Can't believe this was the problem. I removed the solenoid and it worked properly in my hand so I didn't want to cut it. Instead I found a float bowl bolt with gasket from a club car golf cart and it plugged the solenoid hole perfectly 😂 it runs like new 😂 zip tied the wires to the intake manifold, off and mowing. ❤

I've replaced 2 fuel solenoids on my JD e110, my 3rd one just burned out. This worked perfectly and saved me another visit to the mechanic. THANK YOU!

I did this fix on a Murray Tractor today. Fired right up! Can't thank you enough. Saved me time and money.

Very helpful video. You gave me the confidence to forge ahead and try the "disable the fuel solenoid fix," and it worked. Saved ~$250 (including mower pick-up and labor / parts) on our 2005 John Deere LT 180 (Kawasaki motor) and learned some things for future use; thanks much!

A Big Thank You,to good folks such as you.I"ve been fighting a losing battle for 3 days until I watched your how-to-video about disabling fuel solenoid by grinding that little shut-off rod.Works like a champ.Once again Thank You,Brother. Sincerely, Ole Mike! ( Up and Running ) :)

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

Yw

great video! i was tearing my hair out with my B&S riding mower that wasn't starting. i spent a lot of time trying to figure the problem out and then bumped in to this video. as per video, disabled solenoid and my engine starts perfectly now. saved a lot of money...

@LonniesGarage

7 жыл бұрын

David G glad it helped you

I stuck a built 30 hp Kohler on a 1960 Bolens. I use it to plow snow. The motor was so large on such a small frame it made me put the gas tank on the front and the battery on the back where the hitch goes. The wiring was a nightmare but I got it down to 3 toggle switches and a push start. They wanted 118$ for the fuel solenoid. I almost tore the motor off and swap out with an 18 Briggs. My Fuel solenoid looked way different then what you showed. However it gave me the basics and 10 minutes later the tractor fired right up. Thanks dude.

Thank you!! Riding mower started immediately after doing this thanks to your video. I really appreciate this!!!!

Thanks.....x 300 is back running....I was struggling...Great video that saved me time, money and headache!!…...This has been the trouble with this piece of crap all along !!…..More folks need to know about this !!!.....Thank you for sharing

Saved me a bunch... mine had a plastic piece on the end. Broke it off and I can now mow my lawn! Thanks!!!

@taylorrains4320

5 жыл бұрын

Steve did your engine turn over and just not fire or not turn over at all?

DUDE, this works great. This part was 50 bucks for my rider and I could not get this thing to start. I was down and out and ready to give up. I ran across your video and said, I will give it a try. 5 Minutes later the damn thing started right up. Thank you so much for posting this and saving me money and frustration...

@LonniesGarage

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I'm happy that it helped you out also don't forget to put a fuel shut off on the fuel line that goes to your carb

Changing y key start to a push button start with a kill switch this was most likely my last issue, great explanation 👍 👌

I change out new magneto with old one it started right up the black wire is for killing the motor I love looking at u tube and talking to all of yall .and tkx you for ur time.

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

No problem. Happy u got it fixed I know how the small things can drive us all crazy at times.

THANK YOU THIS WORKED FOR MY CUB CADET LT1045

Awesome tip. Im on it tomorrow.

Yes sir! Was ready to spray starting fulid in carb and hold governor wide open until it blew up but luckily I seen your video cut them stem low as the threads with cutting pliers and BAM! First turn of the motor and she had been holding a steady tune. Me and My Briggs and Stratton 15.5 hp thanks you.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Glad this helped you.

Thank you for this. My j d stopped running while o was plowing the driveway. After your repair, I was able to finish and help my neighbor. I ordered the new part. Word for the diy. Keep an eye out for the washer, it goes between the “cup” amd solenoid.

thanks mate works perfectly

Lonnie, today 8/7/20 I solved my issue thanks to your video. My Troy Bilt Pony with a B&S 17.5 HP would run for about 5 minutes and then die. I tried all of the most obvious steps and nothing but I always suspected the engine to somehow be suddenly starved of fuel (wasn't the cap, wasn't the lines. new fuel filter, clean carb) so I removed this solenoid and clipped the rubber tip with pliers. Now the thing runs great and doesn't shut down. I'll go get a fuel shut-off valve from the autoparts store tomorrow. Thanks again.

@LonniesGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Good deal happy u got it figured out.

I just drilled the brass plunger out and have all ports opened on the double threaded stem. Thanks for the video, it was a great help and saved us $116 + shipping for this useless part.

Thanks Lonnie G for your info, i done just what you said with the new shutoff valve and i cut off a piece of the plunger on the solenoid, the mower is working just fine.

