How To Connect a Mic Preamp To Your Computer For Beginners (FAQ Series)
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How do you connect that external preamp to your computer? If you just bought a DBX 286s or any other external preamp and you’re not sure how to connect it to your audio interface, this video will explain how to do so. Simply put you need to run line level into your audio interface, and in most cases that will require a balanced 1/4” cable.
00:00 - Intro
00:11 - Equipment You’ll Need
00:54 - Terms You Need To Know?
01:48 - How to Connect Preamp to Interface?
02:27 - What’s a Balanced 1/4” Cable?
02:56 - Why Use Balanced 1/4”?
04:10 - Demonstrations of Incorrect & Correct Connections
07:18 - Outro
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You'd be surprised how hard you have to dig for information like this. Keep doing what you do man!
Making people smarter one video at a time. Good stuff! 👍
@Jdpanzone
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin! I watch your stuff too, it is pretty interesting and some of it has been helpful for the hobby stuff I have been working on. Thanks a ton for your vids!
@BasicFilmmaker
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jdpanzone Thanks!
This is LITERALLY the perfect timing for a video like this! I'm considering buying the DBX286s to connect to the Behringer umc204HD for live streaming and podcasting, and although i knew how to connect them, the extra info helped a lot! Thanks and great video as always!
Having owned and used the 286s for a few years, I still found this episode really helpful and illuminating. I a-“pre” ya, Bandrew!
Oh wow Bandrew. This video came out in perfect timing. I just got my hands on a Scarlett OctoPre for cheap, and now i'm getting a new audio interface for my setup. This was incredibly helpful like always. Thanks!
It is rad that you run a U87 and Portico through a Scarlet. I bet Rupert would LOL.
@Podcastage
3 жыл бұрын
Rupert apparently started Focusrite, so it’s all in the family.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage Oh, that Rupert Guy. When did he ever sleep?
@Podcastage
3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how he has slept but he’s a hero for audio nerds. I love that man.
@nik.6845
3 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage indeed.
@HarleyAMV
3 жыл бұрын
For anyone that doesn't know; that's a $2000 microphone through a $1000 preamp to a $150 sound card.
You've helped me so much over the years thanks for being here and making my life so much easier
I have struggled with the gain staging on this set up for a long time. This has cleared up my issue! : ) Thanks Bandrew!
I have been waiting for this video for a hot minute!! Thank you! You have the best content on YT for recording audio gear. Keep it up! 👌
Love the Neve Portico 5017. Makes my SM7B sound so cleeeeeeean.
@Podcastage
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing well Travis! Great to see ya pop by!
so helpful, thank you, I was about to buy my first preamp with an xlr to xlr cable, you saved me from a big deception
Thank you so much for this video! I got the Portico 5017 as well and feel like I'm not getting the juice that everyone seems to get out of it! The fact that the Portico line output gives you an XLR connection and the Mic output a 1/4” confused me right off the bat, lol...great job, keep it up!
You solved my problem!! Thank you very much!!
Wait...im sad because I didnt hear the "dubbly do for what I diddly did phrase" :(
So valuable information!! If you only have a balanced jack output on your preamp (Black Lion) is it enough to use a TRS balanced cable to connect with the Line In of the Focusrite Interface? .... So what I mean is: Micrphone > IN XRL Preamp > TRS OUT balanced Jack > IN LINE Focusrite Interface
Man! This video help me a lot! I’m usin the ssl 2+ but my analog comp it’s now sounding better. I was doing the xlr-xlr
Best video online I’ve watched to far. Thanks bud.
I NEEDED THIS INFORMATION!!! I've been running xlr to xlr and I have to have it so low that I really didn't understand why I even was using the preamp... I'll be getting the trs to trs in the morning... Thanks Bro!!! One last thing, I was getting so much air that I might as well have been recording beside a fan during a tornado 🤦🏿♂️😂😂😂😂
Gotta love a clear, concise and well organised tutorial video 👍
@Podcastage
10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and for the kind words.
This video was really helpful. Thank you!
This was so, so helpful Thankyou!!
Great video. Wish I would have watch it BEFORE struggling the whole day with this topic.
Awesome info! Thanks Bandrew.
Very useful, thanks!
Thank you for this man
Such an amazing video, thanks
I love the "little bit of saturation" example. Makes me want to slam my limiters and compress it flat.
@Podcastage
3 жыл бұрын
For spoken work, it’s really not the best. For music is where you’re likely going to want some of that. Haha.
thank you amazing tips help me so much
Great information
Excellent video!! thanks for de explication.
Holy shit, this is a good video, a masterpiece. Thank you!
