How to Distinguish Between Intentional Gunfire and Unintentional Gunfire in Your Direction
Paul explains some ways to identify if someone is intentionally or unintentionally shooting at you or in your direction.
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Ohio front door shooting video that Paul was talking about kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGGYyNqMdcSblLA.html
@vstaritz
Жыл бұрын
The Case Of James Rayl on the Dreading channel is an extensive breakdown of this event.
@AspenSavage
Жыл бұрын
@@vstaritz Active Self Protection just did one this week as well
@warrenfowler8049
Жыл бұрын
Here's an uncensored version with 2 interviews. A more explicit version kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3afq4-zlZqbgZc.html Interview with the dad kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4io3Mujmcm2adI.html Interview with the daughter kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3ZlktWTodq8aZs.html
@mynameisstilljafo4063
Жыл бұрын
I've watched a few clips on this one, and I am absolutely SMH at some of the comments. "Should have just talked with the guy." "Fire a warning shot." "Wrestle him to the ground and tie him up until the police get there." What planet are these people living on?!?
@tommissouri4871
Жыл бұрын
@@warrenfowler8049 - Dad's interview is so messed up. NEVER speak without an attorney. NEVER. Everything that cop said was to get him to incriminate himself. NEVER speak without an attorney, even if you know you were right. type of ammo? - anything other than standard ball ammo indicates a desire to kill one in the chamber? - means you are ready for a fight keep it loaded? - means you are ready for a fight registered in your name? - looking for something wrong or throw you off NEVER speak without an attorney. (edited to add question marks to indicate questions given to him, not my statements. The other part is what the prosecutor could say his answer meant. )
I have been shot at unintentionally twice in my life, both times while hunting. One was a fellow hunter who had turned 180 from the firing line since he "assumed we were all in line" as we progressed forward. The other was some target shooters on public land that had an insufficient backstop that were sending all sorts of rounds at my friends and I. We first jumped in a trench/gully to provide cover, then shouted and hollered that we were downrange of them, and then as the fire continued we spent a tedious amount of time working our way around their position so we could approach them safely from behind. Many words were exchanged.
@user-nb8yt2il2r
Жыл бұрын
After seeing tracer fire at night i feel pretty confident in saying there is no shich thing as a sufficient backstop when you are dealing with dirt mounds. Ive seen tracers go into mounds and come flying out the top at 45 degree angles
@DonMeaker
Жыл бұрын
Used to work pit detail for army rifle training. The crack of supersonic rounds overhead is unmistakeable.
@NaughtyShepherd
Жыл бұрын
I’m really curious to know what those words were.
@je2231
Жыл бұрын
I got shot at unintentionally once. I was in my backyard as a teen when we heard these loud noises and the ground was sorta tore up near us. Turns out a turkey hunter missed so he blasted out 3 or 4 shell out within 300 years of a home (big no no here. like good bye gun rights hello cuffs no no). We yelled at him then my dad and my friends dad went out towards him for a conversation that can be summed up as 'come with us please to apologize to our sons then the local police are going to talk to you.' The guy wasn't actually charged but he got a nice ride in the back of a crown vic.
@je2231
Жыл бұрын
@@DonMeaker I grew up a 3/4 of a mile down range from the backstops of a military firing range. The build up to the iraq invasion sure taught us that .50 bmg and 7.62 don't respect back stops and can go faaar after bouncing. The farmer between us and the range was finding those rounds in his feilds for years after.
Paul is outstanding in his field.
@borismorris9841
Жыл бұрын
As always
@HumboldtGuanoBand
Жыл бұрын
He is also out, standing in his field.
@derekbootle8316
Жыл бұрын
@@HumboldtGuanoBand commas, matter?
@killpidone
Жыл бұрын
Like a scarecrow
@cebsaid2932
Жыл бұрын
Tell him to come back, he has an anecdote to share
As a teen of about 13 I was pheasant hunting with my Dad on private land in the midwest. A third man who we did not know joined us. We walked through the fields as a row of three hunters spaced appropriately apart. I was far left, the man was center and Dad was right. We had discussed the field of fire each of us were to have. As we proceeded a pheasant flushed in front of me. The bird was mine and I raised my shotgun to fire. The next thing I knew I felt the heat of a warm pressure wave whoosh past my right ear. My hair rustled. I can still "feel" that today, over 50 years later. The hunter (center man) did not intend to shoot at me but, another inch or two to the left and I wouldn't be writing this here today. Thanks Paul for an excellent topic and discussion.
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
Dang that's an intense story! Thanks for sharing.
@iZephiroth
Жыл бұрын
I bet your dad was livid with the other hunter. What happened afterwards?
@eliteairgunner5172
Жыл бұрын
Your dad would never have forgiven himself if the worst happened to you. Probably a good reason not to trust anyone you don't know to hunt with you......
@mr.wizard6891
Жыл бұрын
The exact same thing happened to me as a kid. We set up a firing line very close to each other and whenever birds popped up, I’d feel the concussive force of shotgun blasts on my face. Afterwards I stopped going hunting.
@debravictoria7452
Жыл бұрын
I've never hunted, but had a round go right by my head. On the range at Camp Pendleton. Someone on another range must have gotten confused and/or whoever was in charge was not doing their job. Probably a good thing that I was in the prone position. The guy in the tower rushed down the ladder, phone in hand.
Regarding returning fire, I would suggest that getting out of there is often a better option. If they came out there to actually shoot you, they may very well be more equipped to do that than you are to stop them. They decided the weapon, distance, timing, etc. Remember, you win the encounter if you get out of there without life-threatening injury. You do not have to actually hit an attacker to avoid getting shot. Nor do you automatically avoid getting shot if you do hit them. Firing in their direction AND getting out of there might be preferable in some cases, as they may become suppressed. But in general I think putting as much distance between yourself and the guy with the gun as possible is probably a good idea 9 times out of 10.
@tibzig1
Жыл бұрын
Yes. As a "decrepit old man of 65" who fought jihad against an entity known as the Soviet Union (most young people have no idea what it was) in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, I can vouch for you viewpoint. One could never tell with any degree of accuracy (most of the time) where someone was shooting at you in those majestic mountains of the Hindu Kush. The only thing you could tell was whether it was a semi-automatic or an automatic weapon and if it was a particularly large caliber weapon.
@genericwhitekidthesecond4330
Жыл бұрын
@@tibzig1 So...did you just admit you fought on Osama Bin Laden's CIA funded side? Or am I totally misunderstanding?
@tibzig1
Жыл бұрын
@@genericwhitekidthesecond4330 I was 16 at the time. I have no idea to this day "what Mujahideen group" or "side" I was part of. I was assigned to a loose faction of about 50 fighters. People came and went and were wounded/killed as well. Yes. The Americans (CIA) were funding the Mujahideen through the Pakistani ISI. The Pakistanis were extremely sharp in this regard, and they never allowed the CIA to establish direct contact with those groups. The ISI was the middleman. Yes, I did. There is nothing to admit. Of course, the U.S funded the war against the Soviet Union. The U.S. involvement brought it to a quicker end. We would have prevailed in the long run just as the Taliban prevailed over the U.S after 20 years. Western culture being hedonistic is scared of death and long, drawn-out conflicts. That has been proven over and over.
@dadistos4538
Жыл бұрын
@@tibzig1 Interesting perspective. A man who is 65 and fought in the mujahedeen is typing on youtube, what a time we live in.
@tibzig1
Жыл бұрын
@@dadistos4538 Yes it is. And I have my grandchildren to thank for making me computer literate! LOL! But I still do not have Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. No use for these. Just Watsapp for those long distance calls.
My uncle retired to Arkansas and bought a nice sized piece of land and built a house on it. He became drinking buddies with some of the local guys, including one guy who is like a real life version of Boomhauer from King of the Hill. He invited Boomhauer and a few of the other guys to come over and shoot some guns and drink some beers, preferably in that order. He was setting up the target about 100 yards away from the deck they were shooting from. Boomhauer wanted to get my uncles attention, but instead of just shouting, he picked up a 10/22 and started shooting in his direction. My uncle said a couple of the rounds were terrifyingly close to hitting him. Apparently Boomhauer thought a .22 wasn't powerful enough to hurt him at that distance. Unfortunately for Boomhauer my uncle was a pretty big and strong buy before he had cancer, and he walked back to the deck and punched Boomhauer in the mouth, then banned him from his house.
@mikewilhelmson8413
Жыл бұрын
dangolshootman
@youtube.commentator
Жыл бұрын
@@mikewilhelmson8413 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 the translation
@draxxsklounst6595
Жыл бұрын
@@youtube.commentator yea lol wtf is that
@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR
Жыл бұрын
.22LR is deadly further than you can shoot it accurately.
