How To Do The "Overpowered" China Strategy

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  • @pierceotoole3080
    @pierceotoole3080 Жыл бұрын

    The shift adding the barracks to the archery range blew my mind! (Also cheeky little sheep rush back to the base with the house!) Love it!

  • @TkTronixYt

    @TkTronixYt

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually never knew that. I normally have barracks on 5, stable on 6 and archery range on 7 with every civ. This looks way more efficient combining them

  • @Kwambomb23

    @Kwambomb23

    Жыл бұрын

    same

  • @mastaaceexclusive

    @mastaaceexclusive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TkTronixYt how come u dont use the f1 or whatever. In this game u need 4 groups for units Sc2 i had that kind of setup.

  • @BuggyDClown-pc7sc

    @BuggyDClown-pc7sc

    Жыл бұрын

    All the tips shown here is not possible to do in a ranked

  • @achyutrastogi8080

    @achyutrastogi8080

    Жыл бұрын

    How are you able to pause and interact with villagers??

  • @blackwolf823
    @blackwolf823 Жыл бұрын

    Some incredible hot tips in this vid! Thanks Drongo! I didn't know about the mixed rack/archer range control group

  • @scottcairns2933
    @scottcairns2933 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic content mate THANK YOU! I’ve actually opened AOE4 for the first time in months thanks to this video.

  • @demanager0412
    @demanager0412 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back Drongo, you and the Legacy team did an awesome job!

  • @Imperiused
    @Imperiused Жыл бұрын

    Damn, this build is slick! Very useful tips. I'll certainly be watching this more than once and taking notes!

  • @scottwright1799
    @scottwright17996 ай бұрын

    Went on a 6 game win streak with what you said man. Big up and respect bredrin.

  • @tjnor23
    @tjnor23 Жыл бұрын

    this was very helpful! great video , thank you ! keep up the great work

  • @bryang6675
    @bryang6675 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks I was just thinking about going China and was looking for a build order 👍🏻

  • @Matteo_aoe
    @Matteo_aoe Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to seeing you play and stream or KZread-upload this build 💯

  • @warptime8903
    @warptime8903 Жыл бұрын

    Just won 2 ranked games with this build but I am still not perfect with the timing. Nice one!

  • @ethanwheelis3872
    @ethanwheelis3872 Жыл бұрын

    This strategy is slapping rn in ranked! Thanks!

  • @WHVII
    @WHVII Жыл бұрын

    “ you gotta have a math degree to start with China”😂 right, right

  • @leosc2581

    @leosc2581

    3 ай бұрын

    HAHAAHAHAAH

  • @co2bazillus420
    @co2bazillus420 Жыл бұрын

    Gonna try this today thanks :)

  • @plowXgcod
    @plowXgcod Жыл бұрын

    Love this. Thanks drongo!

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation of the control group "QR codes" hehehe

  • @bullockclive
    @bullockclive7 ай бұрын

    A question for A-drongo - what PC setup are do you use? would be great to see a spec review and maybe you could talk about why you picked what? - video idea?

  • @Calebol04
    @Calebol04 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing guide thx!

  • @mikegamerguy4776
    @mikegamerguy4776 Жыл бұрын

    Guys I know it goes in the face of every rts that has come before but just use F1 and Tab. You won't lose any buildings. You free u a control group if you have a way to use all ten of them. I wish I could have more control groups. I use a 12 thumb button mouse for everything. But that control group trick is really cool.

  • @Questionmarc1
    @Questionmarc1 Жыл бұрын

    7 wins in a row. after practicing for a few runs and getting the build order internalised... havoc it is!

  • @onijabroni1822
    @onijabroni1822 Жыл бұрын

    This is why I love Drongo!

  • @jeevak840
    @jeevak8402 ай бұрын

    After getting beaten by the Intermediate AI for so many times now, I defeated them on the first try. Looks like the only mistake I was doing is to not make use of the best strategies with each Civilisation. Feels so good now.

  • @ganknujnal
    @ganknujnal Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this amazing guide! Why do we need to leave one space out from Academy?

  • @geoffreyfook9735
    @geoffreyfook9735 Жыл бұрын

    how do you blueprint your building without moving a villager like that ?

