How to Determine Correct Leader Length

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In this video, Brian Flechsig of Mad River Outfitters discusses fly fishing leaders, and how to determine it's length. When your fly fishing leader should be shorter or when it should be longer!
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  • @davidbundesen5867
    @davidbundesen5867 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for FINALLY making it very clear that the leader includes the butt section AND the tippet. I’ve been confused about this for a fair amount of time. This is really helpful.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help.

  • @braddavis6831
    @braddavis68312 жыл бұрын

    Answerd my question I was having. These video series help so much and it's nice to be able to watch again and again to refresh. Really helpful for me as a beginner fly guy. Mad river outfitters is my go to fly shop and I'm more than happy to support them. Thanks Brian and all your crew!!👍

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching and especially for the support! As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we'll keep making videos!!!

  • @KillerPigeon-ct6ss
    @KillerPigeon-ct6ss2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for taking the time to put out such valuable content. I watched all your videos and your my go to channel for advice. Best wishes from 🇬🇧

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching!!!!!

  • @wd4477
    @wd44772 жыл бұрын

    MRO keeping it real, as always. Great job with the videos and the editing guys. Thumbs up!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @1adam1967
    @1adam19672 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding! I have always shortened my leader/tippet build for bass flys only because it felt like it drove my fly to location better. This helps me understand the logic I was unaware of.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Gordon19781
    @Gordon197812 жыл бұрын

    Such a fantastic channel! I’ve learned more from your videos than anywhere else, thank you for all your hard work, and all the best from the far northern highlands of Scotland. I’m only sorry I can’t visit your store to repay you for your efforts here.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.

  • @5555dpq
    @5555dpq2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your expertise. I haven't been fly fishing in many years and your tutorials are a perfect refresher.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @stormcrow7698
    @stormcrow76982 жыл бұрын

    I've watched hours of Mad River. Some of the best and down to earth advice I've found. I really appreciate this guy. I'm 39 and recently got into to fly fishing and this has got me in the door. Although I've been an avid fisherman my entire life. But this is one of my favorite styles.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here.

  • @adamredden2007

    @adamredden2007

    5 ай бұрын

    Exactly the same here. Priceless information. I, too, started around 40, and 4 years later, I'm able to do things I otherwise wouldn't simply by watching these videos. Thanks Brian!

  • @themidnightrider6805
    @themidnightrider68052 жыл бұрын

    This is the best fly fishing channel on KZread, hands down! Thank you for the information you guys put out it seems to be the questions I want to ask that you already answered!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for being here.

  • @rogerclark4150

    @rogerclark4150

    Жыл бұрын

    I love your fly fishing channel great info!

  • @u27762001
    @u277620012 жыл бұрын

    Brian says it the best!!! Thank you for everything you do and say!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here.

  • @grahamstewart7980
    @grahamstewart79802 жыл бұрын

    Great episode! I recently had a friend tell me how he made up his 6’ leaders for redfish. I’m still a neophyte to fly fishing, so I didn’t press him on the short length. I was sidetracked by the kayak he was fishing out of. Redfish out of a kayak is what is known as a Cajun Sleigh-ride here in south Louisiana. Thanks for making it easy for me! Keep up the great work.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here.

  • @schadowolf
    @schadowolf2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant tutorial, many thanks to Brian and crew!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @jacobstarr9010
    @jacobstarr90102 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I was recently using 7 ft leaders on my full sinking lines. This definitely cleared it up for me.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help!

  • @Wolflung
    @Wolflung2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Brian & Mad River team! This Video was very insightful & helpful

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help.

  • @russyates482
    @russyates4822 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys I really appreciate all the tips and advice you all give on KZread and at the shop phone/emails. I have a really quick and hopefully easy to answer question on leaders for bass fishing with my 5wt recon rod. I think you said the big nasty leaders was really good for turning over some of the bigger and more wind resistant flies (up to about a size 6ish). Thank you for all the pointers that you give.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Feel free to call the shop with your questions and they will be happy to help.

  • @jeremycampo5495
    @jeremycampo54952 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brian for the good advice. I've gotten similar advice from my local fly shop ,but not about how the pre- packaged leaders have tippet already on them, so thanks helping me not double tippet my leader. P.S I'm very new to the sport so thanks for all the advice.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Happy to help and always feel free to call the shop with questions.

