underrated channel

super cool video idea and amazing editing, I learn so much more with the step by step carry as well as the high elo tips you give that aren't just talon specific such as not greeding for waves or plates when we dont know where Viego is or backing immediately to keep up tempo. Loved the video Yvan I'm excited for the next video you and your editor cook up

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the feedback ! We’ll to do even better for the next video !

im glad i came across ur channel, all the talon youtubers i see either dont speak english or its just them posting montages n stuff xD i love the editing of ur videos u can really see there was a lot of effort in it and the things u say/teach is very useful xD. keep it up bro! i alr watched all 4 of ur vids so n i cant wait for the rest. do you happen to have a twitch so we can watch u live?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

I have a twitch in the description, I’ll be streaming again next week !

These vids are insane bro, keep up the good work man

Exactly what I needed, good video, good edit, good tips, cheers mate !

I really like to see more talon guides from you im really enjoying the ghost phase rush Combo

i was trying to search for a new phase rush build for talon since lurkz's duskblade got remaked thanks ytb to recommend this video! nice video, nice edit!!

first time in your channel, rlly good editing and it seems easy to learn from these types of videos ty =)

Very nice video man ! keep up the good work !

Goated video, clean editing, interesting build 🔔

realy cool, keep on videos like this

I really like the video and the information on your thoughts and priorities that you give in specific situations. Very helpful and enjoying to watch. Keep it up! Are you gonna make more of this format?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Yes I’ll be posting another guide next week !

Your talon is so clean!

insanely good video

great vid deserves a sub

thanks for this vid

cool video man! Can you do a build talking about itemization on him?

Nice, thx

Wp king really nice carry, in some matches it really becomes hopeless as at 10 or 12 minutes my botland is 0/6 and bot tower is gone so cant really contest drakes and teamfighting becomes hard as we always lose 5v5 what would be possible to do in said situation. Anyways wp and goated channel keep up the good work

@a2g555

11 ай бұрын

I also saw that u didnt build defensive this game (no deathdance nor maw) was that because u needed pure damage in fights (bec ur team is very behind) or because enemy team didnt do enough damage

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

if your team loses really hard early game, the best thing you can do is wait for mistakes, if t1 turret falls, ennemy carries can push your t2, you can look to catch them here for shutdown bounties, I built very offensive items because my team was too behind, I need dmg to get the shutdowns

@a2g555

11 ай бұрын

@@yvan1234 alright thx for the insight, my goat fr fr🙏

Hello bro from argentina. I'm verte happy in meet Your channel with this build with phase rush i up from P2 to Diamon 3. It's really solid anda very good to do splitpush. I have only one question when i need to go electrocute or conqueror with this build? Or always can u use phase rush? Thanks

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

You can run conqueror every game this patch, electrocute is rly good vs full squishy and I still run phase rush vs anivia / ahri

When should you take Death dance or Maw instead of mortal reminder, or do you just sell boots for either after full build?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Death dance and maw are really good when you have a decent lead on the game, you can jump in 1v5 and create plays. I usually don’t sell boots as ms is really important on talon

hey question, so is the build always rav > cleaver > sit then duskblade? kinda late for mythic no ? or did you just need the antiheal asap this game.

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

You can run different variations depending on the game, I’m running rav > cleaver > shojin atm. I generally only buy mythics if I feel like the passive is mandatory (dusk if lots of cc / eclipse if it reaches very late game) you don’t need mythics that much on talon

i swear to god i win game since i started hydra into black cleaver, thx to you

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

Glad to help !

Thoughts on the new shojin boss? That thing makes you omega beefy. You think it’s worth building?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking of trying it 2nd or 3rd, I’ll test it on stream next week

Hi Yvan, I like ur editting skill alot, every enjoiable to watch, but I think ur thumbnail could Improve much more !!!

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot, I'll try to put even better thumbnails for the next videos !