@JoeSyxpack
Жыл бұрын
I've met a disturbing amount of people who consider the .22 lr so weak as to not be a threat to other people, likening it to a BB gun. I've heard "It'll bounce off the skull" and "Won't penetrate the skin past 20 yards" on more than one occasion.
If you realize that someone is in fact purposefully shooting at you, another thing to remember is that you are already at a massive disadvantage. They already know generally where you are and are also apparently already in a position to be able to take shots at you. So getting to cover, assessing where they are at, and then planning what you are going to do is critical. You don't want to just jump out and start firing somewhere.
@cagneybillingsley2165
Жыл бұрын
daily reminder dr paul harrell had to once shoot a guy in the head because that guy thought it was smart to try and scare him and his wife by making like he was going to ram them
@novkorova2774
Жыл бұрын
That is, unless you have a tank.
@miketyson8933
Жыл бұрын
Wow you should be given an award for your genius comment
@0x1337feed
Жыл бұрын
@@miketyson8933 +1
@BUZZKILLJRJR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, if you start firing at (were you) "think" they are (general direction) if you can't see them, you may be firing off in the wrong direction. they may hit you, or they still didn't see you, Only because you didn't signal and they think they are shooting at a deer or something still. Some people shoot at stuff in the woods that moves instead of confirming what it is first yeah it's crappy but it's just the truth of it.
I have been on the fireing side of this. I had a place where I had been shooting on a ditch bank down into a ditch for 30 years. The nut of a neighbor a quarter of a mile away walked out in front of where I was shooting. He then used his cell phone to call the sheriff to report me for shooting at him. THe sheriff arrived and walked over and talked to me about the incident and remarked "Nice set up" because I was set up with a 50 foot range and my vector was such that no stray rounds could leave this 30 foot deep ditch and he could clearly see all my rounds were on target with the way I was set up. The Deputy then went and had a talk with the neighbor about making false 911 reports.
@kriskahn7249
Жыл бұрын
Was it your property and did you have no trespassing signs in your property lines?
@hartstudebakerkid
Жыл бұрын
@@kriskahn7249 It was and still is irrigation ditch bank managed by a federal agency.
@kriskahn7249
Жыл бұрын
No offence but it kind of dumb to put a personal shooting range on public land good back stop or not. Same as people getting shot at on public hunting property. Him being stupid had just as much right as you
@hartstudebakerkid
Жыл бұрын
@@kriskahn7249 Public land is how it is done and if you could read a map instead of just yap your face you would know what those marks that denote public shooting ranges and gravel pits are.
@bunk95
6 ай бұрын
Sheriffs are fictional. Did you check if the shooter had the central nervous system required to shoot before calling a slave marketed as Sheriff? Marketing slaves when made marketable is?
I have definitely had wayward bullets fly over when out shooting on public land. Also, a guy I grew up with was murdered, and some of his companions were wounded, while camping many years years ago. Someone decided he didn’t like that people were camping in a place they paid to have access to, which was adjacent to his land. He went to prison for sure, but he wrecked some lives. To this day I always have a gun on me when I go camping (not that it will necessarily save me, but I feel safer). Be careful out there.
@rin_tinsilver3593
Жыл бұрын
I also have a legal carry permit, but usually only carry if I'm out camping or just looking at the birds or little animals.
@TheBabyDerp
Жыл бұрын
@@rin_tinsilver3593 permit? constitution clearly says shall not be infringed.
@jessetheunending9357
Жыл бұрын
@@rin_tinsilver3593 I'm glad you follow the law the best you can, while keeping yourself safe.
@snoopu2601
Жыл бұрын
Same here I will never go camping without some sort of fire arm. You never know what is out there even if they say there is no wild animal's. When I was younger I was nievee not knowing what is really out there until I went camping alone off some logging road in Northen California. I may never go camping again I gave all my camping gear away.
@wirebug42
Жыл бұрын
@@snoopu2601 ok you got me curious, I'll bite. What happened off that logging road?
Two things that I learned from this presentation: 1. Reserve firing your gun to identify your position as a last resort. 2. The less someone knows about your situation, the more they want to judge you. Thank you for making us think. More people should do so.
@wrayday7149
Жыл бұрын
The less info you provide about your situation the more likely you will receive factually inaccurate responses.
@turtletruth
Жыл бұрын
If you can't beat them, join them!!! (Together there is Unity!) The "do-gooder" gun owners shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment on their own, by self-righteousness! What part of shall not infringe do "do-gooder" and politicians not understand! (This is their fault too!) Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or single bullet, for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!) FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote though and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with vengeance, in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY! ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (If non-violent felons without victims and injured parties can't legally possess a single bullet, then nobody should possess guns or bullets!) PERIOD!.... - Turtletruth (Oorah)..
@owensthilaire8189
Жыл бұрын
I remember a sign a grade school teacher had: Be alert. The world needs more lerts.
"Fire a warning shot!" ⚠️ DON'T EVER FIRE A WARNING SHOT, PLEASE! ⚠️ Follow Paul's advice and keep that whistle right where you can access it. It really is the best audio signal. It's a very clear way to show that you are there and that you are not a danger to anyone else.
@boygonewhoopdataZZ
Жыл бұрын
Yea a warning shot is a sure way to get your whole hunting party killed like the guy who shot at Chai Vang, granted it seemed like he would've died if he hadn't immediately dropped to the ground and not just that the dude was a well decorated war veteran.
@trc8197
Жыл бұрын
A warning shot works on most animals when hunting, but not a human predator stalking you. A whistle won't tell them better than your voice. But a whistle will grant possible bystander attention, as will your first shot. Whether it be a warning or not. Difference is whether it's legal in your area for a warning shot. In general, from what I've gathered and Learned, and it's the old saying "dead men tell no tales."
@WynnofThule
Жыл бұрын
"Patterson, fire a warning shot." "Sir, this is an M32 Rotary Grenade Launche-" "Ahh, potato potato, just fire it Patterson."
@richardgallagher4880
Жыл бұрын
Paul waving his hat from behind the tree was a very good impression of a deer ruting.
@trioptimum9027
Жыл бұрын
@@WynnofThule Ironically, 40mm colored smoke can actually be a really good warning shot.
A buddy of mine who is a veteran once told me that if the bullet makes the whizzing sound, its not close but if it makes a pop then its time to move and find cover, I was out in an area of desert in AZ when I was younger, me and some friends were target shooting and started hearing pops and stuff hitting the ground near us, I got everyone under cover and took off running toward the gunfire, found 2 guys shooting directly at us through targets even though you could easily see my truck from where they were standing, I yelled at them and they apologized and started packing up
I had one of these incidents as a teenager. Luckily I had been raised around guns. The first shot kicked up dirt in front of me; didn't know for sure which way it had come. There were a few trees around and as I was moving for cover, another shot soared past my ear. There was a huge open field and I don't know where the shot actually came from. Stayed behind the tree for quite awhile and then bolted to safety. It was clearly intention, as though they were sighting me in. Took awhile to process that experience!
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
Wow... just wow! Did you ever find out who was shooting at you?
@Waterenjoyer1308
Жыл бұрын
@@glenj.taylor2938 probably not.
@rockjockchick
Жыл бұрын
Omg. Good thing you kept your wits about you.
@sukhoifockewulf9371
Жыл бұрын
@@glenj.taylor2938No, because it didn't happen.
@godlikemachine645
Жыл бұрын
@sukhoifockewulf9371 true, attempted murder has never happened IRL.
“I guarantee you that your actions will be judged very harshly by people from the league of ignorant pedantic doofuses”. Paul Harrell
@HCFyD
Жыл бұрын
Not just actions, as a person you will be put online and judged before you appear in court. I am reminded of one of my ignorant acquaintances aggressively asserting that Rittenhouse, "shot black people"
@jd9119
Жыл бұрын
And if you get charged, there's a pretty good chance you'll get some of them on your jury.
@jd9119
Жыл бұрын
@@HCFyD One of them was jchewish and in today's "woke" society, that's even a bigger no-no.
@ffarmchicken
Жыл бұрын
@@jd9119 I’ve served on a jury, you are 1000% correct. BOTH the DA and the Defense get to pick jurors. Remember that. The DA is not your friend.
@MelodusDethicus
Жыл бұрын
@@HCFyD Had a run in with a jackass like that in the comments of another video a few weeks back. "Shot blacks". Weird. I didn't know a kiddie diddler, a wife beater, and a burglar; all of whom were white; suddenly turned into a trio of black guys. That was a very obvious "I only know what mainstream media tells me" clue from that guy. Guy was a jackass. I saw phone footage of that incident days after the fact, and it took a year later for more people to start talking about it through that sham of a court case with all the bullshit media spin.
