Paper logs were the good ol days

@redleader7988

4 жыл бұрын

If you dispatch yourself, yes. Company drivers are better off with ELDs to keep the dispatchers in check.

@craig84074

4 жыл бұрын

I was truckin in the early 1980's, we kept two log books, ran all night long, didn't use any drugs, and we had way fewer semi accidents back then than they have now......and we had one hell of a good time, and made very good money back then. The government has taken all the fun and all the money out of trucking now, and I am not really sure how you can keep from getting bored by driving a truck with an automatic transmission. We stayed awake simply because we had to constantly be listening to the engine to know when to shift.

@bojankljajic5408

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. That was the time. Today's ELD make pressure on truck drivers and keep them nervous

@Lets_Build_Together1

4 жыл бұрын

The good ol days. More like it was the good ol days before trucking got regulated and before people got their hands in when they didn’t belong.

@dsotojc4645

4 жыл бұрын

craig84074 you sound like you be shifting at all times. Come on... man. I’ve been driving since the 80’s too and trust me after a while AUTOMATED trucks are the best if you don’t want to be tired at the end of the day.

Really good to see you out and about jack. Have a super weekend and keep cool.

Interesting video Jack, we appreciate your taking us along!

@majiswiiff

3 жыл бұрын

Your the feds

I have been driving a truck for years as company driver and now as owner operator, and can tell you that ELD is NOT good solution. You loose every day at least 5-7 hours at pick ups and deliveries, traffic jams, accidents on the road, brokers reasons, weather conditions etc. so basically you have 5-7 hours for driving. If you are owner operator and feed your family from this job, you will not make nothing working hard every day knowing that you pay everything related to your truck and trailer (maintenance, fuel, company commission, insurances, tolls...etc). ELD put pressure on truck drivers and makes them nervous. If you look country accident rate on yearly base involving big semi trucks before and after ELD, you will notice that rate went up significantly. Truck driver are limited with time and they want to use it to get to final destination neglecting speed limit etc. With paper logs I was much more relaxed and had a time for everything, but not now.

@wiredforstereo

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps it's the system that treats you like shit and values your miles not your time that is to fault?

@slawomirlech950

3 жыл бұрын

@@wiredforstereothe study says ELD kills more people than paper logbooks. There's no need to add anything about it here.

@alexey731

3 жыл бұрын

As a truck driver when ELD becomes I begin use my truck with the max speed limit

@mooneymakes359

2 жыл бұрын

not to include the oppurtunity lose. 20,000 starve to death every day when food may have reached them without ELD.

@polskakurwa67

2 жыл бұрын

Before elog my company paid me .41cpm vs now i get .56 i like elog

Very interesting video to say the least. You are absolutely right about drivers needing to do pre-trip. Chances are you will catch something before it becomes an issue. I used to drive and my wife currently drives long haul for local company. Keep up the good work.

Very good video and thank you for saying it’s all about safety !!! That’s what is really important !!!

Before GPS, paper logs were derisively referred to as "comic books". I usually kept two.

@oilhauler76

4 жыл бұрын

"Funny books"

@brianjames4169

4 жыл бұрын

misterjag And “Swindle Sheets.” 😅🤣

@bobpeg7457

4 жыл бұрын

coloring book

@ronaldrutledge5712

4 жыл бұрын

Don't know how you did it with two. Two always caught up with me. I needed three to keep going without eventually running out of time.

@Lets_Build_Together1

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a professional author or writer I guess you could say. I just drove truck part time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s what I tell people

Someone said there's no need to worry about things you cannot change and no need to worry about things you can...

Loved the angel music once you plugged the ELD back in :-)

Thank you for all that information I was totally and informed preceded I'll look into it deeper thank you for all you do clerte

Jack you old double clutcher you, this video was just a warning to your drivers that you will know if they try to cheat you & your company😊😊

Would only work if you’re a true owner operator and You’re your own safety department

@TruckingMBA

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, that exception information is transmitted to DOT during inspection.