  • @grantwbrewer
    @grantwbrewer2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these great videos. They are very informative to both the beginner and more advanced fisherman. I would never classify myself as advanced because the more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know. These instructional videos have caused me to re-think many bad habits that I have adopted for unknown reasons over the years.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching.

  • @simonclough9781
    @simonclough9781 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this from the UK. Probably one of the most important videos a new fly fisher needs to watch. Oh, and I've been doing this for 30 years but I will be changing my approach somewhat when I'm next out.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for being here.

  • @stickfiguretree5411
    @stickfiguretree54112 жыл бұрын

    This is so valuable to me. I'm brand new to fly fishing and you are setting me on the right path. Dude you rock.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Happy to help and please stay tuned.

  • @Handyhandleforthetracking
    @Handyhandleforthetracking2 жыл бұрын

    I am great full to have found Madriver. New to the sport myself, and your videos have been great. I’m in NJ and you have quickly become my go to fly shop. PS: I greatly appreciate the speed at which you send out orders. 🤟

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.

  • @willmegehee
    @willmegehee2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. First ever trout fishing was last year and I got hooked. I’m going again this fall and am very excited. I’m learning a lot from your videos. Thank you for sharing and teaching!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here!

  • @sikandershah9619
    @sikandershah96192 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Brian & Mad River Outfitters. Great information.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Much appreciated.

  • @tacticalsti
    @tacticalsti Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been a long time salmon fishermen that didn’t require this level of knowledge around leader. It was pretty straight forward stuff. But I’m going my first real trout fishing in Patagonia in a month and I’ve found these videos so helpful. I will be ready to go and will absolutely be patronizing Mad River A LOT going forward thanks to all their guidance. Excellent channel and thoughtful presentation.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for being here and thanks for the support. We greatly appreciate it.

  • @jamescarl7708
    @jamescarl77082 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy doing business with Mad River and Brian. Needed my last order quick and Brian took care of me. Thanks Brian! Enjoy your videos too. Gives me a good feeling to support a small American company and seeing them do well.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the kind words and the support. We really appreciate that.

  • @nthnjulich
    @nthnjulich2 жыл бұрын

    Thank You, Brian and Mad River Outfitters Crew.. Always great information, wish i found this video years ago when i started out.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @skotrod
    @skotrod2 жыл бұрын

    This is some great info. I have had to learn this the hard way by getting tangling loops while trying to cast a big plug of twine on my practice rig. Shorter leader/tippet makes that air resistant "fly" stay in control a lot better. We are still waiting on that book.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. The book is coming. Stay tuned.

  • @chaslindsey

    @chaslindsey

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madriveroutfitters Yep, I'll echo 'skotrod's' comment, "Waiting on that book..." 🤞

  • @Thebreadedfurflinger
    @Thebreadedfurflinger2 жыл бұрын

    Brian what to say,awesome information & no holds bared call,have been fly fishing a long time (35 + years) & your information & knowledge still teaches this ol dog new tricks,I use mostly 7 1/2 ' leader with an extra 2' of tippet works for me,agree about leaders you can't fish a # 18 dry with the same tippet you'd throw a # 6 streamer,keep it up my friend,tight lines & bent rods

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Much appreciated.

  • @tommyboyd6189
    @tommyboyd61892 жыл бұрын

    Great information and helpful , also really like the honesty of this channel…. Probably the only one that tells you that you don’t always need the top of the range expensive equipment

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @kevinthoms330
    @kevinthoms330 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Answered all the questions I had about lieder length.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @scotthill5738
    @scotthill57382 жыл бұрын

    These videos are honestly some of the most helpful videos out there.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @accordingtopete555
    @accordingtopete5552 жыл бұрын

    This was literally the video thats explained everything for me, amazing info guys once again

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help and thanks for watching.

  • @awnik99
    @awnik99Ай бұрын

    I cant believe how much im learning every day from you guys. I've started for 1 year ago and was ready to give up because of tangled lines, tippets etc. Im now owning 3 rods and going to fish my whole vacation away

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Ай бұрын

    Happy to help and thanks so much for watching. Stay tuned!

  • @Tmfndlb
    @Tmfndlb2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. This helped tremendously. I’m having a problem switching to bigger flies and I think you solved the problem for me

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and always feel free to call the shop with questions.

  • @caryverhalen
    @caryverhalen2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, great content. always enjoy learning from u guys.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help.

