How to capacity test an 18650 cell out of a laptop battery pack

How to capacity test a 18650 cell out of a laptop battery pack does! After many requests, i've tried to put this little tutorial as sweet and simple as possible showing how I remove cells from the laptop battery packs to tested cells. It should be noted that I did not include Internal Resistance testing as I don't do it. My tests with my equipment result in wildly different results that can't be trusted.
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  • @BrunoPOWEEER
    @BrunoPOWEEER6 жыл бұрын

    Yeaaaaahhh... this is EXACTLY what people want to see... Peter the master of the DIY POWERWALLS going through the laptop batteries showing his techniques haha... AWESOME dude... so much POWEEEEEERRR!!!! =]

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not my idea... blame the sparkie :) Have a few more along these lines... be their own playlist. Time go give tubes what they asked for

  • @timh2870

    @timh2870

    6 жыл бұрын

    working on a pile of zta's in front of samsung 28's and 30's. i think you have more capacity in the shot than my whole powerwall!

  • @brannenthompson9662

    @brannenthompson9662

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Electricbike, fall off bikes much? LMAO at that one, so if your riding of bikes is much to go by god help us with what type of powerwall you'd build. Love what you do as it's always 110%.

  • @aaaricmondroofing1703

    @aaaricmondroofing1703

    5 жыл бұрын

    HBPowerwall where can I go to get or purchase some?

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre4 жыл бұрын

    Finally somebody who knows how to make a good instructional video without wasting any view time. Good job!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank-You

  • @nikonissinen6772
    @nikonissinen67726 жыл бұрын

    I learned more from this video than other 10+ videos made by others I watched about these battery cells! Good work!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    My job is done! THanks for tuning in

  • @8wardy

    @8wardy

    6 жыл бұрын

    same here, subscribed

  • @Majestiicc12
    @Majestiicc124 жыл бұрын

    I just recently learned of the infinite possibilities of this wonderful little battery. In my voracious hunt for videos on the topic of those far more versed in it than I, I came across your channel. I now have your notifications turned on! Like everyone else already said, your technique for explaining everything is second to none. I even was previously going to do that "CID reset", thing. Until I came across your warning. Ha! I watched that video twice to make sure I understood and didn't even attempt the process after that. Thank you!! You are now my Number One Source on all things "18650"! Thanks so much!!

  • @petercoosen7713
    @petercoosen77135 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone that explains it thoroughly. Thanks, now I can continue my little projects.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Happy I helped

  • @jbadillo4127
    @jbadillo41275 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone that explains it thoroughly.thanks u are the best

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank bud

  • @IntelliAli
    @IntelliAli Жыл бұрын

    That REALLY helps!! Thank you. You answered all of my questions in a single 6 minute video. Thank you!!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @ryanwalton5129
    @ryanwalton51295 жыл бұрын

    love the video , explained in enough detial for anyone to understand

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment Ryan :)

  • @d_sidepaintball
    @d_sidepaintball2 жыл бұрын

    Vey informative! Thank your for the time you spent making this for all us dummies!🙏

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm the ultimate dummy, glad you took something away from my tinkering

  • @atilla1990tzu
    @atilla1990tzu6 жыл бұрын

    I like when a lot of information is transmitted in a short time! No talking, only experiences and facts!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    i'm not always like this lol

  • @atilla1990tzu

    @atilla1990tzu

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hello! Maybe you answer so fast again. :) I want to buy a 18650 charger. It should load the cell alone -> unload and measure the capacity -> load. I waver between the VC4 and the Opus BT C3100. Can the VC4 itself measure the capacity? Unfortunately, I could not find an answer to the question. :)

  • @BatteryHasher

    @BatteryHasher

    6 жыл бұрын

    OPUS is my pick, sorry logged in from other channel name. But I love my opus units you can get a good price on ebay here - rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.XOPUS%2Bbt.TRS0%26_nkw%3Dopus%2Bbt-c3100%26_sacat%3D0&campid=5338073988&toolid=20008 or on amazon here www.amazon.com/shop/hbpowerwall

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Replyed from BatteryHasher account sorry

  • @CanadairCL44
    @CanadairCL443 жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you for this video, I have been thinking of building a powerwall for some time now and didn't know where to start. You have packed loads of info into this presentation and I now have a much better idea of how to go about my project. You have a new subscriber!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @pkf4124
    @pkf41244 жыл бұрын

    thanks for a simple straight to the point video.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in

  • @michaelsinclair8726
    @michaelsinclair87266 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're back to doing a straight up vid' again! The live streams are too long and not exactly on the subject for me to watch. I love to see some quick update videos - how you're getting on, performance, future plans, problems etc. :) keep up the good work man!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Live feeds are a way of interacting.. it's boring as all get out editing for 10 hours straight lol I need some love too!