  • @sgod4538
    @sgod45388 ай бұрын

    is it still up to date this song dynasty rush etc? or did it gotten nerfed over time?

  • @YourTamedLion
    @YourTamedLion Жыл бұрын

    Pls do more of these 😎👍 So nice to know what ppl are likely to play and exploit it 😇

  • @brandon8667
    @brandon866724 күн бұрын

    This still good in season 7? If so ,do I delay the IO like what we’re doing now.

  • @cedriccoronel5716
    @cedriccoronel5716 Жыл бұрын

    by 8minutes, HRE all in is already swarming you with MAA, Archers & Rams w/ full blacksmith upgrade LOL

  • @CouchTomato87
    @CouchTomato87 Жыл бұрын

    Been practicing this... For the opening part, how do you prevent your vill from building the mill instead of killing the sheep? Even hovering over the sheep it turns into a build icon. Sometimes I have to pull the sheep out a bit just to make this reliably work

  • @janmzb

    @janmzb

    Жыл бұрын

    The hitbox of the sheep and the mill is sadly not that great, try zooming in or move the sheep a little bit.

  • @benpatterson6077
    @benpatterson6077 Жыл бұрын

    So I get not having the Mill out by the berries but what about putting the mill on the berry side of the tc? Wouldn’t that get the same effect with the IO but also make berry walk time shorter and also supervised?

  • @orioncampbell4744

    @orioncampbell4744

    Жыл бұрын

    In this case it's about the resource of time, you want as close to 0 seconds walk time as possible in order to make the timing work on the dynasty boost to villager production as well as access to the zhuge nu. Ideally for this build you want a straggler located right in front of your base where villagers spawn, if not you are going for the nearest straggler to your villagers and if berries are adjacent that's a bonus.

  • @iNcog_AoE
    @iNcog_AoE Жыл бұрын

    Nice build here

  • @DjangoYT
    @DjangoYT Жыл бұрын

    Plz make a video on what is timing push...

  • @TkTronixYt
    @TkTronixYt Жыл бұрын

    after playing a few rounds I found out I struggle a lot against HRE with Burgrave spamming MAA

  • @hiimrezgaming9885

    @hiimrezgaming9885

    Жыл бұрын

    My tip for you, when you play HRE: Scout their base as much as possible, and watch for fast castle (if they have a lot of villagers early in feudal, you can often guess the will go early age 3). Go age 3 yourself, and get crossbowmen.

  • @diggoran
    @diggoran Жыл бұрын

    Can you explain how IOs prioritize tax pickups? If you play pocket ecos, do you do anything special to make sure your IOs only pick up tax from buildings close to home?

  • @fathinalbatamiy9290

    @fathinalbatamiy9290

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand what pocket mean

  • @diggoran

    @diggoran

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fathinalbatamiy9290 A pocket economy is just a small group of resource gathering villagers disconnected from your main base, like when you go out into the map for a boar before it's been secured by your walls, keeps, or production.

  • @cameronscott4440
    @cameronscott4440 Жыл бұрын

    Holy you know what this is complicated

  • @CloudCuckooCountry
    @CloudCuckooCountry Жыл бұрын

    Is there anything you can do against mass zhuge nus other than just try to age up to castle and get mangonels?

  • @tempy2440

    @tempy2440

    Жыл бұрын

    English and HRE can try mixing in M@A into their comp, knights (of equivalent vetrancy) also have the damage dealt to them reduced to ping, I as a watcher of games would think it would be better to focus on mobility to counter the ball by raiding and picking off straggler units

  • @Verynormaltagname

    @Verynormaltagname

    Жыл бұрын

    maa with some range prot make for a good wall till you stabilize, china player either pulls back to up to t3 - waste time by doing some kiting, meanwhile you pull the mangos, gather relics/ raid the shit out of him with knights to even villager count before he pumps spears. After that lull is walling time and play like always

  • @achyutrastogi8080
    @achyutrastogi8080 Жыл бұрын

    How are you able to pause and interact with villagers??

  • @Max_Cony
    @Max_Cony Жыл бұрын

    how do you create blueprint of a building with no selected villager?

  • @temporaryname8905
    @temporaryname8905 Жыл бұрын

    Only need ome block in imperial radius? Today my game improves tenfold!