  • @dougstroupe2154
    @dougstroupe21542 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Learning a lot just watching the videos and saving the trial and error method.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Detroit3Pistons
    @Detroit3Pistons2 жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal video as always. I often wondered why the Bass leaders I buy are 9’ Long. They would never turn over a heavy Clouser Minnow or Wooly Bugger. Every cast the flys would collapse at about the last 3’ of the leader so I trimmed about 3’ off and it was a night and day difference! As always thank you for the knowledge!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help.

  • @TheFrugalFlyRodder
    @TheFrugalFlyRodder Жыл бұрын

    Brian, I have to say... this is one of the best videos I've seen on leaders and the breakdown of their usage. I think you (sort of) know me; I typically only chase smallies, wipers and bluegill. But to expose me... because of the species I chase, and the size of flies I use (with the exception of bluegill), I learned through experience better than 50 years ago that a shorter leader was much easier to use through casting, again, depending on flies size, the desired presentation and a number of other considerations. One could find a happy medium with an in the middle outfit, but there is no one tippet, one leader, one fly line, one fly rod or one real that fits all. Thank you for confirming what I have thought for a very long time.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @rickhall2000
    @rickhall20007 күн бұрын

    This was so informative. This solves a problem I have been having by answering a question I didn't know to ask.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    7 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help!

  • @dixiemae5042
    @dixiemae50422 жыл бұрын

    The authority on leaders. Can’t wait until the book comes out. 👊🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.

  • @j..w443
    @j..w443 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of U.K. 🇬🇧 fly fishing channels are obsessed with 18-20 feet, non tapered leaders to fish 3-4 flies a cast. I find this a challenge, so really appreciate this particular video.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here and happy to help.

  • @willduckworth4789
    @willduckworth47892 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! That really makes sense.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @foketesz
    @foketesz2 жыл бұрын

    The absence of bs is refreshing. Clear and substantiated info. Congrats and thanks!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching.

  • @stephanzigler9439
    @stephanzigler94399 ай бұрын

    Probably some of the best advice I have ever heard about fly fishing. Keep up the outstanding work 👏 👌 👍

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching. As long as folks keep supporting the shop, we’ll keep making videos.

  • @stephanzigler9439

    @stephanzigler9439

    9 ай бұрын

    Too bad you guys are not covering the Pacific Northwest, I guess that's where I'll chime in hahaha!

  • @hoogieshobbyshop4305
    @hoogieshobbyshop43052 жыл бұрын

    He’s serious about calling in questions. I called about airline carry-on rules for my 4-pc Orvis rods and they were absolutely wonderful. The airline website said no-go for carry-on, but MadRiver said all is well (for domestic flights). And so we flew with 3 fly rod tubes as part of our carry-on luggage with NO problems. The fly rod cases even generated a few good conversations with fellow travelers. So thank YOU MadRiver Outfitters - for always being awesome and making my son and me cast (and sail through the airports) like butter.🤓

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking with us. We answer all e-mails and of course answer all phone calls. "Customer service is what we do. Fly Fishing is what we love and sell."

  • @turninflat
    @turninflat2 жыл бұрын

    I write to simply thank Brain and MRO for quality videos. I met Brian in Gardiner Montana at lunch. He's a wonderful ambassador for our sport. His knowledge and IQ are matched by his EQ, a nice trait to have.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching. Will pass along to him and he will surely appreciate. Stay tuned.

  • @dk78b2a5
    @dk78b2a52 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This helped me out tremendously understanding how to set up now. I’m guilty of double tipping since I had no idea it was already built in.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help. Stay tuned.

  • @sswwooppee
    @sswwooppee2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been struggling throwing anything but the lightest dry flys. This explains what I’m doing wrong. Thanks!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and happy to help.

  • @Cavanpikefishing
    @Cavanpikefishing2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a million for the videos I'm just new to this just got a fly rod and reel and flys on Wednesday so I need to keep listening in to understand more from Ireland🇮🇪😊

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned and stay in touch. Let us know if we can help!

  • @Cavanpikefishing

    @Cavanpikefishing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madriveroutfitters as I say I no noting about the line that on the reel is it OK to use and what else will I put on it to start?

  • @derekosiecki
    @derekosiecki2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info on using a shorter leader on my sink tip fly line! My delivery with a heavy crawdad pattern was an absolute disaster even with a 0x leader! Thanks Brian!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Stay tuned.......

  • @Wildtr0ut
    @Wildtr0ut11 ай бұрын

    I like that. Very good frame of reference.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for being here.