I've been to Norway a handful of times. They have laws that allow people to travel on your property without requiring permission, and even camp there for a few days, as long as they are far enough away from your house. (allemannsrett... or "every man's right) Every Norwegian I know fully supports this. I've been to my friend's ancestral family cabin a few times, and we always do some clay bird shooting with a foot activated rig. The first time I went, we were shooting up a storm and then we heard a voice in the valley call out... obviously it was in Norwegian, so I don't know exactly what was said, but it was something like: "Hey guys, I am walking here, can you please stop shooting for 5 minutes, until I get out of range?" They said "sure". And waited for 5 minutes until the hiker was no longer our backstop. I was amazed about how chill everybody was.
@BatCaveOz
Жыл бұрын
Also - 9 minutes in... if it doesn't get covered later in this video... my (not legal) advice... if you find yourself in a situation when shots are unintentionally heading your way... drop to the ground and fire of 3 rounds in a safe direction... so that people know that you are not a deer/hog/moose/goose/etc.
@randomguy1371
Жыл бұрын
@BatCaveOz good advice on the dropping. Unless you have reason to believe you are the intentional target. The way it is in Norway sounds awesome, and I wish Americans could get along that well. Won't happen I don't think considering our government has done things like Ruby Ridge, so we can't trust the person walking :(
@LordPerique
Жыл бұрын
In lots of new england we have the same thing, here you can hunt, fish, trap, hike, or target shoot on any land that isnt posted or within a reasonable distance of a house. Well, you cant shoot within city/town limits, but you can do all the other things.
@darrenhaywood7924
Жыл бұрын
If it's my land I dont want any visitors on it
@LiteralCrimeRave
Жыл бұрын
@@LordPerique do you have a good link to hunting laws in England, specifically what you can and where you can hunt? That sounds interesting
That's a really sinister and scary sound hearing the rounds whizzing by the camera, it would really get you on edge very fast
@georgesheffield1580
7 ай бұрын
From experience ,it does get your attention .
@TerryWhisk
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I would definitely say that being shot at would get you on edge great observation buddy
It just occurred to me that when bullets go right past you, you actually hear the whistling sound in reverse. First you hear the sound the bullet made when it was closest to you, then the sounds arrive that it made further away and further back in time, all the way back to then it started whistling through the air at the time of the shot.
My largest worry about having to defend myself. Is not the physical capability to do so. It is the corrupt authorities, and all the people from the league of ignorant, pedantic, doufuses that will be in the jury.
@propdoctor21564
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 👍
@punjabiplug2823
Жыл бұрын
M'yes, shallow and pedantic indeed.
@Johnny-jr2lq
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mastafull
Жыл бұрын
I'd be worried the attacker had family or friends in positions of power to destroy my life as payback. Still better than the alternative of becoming a victim.
@nomisunrider5940
Жыл бұрын
Yep
It doesn't have to be someone else shooting at you. Many years ago, a buddy of mine and I were shooting a Ruger 10/22 into an old, porcelain washtub that was laying on its side. While my buddy was shooting, I kept hearing what sounded like bees buzzing around my head, but it turned out to be the bullets zipping around that tub and coming back at us. We're lucky to be alive!
@ThisTimeTheWorld
Жыл бұрын
I know someone who shot a dinosaur tv monitor and dodged a ricochet. Don't shoot TVs or golf balls.
@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor
Жыл бұрын
@@ThisTimeTheWorld Good advice! Thanks and be safe!!
@eloiseharbeson2483
Жыл бұрын
With me it was an older TV set with the curved steel shield behind the (long gone) CRT. Never will forget the sound those bullets made.
@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor
Жыл бұрын
@@eloiseharbeson2483 I know what you mean because I could hear them as I wrote my post.
@thecommunistdoggo1008
Жыл бұрын
I did something similar with my 10/22. Bullet hit a rock about 1/2cm below the dirt behind the target and came back at me. Not really much you could do differently there
There's something wonderful about listening to wise men offer their life advice based on their wealth of experience. I've learned so much from this channel and I'm not even an avid outdoorsman, other than the occasional/yearly trip to the shooting range. All I can say is how grateful I am. Thank you, Paul.
@laptopdragon
Жыл бұрын
if there's one thing (there's a lot more) that this channel has taught me is that to know myself. Know my limitations (yes, I just might need a road flare to start a campfire) and knowing that I do have road flares in my car...and of course strive to learn amap to where I won't need them. So much info on this channel alone.
@Mark-uh4zd
Жыл бұрын
Too bad the youth of today don’t share the same sentiment. Many are indoctrinated through schools now, or are so far into following the current “thing” that nobody stops to do their own research or check facts. I’m in my early 30s, so I narrowly escaped what was coming. Still played outside as a kid, and didn’t have phone until high school. Glad I took the time to listen to ww2 vet stories and stories from older people growing up.
My favorite part of this channel is all of the practical advice Paul gives. The "Shooting while in bed" one sincerely had me training in my bedroom. This is a skill I learned in the Army and undoubtedly Paul did too.
I was in a small boat with a friend and bullets started hitting all around us. We could hear the direction from where they were coming and jumped overboard. Using the boat as a shield we pushed it to shore and ran up to my house. Turns out, a teenager across the lake was shooting at pigeons roosting on their boathouse with a .22 and the bullets happened to hit near us. Exciting times. Know what's behind your target.
@user-pc8tb7hg1lHandlesRDumb
Жыл бұрын
Nice, I was thinking how I would react as Paul told the boating story, this seemed like the best option, glad nobody got hurt in that instance of negligence.
@louisliu5638
Жыл бұрын
In my Canadian C.O.R.E. course, recommended BEFORE you get your firearms license, two kids came with their dad: 10 and 11 years old. They're taught the same as adults: "prove it safe", how to check the five types of long guns for emptying cartridges, and good basic best practices. The 10 year old was the only one with the perfect test score! Safety and good work habits start early.
@louisliu5638
Жыл бұрын
@@user-pc8tb7hg1lHandlesRDumb That's why in Canada kids come with their dad or mom to take the gun safety course. You don't just hand a kid a firearm.
@CAPTAiNC
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this exact comment on garand thumbs video
@PaulHarrell
Жыл бұрын
I have read many comments on the subject of people being careless with .22 LR firearms. There are a lot of people who underestimate the power, range, and lethality of firearms in caliber .22 LR Perhaps we'll do a demonstration on this topic.
Sometimes you can just feel the hate. Sometimes you can hear the stupidity.
@Idothinkysaurus
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes they're one and the same.
@youbetterwakeup2449
Жыл бұрын
There's a thin line between brave and stupid. There's an even thinner line between stupid people that hate everybody smarter than them.
@gregknipe8772
Жыл бұрын
seek first to understand, then to be understood. dont eddy out in your own thoughts.
Sage advice old boy. I was often put to "pull pits" at the rifle range as a young enlisted man.(european) Having thousands of rounds hurled in your direction at the same time as you familiarize yourself with your weapon was extremely valuable to me when judging how close incoming rounds are hitting in proximity to you and others. Most say you only have experience a near miss once and you never forget the sound instinctively. You did a good job capturing this effect here.
@wobblysauce
Жыл бұрын
Only the one that hits you sounds different.
@stevecooper2873
Жыл бұрын
@@wobblysauce Some say that you never hear the one that hits you ;-)
@gregkis
Жыл бұрын
Advice*
@Ulyssestnt
Жыл бұрын
@@gregkis happy?:p
@Ulyssestnt
Жыл бұрын
@@stevecooper2873 I'm not talking about the one that hits you,I'm talking about judging how close impacting rounds hit to your position. There definitely is a very distinct sound that a very close impact makes. You kind of have to experience it first hand. That being said,this video comes close and gives valuable advice.
Being a part of the military, one of our graduation requirements for basic training was to complete a course where we crawl through a simulated battlefield while we're being shot at by a M240. Really the shots in this video dont do it justice, even if they were shooting probably 30 feet over my head, I could feel the pressure that each shockwave gave out in my ears (even wearing earpro) and sinuses. I could also see the glow of the tracers on the floor in front of me when they passed overhead which was pretty cool too!
@Bank_Da_Bread
Жыл бұрын
when did your grandson go to boot? I was at MCRD San Diego back in 2017, and during the crucible, or any of the prac app events that involved crawling, the gunfire was simulated via speakers. We were never shot at while crawling like they reenacted in that Jarhead scene.
@KcTries
Жыл бұрын
@@Bank_Da_Bread Grandson? Heh Ill assume you're talking about me. I went to Fort Leonard Wood.
@Bank_Da_Bread
Жыл бұрын
@@KcTries lol my bad b. Wrote this comment around 6 this morning with very little sleep. Mistook graduation for grandson. Intriguing they shot at you with live rounds
@KcTries
Жыл бұрын
@@Bank_Da_Bread All good lol! And yeah it was super cool, one of the highlights of BCT for sure
@bret8369
Жыл бұрын
@@Bank_Da_Bread it’s called the Night Infiltration Course and every soldier will complete it during basic training. They shoot like 30 feet over your head.
