Thank you for this. Must be the best explanation I have found so far. Looking forward to putting your advice in to practice.

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

This was incredibly helpful. I have felt like I usually slow myself down with my toepick when trying to check the 3-turn - your tip of holding the 3-turn until you turn forward again is one I'm excited to try out!

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

Great to hear! Let me k ow how it goes!

This teacher ist absolut incredible❤🙏

@iskatecoach

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

Crazy how this coach can do it over and over so slowly and easily. It just seems I *must* be able to do it like that it looks so easy when he does it.

@iskatecoach

5 ай бұрын

You’d be more worried if I fell every time 😂

This is by far the best salchow tutorial I’ve come across. Thank you!! Still feel kinda timid to try it on my own as an adult skater without my coach’s supervision but I might start with the barrier. 😅

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

Glad it helped 😀

@steveherbert9575

7 ай бұрын

....."wait" you mean check - same thing I know, but check is better instruction 😊. The rest of the tutorial was great however.

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

i agree that’s the right wording 😊 I use the word check often in this video 👍🏼 saying “wait” is better for skaters new to Salchow as, in my experience, they will usually try to take off too early so they literally need to ‘wait’ a little after checking the three turn. If I say “check longer” it would take away the flow of the entry and make it harder to rotate. They have to use a little swing to take into the jump 😃

Really enjoy the format of your jump tutorials, especially the breakdowns and entry variations. The tip about the knee action rhythm was very useful. Your earlier axel progression tutorial was also very good. Would love to see similar videos on Lutz/Flip, maybe even combos. 🤗

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

They’re coming 😀

Awesome! Really helpful❤

The best explanation! Thank you!

Thank you. 3 turn is too difficult for me right now. Mohawk is much easier, so I shall use this entry 😊

@iskatecoach

6 ай бұрын

I think in some ways the Mohawk sets skaters over their takeoff leg better in general, 3 turns can have more variables in alignment and balance depending on how they are executed!

This is a great breakdown, thank you!

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

Thank you for this tutorial!

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

such a nice tutorial. Thank you so much!

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great description and tips.

@iskatecoach

6 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

excellent explanation! Muchas gracias

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

It looks so easy, when you show. I have more faith in my abilities

@iskatecoach

4 ай бұрын

You can do it

I was stuggling with hook thing and now I understand what I'm doing wrong.

@iskatecoach

Ай бұрын

Brilliant 🤩

Like the part about tight control of the 3 turn to reduce over rotation. Very helpful.

@iskatecoach

4 ай бұрын

Hope it helps 🙌🏻

Thank you for such a detailed walk through. My coach keeps telling me I’m ready to try this, but I wasn’t convinced. This makes me feel more confident in giving it a go. I do struggle as a lefty to visualize everything the other way! Scary in your late forties too lol

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

You can do it!

@TheLarryBrown

3 ай бұрын

Quit complaining. I'm 63 and I never mention that ever.

I love this video! Any chance of doing ones for loop and further as well?

@iskatecoach

7 ай бұрын

Loops next 🙌🏻

Great video! I was wondering what your take on the "fancy waltz jump" is. I've seen other people explain a common mistake as doing a fancy waltz jump because they usually lead with the toe instead of the heel, which makes it half a roation instead of a whole rotation. I'm not sure which "way" to do it anymore

@iskatecoach

5 ай бұрын

I feel like this must be much more emphasised in the US as we just don’t really focus on this as an issue so much in the UK. I said to someone the other day I’ve never seen a salchow not get called with either heel or toe leading so it’s not something I’m too concerned about unless it’s abnormally too much of one or the other. I do like the sound of a fancy waltz jump though 😀

@cranma0125

5 ай бұрын

@@iskatecoach aaah okay! Thanks for clearing that up. Also, I kept this video in mind when I went skating today... I landed my first salchow!! Both from a standstill and a moving entrance! It's soon exciting. I tried it on the line as you said, and it was very helpful. I got it on video too🤩

@TheLarryBrown

4 ай бұрын

One point of confusion about that "fancy waltz jump"...as shown in the video, you need to spring from the left toe pick and while the left foot is facing forward. Since that's exactly the same thing you do in a waltz jump, and you are thinking there has to be a difference between the two jumps, you might think there needs to a difference in the left foot when the spring is done, but there isn't. That is a point of potential confusion, and it is addressed in the video, explaining that the jump can only be done when the left foot is facing forward. In both jumps the right foot is (typically) off the ice when the spring is done, so there's really very little difference. If you "lead with the heel," the only difference is the angle of the right foot, which is off the ice. "Lead with the heel" and the right toe is pointing somewhere away from forward, don't lead with the heel and the right foot is pointing forward. It's a tiny difference between the two jumps. The bigger difference is that a waltz jump is all done moving forward, with a forward entry and both feet pointing forward, whereas in a salchow the entry happens moving backwards and with both feet pointing backwards, and there is a hook and a 180 degree turn (on the ice) right at the moment of the spring. As addressed in the video, don't think you need to avoid "pre-rotating," before you are in the air. The left foot stays on the ice and rotates all the way forward before it springs. Coach....I know you are good about responding to comments here. If I misstated anything in my comments, please don't be shy about correcting or clarifying me. I won't get hurt feelings!