  • @TkTronixYt
    @TkTronixYt Жыл бұрын

    I was really sloppy, but managed to kill hardest AI at minute 13. I think this is gonna put some other gold opponents in trouble!

  • @kmikel3669

    @kmikel3669

    Жыл бұрын

    You sure about that?

  • @TkTronixYt

    @TkTronixYt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kmikel3669Yes, I reached Plat with it. Never managed before

  • @kmikel3669

    @kmikel3669

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TkTronixYt I reached plat 2 with basic style of walling off as I push and being defensive on sacred sites and markets while denying opponents market. So that's why I said are YOU sure about that, because that wouldn't work against me and others I know who play high level

  • @TkTronixYt

    @TkTronixYt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kmikel3669 yeah, as you can see I wrote 'gold opponents' not 'high level'

  • @kmikel3669

    @kmikel3669

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TkTronixYt as I am gold, I said I reached plat before with a different method, this season I'm gold 3. Soy question remains, what makes you think it will work on gold players, particularly myself?

  • @Staroy
    @Staroy Жыл бұрын

    Can someone with a math degree please write down the steps for me?

  • @seckerts6844
    @seckerts6844 Жыл бұрын

    How does this hold up Vs hre fc burgrave?

  • @alexanderjohnson3419
    @alexanderjohnson3419 Жыл бұрын

    How did building the mining camp allow you to obtain 30 wood? It was at the beginning.

  • @williamwolfe9335

    @williamwolfe9335

    Жыл бұрын

    They already chopped the wood. When you build a production building, villagers will drop off any resources they have once it's built regardless of which production building you made. It doesn't work if you shift click it though.

  • @grzesiekaz

    @grzesiekaz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamwolfe9335 Do you know if it's a glitch that may become fixed at some point or an expected, totally legit behavior?

  • @williamwolfe9335

    @williamwolfe9335

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grzesiekaz It's in many build order videos so it's definitely expected, but no one knows how it might change in the future. I like it.

  • @Snapshot.Geo07
    @Snapshot.Geo07 Жыл бұрын

    the most amazing is the 5:00 time of song dynasty,my time is 5:15

  • @harryhanson6660
    @harryhanson6660 Жыл бұрын

    What is the significance of moving the single villager to kill the sheep while constructing mill?

  • @thatoneguy5191

    @thatoneguy5191

    Жыл бұрын

    We make one person do it to avoid all the villagers doing the kill animation at the same time, making them all idle for a bit

  • @ismailsayar8599
    @ismailsayar8599 Жыл бұрын

    I tried the zhugenu rush so often but my enemys went age 3 all the time. What should i do then??

  • @kai-xuanyao4666

    @kai-xuanyao4666

    Жыл бұрын

    You're only really afraid of mangonels. They won't have more than 10 MAA by 11 minutes if they go fast castle, and 30 zhugenu can deal with that ez pz. If they go knights they get rekt by spears. Not a single civ can go fast castle and afford a mangonel with any units to support it. You have to be fast with your build order though, if you drag it along to 13-14 mins mark you'll lose.

  • @AndrewKosel
    @AndrewKosel Жыл бұрын

    how do you deduct 1 vil from a hot key group?

  • @krato_s5456
    @krato_s5456 Жыл бұрын

    i didnt like playing with chines civ befor cus i suck, but with this build order its so fkin good, thx m8

  • @user-yy3ww2ns3f
    @user-yy3ww2ns3f11 ай бұрын

    You the man.

  • @Vlambulance
    @Vlambulance Жыл бұрын

    Wish i was smart enough to remember all this lol

  • @GuilhermeBerger42
    @GuilhermeBerger42 Жыл бұрын

    How to deal with English or HRE MAA?

  • @richardburton7604
    @richardburton7604 Жыл бұрын

    Turn playback to 0.75 if you want to hear speech at an average speed instead of the lightning speed that Aussie_Drongo talks with.

  • @chrisnewtownnsw
    @chrisnewtownnsw Жыл бұрын

    all this and then you walk into enemy maa. Doh

  • @GuilhermeBerger42
    @GuilhermeBerger42 Жыл бұрын

    If the enemy does Fast Castle at 8-9mins do you still push?