You saved me a lot of time, and I thank you for that sir. If you ever need any garage door advice I'm your man. THANK YOU!

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to see this video is still helping others

@Gods-Elect

2 ай бұрын

88 Whats your thoughts on my noisie double garage door am i going to have to replace the wheels?

Thanks,,,,I did it and put shut off valve on,,,like the good old days

Well I'm happy as a buzzard on a gut wagon!!! Went through whole no start process and the plunger was sticking, new carb assembly has maybe 10hrs. Runs like new now...THANK YOU!

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Good deal. Your welcome

@gene2200

2 жыл бұрын

@@LonniesGarage I tell ya I can put together a 500hp old school small block and tune it, these small engines will throw ya a curve. My Harley has a petcock, but also a side draft. Doesn't need to be used Everytime but it's there. Line on my Briggs from pump runs 6" below the fuel inlet, I wouldn't think it would syphon fuel but petcocks aren't over $80+, close it and its all good for few dollars.

Thanks for the video I cut mine off with pliers, I get backfire time to time but overall it fixed my issue. Subscribed.

@walterjohnson8463

Жыл бұрын

Put a turn-off switch on the fuel line and cut the gas off before turning off the switch. Let the motor die from lack of fuel, and it will not backfire.

Thanks Bro, Cut the rod off Motor starred first pull Going to add a manual shut off valve. Keep up the good work

Excellent explanation...just the info I needed...many thanks

Thanks you saved me a mechanic's bill!

@LonniesGarage

7 жыл бұрын

coyotesniper72 happy it helped

Thanks man I just fix my Poulan Pro tractor 🚜 I save a lot of money. Old School

Thanks for the update Lonnie, I have a new carb coming Friday. I will let you know if that fix's the rough idle. Thanks

Thanks. I will tell my brother about this since he told me he is having trouble with the solenoid on his carburetor.

@LonniesGarage

9 жыл бұрын

Your welcome

thank you so much this helped me with my craftsman's it had an ignition issue just snipped that piece off and haven't had problems since.

@LonniesGarage

Жыл бұрын

Good deal. Happy it helped.

Thank you for the info as well

i never grinded but I have used my wire cutters and cut them off and it works its easy and saves you money

@paulkirchner2084

3 жыл бұрын

I ground it off, reinstalled it, works perfect. Thanks

Thanks! This solved my issue.

yes thank you this was helpful

great works ! Thanks

My McCullogh ride-on with 17.5 HP Briggs & Stratton started playing up end of last summer, cutting out randomly for no apparent reason. I began troubleshooting, changing the plug, cleaning and fitting a carbie kit, changing the magneto, checking the safety switches, new fuel and fuel cap etc. This summer was no different, after 3 or 4 minutes running it cut out and I was pulling my hair out. There seemed to be excessive crank case pressure, oil blowing out of the filler cap so I fitted a new head gasket, lapped in the valves, checked the clearances, booted her up and hell!! No different. Now I was really frustrated. I checked the crankcase breather which meant pulling off the flywheel but it was as clean as. Browsing the internet I came across so many suggestions all of which I had tried. Then I saw this. Nah, too simple, can't possibly be the problem, won't work. IT DID.

@allensmith342

4 жыл бұрын

Damn! It would've been cheaper to buy another tractor than to go through all that trouble!

@jrac863

3 жыл бұрын

phil I'm having the same problem with my wacker roller it has the v twin robin engine eh65 22 hp.Starts great runs great for 5 minutes then starts to lope then it shuts down .Wait 10 minutes then starts up again .Do u think i have the same problem.And we rebuilt the entire engine

@philipgeary7555

3 жыл бұрын

@@jrac863 Thing is Jay, it's such an easy fix which would have saved me much time and money, I don't know why they fit them in the first place as my machine has run ever since without any flooding problem at all. At least I got an overhauled engine out of it but could have done without the angst. Good luck with it.

Thanks for the info, 1st thing tomorrow...least I know everything else is adjusted right.

Good video Kicker! They try to do everything they can to make it impossible for people too fix there own stuff.

Thanks that fixed my problem again thanks

Thank you sir From 🇦🇺

Love the small motor repair im in that same ting

Amazing! That's the trick....... Thank you....

Thanks! My Cub Cadet had stopped while mowing. Per this video, I removed the fuel solenoid from the bottom of the carburetor bowl, put it in a vise and hacksawed the plug thing off. There was a burr, so I hit it on the grinder for 1 second or less. Re-assembled it, then it ran like before. Oh yeah, I did clamp off the fuel line before starting the operation.