@TheLarryBrown

4 ай бұрын

@@iskatecoach I don't know about the US, but I think people are watching high profile instructor Coach Julia and she makes a big point of this "lead with the heel."

@cranma0125

4 ай бұрын

@@TheLarryBrown thank you for the explaination! and yes, one of the online coaches I watch is coach Julia. I just "leveled up" at my skating club, so I get to skate with a new group where we learn more advanced stuff. The Salchow is one of them, so it'll be interesting how they explain it

When doing the hock dose my blade actually touch the ice tia x

@iskatecoach

6 ай бұрын

In the 3 turn entry no it should stay behind you in the air u til the hook starts. In the 2 foot entry yes it does touch the ice very lightly

I was told you had to jump with the heal leading to make it a salchow. So the free leg coming in front almost and then kicking back and around rather than toes forward like a 3jump. Does it matter or are both correct and just different styles.

@iskatecoach

6 ай бұрын

It’s not as important as the toe loop as that actually changes the direction you jump from backwards to forwards. In my experience most people naturally turn out a little on the delivery of the free leg so it’s not something I correct often.

@TheLarryBrown

5 ай бұрын

Interesting. At 2:30 in Coach Julia's video she delivers the same "lead with the heel" lecture as she does with the toe loop.

@iskatecoach

5 ай бұрын

@@TheLarryBrown if the toe is too turned in it could be called as a waltz jump. I’ve personally never had that happen and it’s not something I need to correct very often in lessons. Worth checking though 👍🏼

excellent video and better than Coach Julia's.

@iskatecoach

5 ай бұрын

I believe it’s good to take a few perspectives and try different concepts from coaches to get an overall idea that helps you understand best. Everyone’s different and will learn different from this process so I’m grateful if my explanation resonated with you for this jump and I sincerely hope it helps you on the ice 😃

@TheLarryBrown

5 ай бұрын

@@iskatecoach Well I think Coach Julia is an excellent coach and the best coach on KZread by a fair measure, and most any video she makes is going to be the best available treatment of the subject matter at hand, so for you to beat her out is great work on your part.

Pretty much all of them rotate before actual lifting off

@iskatecoach

6 ай бұрын

It’s true! Although on quad skates, they actually do the full rotation, it’s an interesting technique to compare

Hi Coach. Since you spring completely from your toe pick, why is this called an "edge" jump with the other type being a "toe" jump? Since you are actually jumping from the toe pick it seems like a "toe" jump. I have heard confusion over this point with people thinking you need to avoid the toe pick since this is an "edge" jump, and in fact a youthful coach of mine just the other day gave me that exact misinformation. "Larry, don't jump from the toe pick. Salchow is an edge jump." I didn't argue with him but thanks to this video I know better. Anyway coach, why? Of what use is it to emphasize this is an edge jump. and that you take off from your outside edge, and that you land on the outside edge, and to emphasize this is not a toe jump, when actually you take off from your toe pick and land on your toe pick? It just confuses students and misleads them.

@iskatecoach

4 ай бұрын

I love your intrigue into this! It can be confusing. The difference between most edge vs toe jumps is the nature of the toe pick action. For edge jumps it’s a spring from a flat blade (ankle bent) to fully extended ankle that hits the toe on the way up. In a toe jump the tap of the toe is like a pole vault assisting the jump. In edge jumps there’s an edge acceleration that tightens the curve and converts your energy from moving along to both moving upward and rotating! In toe jumps there can be an edge to assist this action but ultimately the toe is the pivot point for that rotation to happen. What fascinates me always is how we figured these jumps out over 100 years ago! Imagine seeing the first ever axel or lutz, it would of been mind blowing how they were using their blades this way with very limited equipment. It is possible to not hit your toe pick on an edge jump, and I would also say that toe pick can also be excessive. I’d never teach no toe at all and I rarely teach edge jumps to have more toe than what naturally happens by going through the motion of the jump. Hope that helps

Here I was thinking only an axle takes off front facing . What other jumps take off forward ?

@iskatecoach

8 ай бұрын

Yes axel is the only jump that technically is a forward glide on its entry edge, all the others are backwards but there’s always a slight rotation past backwards on the toe pick of all jumps, including edge jumps, that puts it nearly forwards. I mention this when teaching as it can be a harder job to rotate for a new skater. I make sure they are then not cheating by pre rotating too far as in ISU rules, you are not allowed too much pre-rotation 👍🏼

@midgechickma

8 ай бұрын

@@iskatecoach good to be in the know. Thank you lotsa

@steveherbert9575

7 ай бұрын

The three jump or waltz jump is also a forward facing jump

@midgechickma

7 ай бұрын

@steveherbert9575 oh yes I forgot also waltz. Thanks

2:20 It's just this easy. I can't show you any slower than this. If I make it any slower I will need to use crayons.

@iskatecoach

5 ай бұрын

😂