@DavidWDavis-xo4tj

2 жыл бұрын

LOL....Those Goobers (Gooberment) got you by your balls! like a child, those Goobers will get you and punish you for disobeying their orders/rules.....they got all truckers by the balls!

What a great demonstration this was, for those drivers that have wondered about this. I'm not a trucker (although I did consider it in my younger years) but, I wouldn't want to be trucker now, in today's world of 'no privacy'. Thanks for the great videos.

@sean7554

4 жыл бұрын

Good thinking, trucking is not worth it. No privacy, no freedom. And a driver having to resort to gauging their pride based on how much of a professional sheep they can be is just sad.

Nice video, very helpful. I'm interested in options for ELD exempt trucks as far as electronic logging goes..

@andrep8287

4 жыл бұрын

For the time being, the "Drive-Away" industry is still exempted from ELD logging. Or, if having no wheels under your butt when you deliver the freight (the truck) is not your thing, you could always consider the other legal exemption from ELD: find a power-unit with a model year of 2000 or earlier (and, thereafter find a carrier to hire & insure you with such an "old" truck), then you will be legally exempted from running an ELD.

@larry0803

4 жыл бұрын

Or, buy a new glider with a pre emissions engine

The reason you can’t cheat the logs is because the ELD is connected to your truck’s computer system so it knows exactly how many miles were travelled unconnected to the ELD.

@bigred1247

Жыл бұрын

Tryn to splain this to my boss..thinks I'm nuts..okkkkk..if he gets caught oh boy

@danielbrooks8392

Жыл бұрын

@@bigred1247 not to mention going off duty in one location and on duty in another.

I wonder what the safety dept said when they saw me drive 700 miles on a personal convenience move!.....lol

@dexx13mh

4 жыл бұрын

Were you empty? Lol

@kngpin48

4 жыл бұрын

@@dexx13mh Nope I had a full load....lol... I was around 76k

@andrep8287

4 жыл бұрын

it may come as a surprise to you, but in the US - with the most recent changes to the rules - there is no distance limit for your loaded or empty "PUC/Personal-Use Conveyance" move.......EXCEPT, that you must return to the same location where you began the PUC move, before you go back on-duty! So, if you ran 700 miles in PUC-mode, that means 350 miles one-way and another 350 miles back to the start line....more power to you, but you just wasted the equivalent in fuel for nought ;-( On the other hand, I would not recommend to do that kind of distance in PUC-mode while in Canada: here we are limited to 75 km/day (46.8 miles), and you must be either in bob-tail mode or in an empty box-truck.

@kngpin48

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrep8287 It may come to a surprise to YOU but imma Outlaw.... I ran from Utah to California fully loaded and fresh outta hours back to my state. There was no round trip! I did what I did with a full load, signed bill of lading and an I don't give a fuck attitude!....I've wasted nothing but time breaking it down for your slow azz!

@dickburt69

4 жыл бұрын

KNGPIN GANGSTA And when you get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, you’re going to get everything taken from you in a lawsuit and sent to prison.

These are great videos thanks Jack

I watched this for 12 mins just for u to say naw u can’t do it

@ryanclark692

4 жыл бұрын

G M lmao right?!

@fgggfffg7645

4 жыл бұрын

His voice is better than any sleeping pills

@christopherhayles4214

4 жыл бұрын

He’s a Asshole

@frankstocker1921

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert.

Good video. There are multiple drivers that brag about unplugging their ELD when they want to use the truck for personal use, instead of just logging PC.

@happypappy6371

4 жыл бұрын

@Chin Brumback Too many of these new guys that think the rules don't apply to them.

@happypappy6371

4 жыл бұрын

@Chin Brumback There is no federal limit on how far you can use PC for. That is up to each individual company. US Express allows 50 miles. Some companies don't allow PC at all. Then there are O/O that use it to go home after they are empty, which is illegal. On one of Jack's earlier videos, he talked about one of their drivers that used PC to go to a truck stop, when he was told he could not park on the receivers lot over night. That is legal. But DOT wrote him up because he did not go to the nearest truck stop. He went to the next one down the road. There is more to that story, but that is the jist of what some drivers do or don't do.