I was talking with a coworker about new years eve and what all he did the other day and he told me something interesting. He said that over the night people had shot guns in the air as is tradition for a lot of people to do. However his neighbors car had the back glass hit by a falling 9mm bullet. This wasn't out in the country, this was in a residential area of town. The ignorance of irresponsible gun owners makes us all look bad and judged harshly by the general public.
@davidburroughs2244
Жыл бұрын
There's a video on yt about that happening irl to a lady who was gusting with two guys who were arguing. She collapsed and they wondered if she had a heart attack or the like. She died. The 9mm round that killed her was fired from about 1800 yds away and had been fired up in the air and out of the shooters simple exuberance. He got in major legal difficulties out of that negligence. Good to remember, what goes up must come down - best for us to remember that whenever we are shooting
@jgcelliott1
Жыл бұрын
Can't remember exactly where, but a couple of years ago a guy was shot by police in his own backyard over this exact same "tradition". Guy was firing a rifle, in the air, in town, multiple times. Can't say it was a surprise ending. .
@chipsdubbo5.56
Жыл бұрын
I lived in a medium sized city as a kid, and on new years my neighbor across the street in the cul-de-sac shot a shotgun in the air (I'm assuming birdshot) but he was drunk as a skunk 😂
@kewlbri125
Жыл бұрын
Every Fourth of July the police where I live remind the public not to do this by remembering an7-year-old boy who was killed by a falling bullet.
@youbetterwakeup2449
Жыл бұрын
This sort of moronic behavior has been going on for years. There have been a few interviews with people that think their bullets will just "burn up in the atmosphere"...........Unfortunately, they never seem to get hit by their own projectiles, it's always someone innocent that suffers for their lack of cognitive function.
Years ago me and a few work buddies were hunting a tree line for rabbit and squirrel. The 180 acre farm we were hunting belonged to an uncle of one of the guys, so we had permission to hunt there. All of a sudden I heard these sssst sounds pass by my head and hit the leaves of the tree behind me. Me and my friends were all ex GI's except for the son of one. We all hit the deck and spread out in combat formation. A second shot (turned out to be a shotgun) buzzed over our heads. Once we saw the shooter (about 75yards away) we opened up on him. All of us had shotguns except me, I had a .22rimfire autoloader. After about 4 volleys we saw the shooter break away and jump into a white pickup truck and take off down the road. One of the guys had a Motorola flip phone and made contact with 911. About 20 minutes later a deputy sheriff met up with us and advised they caught the guy. Apparently he had broke into the house and stolen the shotgun. He was charged with 8 counts of attempted murder, home invasion and a few other charges. He was a repeat offender and got 25yrs, no parole. So, yes, I know what it is like being shot at.
Paul is correct in regards to hunters knowing what gunfire coming at them sounds like, me and my father were out hunting many years ago and somebody over the hill decided to start taking target practice in their backyard. Obliviously lobbing bullets into the tree line about 75 yards to our left next to us. They were shooting a semi auto rifle and were shooting in large volleys. I'm just thankful he didn't change his aim or he might have found a shot coming back. Always know your target AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT.
Great vide, as usual! A friend ( that I really, really trust) and I recently experimented with this. I stood behind the 4000 gallon water tank on my ranch and had my friend shoot within 5 feet of the tank (we set up a marker) at a target 150 yards away. Tried it with 22lr, 7.62X39 and Creedmore. The audible report, from a bullet breaking the sound barrier, eleven feet from you, is a VERY DIFFERENT sound than the muzzle report. More like a relaly big firecracker. After that, I really feel for the military guys who have post traumatic stress disorder.
@theRPGmaster
Жыл бұрын
That "crack" sound also warrants wearing earpro, even if you are far enough away from the shooter (in cases where bullets passing nearby is intentional & safe)
I have examples for two of the situations. First one was my college professor. He was out during the rifle deer season creeping along a ridgeline looking down into some hollows. He hears a "Zip!" fly past him then sees an impact hit a tree just in front of him. He hit the deck and started yelling. There were two more "Zips" followed by rifle reports some distance away. He continued yelling as he backed down below the ridge. The foliage was pretty thick so he was of the opinion they were shooting at something else totally oblivious that he was in the line of fire. Second one, brother in law was a county policeman. He got called in on an incident during the bow season. Early in the day two bow hunters came across a bear hunter who was using a rifle. They exchanged pleasantries then went their separate ways. Later that evening the bow hunters were setting up a remote camp back in a couple miles. One of them was in the tent when he heard his buddy greet someone. They must have been a bit of a distance away because the buddy made a louder greeting. Then there was a boom followed by silence. Guy in the tent asked his buddy "Hey, what happened?" Silence... Guy came out of the tent and found his buddy obviously deceased and way beyond any help. Fearing for his own safety he left most of the gear and booked it out of there and straight to a phone to call the police station. Turns out the bear hunter had begun drinking that morning. By the time he came across the bow hunters he was well beyond a buzz. He somehow convinced himself that the bow hunters were invading on his bear hunt. So in a moment drunken rage he shot at the bowhunter with a 7mm Mag. When he realized he actually hit the guy he panicked and took off. His wife turned him in after he tried to convince her to help him cover it up.
@markm0000
Жыл бұрын
What a sad story.
@jesusofbullets
Жыл бұрын
He thought BOW hunters were intruding on a BEAR hunt? I feel bad for the guy who died so absolutely pointlessly by a moron.
@tibzig1
Жыл бұрын
Of course, alcohol had to be involved. No dearth of fools who mix it with firearms.
@joshuagavaghan224
Жыл бұрын
Alcohol is responsible for way too high a percentage of stupidity. Half this country is dangerously stupid sober. Drunk? Hopeless.
@andrewstambaugh8030
Жыл бұрын
@@tibzig1 A lot more than alcohol too. Alcohol does not invent things, it lowers inhibitions. He had to already have been allowing bad mental patterns for them to run wild.
The Mythbusters did a good episode on the results of bullets fired upward. Their conclusion was that a bullet fired straight up would come back down without being able to cause much injury, but if the angle deviates from 90 degrees by much, the flight was ballistic and potentially deadly.
@pepebeezon772
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, for it to fall down the bullet needs to have lost all the initial kinetic energy acquired from the powder's explosion (directed upward) to gravity (directed in the opposite direction). The speed of the should be the terminal velocity of the bullet which is now just a falling object.
@user-vk2cd9qw7i
Жыл бұрын
it should be noted that it's very difficult to shoot directly up. It's not like a video game where you cannot look further up than straight up, you are very likely to not shoot at 90 degrees vertically
@applejacks971
Жыл бұрын
'Potentially deadly' as if it hit someone, or may or may not be deadly if it hit someone? That are several cases where people have been killed by falling bullets. One was a 9mm shot in the air from over a mile a way...came down and killed the guy it hit.
@sethtenrec
Жыл бұрын
@@applejacks971 Exactly, I can’t believe people are relying on MythBusters
@gregcampwriter
Жыл бұрын
@@applejacks971 Potentially deadly in the way that all bullets are when shot at the usual angle.
Man, I would like to see a video on staying safe while camping alone or even with a loved one.
Don’t underestimate how “different” people can be way way out in the boonies (and I mean way out). I can absolutely see something like that as an idea of humor to some people I have met out where there’s nothing.
My condolences on the standard-capacity magazines that were recently misplaced. Great video as usual.
@paisleyprince5280
Жыл бұрын
I missed them as well
@bhoward9378
Жыл бұрын
Boating safety in Oregon has really taken a downturn in recent weeks. Terrible losses. I'm just glad everyone has managed to swim ashore safely.
@chipsdubbo5.56
Жыл бұрын
Did laws change in Oregon?
@whoshotashleybabbitt4924
Жыл бұрын
@@bhoward9378 nothing short of a miracle.
@KH-rt3ef
Жыл бұрын
Oregon. They’re right there on the ocean, you know? Everybody gets out in a boat once in awhile.
Back in the late '80s or early '90s, I attended rangemaster School. One of the instructors was giving a presentation on negligent retention, specifically the legal ramifications of not maintaining accurate qualification records. One of the things that I will never forget was a comment he made. Should litigation occur, he asked would you like to be judged by 12 people who are too stupid to get out of jury duty. It's been at least 30 years and I can still hear those words like he spoke them yesterday.
@troy3456789
Жыл бұрын
Still seems preferable to being carried by 6 close friends or relatives, while children and wife are nearby that genuinely needed you alive and healthy.
@jackpippenstock1104
Жыл бұрын
Some citizens believe in the rule of law and choose to serve as jurors out of civic duty; with our individual actions we choose the society we wish to live in.
@adventureswithfrodo2721
Жыл бұрын
This doesn't seem relevant.