  • @janmzb

    @janmzb

    Жыл бұрын

    This was often my problem. When they go fast castle, eg hre with men at arms, you have no chance.

  • @Parkourjumper1
    @Parkourjumper1 Жыл бұрын

    Did someone write the buildorder down? :D

  • @elbarto6512
    @elbarto65129 ай бұрын

    Why you have to build mill for sheep? imperial guy can't boost tc?

  • @brandon8667

    @brandon8667

    24 күн бұрын

    He cannot boost the tc

  • @ManroeMS
    @ManroeMS Жыл бұрын

    Hey Drongo if you haven't already, cover the Malian navy. I've never seen a more effective navy than theirs. Their cannons are insane on their ships.

  • @GoodnotGreat88
    @GoodnotGreat88 Жыл бұрын

    Started playing Aoe4. Chinese seem fun, lets find a video for some tips. Watch this. Find a new game.

  • @Pennygame
    @Pennygame Жыл бұрын

    Pls build order as pdf ❤❤❤❤

  • @pushpi201
    @pushpi2014 ай бұрын

    A pro wouldn’t be looking at your build order. Would it kill you to be a little slower?

  • @jacobs8531
    @jacobs85317 ай бұрын

    tried this vs abbasid, until i arraived he had almost double the vills ! easly defended with 0 army ! 15 vills in TC other 15 burning Rams even though i killed alot, mid fight he is in castle and gg called.

  • @GuilhermeBerger42
    @GuilhermeBerger42 Жыл бұрын

    Why no Clocktower in Imperial Academy?

  • @thomsom1

    @thomsom1

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the tax generated per unit is a fixed value so it is more efficient to train smaller, cheaper units instead.

  • @Deluxe88
    @Deluxe88 Жыл бұрын

    There is a donkey on minute 17

  • @GuilhermeBerger42
    @GuilhermeBerger42 Жыл бұрын

    What does this strategy lose to?

  • @MiroslawHorbal

    @MiroslawHorbal

    Жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see how this stacks up against a FC burgrave or Malian Javalin Thrower / Archer combo.

  • @ganknujnal

    @ganknujnal

    Жыл бұрын

    The lack of wood in the first 3-4 min feels vulneable to tower rushes

  • @captain543

    @captain543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ganknujnal It absolutely can be, but if you notice the rush - stop this build order and switch to wood and a normal tower defense approach. I am brand new to the game, practiced this build for hours and have won all my ranked games against higher ranked players than me so far. One of them was the Mongols and tried the tower rush and I successfully defended it and he resigned.

  • @troyb.4101
    @troyb.4101 Жыл бұрын

    How do you pause this game????

  • @williamwolfe9335

    @williamwolfe9335

    Жыл бұрын

    In single player mode, click escape key. In multiplayer mode, you can't.

  • @Therover19
    @Therover19 Жыл бұрын

    🚫🍮

  • @harryhanson6660
    @harryhanson6660 Жыл бұрын

    "whenever you have 40 gold at this mill, drop it off" How do you tell? Who has it and drops it off?

  • @williamwolfe9335

    @williamwolfe9335

    Жыл бұрын

    You click on the mill to see how much gold it has and the imperial official drops it off.

  • @bigminigame
    @bigminigame Жыл бұрын

    You never put your garnaries inside your academy range ?

  • @marcelv.9918
    @marcelv.9918 Жыл бұрын

    this doesnt work anymore, cause song nerf

  • @crazygreip
    @crazygreip Жыл бұрын

    You should leave 1 tile between mill and TC. Otherwise its more likely that villagers may return food to TC. Also mill without 1 tile between is slightly more vulnerable vs ranged attacks, but if you leave 1 tile between mill and TC you leave small safe space which can still be utilized as protected area and its less likely to deliver food into TC which is big no no. It can still happen with 1 tile between the TC and Mill but less likely. Obviously a lot depends on other factors if mill can be threatened but I found that leaving the 1 tile is just easier and better. Also placing Villager far away from TC leaves it vulnerable to harass which results you either losing it or losing wood to repair it. ITs better for village to hug the tc