@LonniesGarage

7 жыл бұрын

Charles R Lanier Jr good deal. Glad it helped you. Please share the video.

Thanks! Was able to fix my mower for free.

@LonniesGarage

7 жыл бұрын

dhoff86 happy it helped.

Good song, praise the Lord! Thanks for the video

Good information thanks

I have 2 ridding mowers that after hot slowly feel like they are starving for fuel. If I pull the choke they will idle up but eventually die. I this this may be my problem. Thank you for the information.

Interesting comments...so I shall add my two cents.....my Afterfire solenoid went bad about ten years ago and I had a horrible backfire when shutting it off....went to get another one and was advised to shorten the shaft by cutting it in half instead of spending the $75 dollars for a new one. Since then the backfire on shutoff is gone....and I have no gas leaking through the carb....I have to agree....another part put on the carb that was never needed.

@mundlkalli4396

5 жыл бұрын

your past issue describes my problem. Only backfires after engine is turned off. Everyone is talking about a fuel shut off valve....where would you install it..../ Any ideas ....thank you

I tried everything to get my mower running, watched your video and tried it, it took minutes and the it started right up, thank you so much

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Happy it helped. God bless

@gene2200

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!!! Went through whole process of elimination 2hrs ago then checked selonoid, it was Hot but clicked. Dark now, I'll try that tomorrow. New plug seems too dry after trying to start numerous times.

Thanks bro save me 3-4 paying someone to fix it. I just ground off tip with bench grinder.Plus save a few hundred in not paying someone else cutting my yard...God Bless

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Happy it helped you

Very Good...

My JD 345 would only try and stay running in the shop if I kept sockin the choke to it because it was starving for fuel. I pulled the carb and sure enough the pilot jet was plugged so I was confident I found the issue. Still wouldn’t stay running so I was ready to pull fuel lines until I watched this video. What do I have to lose. Held my finger over the solenoid hole in carb while my side cutters nipped the plunger off and sure as shit she fired right up. She’s running like a rockstar so Thank you very much for sharing.

@LonniesGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Happy that it helped you.

Thank you.

If you just install a simple in-line fuel shutoff valve between the tank and the carburetor, you wouldn't need a fuel solenoid. Mowers and engines have run fine for decades without them. I've got a John Deere Sabre rider that I use without a battery or starter solenoid and jump start with cables directly at the starter. Once the motor's running, the fuel solenoid circuit is energized through induction.

I replaced the stock carb on my kohler courage 22 because the original carb had a fuel solenoid problem and it was the same price for a new carb. I just took apart my aftermarket carb that is marked AE power because it was acting the same way. Would run if I put fuel in the carb and then quit. It has a new fuel pump which is working. When I took the solenoid off I found that the pin and magnet were a separate piece inside the solenoid body and slid right out. I'm just going to put it back together without the pin and leave the solenoid coil unplugged. It is almost like it was made to do this. Strange.

Sweet. So I could I go as far to unplug the other end of the solenoid wire and use a regular carb nut to screw the bowl on? Then throw the solenoid/nut/wire thing away?

@zylonandtamponhead

6 жыл бұрын

now ur cookin with Grease!!

Got to the point thanks

Would this make a intex motor backfire when you shut it off?

Thanks

just wondering how long it will b b4 fuel starts seeping out of the plastic

I put a new carburetor on my Toro z4200 and the solenoid its getting very hot when I turn the key on and it won't start I've mowed with it twice before then but now it won't start and you can hear the solenoid click on but it gets so hot you can't even touch it! What would be the cause of that?

Can you just find a bolt to fit the bowl instead of grinding off the rod?

my john deere will not turn over. 172 lx... it has plenty of spark but will just turn and turn and not turn over. i did what the video showed and cut that piece off and still nothing.. i have checked and am getting fuel to carburetor. i am lost.. please help

Is there a factory plug to replace the solenoid with?

Hi Lonnie. Thank you for posting this video. I put on a new coil, wouldn't start, put new fuel lines in and wouldn't start. watched your video and took your advice, she started! It is running like the timing is off a little. does the new coil and where I had the magnet aligned make any difference? I have a new carb coming so this just helped me know that it will start! maybe the new carb will fix the rough running? Thanks again Lonnie

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Could have a lil trash in the carb.

Thanks Lonnie, I'll try this when I get home from work. I just paid $95.00 to John Deer for a new Solenoid. Before I take it out of the plastic bagging, I'll do this. If it works you just saved me a bundle. I agree Horsepower garage, it's just more crap to make more money, and they never had them before recently when they learned the vast majority of people are uneducated fools you can sell anything to.

