to pop out of grinds for ps4
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
This video explains how to pop out of grinds for Every platform that session is on (ps4 included)
hey man can you help? when I try to double grind example 5.0 to nosegrind or vice versa, it always kinda glitches and reinputs same trick. so if I push up to nosegrind, release all input, input to Nollie and then hold down for a 5.0, it just nosegrinds. any ideas?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Back foot stick down for the 5-0, then let go of the input, reinput back foot stick down then flick front foot Up, let go of the inputs while you are in the air then reinput front foot stick Up to Nosegrind. It should not be going back into the same grind. Watch the break down parts in the video very carefully and try to copy it
@PlonkerConka
Жыл бұрын
@JL Nightmare Thanks for the reply. I actually figured it out. I turned off "casual grinds" and then used the exact same method as before and it worked fine, so I assume trying to make life easy was making life harder 🤣
I have a really strange issue with nose slide to crook, for some reason when I low pop from the nose slide to the crook, my character just turns to jelly and bails. Been trying that combo for the last 3 hours and even when it's perfectly locked in and I'm putting in the input, my character just falls. Tried with both upwards and diagonal inputs and no hope. Is it something to do with my settings? I play on default but I'm wondering if there's another setting.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Do you have skater Physical Animation enabled in the Experimental Tab? If so, disable it and give the trick a try. I have it enabled and don’t have issues but that’s the only thing I can think of without seeing a video clip of your attempt and without seeing what inputs you’re doing
@foxzi-yt8623
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Not sure how to show you my inputs but I can get a clip for you! Is there a controller overlay option in session? Also thanks for replying so quick. 😂
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
No controller overlay within the game but if you’re on PC and know how to setup OBS Studio to record, you can use this gamepadviewer.com/ Or have session in Window mode and shrink the window enough so you can see both gamepad viewer tab and game screen on one screen. As long as you copy exactly what I do in the video it should be working, I get it pretty consistent now without issues like you’re describing (perhaps one setting I have different from yours is No Release grind setting.. if you’re not set to No Release, then set it and try again.
@foxzi-yt8623
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Life saver! The no release worked, I was so confused, thank you so much!
Do you have any tips for locking in to grinds consistently? Like I either overshoot or don’t make it to the ledge. I’ve messed with side impulse, angles, everything I can think of. I’m so inconsistent. How do I hit it perfect every time? 😩
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
you really just need to practice. i've been playing this game for 5 years, so im very used to how things work, what angles i need to go at and how to adjust while im in the air if my angle is a bit off. to help with things, you can boost your Grind Alignment all the way up, that will keep you in grinds without slipping off. you can also turn on Casual grind mode.
Well, I never knew this! Are there any advantages to having trick relative input ON?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
No advantages, just personal preference
Why is it when I try to side pop it just ollies the exact same as if I were to hold down/flick straight up?
@JLNightmare
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like you don’t have Board Control set to Manual in the flip trick settings. Change it from Auto to Manual
Any tips for landing on grinds easier? Just experience or any hidden setting? Also i have bought the game before 1.0, what dlc do i receive and how do i claim?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Turn grind alignment to MAX, that will help you stay in. To get in takes practice. Also not sure why some people haven’t been getting the pre-order DLC on PC like they should (I did t get mine despite owning it for years before 1.0) some got it automatically. Not sure I can help with that since I’m in the same boat lol
i can’t seem to get nose slide to tailslide consistently idk what i’m doing wrong i can only do it sometimes
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Takes a lot of practice and getting to know how the game works
The directional pop on flat ground works for me, but I can't seem to get it to work out of a grind. Is there some setting that could be messing this up?
@JLNightmare
3 ай бұрын
No setting, just make sure you Fully release sticks then reinput the popping foot in the direction you want to pop to before flicking the other foot
@kmg495
3 ай бұрын
@@JLNightmare Idk, I still can't seem to get it to work for me. Does grind input mode matter? Right now, mine is on "No Release" .