  • @tgwsci
    @tgwsci2 жыл бұрын

    Great educational video. Thanks!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching.

  • @philsherratt3647
    @philsherratt3647 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Brian, for all the advice. I am new to the sport and have learnt a lot in a short space of time, keep up the good content. I like the idea of having a constant butt section of leader all year round, making sense to me. 🇬🇧

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @guidotesi9928
    @guidotesi99282 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation!! Great! ❤️

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @chaslindsey
    @chaslindsey2 жыл бұрын

    Great! Very simple clarification of something I have messed up lots of times! :)

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @user-po7iv4ni3o
    @user-po7iv4ni3oАй бұрын

    I started fishing for real for the first time in my life last year, straight to a fly rod. I love all the info that's out there, but I quickly decided to get a quality spinning rod, to bypass all the technical noise while I took a few months to really learn my local waters first. After 9 months of practice, I got the fly rod back out this week. The basics I learned on my own through observing fish and trying different techniques absolutely helped build me up, to where I'm ready to devour all of the fly fishing content now. And most importantly, I see much more clearly now how down to earth and sensible your approach is. Used to romp around over in your neck of the woods when I went to Ohio State a long time ago. I like CO a lot better now though 😅

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching.

  • @dannystokbroekx336
    @dannystokbroekx336 Жыл бұрын

    very nice explanation !!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @pbp6741
    @pbp67412 жыл бұрын

    Quality content. Well done.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here.

  • @colbybaxter1716
    @colbybaxter17162 жыл бұрын

    I would like to give you a thanks "Mad River Outfitters" im going to walmart today to get me a cortland 8ft 4 piece 5/6 fishing pole and i was about to get it but i herd of leaders so i came to you to learn about this thank you so much im 13 years old and i got bored using bait casters and spinning rods for fishing fixen to go up to smokey bear mountains and try it out im probaly gonna go to my pond with stocked bream and bass and test it out thank you so much for the tips i have been researching for over 3 days now.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and feel free to contact us at the shop if you have any questions.

  • @dvdschaub
    @dvdschaub2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Brian. I appreciate the expert advice! BTW, would like an entomology video.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. The entomology series is coming this Fall. Stay tuned.

  • @tbluemel
    @tbluemel9 ай бұрын

    Brian, You are the leader leader! Thank you!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    9 ай бұрын

    Good one! Thanks for watching.

  • @hotpoker4212
    @hotpoker42122 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from the Emerald Isle,of Ireland,🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪,just getting back into flyfishing, love your videos, great info,and very well explained,👍👍

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.

  • @stevenbauer5906
    @stevenbauer5906 Жыл бұрын

    I am new to fly fishing and find your video super helpful.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching. Happy to help.

  • @EscapingTheCity
    @EscapingTheCity2 жыл бұрын

    Hands down best advice I've ever heard about leaders. When I learned to build my own leaders I started playing with different leader lengths and weights and right away I could notice better casting on my streamers when I went heavier and shorter. And dry flies cast a lot more nicely when you have a good long (but not too long) gradual taper down to the fly. I think tapered leaders a great for first timers, but you should learn to build leaders from the start. Building leaders is a lot easier than people might think. And that will teach you more about the physics behind all of this and how to properly cast than just mindlessly casting and spending your whole day undoing tangled tippets.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. When you build your own leader though, it is still a "tapered" leader. Just to clarify so some don't get confused by that.

  • @EscapingTheCity

    @EscapingTheCity

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madriveroutfitters ah thanks, meant to say pre-made leaders.

  • @robertwilcken8431
    @robertwilcken84312 жыл бұрын

    Good video Brian!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @donlofting4268
    @donlofting42682 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining why. I can now remember it because it's logical 👍

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @OscarOverlanding
    @OscarOverlanding Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!!!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @benspeer1752
    @benspeer1752 Жыл бұрын

    Whoever edits these videos is hilarious and brilliant.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @bridgetspicer1624
    @bridgetspicer1624 Жыл бұрын

    very helpful thanks.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @FryFlier
    @FryFlier2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Brian, leaders and leader formulas are great but only if you know what you are casting. I had a guy that was fishing close to me a few years ago with an articulated musky fly that was about to through his gear in the water. The fly was a or similar to a quarter chicken dinner. the leader was a manufactured 9' tapered down to 5X or 4X. Saw the struggle and just by chance had a spare homemade fluro 80 lb. - 50 lb. 4 1/2 ' leader. The guy was so happy after the change he is now dedicated to musky on the fly and nothing else. Oh and the rod and gear was bought as a 9-10 wgt package from Sail or Cabelas, they did not even sell him a pike, musky, or predator leader.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    As Brian always says….your leader is your second most important piece of gear. Thanks for watching.