I'm certain my solonoid is good, but I'm not getting it to actuate via turning the key. Either the ignition switch is bad at that connection or it's something beyond my understanding. I may bypass it using this method it it'd be nice to get it function. It's a brand new carb and the tractor quit one day. The solonoid plunger wasn't actuating/retracting with they key. Tested the solonoid and its good. It's a wiring issue

Also, don't need to reconnect power to that thing was snipping it. Thanks!!

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is also true but I just didn't want to cut that wire or leave it hanging

At least it was my problem. I will buy a new one. Thanks but for now i can mow my yard. Lol the ground wire had broke off.

do you typically add a in line shut off after doing a modification like this, even though your needle/seat/float combo keeps fuel or should at the correct level?

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Yes because this is designed to stop the fuel from coming back into the carb once you kill it.

Hi, I know you posted this a long time ago. My b-s arians 17.5 lawn tractor is sputtering and stalling. I changed the gas. When I take the air filter off and put my hand over the hole I can keep the motor running. Will cutting off that solenoid shaft help.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Nope you need to clean that carb really good.

So do you leave the wire that connects to the solenoid off?just wondering because everything has a safety switch on top of a safety switch these days and thought maybe the mower won't start if it's not connected to anything.great video!

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t matter.

I’m going to try this on a Cub Cadet I just acquired a few days ago the solenoid is dead but I can get it to turn over and attempt to run for about 4 seconds

after i delete fuel solenoid ,i install manual fuel shut off valve,when i stop engine i turn fuel off to stop fuel get in carburetor.

Thanks for the information. But I don't see how that stops fuel from getting to the carburetor. I thought the float, and needle and seat control fuel interning into the carburetor and controlling fuel level. I understand that the fuel solenoid stop's fuel getting to the main jet when you turn off your ignition switch. I also see you grinding off the needle plunger if you have a electrical problem or bad fuel solenoid winding. But I thank you for the information.

On my Vanguard, it started failing intermittently when the engine got good and hot. It was very frustrating and took about half the summer to figure out what was happening. I since learned this solenoid is a safety feature that eliminates "afterfire", or fuel being pulled through the engine and igniting in the hot muffler when you shut off the mower. Doing the work-around is fine, but be aware that you could be increasing your fire risk. Be careful shutting a hot engine off inside a building. Be sure you idle down for a bit before shutting down.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

True about the idle down part but for years we had mowers without this part and they worked great. Someone with a pencil thought hey let's add more crap. Probably never has messed with a mower before.

thanks for turning down the radio

Shouldn't have to grind all the way to the threads anyway. Only as far as the pin bottoms out at.

All that is fine,my Craftsman 42" did it ,so I took out the silonoid and replaced it with a short bolt and rubber o ring ,then cut my fuel line and installed a fuel cut off ,if you don't it'll flood the mower

@johnfair62

2 жыл бұрын

Adjust your floats in the float bowl. Your carb should not be flooding. It works just like the float in your toilet bowl that shuts the water off so the tank does not overfill.

Thanks did not know that I have a John Deere. I'll keep that in mind.

Heah I used to keep my shop so clean I could eat off the floor. But I'm getting old and I have bad knees. Your place looks like mine.

I hooked wire back up to mine after doing as you showed, started then died. Fuse blown somewhere. Do I need the wire hook up? Craftsman Pro 900 B&S 24hp engine?

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

You won't need the wire if u cut the tip

After I grind it off, do I even have to plug the electrical connection back in ? Can I just leave it unplugged or will it cause some kind of short if not plugged back up.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

No need to plug it back in

hi, thanks for vid, inherited this mower and of course this was the problem, However the throttle must stay at Full Rabbit speed or it will die....is this a related problem or possibly carb just needs to be adjusted now,,, TIA..!

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe clean the carb and adjust it some

The correct name of the solenoid is Afterfire Solenoid and is called that way for a reason. The reason for the solenoid is to shut off the fuel after you turn off the key. When you turn the key off it will kill the spark but engine is still turning cause of the inertia. That causes mixed fuel still being sucked in the engine and to the muffler where hot muffler ignites the gases causing the loud bang - afterfire. That solenoid is needed to eliminate that effect. Actually I hardly ever have to replace them. Usually bad fuel can be carefully cleaned out with carburetor cleaner and working it up and down. After cleaned out I test the solenoid on battery.

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

I never get the loud pop after I disable it. I always put an inline fuel shut off if I do this tho.

@HorsepowerGarageVideos

8 жыл бұрын

+Lonnie ( PuppetKicker ) I cut the end off mine after it started to fail and it has never popped after I shut it off. Just more useless shit on the carburetor.