  • @flyingjetbr

    @flyingjetbr

    Жыл бұрын

    You should use Village as a garrison point when you expand (like near berries or behind woodline, as shown on this video, or maybe on your stone if you're going for 2nd TC), also if it's close to TC you will probably waste space on the Academy. Regarding the empty space, that's why you want to reposition the sheep to the other side, so it should never be an issue. It's actually way more likely that you will drop off at TC if you leave a space and try to farm the sheep between the mill and TC (safer, as you suggest) If your Villages are getting destroyed, you probably needed them to save your villagers anyway (because it means you're under fire, not having the village would mean more walking distance for your villagers)

  • @crazygreip

    @crazygreip

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flyingjetbr Yes I do know why he places village further ahead, but its much easily subject of taken down or damaged, which hurts economy and isn't worth of risk. If you're so worried about influence of IA then you can delete village in later game if you desire to use the spot for something else. Its better be safe early on than use resources to repair village or lose it because its much easier to lose especially when facing ranged based comp with potential ram or torch dmg. If village is hugging TC it can't be taken down without rams or armored units and even then you can repair it while instantly hopping back to TC. Mill without 1 tile distance is subject to any ranged raids. You're actually 3 tiles away from TC and TC fire range is like 7 or 8 tiles which leaves you vulnerable to normal archer attacks also it leaves sheep vulnerable and if player is capable they just kill the sheep on that spot and denies your food. If you place it 1 tile away and stack sheep properly then it won't deliver into TC and is completely protected. Also interaction with mill, vills and TC for dropping off is weird because even if the mill is actually closer, but villager is somewhat in weird position it delivers it into TC and with mill being hugging the TC and if you need safer food you need to move the sheep to sideways which results more likely vills delivering food into TC. As someone who plays Song into FC and got very similar methods. Even tho I play 2v2, but the way I have done things are experienced that I had when facing aggressive plays or pokes and these measures ensures that I can reach FC with song with pro scouts without and hinder and timing I hit castle is around 8-830min mark. Also for example because I go pro scouts everygame and start with 2 scout I can ensure 2 deer camps or more under the first mill and completely protected. Usually my BBQ covers mill too because its always between gold and TC and usually also woodline too.

  • @YourFoodieGuideEngineer
    @YourFoodieGuideEngineer11 ай бұрын

    the game don't have Japan civilization its not the same anymore

  • @STJukes
    @STJukes Жыл бұрын

    Fyi, 'zh' is pronounced like 'j'.

  • @lahpascual
    @lahpascual Жыл бұрын

    no need to kill the first sheep with the vill, just place it on the side farthest to the TC

  • @tokash1337

    @tokash1337

    Жыл бұрын

    you want to kill it with one vill only before otherwise every vill will waste time with the killing animation

  • @14kk53
    @14kk536 ай бұрын

    build order would be nice mate ... your English and ADHD is all over the shop still going to try and follow this

  • @samroberts4166
    @samroberts4166 Жыл бұрын

    wait you can drop wood off at a mill?!

  • @dejake_aoe

    @dejake_aoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Only once they've finished building a dropoff building

  • @kingmbkian774
    @kingmbkian77410 ай бұрын

    Bro i literly listening to ur video at 0.75x. slow down my dude. Tnx btw for ur video

  • @acommoncommenter9364
    @acommoncommenter9364 Жыл бұрын

    I hit castle with 3 minutes before you push, gg nice try Drongo.

  • @prodostar6428
    @prodostar642811 ай бұрын

    Bro talks at 2x speed plus who even trys this hard\

  • @KINGMMD1
    @KINGMMD1 Жыл бұрын

    The villagers wont drop the wood at the Mill, Is it due to the recent update? Thank you @Aussie_Drongo

  • @AussieDrongo

    @AussieDrongo

    Жыл бұрын

    don't shift click the villagers, just build the mill and don't give any other commands

  • @KINGMMD1

    @KINGMMD1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AussieDrongo thank You very much brother! What a fast response! Iam so happy to watch all of your videos and playlist! Wish you the best man! keep it up buddy’!!!

  • @vigilantrebelgaming2317
    @vigilantrebelgaming231729 күн бұрын

    I really hate every player that uses this civ. Bees nest and crossbowmen are fucking dumb and unfair.

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