  • @lukemorrow5131
    @lukemorrow51312 жыл бұрын

    Your awesome man. I love your channel all the way from newzealand👍

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @elihusmails
    @elihusmails2 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Do you guys have a video on making your own leaders? I’ve heard you talk about it but I’ve never learned the correct way to do it.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks and Yes, we have quite a few scattered throughout the channel. You can also call or e-mail the shop anytime with specific questions.

  • @janusz.panicz
    @janusz.panicz2 жыл бұрын

    100% correct. The most important piece of the entire setup. I would even emphasize that for spey casting (both SH or DH) the leader length and construction is critical.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Critical! Thanks for backing us up here.

  • @janusz.panicz

    @janusz.panicz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madriveroutfitters Appreciate your sharing of knowledge and experience rather than marketing buzz 🙏 One of the best fly fishing channels I've come across.

  • @ScientificAnglers
    @ScientificAnglers2 жыл бұрын

    Great tips!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @southernhood5145
    @southernhood51452 жыл бұрын

    very helpful thanks

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @kirkshammett94
    @kirkshammett94 Жыл бұрын

    Your info is top notch. You should do a video on double nymphing rigs

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @jeffdurocher8669
    @jeffdurocher86692 жыл бұрын

    I dont id still be intrested in fly fishing if it wasnt for MRO. I try to make a pilgrimage ride there once a year from Arkansas. I watch your videos and obviously, learned so much. Thank you

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks back to you. We really appreciate your words.

  • @rogernilson3986
    @rogernilson3986 Жыл бұрын

    No one has ever explained this to me. Agree with what you said about the industry.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here!

  • @thatonebeone
    @thatonebeone Жыл бұрын

    this is what answered my question thanks .. i will email just to make sure i order the right hooks and weight eyes for my needs... thank you.. i will place my orders when i get a email back from you or your staff workers....

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being here and they will be happy to help.

  • @Valscorn01
    @Valscorn012 жыл бұрын

    I like the echo of Brian’s readers

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @garylee1544
    @garylee1544 Жыл бұрын

    Good Stuff!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @averageguyadventures
    @averageguyadventures2 жыл бұрын

    I've picked up a couple of the thread furled leaders that Brian's holding up at 7:00 for my lighter weight rods and have been amazed at the difference from regular knotless leaders. Soak them in liquid floatant, add 12"-18" of tippet, and off you go. And here I was thinking I was getting better at casting. 😪

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @billkreitner9884
    @billkreitner98842 жыл бұрын

    Vince would have loved this particular video.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @walterocamb2803
    @walterocamb28035 ай бұрын

    Great information! Fly fishing can not be taken lightly. I am just getting into it. Tons of variables that needs to be considered. And generally speaking it is not a cheap sport to get into. I suggest to everyone, take your time and do your research. Then apply what you have learned.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.

  • @papilloncycles3463
    @papilloncycles34632 жыл бұрын

    Excellent advice, I am just getting startednd have found that the heavy bass flies I am using are hard to handle with a rod length leader. I have been using 6 lb Mono to make my leaders and found a 6 foot leader I can handle with the big Craw flies.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @michaelmartin9572
    @michaelmartin9572 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. One could add that longer leaders are also required for the euronymphing technique. Best regards.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Not sure Brian knows much about that stuff though.....he's American.

  • @michaelmartin9572

    @michaelmartin9572

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Madriveroutfitters Thank you for your response. I understand that the euronymphing technique (sometimes also called Czech nymphing) is making inroads in the US too because it is highly effective. It's similar the the traditional "pêche au toc" in France, but with a flyrod. I'm sure you will come across it at some stage. I take this opportunity to thank you for your great and honest work in your videos. Best wishes. Michael

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelmartin9572 Thanks. The shop is very versed as they sell the gear. Just don’t think Brian is up to speed.