@timspur7203

8 жыл бұрын

i hate those things...i do all mine like that...no problems

@stevenoel5491

6 жыл бұрын

If you leave the throttle full and shut it off... bang... even with the stupid solenoid! Just cut mine off and can mow now!!

@healthyamerican

6 жыл бұрын

i wish i had read your post before i jumped at this idea..but iwas anxious to see if this used john deere d100 would start. been sitting for over a year and the solenoid was gummed up. i broke the tip of the solenoid off and it started right up. but now it has an afterfire..i was planning on selling the mower but an afterfire is not going to help...i hope i can get a solenoid cheap for it.

Thank you for this video. Will the mower overheat by disabling the shutoff? Why the heck do they put this part in if it's not needed. In Canada, the John deere part is $250.

@LonniesGarage

24 күн бұрын

No it won’t over heat. It’s there as an anti backfire device. When you turn the key off it stops the fuel immediately.

Good video. Does removing this solenoid tend to all ow the engine to flood after it is turned off?? thanks.

@LonniesGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. That's why I recommend to put an inline shut off valve.

I did and I check plug its at 30 just like old one and I sanded the flywheel too

@gordbaker896

7 жыл бұрын

Sanding the flywheel does nothing. Check gap to coil.

What is happening, when gas and oil mixture is shooting out your carburetor, as you try to start it?

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

Could be a number of things. Check the pcv filter

G'day mate. I had same problem with the fuel solenoid on my Husqcana ride-on mower and was able to get it working perfectly by removing the rubber tip (the part that actually seals and shuts off the fuel) of the solenoid and replacing it again. My question is... can I leave it like this forever? Should I install a seperate manual shutoff valev? Is there any real need to have the fuel off when not using the mower? Maybe I am missing something as engines are not my forte' lol.

@LonniesGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Yes u will need to put a shut off on the fuel line or it will cause the carb to over flow and gasoline goes into the oil

If its stuck in the up position, will it cause problems starting a mower? My mower is hard to start. My solenoid doesnt click or make a sound. I understand it cuts fuel off when turning engine off but im wondering if mine is harder to start because the plunger doesn't retract when the ignition is turned on.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Up is cutting off the fuel.

This works but fuel can fill you cylinder with fuel, good temporary fix but I suggest installing a fuel line shut off. Also idle the engine down and wait a sec or so before shutting it down.

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

That's why I say put an inline shut off

Mine starts and runs fine, but starts to kill after only a few minutes of mowing. If I ride with the hood up and tap the cabr or soleniod with the handle of a screw driver, when it starts to die, it perks up and runs again for a few minutes. Then the whole cycle repeats. Do you think my solenoid is failing, or maybe an electrical fault, or carb float sticking?

@LonniesGarage

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas Russell sounds like u need to clean that carb really good. Also wouldn't hurt to put a coil on it.

honestly i might follow this to disable the solenoid on my craftsman riding mower as it is really messing with the carburetor and making the engine run poorly. i really dont know why these kinds of things are installed as it tends to create more problems than it solves.

will this cause it to cut off during use during use maybe mine will not start without the wires hooked up to the solenoid

@vancedurham5310

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, my craftsman gt 3000 23hp twin cylinder kohler shut down, it was the fuel shut off solenoid went bad while cutting grass. Cut the top off re install and back up and running.

I have a Huskee LT4200 (from Tractor Supply) riding mower with the Powermore Chinese engine. After mowing just a few feet, it dies when the blades are engaged. If I disengage the blades, it will start back up and keep running. Engage the blades again and it dies again after a few feet. This all starts after it warms up for about a minute. I replace plug, gas filter, air filter and blades and still have the problem. I'm wondering if it's the gas solenoid causing the problem and if I can just unhook it and tape the wire ends.

@LonniesGarage

8 жыл бұрын

Unhooking it will not let the fuel through. Will it stay running for a long time without turning the blades on? If it dies after the motor warms up with the blades on or off then it sounds like u have a bad coil

@eyeballll

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I tried disabling the solenoid and it wouldn't start at all. It will stay running with the blades off but dies right after engaging the blades. You're probably right, the coil is about the only thing left it could be. Fortunately I got ahold of the area's authorized repair center for this mower and they said they can take care of it. Will be calling them tomorrow. Thanks.

Do you still have to use choke after cutting the needle off the fuel solenoid?

@LonniesGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

Do you do this if your fuel solenoid fails to avoid replacing it, or just do it before any issues? I've had my Husqvarna 11 year's with no problem's. Thanks

@LonniesGarage

Жыл бұрын

Do it if it fails. But if u have to do this it will need an inline fuel shut off valve