  • @michaelsinclair8726

    @michaelsinclair8726

    6 жыл бұрын

    HBPowerwall totally understand, it's not a dig, just my own preference to what i like to watch sort of thing. Either way, love what you're doing, keep up the good work!

  • @jasonphilipp4664

    @jasonphilipp4664

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for grinding through hours of editing, and I realize it must suck. However I am extremely grateful for your willingness to share your knowledge, and for sacrificing your time to help noobs like myself try to catch up. My ADD prevents me from being able to sit, read, and... whoa, sweet! I just found a quarter in my couch cushion!

  • @2049bits
    @2049bits5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your excellent condensing of the great info! Best in Class for IPM: info per minute!!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    TY sir!

  • @ehsoule
    @ehsoule6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video mate, learned a few things and just in time for my DIY 3kwh solar generator!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome - my work is done :)

  • @pornzi
    @pornzi3 жыл бұрын

    This video is about to help me out. Thanks man

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in

  • @ChiTuSai
    @ChiTuSai2 жыл бұрын

    Very useful video, thanks! I also have a Opus BT-C3100 and i'm in the process of making a small battery pack for a xenon flashlight i'm making; I want to use some 2200mAh LG cells, I got a lot of them from a local shop that repairs battery packs for power tools and now, after months, it's time to select them. Basically I have to charge them, then run the discharhge process and see how many mAh the battery can give in order to match ones that are close.

  • @ianbuilder
    @ianbuilder5 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting method of testing capacity but in my experience i like to test them by putting them in the microwave. The ones with the largest explosions and most poisonous gas are the ones with the highest capacity. The extra high-quality ones have fumes that make me cry blood.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you could make some very watchable youtube videos - have at it, I'd sub that!

  • @ianbuilder

    @ianbuilder

    5 жыл бұрын

    i do post vids

  • @JoshuaCorley
    @JoshuaCorley6 жыл бұрын

    great video mate keep up the good work

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank-You Joshua

  • @usmanzaheer4691
    @usmanzaheer46912 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing information

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure

  • @tldnr8666
    @tldnr86665 жыл бұрын

    "I put them in packs because it's safer" Also sets a running metal power supply on top of them. Love your videos though! I always learn a lot. :3

  • @TheMrjogas

    @TheMrjogas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes i spot that aswell,but is no chance they get shorted from psu anyways Even if you want.

  • @rocketrose2165
    @rocketrose21656 жыл бұрын

    Hey Pete, I love the database. Of course I'd have made it sortable on manufacturer, colors and most importantly, capacity. But that's just how I am. I wished I'd had this video when I first started with the hand slicing and coveting any cell over 1500mAh. Great job my friend.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Rocket Rose it does click arrows :)

  • @jwrhynejr.6689
    @jwrhynejr.66896 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the education!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ooh i educated? Ment to just show my process lol

  • @JuanCarlosTapia
    @JuanCarlosTapia5 жыл бұрын

    awesome explanation, you just saved me tons and tons of hours. That is why I suscribed to your channel, you da man....

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've wasted them so you don' t have to :)

  • @sebastianmiceli
    @sebastianmiceli6 жыл бұрын

    In my experiencie, i find that the ones that are with low voltage, are actualy very nice cells. Go testing, you will get surprise how good they are!

  • @iker_1384

    @iker_1384

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i think that also. Most low voltage cells are because of faulty bms. A big percentage of my 2Ah cells are lower than 2v

  • @VahidBehravanVahid-Behravan

    @VahidBehravanVahid-Behravan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I save my laptop batteries and I have two of them with 2.55V and some even lower. You mean they are still usable?

  • @heskey333

    @heskey333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well if you mix them in a pack with high voltage ones that can damage them or even be a fire hazard, right?