  • @critStock
    @critStock2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You have such a talent for breaking things down to the fundamentals in clear way! As for industry emphases, look at the price scale: rod (hundreds of dollars) > reel (somewhat fewer hundreds of dollars) > line ($50-100) > leader ( $6-7) > fly ($1-2). I imagine that the decline in profit margin along this descending price progression is even steeper. Looks a lot like the scale of marketing expenditures from greatest to least! It's just business. I really appreciate how you are prioritizing the elements of fly fishing in terms of fishing effectiveness, rather than profitability. I really look forward to hearing your thoughts on furled leaders and how to fish them. Subscribed!!

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for being here and please stay tuned.

  • @dimitar1914
    @dimitar19142 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 7.6ft rod and a reel from two different fishing shops. One of them told me to use the whole 9ft leader, but the second one told me that I could cut off 15 cm. from each end of the leader and then attach it to the fly line. For now I am using the whole 9ft leader.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Give the shop a call or an email if they can help. They know leaders.

  • @jamesmurphy4431
    @jamesmurphy44312 жыл бұрын

    Call Mad River Outfitters. They really do help out.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Customer Service is what we do for a living.

  • @williamnybakken1486
    @williamnybakken14862 жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian, really liking the videos on leaders. In several videos there is mention of a book you are writing on the topic of leaders. Is that still in the works?

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! It is. Stay tuned and he’ll let you know. Thanks.

  • @caseycameron5370
    @caseycameron5370 Жыл бұрын

    Make you're own leader I highly recommend it way cheaper too and I use the slim beauty knot to connect all my sections keeps the leader nice and straight great for the trout I fish for here in Australia 👌

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @1114flibby
    @1114flibby2 жыл бұрын

    great video. I use 9 foot tapered leaders and cut about 15-20 inches off them and then tie on about twice that in tippet (I am casting dries for very spooky fish most of the time). Does not take too many fly changes before you have to tie in a new tippet so I get back into the butt section pretty quick (I also fish about 4 to 6 times a week). I'd like to know how far into the butt section you get before you swap that out with a new one, is there a general rule of thumb on that????

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Please contact the shop directly with your questions and they will be happy to help. Email or call is fine.

  • @LeakyWaders
    @LeakyWaders2 жыл бұрын

    I just wing it usually aim for around rod length and it's never failed me. ...Of course I never catch fish, but the leaders look great in the air.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a good place to hang out....except fo the no fish part.

  • @farmerbob4554
    @farmerbob45542 жыл бұрын

    So if I have a 10’ fly rod what is the difference if I use a 10’ tapered leader or a 7 1/2’ tapered leader with 2 1/2’ of tippet? Good video, lots of great information-thanks.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like he says here......"That's double tippeting". Feel free to call him or e-mail him at the shop though if he can help further.

  • @myfourbits6901
    @myfourbits6901 Жыл бұрын

    Geees!! I am learoso much. Thanks.

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @kristoferradzinsh4397
    @kristoferradzinsh4397 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Question on using two flies. If the recommended leader length is 9 feet and I want to keep 2 feet between both flies, would the flies be at 7 & 9 feet mark or 9 & 11 feet mark?

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly over to the shop via e-mail or give them a call. They will be happy to help.

  • @Charsept
    @Charsept2 жыл бұрын

    I know that if I want my fly to get deeper, I shorten the leader when using sinking/sinktip line. What about a heavy fly on floating line? Shorter leader to effectively cast/deliver it? And if it were a light fly, a longer leader would allow it to get lower?

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @petermiller9115
    @petermiller91152 жыл бұрын

    What's your thoughts on using a 5x 7.5 ft tapered leader then tying on a short 6x tippet. You would easily know when your tippet needs lengthening again. Thanks

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please send your questions over to the shop via phone or e-mail and they will be happy to help/answer you there. Thanks.

  • @Anthony-eg7pw
    @Anthony-eg7pw2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any episodes talking about tippet and leader sizes?

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, many. Start here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6iMsqysqse9adY.html

  • @jakedeviley1171
    @jakedeviley1171 Жыл бұрын

    If you are fishing a 7' 3wt, and throwing a foam hopper with a tungsten beadhead nymph dropper... would you keep the overall length of the leader 7' (to the nymph dropper) or 7' to the foam hopper and then the dropper off of it?

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Please send your questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to help and answer. E-mail them or give them a call. Thanks.

  • @philipschaefer7939
    @philipschaefer79392 жыл бұрын

    It’s almost like you guys know exactly what I need lol

  • @Madriveroutfitters

    @Madriveroutfitters

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

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