@sethtenrec
Жыл бұрын
@@jackpippenstock1104 well said
@Jcaeser187
Жыл бұрын
@@troy3456789 not to me. It would be ok for my family and I won't have any spouse. Being the victim of the broken justice system is shameful and guarantees a long life of suffering.
I've been shot at four times over the years. Once accidentally, three times close to me to scare me away from the area I was legally in. This happens regularly in public land where locals "have claim" over fishing/camping/hunting spots. They want you to run away and tell your friends to avoid that area in the future.
For anyone interested, Paul has excellent videos on concealment vs cover behind vehicles, wood cabins, beds, interior walls and so on. I highly recommend them as they are relevant to the first part of this presentation, hiding before attempting to signal.
“Amalgamate”, your videos don’t just increase my firearms knowledge, but my vocabulary is also expanded significantly! Thank you Paul! 🙂
@LowdownBoy
Жыл бұрын
I think he should have said "consolidate" am I wrong? idk lol
@peterruiz6117
Жыл бұрын
He taught me that 'Germaine' is not just a singer's name....Ya...I'm small town....
@FrankJmClarke
Жыл бұрын
Well Paul knows about fillings :)
@brokeandtired
Жыл бұрын
Its easy to tell if its intentional by the dropping bodies next to me, also confirms the attacker is a bad shot.
@surfingonmars8979
Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Brooklyn. Dunno about “in the field” but do know the difference between July 4 and New Years gunfire, and “holy shit, that dude is shooting at us….RUN!” LOL. When they are shooting at you, you can hear the bullet whizzing by, and usually a glass window breaking, or a ricochet, or a PLUNK sound when the round hits old bricks, or CLUNK if it hits some dude’s head. LOL
When I was a kid, I was skidooing on our fields. There was a huge dump of snow overnight and the next day was clear and sunny out. As I was ripping along, I started seeing snow skipping up beside me. So as I come to a stop, some snow kicks up right in front of my skidoo just as I hear the report. Naturally, I high-tailed it out of there, zig-zagging all the way back home. My father, uncles, and some cousins quickly strapped up and surrounded the area but only found tracks going to and from our fence line and the nearest road to our property. They were able to track the vehicle tracks all the way back to the nearest main highway where the tracks were lost in the other tire tracks. I think whoever it was, they were intentionally messing with me. Every time there is a good dump of snow on them fields, that memory of that day comes back.
@bureaucratbayonet
Жыл бұрын
Read this like 23 Skidoo and thought you just meant being a child but old timey
@clamum9648
Жыл бұрын
That seems very odd someone would've intentionally targeted a random kid. Did your family have enemies? That would make more sense. Still though, seems likely it was unintentional IMO.
@3nertia
Жыл бұрын
@@clamum9648 I think you underestimate just how dumb AND cruel some people can be ...
@MegadethTillDeth
Жыл бұрын
That's a fuckin' nuts story if true.
@Lexicologist1971
Жыл бұрын
@@clamum9648 you seem to be denying that monsters exist.
Thank god Paul Harrell is making videos. I couldn't get to sleep
Great topic! My family and I were mushroom picking one year and had a hailstorm of bullets hitting the gravel road all around us. We were on private timber company property, but it had signage allowing public entry. That was adjacent to public state forest and BLM. I yelled "stop shooting" and "hold your fire" repeatedly, but I don't think they could hear me over the gunfire. We had to just run in the opposite direction. My guess is they were target shooting on top of a ridge with no backstop. But at the time it really seemed like they were shooting at us. Bullets were impacting the road not 20 feet from us.
That doorway video case also is a good illustrator of how nice it is to have good neighbors. The man's neighbor was on local news after he was essentially exonerated by a grand jury (no charges were pressed, but none would be after a grand jury failed), saying that it was murder and how terrible it was. I'm glad I live somewhere where the neighbors would be more likely to offer their backhoe.
@davidburroughs2244
Жыл бұрын
Don't have a backhoe, do have a pick up and a couple of shovels...
@Grunttamer
Жыл бұрын
@@davidburroughs2244 my hoa keeps a roll of carpet for this very reason
@Oscar-ds2vb
Жыл бұрын
for all we know that might just be an actor the "local" news used for propaganda purposes.
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
@@Oscar-ds2vb That is most likely the case, the news is 99.9..% scripted.
@seektruth3307
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I believe that POS neighbor was actually in the video near the end complaining about the man shooting this home invader. He was definitely had a problem with a dead home invader.
Paul's knowledge is the only thing that scares Chuck Norris!
@Tadicuslegion78
Жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris checks his closet for Paul Harrell
@albertorr740
Жыл бұрын
@@Tadicuslegion78 HAHAHA! He'd better!
So well said, throughout! Thank you for making this video, Paul!
Love your videos Paul. You cover each aspect of the topic thoroughly.
I'm one of those hunters who had an "indecent" while deer hunting in NE Texas. I was a teen in the 1960s when my dad was teaching me to hunt deer. Dad was a veteran of heavy combat in WWII in the S. Pacific. As we moved slowly through thick woods a loud rifle report followed the noise of bullet ripping through limbs right over our heads. Dad instantly dove onto the ground and I followed as I quickly as I could. Dad began to shout at the top of his lungs, "Hey, there are people over here." We heard no more and assumed it was a mistake. But it was also an event that I have never forgotten. Thankfully, all was safe. But we were on private family owned property. Assumably the shooter was trespassing and left with haste. As to "sound down range: Working the "pits" below a berm at a shooting range allows one to hear bullets 8 feet overhead, this great "practice" for hearing bullets downrange. ALSO: Thanks for your great videos!!!
@warrenharrison9490
Жыл бұрын
Can imagine your Dad was extremely pissed. His combat experience and training kicked in. 😮
@jennifernichols9468
Жыл бұрын
Pulling targets in the butts is great practice and experience about bullets going close by you.
@Serahpin
Жыл бұрын
I really hope you meant incident. I don't _want_ to know what indecent things happened with you and the deer.
@taraswertelecki3786
Жыл бұрын
I would have taken cover then readied myself to return fire if I came under fire on my own land. The first thing I WILL assume is that someone intends to kill me or a loved one......idiots with guns be warned.
@Serahpin
Жыл бұрын
@@taraswertelecki3786 You can't say that.
"Incoming fire has right of way" I've been on the receiving end of incoming fire... when you're behind the berm it's exciting... when you're not, it's a little more than exciting. The decision of wether or not the return fire is not always cut and dried. As always, insightful and educational.
Thank you for your time and consideration for making this video Paul!
I know of a handful of people who have been accidentally shot at while hunting, including my wife and my father-in-law, and a few people that have been intentionally shot at (on public lands). And while I haven't had shots in my direction, I've experienced a few unexpected close range shots from hidden hunters who didn't know I was close (I was wearing orange every time, one time they were duck hunting and not wearing orange)
I had “B” happen to me when I was a teenager. It wasn’t hunting season and me and my friend were out in the open. It was some older guys trying to scare us. Not knowing how good of shots they were we obliged and took cover. After a few more rounds they left. We went the other way. They were shooting .22s. I’ve had out of state hunters , who weren’t supposed to be on the ranch my buddy and I were hunting on, not see either of us 50yds away. Our state requires orange , these guys were in camo. They didn’t know either one of us was there until we both yelled. They were walking with the wind so they already scared off all the deer. We were both standing in the open and they still had trouble seeing us. I also had a friend that was hunting black powder in Pennsylvania and was walking across an open meadow and was wearing orange. He got shot in the calf of the leg by another hunter who was only about 75 yds away. The other hunter said he thought he was a deer. Apparently not all hunters can see fluorescent orange either.
@jessewalby6631
Жыл бұрын
That's so true, why I stopped wearing orange while hunting and switched out to white. Have had a couple guys take shots at me while wearing orange but never with white so far.
@Jacob_Overby
Жыл бұрын
These people that can't see jack shit should not even approach a gun let alone hunt. I refuse to believe that they are "accidents".. you can clearly observe through a scope if it's an animal or a human in camo. It's a ridiculous concept to me, so I don't understand. The way I see it, they see that opportunity to kill another human being and think to themselves "I can get away with this" and when they miss and when you yell they'll come to their senses..
@Ravello1111111111111111111
Жыл бұрын
There should be a colorblind test to require to get a hunting permit
@FishFind3000
Жыл бұрын
@@Ravello1111111111111111111 colorblind and vision requirements. If you can’t see get glasses, if you still cant see your not in any capacity to shoot.
@dennishein2812
Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob_Overby people who are too quick to shoot or just see part of a rack and don’t look to see if it’s another hunter carrying that rack on his back tend to use “ I didn’t see him” or “I thought he was a deer/elk” as an excuse. That’s why in our hunter education we teach people not to use a rifle scope to locate or identify game but use binoculars and clearly identify what you are about to shoot.