@happypappy6371

4 жыл бұрын

@Chin Brumback It depends on what you used PC for. If you are sitting at a truck stop and use PC to go to Walmart, the movies, the gym, your girlfriend's, then yes you must return to your starting point of the PC. If you are at a shipper/receiver and run out of hours and they won't let you park there for your 10 hour break or you are parked on an off/on ramp and law enforcement instructs you to move, then you can use PC to move to "the closest safe place to park". That is even if it is going in the wrong direction of your planned trip. Then after your 10 hour break, you proceed from that point of safe parking.

@mooneymakes359

2 жыл бұрын

@@happypappy6371 meanwhile children waiting for the shipment of grain to hit the docks so the boat can bring it to their third world country starve to death cruelly and helplessly all in the name of safety

In my neck of the woods. I live in dalton Chatsworth area. Good ole Dalton trailer been there before with the same outcome you had rejected repairs

Good morning Jack!

Also, when Mr. DOT looks at logs during roadside, he also sees unidentified driving as well. And will note on inspection report accordingly.

@SelfMadeEntourage

Жыл бұрын

Lol you can reject those

You can cheat all you want.....but if you're ever in an accident and someone dies, kiss your life goodbye 👋 🎶

@sword-and-shield

3 жыл бұрын

Usually the case anyway, sure it will be worse when they prove falsification.

@bblaam27

3 жыл бұрын

Your life is gone if it's your fault even if your logs are accurate. Ijs.

@sword-and-shield

3 жыл бұрын

@@bblaam27 It will affect the degree of manslaughter, and the resulting sentence . So prison sentence or not can be the diff. with proven falsification

@OneHonestCritic

3 жыл бұрын

Is it any different if you fudged your logs on paper? If done right, it’ll just look like you got into an accident running legally.

@sword-and-shield

3 жыл бұрын

@@OneHonestCritic Don't know if you were asking me, but paper, electronic, either one matters, if they PROVE falsification, the charges and sentence is worse. With a death the legal team will pull out all stops to prove falsification, scales, tolls, traffic cams etc...better line up with the paper fudggin...and it does not have to be falsification on THAT specific day either. I know a driver that got prison sentence for exactly this, so I am not just bs you.

I found out on keep trucking if you go under no vehicle you can drive as long as you want and the GPS wont be active but you gotta come back to the same spot or close enough to go back under your vehicle number and itll show like you never left that spot

I know this is an older video but i had to notice that your in my town where i live in this video. Thanks for the info here i just started using keep trucking and honestly i liked the quacomms alot better but who knows if i can get this part down pat i mat end up liking the keep trucking better... Thanks for the video

Interesting..Thank you for the video..Have a Blessed Day..

I spent 13 years running big trucks back and forth across this great nation of ours. The vast majority of that time was pulling reefers. After two major crashes, I finally got tired of being forced to run too farm too fast, and in too short a time. It is virtually impossible to keep track of three or four log books when you are physically and mentally exhausted. I ran e-logs for a short time after my retirement, as a fill in driver. There are some disadvantages, such as running out of hours 50 miles from home. But It was so great being able to run legally. When I reached point B, I was rested, and not so jangled that I couldn't even remember my name. (30 hours without sleep will do that to you, and I don't take pills) As an employed, paid by the mile driver, e-logs are just alright with me.

Ah the good old days of paper logs.....! Good video Jack, there's just no way around it.......YET!

@MetalMusicManiac

4 жыл бұрын

Mhmm open road tolling I'm sure somewhere partially keeps an eye on hours since it's run by the state

@eagle1333

4 жыл бұрын

@@MetalMusicManiac true, can't take a leak without someone watchin'...

@Houndini

4 жыл бұрын

Few years back. Police had shoot out with guys pulled robbery killed Husband & Wife many states away. I think local news media screw up. This a little small country area very low Pop..150+ miles any big town, They had already License Plate reader camera's on 4-lane they reported Police was waiting on them and knew they was keep coming there way. You watched more than you think.