@JLNightmare
3 ай бұрын
@@kmg495 I use no release also and it’s working just fine. You just have to make sure you fully release the sticks mid grind before you reinput the direction you want to pop
you should be on the payroll, this is bonkers
I couldn't get it to work until I have no release on in grind options... I swear I could do it before partial release on but I did I different.. I tried for a hour today and everytime I got into the crooked it wouldn't grind.. as soon as I turned no release on I could easily do it everytime
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
With no release, you don’t have to release the input to do the next grind. With any other setting you do need to fully release the input (partial you only need to release if you’re doing anything other that an up or down input) you’re probably used to not having to release sometimes, that’s why the other ones aren’t working for you but no release is
@eternalrewind2190
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare I was able to do them fine a week ago.. I tried them your way today and did it exactly as you but the grind wouldn't grind. It's buging out on ps4 for me... it's not hard to input. I couldn't get them to work the way I was doing them before either.. it's a pretty easy trick. Something happens in the settings that bugs it out
I know this is an old video, but when is multiplayer coming? Like best trick(realistic) and like best run battles? It can be done. I don't edit or take time doing so but I feel like how I play with Sessions.. I could do something with it lol. I do play mainly on Xbox X Series but also have the PC version from the beginning. Help a fellow skater out :-)
The THPS 2 Menu track 😅
Hey, I'm having trouble with the advanced flip trick challenge, I've checked off every box but when I get to bs 360 and fs 360 I do both and nothing happens, am I missing something ? If anyone could help I'd appreciate it bc it's getting frustrating, can't tell if it's a bug or if I'm just not doing something right.
@DorienKalifornia
Жыл бұрын
Make sure they’re done on flat
@simulatedthoughts3556
Жыл бұрын
@@DorienKalifornia that did it, appreciate the help!
Hardest part for me rn is the timing to get ON the ledge haha
Jesus christ I didn't know about this
I have a question, when ever I try to pop out of a 50-50, regardless of what side I choose and how high my grind pop height is, the back truck taps the rail on the way down like he won’t pop far enough away from the rail to cleanly land it. Any thoughts?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Are you using the trigger in the air to turn just enough to avoid hitting the back truck? Honestly I would have to see what you’re doing to be able to figure out why it keeps hitting, but try using the trigger to straighten out for the landing
@URBONED
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare it’s weird, I can keep it fairly parallel to the rail or turn fairly sharp (which doesn’t look good) and I’d say 90% of the time will tap the rail on the way down regardless. The only times it won’t is if I’m not locked into the grind properly. Only does it with 50-50s.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Have you changed your gravity? Like do you have it set really high?
@URBONED
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Hmm that could be it. I’m pretty sure it’s only 2 or 3 notches below normal though and I countered it by raising my pop heights so it’s pretty much standard, it just looks less floaty IMO.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
I have mine set to 13 (3 above default) and don’t have issues 🤔 I was thinking you had it set to Max or something. Really not sure why 5050 is giving you issues
I’ve played 7 hours and watched every one of these videos and I still don’t even understand how to pop out of grinds let alone pop out and into different ones lol. This game feels more like a Russian flight simulator than a skateboarding simulator
The directions doesn’t work for me i want to ollie to right and left but it doesn’t work is there any think to turn it on in the settings?
@JLNightmare
6 ай бұрын
Did you enable Board Control in the flip trick settings?
@IRed_69
6 ай бұрын
@@JLNightmare thanks dude u helped me i was playing on auto all of the time 😂
This game sometimes. Cant for the life of me manual the 3 pads for the mission but ill somehow darkstall a QP and flamingo out and land it.
@JLNightmare
11 ай бұрын
Just before you pop out of the first manual, pull back foot stick all the way back then flick front foot to get a good pop. Release both sticks while in air then reinput back foot stick half way down before you hit the second manual pad. Repeat the process to get onto the 3rd manual pad then do a flip trick out
Oh lord - can't get this side pop to work
bruh what is that sick volcom shirt
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
It’s a giant eagle (it looks like an Anti Hero x Volcom collab but it’s not) I won it during Volcom Wild In The Park and have never seen this shirt anywhere else.. not even a photo online.