Great video Paul. Also, Garand Thumb did a video in late 2022 where he had someone )safely) fire rounds near him and his camera. Something like 5.56, .308 and .50 BMG at distances of 500, 800 and 1000 yd. Really good watch. Crazy to hear the rounds whiz by and then the report 1-2 seconds later.
@Daniel-rk3vf
Жыл бұрын
Here it is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/anyYyduod8ffhpM.html
@TheDkb427
Жыл бұрын
That was a cool video. I was at the range shooting steel with my 40 and 9 and made a bad shot which caused the bullet to come back and whiz by my head. Shit was scary as hell.
@heraclitus6100
Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-rk3vflol I just clicked your link, and lo and behold, there was the talking balaclava! Edit: okay well I dropped a link to a video by Administrative Results getting "shot at" with a German MG-34 but I guess that hyperlink was too offensive for lube tube, so the comment got taken down. smh.
@ctc2469
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6KrsZpmcczanaw.html
@departed402
Жыл бұрын
Garand Thumb and Paul live close enough to collaborate.
Been watching for a few years now as always a great presentation/video. Keep up the good work Paul.
Absolutely one of your best yet. Considering such a random but realistic topic! Thankyou Paul!!
Me and some friends were bass fishing on a tiny private lake. It was overcast, and we could hear shotgun fire from a local gun range. It started to sprinkle intermittently. All of a sudden one of the raindrops struck me on the leg. It stung like hell! It was summer, so we thought it might be a bit of hail (late summer I northern Minnesota can have frozen precipitation any time without severe weather). Finally, putting the pieces together, we realized that we were being hit by birdshot and we rowed back to a safer spot to resume fishing. That's my story of being shot by accident.
@fernando47180
Жыл бұрын
oh damn! At least you didn't catch any on your eyes or something.
Being an "older" citizen I can attest to the fact that it is much more difficult to get out of trouble than to get into it! If someone says get off my property I have a gun you best be moving your butt Pronto! Also remember the police are not your friends they are supposed to gather the facts but a lot of times just take the easiest way to close the case if that means you're guilty in their eyes well enough said!! Great subject matter Paul thank you sir clear consice and thought provoking! 👍
@FreedomInc
Жыл бұрын
They take the route which is easiest to oppress. I'm really surprised after the last two years especially. That peoppe haven't opened their eyes to what the police really are. The red coats were the british policing forces of the day. Loook whst men praised for founding this country did to them. Try citing where in our constitution that we the people gave government the authority to police society. You can't. Because if government had authority over you. Then you wad never intended to be free. And no, the 10th amendment doesn't give the state the authority to give itself authority over me. People should really read jeffersons, Maddison, and almost.eveey founders writings about self governance. The lie is far larger than most could ever begin to imagine. We were all born into tyranny
@PartTimeGoblinSlayer
Жыл бұрын
I'm 30, ex army and I currently live with family. I may be right or wrong but personally I wouldn't have done anything different. The guy was fore warned and still violently persisted on breaking and entering. There's no way to tell if he had a weapon and unarmed people can be dangerous too. Once I've fully warned you in my mind the consequences fall on you. You know what's gonna happen if you continue so if you choose to it's on you. The law may disagree but that's that's my rules of engagement as a civilian. My family's safety comes first. Lucky I live in a state with castle doctrine.
@FreedomInc
Жыл бұрын
@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer what is the reasoning for cops and puppets always needing to use logic fallacy? It doesn't make your reasoning any more valid then the people who are obviously far more intelligent than you are. You are not wrong. But there is zero point to try to give your point validation. Especially when that validation let's anyone with a brain know that you are not very bright. Hell, if you spent any time executing goat herders. You killed them reguardless of the circumstances. "Rule of engagement " doesn't make it just. It makes you dim for believing you were there for a just reason.
@sethtenrec
Жыл бұрын
@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer I also live in a state with castle doctrine, and I realize my porch and yard are not included. But one step inside the door and that’s all it takes.
@cs-rj8ru
Жыл бұрын
Maybe so. In some places (Such as Maine) its traditional for hunters to wander on land to hunt so long as it's not "Posted" no trespassing. If a man happens to walk across my land, well so what? As long as he didn't cause trouble or steal something, why should I respond as a prick?
Thank you for more information to add to the vault. You do an outstanding job with your presentations.
As always Paul, your words are good as gold. Thank you.
I’ve been shot at 3 times in the US (not counting the sandbox or the rock pile): twice were only vaguely in my direction - one was an idiot shooting across the road at a common shooting range because he wanted a longer shot and the second was a ricochet from the guy next to me (that hit his truck, karma strikes again). The first, however, was most definitely on purpose: how do I know? I watched him step out from cover (at a high school) and shoot directly at me. Your point on “if the shots follow you it’s probably on purpose” rings very true for me - truly hostile fire from anyone other than an expert tends to be pretty obvious, an expert on the other hand will simply hit you with the first shot, so you don’t have to worry about determining intent.
@norwegroletsplay2250
Жыл бұрын
Who shot at you at school?
@infantjones
Жыл бұрын
At school? Was this part of a larger event or?
@crazysilly2914
Жыл бұрын
@@infantjones chicago
@LeCharles07
Жыл бұрын
Ricochets are wild. Only had one come back one time and it hit my dad in the leg. We heard the plink of the steel target then "zip, smack" and my dad sits down on the ground grabbing his leg. We immediately freaked out thinking he caught a full bullet but thank god it was just the separated jacket. I've taken target plate angling a lot more seriously since day.
@LeCharles07
Жыл бұрын
@@crazysilly2914 Lol. You know Chicago isn't even in the top 60 most dangerous cities in the US in 2022, right? Of course you don't, you one of *those* people. /spit
I'm not a camper or hunter. My several experiences of gunfire are in built-up environments. People's reactions are first freeze, then run/take cover if it's nearby. But then curiosity sets in. Heads appear in windows, above walls and people look in the direction of the gunfire. I've had the same feelings of curiosity but told myself to stay put. Late one Sunday evening in suburbia prolonged, rapid gunfire started. I heard bullets striking houses nearby. I looked in the general direction and saw other people doing the same. There was nothing to see. Then I saw people intentionally walking towards the gunfight, very strange.
Your videos just get better and better Paul. Thanks for your wisdom.
Your videos are always great Paul, they never let down. You seem a very reasonable and smart man to me, thanks for the videos.
Got plinked at once in Afghanistan from far enough away that I couldn't hear the muzzle blast over background noise, just the zip and buzz of the bullets, and it surprises me how close that .22LR sounded to how I remember the 7.62 sounding. As always, great video. Thanks, Paul.
@clotz1820
Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, size of bullet is not much different so the sound is similar
@superfamilyallosauridae6505
Жыл бұрын
@@clotz1820 proportional to a human body, they're all quite tiny projectiles. the speed is the danger
@richardlooch2109
Жыл бұрын
@@clotz1820 size is very different. if it is a 7.62x39 then it is about 3 times heavier than a 22lr. if it is a 7.62x54r it is about 3.5 - 4 times heavier than 22lr.
@FreeAmerican-mm2my
Жыл бұрын
@@richardlooch2109 Are you sure everything is not the same size as an AR 15?
@LikePhoenixFromAshes
Жыл бұрын
This has all to do with speed of the bullet. It was most definitely 7,62x39 and at distances so long you don't even hear the muzzle report, this bullet is travelling so slow it don't make a sonic boom crack. Every projectile, regardless of the shape and size, makes some kind of whizzing sounds then. Supersonic projectiles also makes them, but the whizzing is masked by the loud sharp crack of the sonic boom. If it was Mosin-Nagant and it's 7,62x54r with MUCH heavier and faster bullet, you would hear not only loud crack, but also whizz and thud delayed by speed of sound. Proof is film on YT titled "Shooting Rifle Towards Camera At Long Range Full Video" by Cody'sLab.
Thank you for another great video. I live in one of the "nicer Detroit neighborhoods". That being said, we have had quite a large number of shootings and murders. I mentioned to a coworker once that I frequently hear gunshots at night, and I know they are gunshots. They reply that I'm only hearing firecrackers. I have to tell them what I heard are the same firecrackers that killed my childhood friends just 50 feet from my home a few years earlier. 🙁
@darthawesomness
Жыл бұрын
my four years in the SWATS of Atlanta taught me the same thing, as did my classmates coming to class on clutches because they caught a stray.
@FreeAmerican-mm2my
Жыл бұрын
@@darthawesomness Maybe they were just hit with fireworks.
@ericw3229
Жыл бұрын
There are no "Nicer areas" in the hell hole known as Detroit
@thyme4thought422
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, there is no mistaking the consistent gunfire in midnight daytwah. Moved to what was considered by locals to be a bad area in another state and feel safer than I ever did through my childhood and early adulthood in the murder mitten.
I really enjoy your delivery style Mr. Harrell! Great presentation!!