Huh. I just learned that I've been running my signal chain incorrectly for the past 6 years. (sm7b > 512c lunchbox preamp > Scarlett 2i2 all via xlr to xlr). Time to dig into my box of cables and see if I have an xlr to balanced 1/4" lying around. Thanks man!
your amazing. Thank you! i just liked and subscribed.
Thanks for this. For years my chain has been SM7B into DBX 286S, to FocusRite Scarlett Solo, to PC, and I've been connecting the 286S to the FocusRite with a TSR to XLR cable. Why? It seems to work (the 286S has the gain around 2:00, but the output knob and the FocusRite gain each at only about 8:00). My guess was that I liked it because I figured the DBX pre-amp was doing most of the work, and with very little noise compared to what I'd expect if the Solo was cranked higher. But I could never find a good answer to why I should be connecting the 286s to FocusRite with a TSR to TSR cable. Now that you've explained it, I have a better idea how it works, and I'll experiment further. Thx again.
@anotagastiriola5811
3 жыл бұрын
The two options will give you exactly the same result, tell me if you can differentiate 16bit to 44,100 from 16bits to 48,000khz ? well the difference here from this ass face that makes the video is the same, you will never be able to determine a hearing difference. L.A. studios have the microphones connected to the preamp and the interface like you have for many years...
Ben please review any focusrite Clarett interface 🙏
What do ya think about tube mic preamps like from ART, Presonous or Behringer and the "sound," settings they have? I assume the TRS cable is needed for the output from the Mic500 from B.
Thanks...I was using XLR from preamp into my interface..
Best video on this on KZread
Hey @Podcastage , Love your videos! I watch almost all of them even if I am not planning on buying anything that expensive or fancy. Your presentation and attention to detail on the different items you review is awesome to watch, plus it doesn't hurt to know what the best is and what the expectation for good audio is. Question good sir. What VST/plugin/software do you use for the spectrum analyzer when you are analyzing noise from mics or cables, like in your video on "Are Expensive XLR Cables Worth It?" video about cable shielding. Thanks!
@danielgaudet6114
3 жыл бұрын
From the looks of it, @Podcastage is using iZotope Insight, the first version (and not the newer iZotope Insight 2).
@Jdpanzone
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielgaudet6114 Thanks a bunch!
wow I've been searching for a simple but informative video like this!! thank you so much! now if I wanted to add an external compressor do I do the same thing ? and if so will I have to manually arrange which comes first in vocal chain ?
2:00 Why not XLR balanced to XLR Balanced cable? Great video! *oops you explain it thoroughly later in the video sorry.. 😅😍
Im not a beginner I think, but I didn't know that! thanks a lot
What is a good pre-amp for voice work? Thank you 🙂
Thanks Bandrew!!!!
thanks for this video
Ok, that one was for me.. lol thank you sir for all you do.
Good stuff
THANK YOU!!!!!! FINALLY SOMEONE IN KZread WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN THIS SIMPLE THING...SMH
Most audio interfaces don't allow for line-level XLR (one notable exception being Sound Devices Mix-Pre 6), but if it does, I'd personally use that. It's easier on your inputs.
You mentioned adding coloration as a reason to use external preamps. Are there any any other reasons? If I already have a decent to quality audio interface, would I need an external preamp?
Thanks
I connected my (Daking Mic Pre/EQ) to my Presonus Studiolive 32SX line in, and my signal won't hardly show up even when I crank the Pre and the mixer? Not sure why, I"m doing it exactly like this.
I just used a shure xlr attenuator with my presonus tube pre into audiobox usb 96
f I use an at 2035 connected in DBX 286s (with 48v activated) do I have to activate 48v from the audio interface (FOCUSRITE Scarlett 2i2)? thank you!
As a newbie to the voiceover industry, I’ve been looking for someone to make these clarifications for me for MONTHS!! Now if I could just find a reasonably priced audio interface that doesn’t require me to sign away to them the info on EVERYTHING I do from my computer, like Focusrite does with Scarlett.
Thanks. I would have gone XLR out from my preamp to XLR in, on the interface.
Hahah, you are exceptional with your videos thanks for the tips!
@Podcastage
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
I've currently got a daisy chain from my ART PRO MPA II Pre to a dbx 266XL Compressor/Gate into my UMC1820 interface. What would your cable choice be for that scenario?
thx man this solves my problem. btw if my usb mixer has its amplifier do i still need the preamp? And lastly, my mixer does not have a usb out(trs to a 3.5m jack connected to my mic jack of my pc) , is there any device that can make my output quieter?
can you plug in the output from dbx 286s directly to laptop/pc? using using 1/4 jack to 3.5 mm cable
Bandrew, can I use a Podmic with a XLR to USB or 3.5mm with sound card? As it doesn't require 48v Phantom power.