My wife works on the tech business. She did something on my sonar system logs and now i can drive while i'm off duty or sleeping i can do changes while I'm driving. 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍

@rbtwll9224

4 жыл бұрын

not good the feds get paid to fuck the driver even if he runs legally

@ibimboto8875

3 жыл бұрын

Im interested

Wish it would go back to paper the only time people can really give their family half of what they want!

This is good to watch for the people who actually believe they can get away with shit like this... and then they're in shock when DOT shuts them down for falsifying logs.

@Boomhauer333

4 жыл бұрын

On another note though: To me the e-log restrictions are absolutely criminal in nature. Whoever came up with all of those income reducing/time wasting laws and regulations should receive life in prison without parole.

@NHZ_x4

8 ай бұрын

You sound like your actually in favor of the redcoats? I mean DOT officers ? You can lick their boots all your want son they own you once you plug in that ELD I’m a grown man I decide when I’m tired and how long I need to sleep I don’t need the government to do that for me it’s illegal it violates the 4th amendment

The ELD use the abs tone rings to turn on your reading, disconnect the abs sensor and see if the ELD can read your speed.

@dwalk2191

2 жыл бұрын

Say word

Hey thanks for your video on how to cheat on your logbook Indiana that was very productive man

A driver unplugging their logs is not worth it. Cuz what if something happens, the driver would be screwed. Also I was delivering this morning and there was a driver going like 2 mph. So he wouldn't trip his logs. Just saying that's embarrassing. I hate seeing that, cuz I feel sorry for them. I drove past him obviously, cuz paper. And he was an owner operator, with a pretty nice Classic. Ah man what's going on in trucking!?! Also my brother started driving a truck recently. I tried to talk him out of it, but it didn't work. But luckily he's got his head on straight. He will be going to something more local. As of currently. I'm giving him pointers and advice when he calls. Especially with those elogs. Cuz he does run outta time on occasion, unforeseen events and what not. Planning only gets ya so far. His enthusiasm is mind boggling. Obviously a driver has to be numb to a lot of things to make trucking work these days.

@gtrob8711

4 жыл бұрын

I do the same at 4mph but 5pmh trip the log

@globalsacrifice5248

2 жыл бұрын

Probably ran out of DEF LOL

@randgrithr7387

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be so bad if the drive line kicked in at 15 instead of 5.

you can use personal conveyance to move around a truck stop and to drive to a truck stop. You can be fully loaded and use personal conveyance. If you get to a city on friday and dont unload until monday, you can drive around on personal conveyance from store to store or wherever.

@andrep8287

4 жыл бұрын

...correct, as long as you return to the exact location where you began your PUC period. Also, don't forget to still conduct a DVI (Daily Vehicle Inspection), because the one you did while still "on-the-clock" expires after 24-hours.

Jack; Do you have any blooper reels you could string together for a video?

I did that a few times but when i got my audit. the dot found it, the eld registers it as a disconnect. they will find it because they download your data file and run it through their system. he gave me slap on the hand and said too many of them will put you out of service lol.

Jack, were you in the military? I dont remember ever hearing that.

Good video, And remember a truck driver always has enough hours to get himself home but never enough hours to do something for dispatch that he doesn't want to do. Cheating on log books.

@MarioIMMakeMoneyOnline

2 жыл бұрын

What does this mean

@awesomesauce9613

2 жыл бұрын

You’re an idiot… makes no sense at all you reject

I was a Sergeant in the Sheriff's Dept. for many years. You could work around the clock, no physicals or drug tests(except initial),no speed limits,no state certification every year,no governors and make life and death decisions in any state of mind/body. Now that I drive TT for an hour between cities, they give me all kinds of bs red tape,random drug tests, physicals,etc... Someone let the politicians walk all over truckers.

@franticfactory

4 жыл бұрын

Seems pretty messed up to me! The trucking industry is so overregulated.