Thank you once again Mr. Harrell for the sage advise and for giving us plenty to think about if this were to happen.
3:18 - my own personal story about something like this. I'm an Archaeologist, and a couple of years ago I was doing a survey for a planned new power infrastructure installation. The land we were surveying on we had permission to be on, but the abutting plots of land were owned by people who (I was told at the time) were very hostile to this development, and had even harassed other crews in the same general area. Whilst we were digging, we suddenly heard the sound of rifle fire (I assumed at the time something like .300blk or 6.5 Grendel) and the very noticeable whirring of bullets close to us. Our crew chief immediately had us pull out, but the shooting continued (and the bullets seemed to stay the same distance away from us the whole time, even as we were moving), even after our crew chief repeatedly hollared at whoever it was to cease fire and that whoever it was was endangering us, until we hit the paved road our crew trucks were parked on and began to pack up to head to another area. Someone shooting carelessly without a backstop or concern for what's downrange? Someone trying to scare us off the land? Who's to say.
I just turned 48 and I live with extensive Emphysema and COPD. I can’t tie my boots without losing my breath. My fighting days have passed me by. I have to take care of myself effectively and efficient. I Pray 🙏🏼 I never have to find a situation that requires it. God Bless us all with Protection and Safety! ❤️🇺🇸🖖🏼
@sethtenrec
Жыл бұрын
“God created man but Sam Colt made them equal” Disclaimer, I’m pretty much of an agnostic but still love this quote.
Another piece of advice is to use "time, distance, and cover". Take time to size up the situation and get a better idea of what's happening; put distance between yourself and potential threats so they can't reach you as easily; use cover/concealment (and PPE) to protect or hide yourself. Of course, all to the degree possible in the situation
There was a kid (maybe very young teen) on a neighboring piece of property who was firing in an indiscriminate manner, and some of the bullets went across my property behind and parallel to my house. I can tell you that the sound was most certainly "different" than the sound of firing AWAY from you, and I have done plenty of shooting at ranges in the past. I didn't hear the "whiz" of the bullets as they were just far enough away that the house masked that. However, there was little guessing that something wasn't right in this case. That is the one instance where I called the police about gunfire. Where I live, people shoot on private property, no big deal, I do it, too. However, I have a backstop and there is no place in my normal direction of fire that may have people at any reasonable distance (miles of space as confirmed by both eyeball and using online maps). That kid was just popping shots rapid fire in their backyard. I don't think there were any parents home when he did it. By the time the police did come out and talk to me, the parents had come home. The police then went and talked to the neighbors. That way maybe a couple of years ago now, and it hasn't been repeated. So, never count out sheer dumbassery in a situation.
@eloiseharbeson2483
Жыл бұрын
In Florida you can be prosecuted for "trespassing with a weapon" if your bullets go onto someone else's property. I don't know of anyone down here that would recognize three shots as a distress signal. Plenty of shooting all year long and most hunting shotguns are limited to three shots.
I cannot even imagine the mindset it would take to think "I'm going to prank that guy buy shooting at him".
Great presentation Paul, Thank You
Very very helpful Thank You...I like the pause and going forward...You Rock Paul Harrell! Always enjoy!
Years ago I was squirrel hunting on private land that very few hunted on (it belonged to a friend of mine and he mostly bird hunted on it but allowed me and a few others to small game hunt on it when he wasn’t bird hunting) i was sitting under a tree in a rather heavily forested and brushy area when I heard some rustling a ways off. As I sat there the rusting got closer and louder. Try as I might I could not see what was causing the noise. It didn’t really sound like a man but then it didn’t sound like an animal either. The rusting would start and stop at random and seemed to get closer but then would seem it may be getting farther away. It seemed to be coming towards me then would move to my left. After about 10 minutes or so of this all of a sudden I hear a 12 gauge go off in my direction and a load of shot hit the tree I was sitting under about 10 feet above me and a squirrel fell in my lap dead. I hollered hey there is someone here!!! Who ever it was made haste out of there faster than Jessie Owens. I never could see who it was but am sure it was a trespasser who wasn’t supposed to be there. I told my friend about it and he said he knows people come on his land and poach but couldn’t catch them red handed. That really scared me.
That's easy. Intentional gunfire always sounds more motivated and determined
Outstanding Presentation, Thank You, Paul
I enjoy how you break things down into logical steps and situational differences. Keep up the great work and thank you for giving us so much to think about.
I have a few relevant stories, but only one is personal. Two were at public gun ranges. Some friends were at a range, and while changing their targets, some guys pulled up in a pickup truck, and started shooting at their targets while they were still downrange. They yelled at the guys in the pickup truck, and the threw their guns back into the truck and drove off really fast. My personal story was kind of similar. This was during a cease fire at the range. People were down range changing targets, the red cease fire lights were flashing. Two guys came in without checking in, set up, and started shooting in the next lane over from mine. I heard what I described as a zipping sound... although the description of a hiss is probably more appropriate, and saw the impact in the berm behind my target. The range master called out over the PA, and came over to confront the two guys, who picked up their guns and ran back to their vehicle. The range master took their license plate number as they drove off and I believe contacted the police. The final was very different. A friend went out to one of the local fish and wildlife areas to hunt. He'd been doing this for several years in the same spot. Some people in a blind a ways off started shooting in his direction. They were angry and trying to scare him off. It turned out that a hunting club had made an arrangement with the fish and wildlife area to hold raffles for hunting areas. The club didn't make any of the public announcements they were supposed to about the raffles, and never posted about it at the area sign-in area. The people who had been drawn were angry because there were intruders on what they thought was supposed to be their exclusive hunting area. The hunting club was actually trying to make the area exclusive for their members, which is why they never announced anything. Their agreement was voided after the first week, after several incidents similar to this being reported.
@DinoNucci
Жыл бұрын
Tldr
@filonin2
Жыл бұрын
@@DinoNucci Ritalin. Get some.
@Lotvk
Жыл бұрын
@@filonin2 man comments "tldr" on a Harrell video and your first thought wasn't that he's joking? maybe you should go take some prescribed meth
@youbetterwakeup2449
Жыл бұрын
Just more proof there aren't enough asylums and state supported living centers to house all of these people.
@geezerp1982
Жыл бұрын
in europe get shot at by careless or pissed up hunters seems to be the norm over there especially in france . in the UK we can only shoot on private land .
Myself and a few of my family together hunt deer on a decent sized piece of land that is enough to spread out and, emphasizing everyone being very clear about each other’s locations and fields of fire, hunt for years without incident and make many good memories. Last year my brother and I were leaning against an oak on the last night of rifle season, and with our tags still valid for archery/late doe seasons we opted to pass on a doe about 50 yards to our left that continued on behind us out of sight. No more than 30 seconds after its passing, we heard the unmistakeable report of a rifle behind us from the direction of where the doe likely went after we lost sight of it. In hindsight we both acknowledged hearing the crack of the bullet passing near us, but whether it was shock or obliviousness we didn’t react immediately. Then, a second shot a few seconds later (and much closer) sent us simultaneously to the ground yelling something to the effect of “hey don’t shoot, we’re over here!” A third shot somehow closer than the second then made me feel the most helpless I ever have. We just laid there on the ground behind the tree, and I eventually called my uncle who was on the other side of the property. He came flying down the adjacent county road to see what was happening. Turns out a local idiot who didn’t have permission on any of the land in the area was driving around “taking pot shots at does” as he described it when my uncle caught up with him, uncle subsequently giving him the chewing of a lifetime for shooting into woods he knows we hunt on the last night of rifle. Point being, you can do everything right but you can never eliminate the wild card that is other people’s bad intentions, lack of awareness, or plain stupidity. Thanks Paul for another great video.
Thanks Paul for your service and your channel!!!👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🤝
Paul is absolutely right about what can happen if you have to defend yourself. The shooting of the ex-boyfriend occurred in Sidney, Ohio. We are a Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine state. Both dad and daughter were interviewed, and the grand jury refused to indict. But the incident made it to media outlets from NY to CA, and pretty much every story I've seen (before Paul's) paints dad as a villain. The 22 Y/O daughter stated her dad saved her life, for which even she's taken grief. And of course local LE is being portrayed as protecting a murderer. Mainstream news networks speak about the dad laughing during the police interview (they teach you in interview classes to try to lighten the mood and put the subject at ease), and the Sun of London states that Dad "gunned him down".
@itsamk18-ish
Жыл бұрын
Ya know I’ve seen that story several times and never realized it happened in Sidney. I live in Dayton,that’s not very far from me lol
@chadwallace3598
Жыл бұрын
The POS broke in, after being warned even. Anybody who sides with criminal is retarded.
@nilknoc101
Жыл бұрын
@@itsamk18-ish I’ve got a buddy who just moved to Sidney, crazy honestly I didn’t know it was there. Law of Self Defense did a good video breaking down the legals of the situation, worth a watch if you’re interested.