Great video, but there is one thing I might be misunderstanding here. While I agree with everything you said, your comment about the TRS cable reducing radio frequencies/EMI from shielding confused me. TRS in itself doesnt reduce EMI and RFI, nor do all TRS cables include sheilding (obviously a good quality cable does, but that doesnt define TRS). The reason you would use TRS is becuase the signal from the mic and XLR cable is seprated by left and right, instead of one singal and ground, thus making use of TRS instead of TS since TRS also has left and right signals as seperate. Now you might have implied this and I might have simply misunderstood, so I apologize if thats the case. Other than that though, I absolutely agree with everything you said, esspecially with using TRS instead XLR on the USB interface. Anyways thanks for the great video as always! Sorry for being so nitpicky!
Would you consider doing a video on the pros and cons of using a desktop mic stand.
I take it other external gear (compressors, EQ) can go between pre amp and audio interface via balanced patch cables?
finally got my confusion cleared!so that means i can route my external preamp to external compressor to line input of the audio interface preamp(antelope) and gain all the way down..and i will not blow the preamp..
Hi Bandrew! Been watching your vids for a while now. I've recently decided to go for an upgrade from my current bm800, been thinking about rode nt usb mini or the yeti nano since they're both similarly priced in where I live. Though I've already watched both of your reviews, I still can't make up my mind. It will be used mainly for discord and a bit of light recording on the go, what is your take on this? Thanks in advance :)
What if your just using a usb mixer and just going XLR to XLR and just adjusting the gain on the mixer? Do you loose any quality or is it always better to use a pre amp when going into any audio interface? I am currently using a Tascam Model 24 usb mixer and the using it as an audio interface in my DAW then adjusting my doobly do’s in the pre effects panel.
Hello! Can you review the Jbl audio talk and go microphone? I want to buy it but there aren't many reviews on it.
Is there a difference between using the line level input on an interface and using a quarter inch insert on the same interface?
What's the difference between a preamp like shown in the video vs those mic boosters like klarkteknic and cloudlifter?
Hi Bandrew, might you be able to do a video on what levels to aim for when recording for KZread? the old school’s theory is at hot as possible before clipping. And if I do that, my MK4 will pick up a lot of mouth noise... Should I follow you to aim for -18dB (peak/average) and increase volume in post?
Does the focusrite control app not allow you to select Line level for XLR in?
Where is your mic plugged in? Into the Scarlett or the pre amp?
Can you do a review on trust gtx 244 buzz? Thank you
Are you bypassing the preamp of the scarlett with this method? Cheers
Hi, could you give me some advice on the Tascam TM-80, thinking of getting it for singing
question, how to connect mic to Neve 5017 to Distressor to DBX 286s ~ ID44 ? please.
Well this was a eye opener i thought i knew what i was doing LOL ! One thing after seeing 3 of these video's on this, phantom power if turned on by the focusrite could possibly damage the neve pre amp if a XLR was hooked up ! did this many times thank god it was never turned on .
@Podcastage
10 ай бұрын
Glad you were able to adjust the setup to connect it to the line level, and I'm very glad your preamp wasn't hurt! Happy recording Chris.
@christopherdunn317
10 ай бұрын
@@Podcastage Thanks ! but after trying it i found the sound sounded a little thin and different than when hooking up the XLR ? not sure if its the pre amp on the tascam dp24 that kinda helped the volume since it was hooked up that way, but i kinda preferred the XLR even if there is a risk i don't know if you noticed this as well ? thanks again !
Nice explanation again! Is your Sony headphone gone to heaven? You are using your Sennheiser in your latest video’s.
Can you pls do a review on the new mxl revelation ii mic? Should be the best tube mic for the money!
Is it okay to use the hi Z input of the audio interface? I have a motu and it has line inputs and Hi Z inputs. Which one's should be used ideally.
Hello. Did the focusrite 2i2 mic pre bypass when using TRS cable?
So I've got a preamp, a condenser/limiter/gate and an EQ, plus my interface. I'm going XLR through the entire path. Should I go to the TRS from the final rack to the interface, then?
Holding the DBX in one hand was funny!