While practicing I have difficulty grinding on the rail or ledge for more than 1 to 2 seconds. What's your secret to grinding so steadily as you've done here?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Takes practice to learn how to lock in. To make things easier while you learn, boost the Grind Alignment in Grind Settings.
@adlsfreund
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare ok, thanks! i think it could help a lot to play this game in VR some day...
Can anyone please help me, no matter what I do I can not side hop or directional hop whatever it’s called. Is there a setting to turn it on? What am I missing 😩😩😩
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
On flat? You have to turn on Board Control mode (set to manual) in the flip trick settings
@Vince-jy8fd
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Ok I just figured it out, you’re a life saver!!
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Did you change anything in advanced settings? (Specifically Board Control Side Impulse?)
directional pop doesnt work for me no matter where i place the foot idk why
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
if you mean on Flat, you need to enable Board Control in the flip trick settings. in grinds you just have to make sure you fully let go of the inputs before reinputting the direction you want to pop
@kamilberys4843
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare yes flat now it works thank You :)
I just hate that if you use relative input and use the trigger to rotate into a slide it cancels it, and you have to input like you don't have it on. It gets me all mixed up when trying double grinds.
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
You just always gotta think of it as Stick relative and almost ignore what’s on the screen. For sure needs work tho
MrBallen at home
What map is that
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Highline bridge for the first half of the video and San Fransisco for the second half. (Very first clip in the video was at Jerome Banks) all maps in this video are in the base game and Not custom modded maps
@joelbartor
Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro that video was incredible, I didn’t know you could be this technical with grinds / slides. I got the game 2 days ago and played 15h , I struggled at first but now I’m getting good on flat / manuals , but I very much still struggle with slides and grinds ( I really struggle to arrive to the obstacle at the right angle and pop at the right time) do you have any tips for that ?
Hah i'm having trouble with feeble and smith grinds... My guy just do a 5-0 or won't do anything??
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
you need to make sure both sticks are pushed inwards or outwards. this video should help, even though its slightly old, its still accurate kzread.info/dash/bejne/fWltwc6KYtSWmbQ.html
@p1rz666
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare Thanks again! :)
It doesn't work for fornt foot back foot
@JLNightmare
5 ай бұрын
Yes it does, works for all settings.
@LIQUID.Yokey.
5 ай бұрын
@@JLNightmare it didn't work for me tho
@JLNightmare
5 ай бұрын
Are you fully releasing the stick then reinputting the setup stick to the side? Also do you have Manual Board control enabled (this only affects side ollies on flat)
@nawtzs7792
Ай бұрын
@@JLNightmareyou should tell us to put that setting on in the video like at the start :)
Well, I suck at this game LMAO.
This is why Tony hawk was so great. Even with the unrealistic flying, the controls were intuitive. This is nonsense man
I just don’t get it man. Doing pop shove it’s or just shove it’s are IMPOSSIBLE to do out of grinds or slides. It’s so annoying.
@jameztshirt8535
4 ай бұрын
You can mess with the slide friction and grind pop height to fix that!
i can’t be the only one where none of this makes sense? i seriously do not get it
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
You let go of inputs, and reinputting to the side you want tells the game that’s where you want to pop to. Grind input, Let go and reinput left will pop you over left. Let go and reinput up will pop you straight.. etc.
Damn bro bro. Slow down a little bit. I can't understand what you're saying
@JLNightmare
11 ай бұрын
You can slow down the video on KZread in the video settings
when i try the stick motions you're using i just angle the board that way instead of actually popping sideways, any other tips?
DO YOU HAVE A REAL JOB? WHERE DO YOU FIND TIME TO DO THIS AND PAY RENT?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
Making my videos plus editing for someone else pays the bills ;) editing is a real job, I quit a shitty… what people call a “real” job… to do what I enjoy full time :)
@josephohara6588
Жыл бұрын
@@JLNightmare that's awesome man editing is alot of work. What has the other job? You get out to skate often?
@JLNightmare
Жыл бұрын
I worked overnight shifts at Walmart for 12 years. yeah I’m able to get out and skate a lot more now :)