@wiredforstereo

4 жыл бұрын

As an ex cop, you don't any tickets though, right?

@Mamastayc240

Жыл бұрын

It’s unbelievable

@MarioIMMakeMoneyOnline

Жыл бұрын

It's the insurance company lobbying

@jackfrost4919

10 ай бұрын

True 100%

Nice meeting you at your office! You know your stuff. Real wholesome guy!!! Very patient! Teach well. I told you I would be subscribing. Great advice 👍 and hope to make you pro in the near future while running with Traveloko. Thanks again!

I don’t mind running the ELD’s but the only thing that sucks is if for instance bad weather like a snow storm is coming your way and you are on your break at a truck stop obviously you would like to leave and get away from the snowstorm before it comes , Instead of just sitting at the truck stop on your break like a bump on a log . I would run according to my sleep clock and according to the weather but these days you can’t do that unfortunately.

Great video !

Attention drivers :-- very important message to all of you who’s run illegal gps or keep trucking or what ever e-log . If you get into a crash and some one get killed and went to court , they will look 👀 up All your phone calls and messages All your logs for the last 6 months All your driving recorded They will try to get your tolls recite and compare them to your log They will try to get a copy of all your bOL and compare them They will try anything , they will try to find recite in your trash and looked them to your e-logs They will look up your work history and all the ticket you diss missed and not showing on your record When a fatal accident happened you might charge with murder , you might go to jail for long time . A lot of new drivers can’t understand it , until they been in court and start hearing those facts then regardless what you say ( your life will be between the judge 👨‍⚖️ hands). If you in fatality accident , first you will be tested in the same min , if it com positive you are fucked Big time . A lot of companies will try so hard to through you under the buss , you ain’t worth millions for them . Run legally or quit this job , people wanna always blame truckers since all of them knows insurance will pay millions for those crashes .

@cryptoanalysts5793

4 жыл бұрын

webmillions I have a friend been in a crash , the lady T bone him , here car had NO break still , she get killed in that crash when things went to court , here lawyer try to get the driver debit and credit statements 🤣 I was in some of his court hearing before they charge the COMPANY 150 000$ even though it was the women fault , but the company lawyer was saying it is better to settle things Man that was some BS But trust me , in court they always in the 4Wheeler side unless you prove them the car was 100% on fault That’s why buying a camera 📸 will help you a lot in the court

@cryptoanalysts5793

4 жыл бұрын

baretta369 yeah maybe your 1999 century insurance pay that 1 million :) But when it’s a big company and there is driver fuck around :) it’s Not 1 million Walmart pay Tracy Morgan 300 million if not more :) You wanna drive illegal do it , at the end you are the one who is responsible for what you do .

@wiredforstereo

4 жыл бұрын

Strict laws exist because some people won't do the right thing without them. We wouldn't have such strict laws if fools weren't out driving for 96 hours on meth.

@slawomirlech950

3 жыл бұрын

Research has shown that ELD kills more people than elog books, so your opinion does not match up with reality.

@cryptoanalysts5793

3 жыл бұрын

Slawomir Lech your Midwest running wild , gone son ... you will be on ELD regardless what you say ....go do research your self I don’t need it ... I been driving for 15 years with out being killed so am sure you’re wrong 🤣🤣🤣

If you got caught doing this what would you say to a 0 tolerance fine?

The ELD is actually easier to cheat then the AOELD was. But we don't want to share how because then it would come to an end. The bigger issue is say you park at 4 am on a on ramp into a full rest area knowing a lot of drivers will leave around 5 am and open up some free spots so you can do your 10. well not no more now your stuck on the ramp to get a ticket because if you move 5 to 10 feet they go on the drive line and create a violation of hours of service. you cant even do a yard move without losing your time. Same in a truck stop lot your stuck in the way you cant shower comeback and park. That's all this system does. it strand drivers so they can write more tickets.. so yes we have to find ways to do our job and avoid them tickets. There is a whole slew of other issues this change has brought up by pencil pushers..

