It's not a proper computer unless it has front panel switches and blinkenlights

@StringerNews1

2 жыл бұрын

Keepen zie mitts auf zee blinkenlights!

@hoofie2002

2 жыл бұрын

@@StringerNews1 😂

That's what we need: practical tips and tricks for the modern IT environment!

"New" is such a relative term!

@sophiacristina

2 жыл бұрын

You stole my new joke!

Thanks for stopping by!

@CuriousMarc

2 жыл бұрын

Anytime. Thanks for the hospitality!

At the old UTRAO radio telescope near Marfa we had a Data General Nova 1600 that booted from a) front panel switches to b) paper tape to c) nine-track tape. Vacuum-tube amplifiers! Peak experience working there.

I used to be the sysop for a pair of HP1000 computers while in college. They were a big deal back in the day when time sharing was the thing. I still have the tapes from the last backup I did in the 1986 right before they were decommissioned. I used to play a drag race game on the system. You could define the HP, tire sizes, gear ratios and such and it would calculate your ET and speed. Great memories.

Thanks for the tutorial!

Oh, thank God you posted this! My brand new HP1000 arrived this morning straight from the factory, and I had no idea how to test it. 😂

Welcome to the new Windows 12 Preview 🤡

Lovely. I could listen to that all day. So relaxing.

I used to manage a pair of real-time Perkin Elmer computers that booted from paper tape.

@jtwhite2084

2 жыл бұрын

Which model(s) of Interdata/Perkin-Elmer computers? At one point, I could key in the autoload sequence on a 7/16 from pure muscle memory...

@crb456

2 жыл бұрын

Well I THINK they were 7/32 machines. It was 40 years ago! Two systems ran real-time telemetry for a water utility as an online/standby pair. The OS had been modified to support this so we could never upgrade the OS. I think I could also key the auto load sequence from memory, if not muscle memory. A PDP 11/40 ran next to the PEs for Drainage telemetry and control. The Perkin Elmers were replaced by VAXes running VMS with no OS patches, also in online/standby mode. Although there was some FORTRAN involved most of my coding for the Perkin Elmers and VAXes was in assembler.

I did that many times 1976-1978. I also disassembled parts of the mag tape operating system and modified it to work with a cartridge tape (no backspace to previous record). I then copied an editor and Algol compiler to a cartridge tape. That, along with a modified video driver and keyboard driver gave me a personal computer in 1977.

Oh the times I remember doing this in the 1980s stood in front of a HP 21MX, reading instructions from a sheet of paper, keying in on the switch panel and reading lots of paper tape. Memories (poor pun)

I'd like to see the long version of this.

This is proper consumer advice and tutorial - we all wondered about our Kitchen computer's tape drive 😁

just in case you havent noticed yourself yet: when watching the short in a browser the title overlays the video, blocking the added text at the bottom. might not be that big of a deal but it makes reading the text more difficult.

@CuriousMarc

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I noticed, but I can’t edit it :-(. Happens only on the phone platform fortunately. Will know for next time.

I had some of those controlling industrial machines. I loved to input the start up sequence. We kept some running until the early 2000s...

Takes me back to the 80's working out load addresses in Octal after reloading the OS from myllar tape on an HP 1000 than ran a 5 axsis machining centre after a power cut.

Quite a modern computer. I started with a 2116B and ASR35 teletype. Later came the much faster paper tape reader. I was surprised to learn Bletchley Park had a 5000 character per second optical reader in 1944.

Thanks, that helps me with the old mainframe that is causally standing in the kitchen - we are used to store recipes on paper tape.

@CuriousMarc

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the proper way to do it!

thank you so much for the video! was gonna have to send a messenger pigeon but this saved me from losing yet another bird!

This model of computer is the reason that HP dominated the chemical analysis mass spectrometry market. They were the only company vertically integrated enough to both be in the chemical analysis instrument field and also have the mini computers able to control them. Their spinoff, Agilent still benefits from this, though their innovation suffers from no longer having the resources of HP and Keysight to assist.