Hey ! Very interesting video but I'm in a case you didn't talk about (or maybe I'm wrong). I have a babyface 1 from RME. I don't have a line in except for the instrument one, other wise it's just an XLR, what should I do ? Im completely lost 😭 Thank you in advance
So this is very interesting, as I have a similar setup for my daily driver. Heil PR40 -> dbx286s -> Rolls MS111 mic switch -> Scarlett Solo -> MacBook Pro. The Solo doesn't have a combo XLR jack, so I went with a 1/4 balanced TRS to male XLR cable (from dbx286s to Rolls mic switch), 6 inch M to F XLR cable (from Rolls mic switch to Scarlett Solo). Gain is set to 0 on Scarlett. Gain is set to about midpoint between +45db and +60db on the dbx286s (the PR40 is pretty gain hungry as you know) and output gain on the dbx286s is set to around -15db. This setup and configuration gets my peak levels to a decent sweet spot without any clipping, so I've been pretty happy with it. So my question is what do you think of this configuration, and would you have any recommendations on improving on it at all? It works for me, but at the same time, if I just got lucky or could be doing this a better way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks!
@jason01095
3 жыл бұрын
I should probably add that I use this configuration mostly for conference calls for work and voice chatting while gaming; that's why i have the MS111 mic switch as a physical button is way easier to hit quickly than scrambling with a mouse to find where ever the mute button might be in whatever application I'm using at the time. :)
So if I am getting started with remote teaching and have a non-USB mixer, it would be the same deal, right? Use the line settings not mic on the audio interface? If my mixer has both XLR and 1/4 inch output, should I stick with the 1/4 in?
Can you do a review of Muslady 222a audio interface, because your the only one i know who can explain it more understandably .. the other ones that i saw on YTvideos is too vague 😅
I’m thinking about purchasing the SSL Six. I have a BAE 1073 DMP. Would you recommend putting the BAE first? Do people use 2 preamps in series? I haven’t found any info about this on KZread. Thanks.
i just got an scarlett solo 3rd gen, the mic input is an xlr port, it doesnt have quarter inch port for the mic :(
You just wanted to show off your 5017 and your U87 hehe, love it Jokes aside, very informative video
The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd generation has a Line/Instr slider, does that mean you can use the XLR connector for line level input as well?
3 жыл бұрын
If I understood the manual correctly, the Line/Instr switch is purely for the TRS/TS jack, the XLR connector is for microphones.
Isn't there still the preamp coloration of for example the Audient ID14 if you connect it that way?
Can you do a neewer nw-8000 usb ?
Thanks for the video! Question: Shouldn't one run the balanced 1/4 inch out from the DBX to one of the inputs in the BACK of the Focusright? I thought this bypassed the Scarlet's preamp and made for the best setup. I have the 2nd Gen. 18i8 with 4 in the front and 4 in the back.
@Podcastage
3 жыл бұрын
The 2i2 does not have line inputs on the rear. If you have a line input on the rear of the 18i8, yeah you can run directly into the dedicated line input.
Could i damage my pre amp by output the signal directly to the motherboard? Like xlr - 6.3 - 3.5mm thing.
Thanks for your amazing videos! I've got an audio/PC question which I really don't know the answer to after days of Googlefuing and with no KZread videos that I could find demonstrating an optimal set up.. maybe an opportunity to make a video? At any rate, I'm really hoping someone with experience and equipment on hand could help me out.. I just picked up a used Logitech Z906 (5.1 speaker) system and I'd like to pair it with a USB condenser mic (that won't break the bank and) capable of having enough of a tight capture pattern to mostly have the speaker output (from gaming) relegated to background noise. I know that a headset would be better, but unfortunately I recently began suffering from tinnitus and want to stay away from headsets/headphones. I'm planning to mount the speakers in a small room at about head level, 3 feet or so away, at the lowest volume I can manage and still hear all in-game sounds clearly. I was thinking to have a mic either sitting on a desk off axis or mounted on an arm, hanging close above the desk, perhaps about a foot away from my head. I'm aware I want at the very least a cardioid mic, and also looked at super and hypercardioid but really not sure if spending the extra money for an XLR set up is really worth it. Essentially, does anyone have any experience of the best setup for my scenario? Or perhaps the best USB mic to use that would bring me closest to my target? Also, I'm not opposed to an XLR set up, although it's pricier, If there's an obvious benefit when using external speakers. I appreciate you making it this far through this lengthy post and thanks in advance for any help.
Bandrew - I've been thinking about getting the Rodecaster Pro and/or the Motu m4. Would the best result be to run the Rodecaster out and into the Motu? Or just go straight from the Rodecaster into the computer via USB?
@onocoffee
3 жыл бұрын
I should add that my interest is running spoken word for livestreams and/or podcasting.
hello sir, before i hit the 48v botton, do i have to make sure the preamp and the interface are power off ?
I got an ASUS Essence stx II sound card that has trs input for line/mic. I'm assuming I can connect an xlr mic to xlr of portico 5017 and from the trs output of portico to the input of my sound card, without an interface, right?