@bill7778

4 жыл бұрын

So your the one that used to park in the fuel island while showering.

@radmin2000

4 жыл бұрын

Wayne Roark If you driving slower then 5mph ELD will not trigger driving time

@doody1983

3 жыл бұрын

Use Personal conveyance - it's literally the exact reason for that special status.

LMBO! You are funny! It shows the ELD disconnected.

What about the difference in the mileage

You still have to account for the mileage.

@wayneroark119

4 жыл бұрын

He did 200MPH from point A to B and will get a speeding ticket under todays auditing system for it. That will result in loss of CDL as well.

@leonardohitchcock6797

4 жыл бұрын

Throw it out the window while your driving and say she's gone

@chadjansen7378

4 жыл бұрын

Leonardo Hitchcock that dude was hilarious 😂😂😂

Liked the church music jack when you were trying to cheat .lol

Some companies may have a safe guard in place if someone unplug it may set off a something in the company office

I'm on keep trucking. Thank you

How will you match your odometer (36 miles driven) with your e logs?

Companies nowadays must schedule driver's loads to be picked up, driven to the consignee while allowing for all the mandatory stops according to the law, and still arrive at the receiver ON TIME. When I drove OTR in the 70's and 80's, if you didn't break all the driving laws, every load you pulled would have been delivered LATE - and for that, a driver would be fired if it happened more than once.

How many traffic cameras did you pass? Im guessing at least one

You will get caught every time which ensures more DOT Inspector jobs, you're just screwing yourself every which way.

Some truckers seem to forget that there not the only ones on the rd. They have rules that are not pointed at one individual but them all. Yes not everyone's sleep patterns are the same but out of all reality is it worth screwing around with ur logs. My family all drive on major hwy and would like to know that all truckers are well rested and following the rules so that there safe as well as everyone else that's driving on are roads.

That was all right Indiana Jack. That was a great public service announcement.

What if you always change the location and then you put it back when you do your pickups and you're ready to go

Hello Jack! Great video. Have a question. Say your on the road, have an abscessed tooth, find a dentist to pull it but its an hour away and your out of hrs to drive should you leave your truck in traffic n call Uber. Or continue, and could the driver be penalized?? We're just talkin here! Lol Glad to see you back!🤙🤙

@indianajack

4 жыл бұрын

I guess you would have to get to a truck stop and then Uber to a dentist.

@ksolo1960

4 жыл бұрын

@@indianajack guess? My question is, are their provisions for medical emergencies??

@happypappy6371

4 жыл бұрын

That is a case where you can use PC. Personal use allows you to go to the mall, movies, Walmart, doctor, etc. Then return where you started from.

@mooneymakes359

2 жыл бұрын

@@happypappy6371 does personal carry allow you to load grain on the docks so kids dont starve to death in foreign countries or run fuel to a hospital generator so patients dont die because a transformer overloaded? No....hmm...so people die from it....hmmm....how many....hmmm....probably many more than die from truck related accidents

Are all eld’s a little box on the dash?

What would happen if you unplugged the speedometer too?

Thanks for another interesting vid, Jack! Keep them coming!

What about the differences in mileage? Logs vs truck odometer????

hey jack any updates on old red?

I am wondering if DOT officers ask you email or fax your elog. Which one he will get ?

On the keep trucking app every time you disconnect it from the truck it registers that in. Dot can see it when they did an audit on mine they found every single time I disconnected

@User37717

3 жыл бұрын

What ended up happening ole trucka

@truckerdave8815

3 жыл бұрын

@@User37717 luckily he was lenient he grilled me for about an hour then told me all the tickets in the stuff that he can do to my company and said next time it better not be this way ....I chuckled he chuckled and he gave me a weird look and I said yes sir it will not happen again....