This is amazing, surprised it wasn’t trashed long ago like a lot of these were

@Vlad2319

2 жыл бұрын

Shockingly there's quite a few businesses that take quite some time to get up to speed. Especially in the tech world. After that there's that one guy who loves the machine who begs for it.

I still have a ruler, put out by the old typesetting company Compugraphic, with TTL code for punch tape printed on the back. I could almost sight-read punch tape back in the day.

Wishing for a longer episod on this beast 😍

I wish I'd saved some paper tapes and punched cards, but at the time I was simply glad to be rid of them when they were finally carted away.

@chap666ish

2 жыл бұрын

I have rolls of paper tape and decks of punched cards still. And nothing to read/process them on...

Yes, the old CNC lathes still had a connection for a tape reader. The free bytes were measured in meters 📏 in the display. But there was also a 3.5 floppy with a proprietary format. However, serial and a long-susceptible line to the PC were used. Only a few hundred bauds are enough for the text ASCII CNC programs. Later, floppy disks were used. From the PC with a floppy to a new machine. From there onto a proprietary floppy disk. And then into the old machine. 😁

@jensschroder8214

2 жыл бұрын

Very clever people then replaced the proprietary floppy with a Gotech. You just had to have the firmware for it. The modern machines, on the other hand, were given a USB floppy.

I REQUIRE one of these in my home!!

I was a tech in the RAF in the 70's and 80s, had a similar system, may have been Texas instruments, used an instruction sheet to load the bootstrap and a thermal printer was the display, I used to hate firing it up on a Monday morning.

Back when computers had levers on their fronts

Looks like an opening scene for Jerry Anderson's *UFO*

@edgeeffect

2 жыл бұрын

I blame my 40 year career as a software developer on wanting to work for SHADO.

The machine on top of the tape drive is the 2116B? I believe they are incredibly rare. Only five or ten in existence?

Another day at the IRS

Same here❤

Does this tape sits in a vacuum like the bigger vertical ones , that have been on your amazing channel before ?

@CuriousMarc

2 жыл бұрын

No, but it’s also a start stop tape. This one uses servoed swing arms to buffer the tape motion. You can see Jack threading the tape around them at the beginning.

Yup, this is exactly how I would do it too. Sadly, I don’t have one… just a HP2000F TSB running in SIMH

A friend of mine who had the splendid job of recovering data from rolls of paper tapes said "screw it" and made an arduino reader. In a virtual computer, he could even run it. He's not that savvy when it comes to hardware, so it should be relatively easy to make an even more modern variant.

@Manofcube

2 жыл бұрын

There was a little kit you could buy on eBay. Just a little pcb thing with LEDs and photodiodes. You pull the tape by hand and it prints out via USB serial.

I didn't know computers had a jog button

Want to hear a funny story with a tape drive? No? Ok. Here it goes: A guy I know was in computer engineering in Uni and somehow got his hands on a small HP tape drive. He managed to somehow connect it to his pc and loaded it with mp3's. His gf could not understand why the tape went back and forth while the music played flawlessly.

Amazing😂😂😂

Cool

Runs ok, Halt 77!

@Land-of-reason

Жыл бұрын

102077

HP 2113, the machine I cut my teeth on. On the one I had (2113 +7906 disc, RTE IVB, later RTE-6VM), to boot it was 15,12,9,6,1 in the S-reg, store, preset, IPL, preset, run. Happy days. Tape is a 7970 isn't it?

What's with the paper notes? I used to key in those commands with both hands like I was playing a piano!

Nerdgasm

does it require magenta to print a "richer black," though?

Is that HP t510 on the shelf? And is it used for something?

Was this the one that's a stack machine?

@tickertape1

2 жыл бұрын

If it’s a stock machine no, however I am aware of some people who did a microcode revision to add stack instructions.

Flexing with that PC, huh?

combien de kWh ?

Thats a computer?!?

I really hate this kind of short movies, they are really annoying format wise

How old is this one

@CuriousMarc

2 жыл бұрын

The HP 1000E that Jack operates on the left is from 1976, the HP 2116 on the right above the tape drive is from 1966.

@Walter-_-_White

2 жыл бұрын

@@CuriousMarc interesting and may I ask how did you get this