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @jasonyannuccelli2499
    @jasonyannuccelli24995 жыл бұрын

    That’s an awesome little video. Thanks. I’m a Brissy Newby and like watching your videos 👍

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome - welcome to the channel sorry it took a few days to reply

  • @MSTECHCHANNEL
    @MSTECHCHANNEL4 жыл бұрын

    It is very interesting to checkout your new videos

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in

  • @damienbovingdon1335
    @damienbovingdon13352 жыл бұрын

    thats for the website, saved me big time

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    2 жыл бұрын

    no worries

  • @4liceD_
    @4liceD_5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video, I was looking for exactly those cells because I don't have the needed testing equipment. Unfortunately it seems like they're too low for my needs, so I will just recycle them.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in

  • @MrConspark
    @MrConspark3 жыл бұрын

    Great tips and advice, next toy for me Opus BT-C3100 tester. Cheers

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have fun!

  • @Kek5kopF
    @Kek5kopF5 жыл бұрын

    Kinda interesting with how much passion you get to this topic. Some things you do are a bit dodgy and dangerous propably. And old batteries are still just old batteries... But this makes sense for DIY powerwalls for sure

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    We all do things that are dodgy, i just admit to them :) I like most learn from my mistakes and it's been kind to me so far

  • @donalddesrosiers761
    @donalddesrosiers7613 жыл бұрын

    Best ive used for cells seems to be crack them like pecan with channel locks.

  • @rondog9603
    @rondog96035 жыл бұрын

    nice job thanks

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks Ron

  • @haythamabdalsattar2947
    @haythamabdalsattar29476 жыл бұрын

    Nice one . long time we miss Since you setup the complicated expensive BMS I always feel stranger

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i should spread my video subject matter out a little more.

  • @danielmace406
    @danielmace4065 жыл бұрын

    HOLY SHIT I just spent an hour getting two cuts and a blister trying to use pliers. I'm getting my gloves out and twisting that shit from now on!!

  • @Ulbre
    @Ulbre6 ай бұрын

    Ripper video...thx mate.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 ай бұрын

    No problem 👍

  • @mobilesigngeek1693
    @mobilesigngeek16935 жыл бұрын

    That was great

  • @pounsfos
    @pounsfos3 жыл бұрын

    fantastic video and still the best one out there. why dont you bother wioth cells under a certain voltage, is it a time thing?, i've had plenty of good cells come back from under 2volts and have worked fine.

  • @JA-kx6kf
    @JA-kx6kf6 жыл бұрын

    What's the brand and capacity of those purple batts? I have a similarly colored ones and i cant seem to find them from your site. Thanks!

  • @DaddyEric222
    @DaddyEric2226 жыл бұрын

    Those ICR batteries are super useful and people will pay good money for them even though they are low capacity cells. The output from them is great! Let me know if you're selling any of those in bulk. I have 1000s of laptop batteries but most only give off 5-6amps max... (Not making a powerwall but lots of small projects)

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I sold 1000s of them and keep all others for him that i find.

  • @shiukaze5489
    @shiukaze54896 жыл бұрын

    i like your wall sir

  • @marcopolo2159
    @marcopolo21594 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful video 👍 👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👌👌👌. thanks

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank-You Sir

  • @Nettle314
    @Nettle3143 жыл бұрын

    Any recommendation on further readings on how this process works? I don't understand how the capacity is mapped out. And essentially what it is really -- AmpH ??

  • @chrisiieeg
    @chrisiieeg3 жыл бұрын

    Hey mate. Where in Brissie do you get these unwanted laptop battery packs from?

  • @brannenthompson9662
    @brannenthompson96626 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for all the questions but I'm just starting out and have just got my first delivery of loads of laptop batteries, 1 should all battery charge to 4.2v? 2 Should groups of cell ah's be approx all the same if not what kind of difference would you allow, for instance just for the question a 10s 4p if the first 10 are all 2000mha what would happen if the next 10 are 1800mha and the next 2100mha each cell? 3 I have come across some cells that are below 1.5v but have charged up just fine will these cells be affected in any way some have been less than a volt, I know I should leave them a while but it's all exiting at the moment. I do blame you and a few others video's for the mess and batteries charging when the better half complains as your one of the reasons I got interested in the first place, but honestly, thanks love the video's for the entertainment and knowledge you've given me plus it's actually changed my lifestyle.

  • @793Junaid
    @793Junaid5 жыл бұрын

    I have dell inspiron 15 3521 and my battery (became dead) is assembled in a same fashion as you have shown in the video. Is the batteries shown in the video are connected in parallel? I want to check their volts so my question is do I need to dismantle the cells to check volts? or how can I? Thanks.