Different models can be tricked. If it is hardwired into system they put a tiny fuse hidden in fuse area that ties the system in. If you remove that extra fuse it is still powered up but no longer reads truck is moving. You can drive all day and it leaves you at off duty. Follow the wires but only works on hardwired systems

Paper logs,or ELD my husband still made the same miles everyday.. he started at the same time, and ended at the same time everyday. He started at 5am at some truck stop pick up a load a run for 5.5hrs take a break, then run 5.5 more and be done for the day at 645pm

@bojankljajic5408

4 жыл бұрын

Your husband is local driver. Other guys work much harder than your husband (doing Over The Road) and do not have time for waist. That is why ELD is not good solution.

@rebekahbrundage3509

4 жыл бұрын

He drives OTR for a company out of grand rapids, He was driving for a company that hauled freight out of buffalo to Idaho every week.

@bojankljajic5408

4 жыл бұрын

@@rebekahbrundage3509 that is mean that he is company driver and that makes difference. He doesn't care about wasting time waiting for brokers to get a load etc. I am owner operator OTR and things are much different than with your husband.

The DOT inspections side of the app will indicate there had been a disconnect. They will also see a discrepancy in miles and odometer readings. Or is short You've hidden nothing and will get caught. One interesting point of interest, however. After checking out my speedometer censer (at back of transmission) I forgot to plug back in and started driving. I had only driven about 3 miles before noticing that not only was my speedometer not working but my that my ELD also had not kicked me into "on duty driving." Got under the truck and plugged the censor back in and all went back to working as usual. I didn't ever go back to experiment cheating in such a way, but found it interesting none the less.

As much as you guys have trouble with getting repairs, you guys should start up your own repair shop. I have a neighbor that does cheat the system. Took me awhile to figure it out, but he hotshots, and uses 2 trucks, one with an ELD and his home truck. He logs off ~8pm, picks up his next load at midnight with his home truck, then swaps the trailer at 6am, and rolls out with a full 10 hours in the sleeper. But that's not going to work for OTR.

Indiana Jack the GPS won't let you start a a different location. RIGHT? I noticed you had to go back to the food lion.

No matter what ELD you have or your company uses no matter how you unhook it you will always show miles without hours. So you will have to show or have proof of where the miles came from

Electronic logging is infallible. I was one of the first safety managers to use electronic logs in 1990-1991. Rockwell’s Tripmaster, Xata, Cadec had to build fail safes to catch any cheating by drivers. I went to work for Rockwell in 1996 traveling and training. I was asked by companies like Sysco & Shell to verify a driver’s claim or support and explain the electronic log. It’s been so long now that I only worked with the 60 - 70 hours of service.. Don’t mess with it. You’ll never know when DOT wants to audit your files. (The company’s files)

@2500grit

2 жыл бұрын

Everything is fallible you just have to figure it out, like the voting debacle in 2020.

Am glad I watched the entire video to the end before I commented- This, and the "warning" is good to know! I personally prefer e-logs over paper logs bcz when I was a new driver, the 2 mega- carriers I drove for (2006-2009) that still used paper logs were constantly encouraging us to cheat; Code was "Work it out on your logs"- When we began using e-logs they could not do this anymore!

@certified_boogeyman

2 жыл бұрын

I used to think like you until I got my own truck Now the clock is my enemy The shippers, receivers and brokers waste so much time

I have been looking at getting back in to trucking. I stopped in 1998. I used to run dual log books. Is there a way to do that with the electronic system or is that now impossible? At least, back then, it was impossible to make money without running multiple logbooks. These were the kind that yyou used pencil to fill out. You older guys know what Im talking about. Any help would be super appreciated! Thanks.

@laceydevillier3922

3 ай бұрын

2000 or newer has to have the bs eld

Hey, you still gone have to take a 10 in 14 hrs due to you started your pretrip when you did . If you wouldn't have took your or logged your pretrip . If your getting paid for it you have to log it unless your trying to get to a safe place to park with PC !

Cool vid!

Good video!

I had to verbally laugh out loud when you said the safety officer wasn't too smart, It was the way and context that you said it in, but I know it's not the truth..... What is cool about your job, you still get a little Semi driving in once in awhile in all the different trucks, so you are not stuck behind a desk all the time. Is always nice seeing you Jack... Take care until your next video......