Is spear of shojin a viable option for talon mid?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Yes I’ve been playing it on stream it’s broken

I've tried your build and ghost tp in emerald 4 plat 1 and i have to say it feels hard to snowball compared to lethality but maybe i need to take less fights alone and focus on teamfight with your build

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

I recommend focusing a lot on farming side waves and jungle camps ! You should see a big improvement in your performance

@valentinhopechaoz8684

11 ай бұрын

@@yvan1234 i will try that, thank you

@sonydo8377

10 ай бұрын

As OTP Talon I can suggets you to avoid 1v1 until you get like 4-5-6 items with this build. It sucks in matter of damage, maybe works on squishy champs but that's it. He is right to snowball on side lanes and farming jungle. I use to do this by playing Talon as jungler with smite and ghost putting pressure on side lanes and rotate for baron/drakes and sometimes ganking, all mater to look for opportunities.

@valentinhopechaoz8684

10 ай бұрын

@@sonydo8377 Since i don't have a lot of training with this build I'm back with the full lethal one until I find time to play it in draft or flex because I don't want to miss free wins atm, but even with 800K + on Talon I'm so glad new play style like this one can be an option

3:10 cant we shove in this situation? u have tp for tempo or is it risky cuz top is missing

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Very goid point, the reason I choose to base here instead of take plates is because if I push, I will be forced to tp to lane and the plate isn’t guaranted since I have low ad (early game) I prefer to reset and save tp to cover a potential dive or to tp back to lane after a rotate. Also since we got to shove wave the wave state will be back to neutral

@anbov9

10 ай бұрын

@@yvan1234 not the plates, just the next wave. And after u can base and run back with no tp and more items potentially

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

@@anbov9 you can stay for the next wave, I think it’s a good choice as well, gold is more optimized !

u r unique lol

Broo, this is my same strat to leave pisslow elo. 0 ganks from jg, 0 rotation of the sup, enemy jg and sup camping, perma farming under tower. So you pick Talon TP first item Hydra, shove with 1 w, steal camps or roam and this is how you get fed. If works on high elo, then its perfect.

Why going black cleaver if they got no tanks tho?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

I’m biased towards black cleaver, I love the utility it gives and it synergises with hydra, with W R you apply it to everyone very easily in tf

This style of vid is really cool but I'd prefer your actual voice saying what's over the typed out notes/music

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

I will try to add my voice for the next videos

gameplay tres orignal sur talon , wp

Can we get more? 🥰

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

You will ❤️

I dont know how you guys can play him with pr, its so weird for me and i feel i dont have dmg...

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Phase rush is a scaling rune,you trade off damage early mid game for mobility. You can also run conq with this playstyle

Nice vid, but hopeless ?

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

Yep score was close despite me going 18/2

@bigmanmagehater

11 ай бұрын

@@yvan1234 yeah but your comp is strong even behind (fiddle, pyke, riven, fed talon teamfights) i would not think it's an absolute loss, but good job you played very very well

@yvan1234

11 ай бұрын

@@bigmanmagehater yes hoppefully our comp was fine ! thanks man I really appreciate it

U never finish tiamat on talon unless u have every other component, talon just doesnt need it compared to how much value he gets from other ad components

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

Both works it’s up to personnal preference

@Prexxo

10 ай бұрын

its not preference though, Tiamat is for wave clear, talon doesnt wave clear with AA, he Ws then A Q A the minions / 2 Ws, he needs more AD for that, Tiamat just forces u to utilize the shit passive aka walk to wave to get poked@@yvan1234

just wanna be honest, at no point does the gmae look hopeless. I thought you were talking about a 15 vs 3 type game.

But its not hopeless! Hopeless - when ur bot 0-10 and enemy Darius comes 5-1 at 10th minute.

lol hopeless game guy, you had all teammates playing. what can you expect more? in low bronze, you are lucky when you have all teammates doing something. not having 1 afk, 1 only flaming in base, 1 going to invade alone and feeding 0/10

what's ur main ban?

@yvan1234

10 ай бұрын

I perma ban lb/ kindred in soloq

@Samuerre

10 ай бұрын

ok ty, also your guide is fire @@yvan1234

@Samuerre

10 ай бұрын

also what's ur build if no healers in enemy comp? and u use only phaserush runes? @@yvan1234