@asmith7876
Жыл бұрын
Leave it to the media to get it wrong. I’ve been on the receiving end of inaccurate reporting, the media doesn’t give a shit about facts.
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, the Sun is tabloid trash and everyone knows it. Lending any credence to tabloids is illogical.
Paul Harrell is so extremely articulate on every subject matter he covers showing wisdom beyond years of living, This Man is a Legend a Genius a Scholar a Teacher that gives a broader perspective to what every subjects matter he covers! In My opinion His channel is the best Gun channel on KZread bar none. This younger generation that will take over our world needs Your values and wisdom so much now more than ever Thank You for all You do Paul God Bless You
@zdub8438
Жыл бұрын
Kinda gay NGL
@TheNapalmFTW
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
Another excellent video rationally discussing a scenario that happens with frightening frequency. Thank you, Paul.
Thank you sir for taking time and explaining this.
In that home defense video, the neighbor came to investigate an active shooting scene. You can tell he lived in a protective suburbia cocoon all his life and doesn't recognize the danger he is in.
@jmullner76
Жыл бұрын
That man was the perfect "local yokel."
@deamontana596
Жыл бұрын
I saw that, he was a proud member of the League of Doofuses.
One of the most disconcerting things I ever saw regarding this topic was at a small county airport in southern Indiana, when I was a young fellow. Upon visiting this airstrip while accumulating hours as a young pilot, I had an occasion to walk around and discovered a low-wing Piper airplane that had a bullet hole through the fuselage. It had passed cleanly through the fuselage; entrance hole on the underneath side of the aircraft and exit hole out the top side. The shot was DIRECTLY in line with the left pilot’s seat, only about four feet behind it. 😬😳
@yorkleroy5605
Жыл бұрын
yikes, that is terrifying and infuriating
@zamiryi
Жыл бұрын
In my younger years I hung out with some country boys out in Idaho who would go out every Saturday night to plink at the airplanes with their 22's. At the time I was dumb and thought maybe it would be fun, I never participated but heard plenty of stories they told. I cant imagine being in a Cessna minding my business as I see hole appear in the fuselage.
@bingosunnoon9341
Жыл бұрын
I owned three different airplanes. All had bullet holes. Americans are too stupid to own guns.
@ScottLovenberg
Жыл бұрын
Lucky they didn't lead enough. I saw the same thing on a bus at camp. Someone blew out the window right behind the driver while the bus was empty and on its way to the camp. Intention was clear, trajectory was fortunately not.
@yorkleroy5605
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottLovenberg that's more like premeditated murder, at least with airplanes is probably just some idiots wondering if they can hit it.
Interesting concepts, keeping it fresh and always original. God bless
All excellent advise-----from someone in that position. It is scary as all H+++ when they whiz by you.... Especially when you are on your own property...
As someone who has worked in law enforcement, and later leaving the law enforcement field I can say this. What you might do now with your cell phone is not relevant to an event that happened in say the 1990's or even the 1980's when we all carried bricks for cell phones, and camcorders was about the size of a boom box. Now the last thing, Paul is absolutely right about having ample evidence to back your story. And is why people like me put all kinds of security camera's, game camera's and such up around our place so we can catch poachers, acts of vandalism and intentional shootings.
@donshekn9114
Жыл бұрын
Living in a surveillance state is a two edged sword. You might want to be careful with that.
@Klein-Morretti
Жыл бұрын
@@donshekn9114Being careful won’t change living under surveillance just who has access to it.
@NoName-zn1sb
Жыл бұрын
cameras
@neglectfulsausage7689
Жыл бұрын
@@Klein-Morretti People who choose to live in surveillance states. those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
@ffarmchicken
Жыл бұрын
Never point your security cameras at anything you don’t want seen.
Paul: *enters field exercise* The universe: did someone say shenanigans?
Brilliant, Paul. I’m a retired LEO and agree completely. Yes, deer hunting I had experienced the sound of the slug whizzing by and it was definitely uncomfortable. But, it is something I won’t forget. Keep them coming. Refreshingly intelligent presentation. Thank you, Sir.
@heartysteer8752
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate his effort, but it really didn't capture the sound well from my experience. As he said, maybe most the problem is my speakers. Though I think more distance would have helped.
@SatelliteYL
Жыл бұрын
Wow close call
@sethtenrec
Жыл бұрын
@@heartysteer8752 I heard a couple ricochets but nothing else except the report
@cs-rj8ru
Жыл бұрын
Ah, you haven't really experienced anything until you hunt in SE OH. Akronites plague the woods....Some people just shouldnt be allowed to hunt.
@heartysteer8752
Жыл бұрын
@@sethtenrec Yeah, he needed to be back 300 yards or so to clearly hear the bullet itself.
Very good advice by Paul regarding having evidence that you are legally and ethically justified. Massad Ayoob's book "Deadly Force: Understanding Your Right to Self Defense" illustrates two court cases that show just how harshly one might be judged when exercising their right to self defense. He has given other disturbing examples in other books and articles. Often, even winning the case is a losing proposition. The best option is always to avoid confrontation or evade and escape, whenever possible.
@Ryzot
Жыл бұрын
Removing a human being from existence is an action that must be judged and investigated thoroughly and excessively. It is the final action. There should never be any doubt in making the decision to commit the final action. For there is no way back. People these days take the human life for granted. I believe it's because of one or both of two reasons. One, it could be how much more video coverage we have of war, starting after 9/11 with the war on terrorism. Nearly everyone has seen atleast one video of another human being die violently. This could lead people to become numb to the idea of death. Two, it could be that our lives have become so busy, that the average person never has much downtime to think about such things like what it means to be alive and what it means to die. When we do have downtime, we are always looking for ways to distract ourselves. Video games, T.V., KZread videos, anything to keep ourselves entertained. Because of this, most people have never thought about what it really means to kill a person. And one phrase I use, often in place of words like "kill", is to remove another human being from existence. It emphasizes the seriousness of the situation. When someone shoots and kills another person, they are removing they person from all existence, permanently, forever. And because of the advancement in firearms, this often takes place in just a few seconds. A human being having their whole life, their whole existence, all of their work and everything they have ever dreamed of, disappearing in a second because someone else decided that it was the best course of action. Just sit with that thought for a little while. Don't use your emotions. Use your brain. Really sit with it. Think about life. Think about your life. Think about everything you've done. Think about everything you've been through, both good and bad. Once you've thought about that for a bit, it seems like your life has been pretty large right? You've done a lot. You've made accomplishments, you've failed. You've loved and lost and loved again. You've laughed and cried and have so many memories. And now think about all of it disappearing in the blink of an eye. Such a large life full of experiences. Your life that you hold dear, all turns to black because another person decided that it was the best course of action. That is why I do not agree with the majority of people who claim self defense after they have taken a life. Because I don't believe they really had no other choice. Just like the ring doorbell camera video. The shooter should have waited just a few seconds longer to examine the man's behavior and actions after he has had the time needed to visualize the man holding a firearm and to process that image and understand the threat. This would take about two or three seconds.
Awesome video, especially loved the second half.
1M for this channel by the end of the year!! Thanks Mr Harrell!
Anytime i see the duration over 30 minutes, man it makes my day.
We can tell that this was a tough presentation for you, Paul. Thank you.
Another great conversation.
Paul, you are the only person on KZread who I will listen to and watch the entire video from beginning to end. I ALWAYS learn something new from you! KUDOS to the best channel on KZread for general firearm education!!! Thank you Paul!
Never been shot at thank God, but my dad and grandfather are and were (respectively) hunters. Granted my dad did more "taking his gun for a walk" than actual hunting (my mom made that term up, yes you can use it) and have had stories of careless hunters and their birdshot. My uncle got hit with some gnarly birdshot at one point. Apparently it didnt hurt as much as pissed him the absolute hell off (dad's story not mine). Hell we had a vice president who shot someone by complete accident (again, bird shot). If you ever do go innawoods as us younger kids call "the field", bring a basic trauma kit and a tourniquet. They take next to no room and it may help. Im rambling, its the sperg in me.
@warrenharrison9490
Жыл бұрын
Had a coworker that was accidentally shot by an old timer while out turkey hunting, the old guy touched one off while trying to get up to greet him, took shot to the right side of body and face, thankfully nothing critical, lost a few teeth and still has a hole in his cheek. Crazy what can happen.
@Serahpin
Жыл бұрын
I've heard "taking your gun for a walk" before, so I don't need to steal it from you.
@cavalieroutdoors6036
Жыл бұрын
I refer to it as hiking with my rifle. I actually hunt, I'm just terrible at crossing paths with actual game animals. Thank God for fishing (I'm a far better fisherman) and grocery stores, without those 2 things I would probably starve.
Love this man. Always useful or fun information.
I love what you do man , please keep doing it