If you go into dot inspection mode it’s going to show your miles don’t match when you stop starting driving

Good knowledge

Can't they compare the mileage from your eld to your truck??

Keep Trucking logs use a 5 pin adapter and directly link to the ECM... the odometer will roll over plus the ECM hour meter... these are easily accessible as information to bust you cheating...

Is Indiana Jack still with travel Loco

DOT Officers taking notes 📝🧐🤣

You still in Calhoun I would like to come see y'all

Ok so what if you get to California and it shows your at the food lion 10 min ago and now you 1500 miles away in 10min?

Really liked this video. There are people out there that actually think they can fool a computer.

@jackf498

2 жыл бұрын

hackers can.....i heard they can tap into the unit and simulate everything a real trucks ECM records. and just like the old pen and paper log book can be falsified to report anything you want.

Why did you lament at the end? This video you made, was excellent! Very informative! Are you a 'less government' thinker? Your Government wants less exhausted 'Professional' drivers being SAFE OTR. You must know about the horrific tragedies out there on drivers for a number of reasons pushing too hard or cheating the system. Let's be safe out there, first! Move forward!

@mooneymakes359

2 жыл бұрын

20,000 people die every day of starvation. Kinda dwarfs truck accidents. Their is always something you lose when you mitigate risk. So risk management is the key. In my opinion if that trucker wants to hall that load an extra couple hours so he can drop off some grain at a dock that will help those starrving then its all worth it.....but some people only see the tradgedy they want to see.

"Criminal Mode" Ha!

What about unplugging the road speed sensor?

@thomasshirley5046

4 жыл бұрын

That wouldn't work neither because my truck was towed before and it still triggered my elog. They must use gps idk? Try it though just 4 the hell of it it may work?

Do you have your own authority?

Jack, what would have happened if the cops had stopped you with the log disconnected? That might have been a bit embarrassing. Jack, "well officer I'm making a video about why you can't cheat the system". Police officer "tell that to the judge".

I’m going to be a truck driving what your advice to me?

@indianajack

4 жыл бұрын

It is still a great choice for a career but changing rapidly. HURRY! :-)

Good video jack also the good lord is looking over you also.thanks jack. Sam

So how would you explain the jump in miles?

@wiredforstereo

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't watch the whole video, DID YA?

I can see why people get frustrated with logs but on the other hand if you cant make a living doing 14 hour days, you really need a different job. Paying drivers by the hour would solve a lot of the problems.

@reuventhehotboy

4 жыл бұрын

Paying by the hour would need to be 70×$25= 1750 gross a week if you work 5 days 14 hours a day ....OTR or 20$ an hour locally at least 60 hrs

Never had to use an eld but I hear alot of remarks about the driver can't really control their schedule say in the event of hours of bumper to bumper traffic like you can a paper log. (Hard to believe the driver can't choose to stop somewhere and take the rest time during an event like that) but it Seems like it would really help keep track of things like the milage per state for IFTA. Weather someone likes the ELD or not, trucks are being overly regulated again. What do y'all think of this new mandatory CDL "college course" they are putting into affect come February 7th?

@hollywoodsaint57

2 жыл бұрын

you can do 2 things in bumper to bumper traffic... if your going under 5mph you can switch to on or off duty which saves your drive time...Ive done this for an hour and it reset my break clock... or you can go into split log mode if you take 2 hours consecutively off....but then at the end of your shift you will have go into sleeper berth for 8 hours minimum.... split logs make everything so much easier you can waste 8 hours at a delivery or pick up on off duty unloading or loading in the notes......then get all that time back when you begin to drive. keep truckin even has a split log clock that keeps track of your hours

@joka2200

Жыл бұрын

I guess only drivers view these pages. 😒😒😒🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

For those of you that have SXM on Road Dog News every month they have 2 retired Highway Patrol Officers the program is Ask the Law very informative. Best thing they say to do be honest and notate if needed. Last week they had 2 episodes they are still available on on Demand. Love your Videos Jack!