  • @carrickmchwain2296
    @carrickmchwain22964 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I have an old HP laptop battery sitting on my shelf for 3 years. I just recently tested it. 1 parallel set was dead at 0V, but the other 2 set both have 3.9-4V. Does that mean they're ok? How is it still having 4V after sitting on the shelf for 3 years? And they were used 4 years prior, so total of 7 years old.

  • @davidflanagan1152
    @davidflanagan11525 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel but think those sanyo zta you scrapped may have been good as charging voltage is 4.35 and not 4.2 hence low storage

  • @lorenzo14gamingTV
    @lorenzo14gamingTV Жыл бұрын

    Sir whats the safest voltage of 18650 battery should i use in my small setup power wall power wall?

  • @xxplosiv88
    @xxplosiv886 жыл бұрын

    May be a really dumb question, but do we need to buy an IMAX and an Opus charger? Does one do a different job to the other or can they both be used for charging, then discharging and determining capacity? Would preferably like to only buy one if possible!

  • @UBsLab
    @UBsLab4 жыл бұрын

    "QUICK IS GOOD"

  • @dabocket445
    @dabocket445 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for telling me about nickel strips after i cut myself on them. jokes aside where would you typically get a bunch of laptob battry packs?

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading2 жыл бұрын

    heya good exp;aning well done

  • @danesen
    @danesen6 жыл бұрын

    Is discharging at 1A recommended for all cells? If a cells only rated for 500mAh discharge is that cell just not worth using? I discharged a cell at 1A and it got hot enough to trip the Opus to stop discharge, so I removed it from the charger thinking it was bad. Later I discovered on DIY Powerwall that its only rated for 500mAh max discharge. Is it actually a "good" cell assuming overheat was due to discharging beyond its rated maximum. Thanks!

  • @dukenerd6320
    @dukenerd63205 жыл бұрын

    Since there's a lot people in the comments regarding self-discharging testing I thought I'd leave a comment to help people understand. First off all batteries self-discharge no matter the chemistry, age, recharge cycles and the temperature they are stored at. Lithium-ion batteries discharge more in the first 24 hours than they should do over a 2 month period. Most manufactures publish their discharge rates within the datasheet for that particular battery, but generally its considered that Lithium-ion will self-discharge more in the 24 hours than it will over 2 months, to put this into usable understanding. the first 24 hours should lose no more than 1-5% then each month is between 1-2% which if we take the higher value of 5% in the first 24 hours takes 4.20v down to 3.99v which some of you may consider low, but for some applications it would be still usable since the cut-off is 2.75-2.80 for most batteries. In bigger projects with batteries running in series then you should try and match batteries in both self-discharge and capacity as much as possible but don't go overboard, its not that important if using a BMS. The main reason why some batteries fail to charge above a certain voltage such as 4.16v/4.18v is because the charger that you are using is not that accurate, OPUS for example is notorious for being very poorly calibrated which is noted within their manual having a Voltage Deviation of

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dam man thanks for the effort - titbits in there I didn't know/understand... thanks for the effort!!!

  • @tomjohnson236

    @tomjohnson236

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Do you check capacity on 18650 cells in addition to your voltage reads 10 days later? Is so, what do you do with 4.2 v cells that after repeated charge/discharge do not show any capacity in mh?

  • @Mr31Vince

    @Mr31Vince

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your method. I first check the voltage of each cell as I break it out of the laptop pack, then I give each cell a serial number rather than mark it with its capacity etc. I record each serial number in a spreadsheet so I can record initial volts, max volts after first charge, then volts again after 24 hrs, then measure and record internal resistance and cell manufacurer & colour etc. Then recharge to full 4.1v and immediately discharge at 500ma to 3v and record capacity before recharge again to storage voltage of 3.6v. Then I have a bige spreadsheet full of data to make my decisions with.

  • @panteleon1
    @panteleon16 жыл бұрын

    the discharger is a nice tester

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I like them they seem to work well considering the work load they are put under.

  • @strangerares
    @strangerares3 жыл бұрын

    Hello there, I have just watched your video and I don't have much knowledge about these batteries, I have got 6 of them and I would like to use them for a project, I extracted them from a laptop battery just like you did, multimeter shows they range between 1.75 to 1.90 volts , are they too low? can I charge them? or they are rubbish?

  • @hellhole7422
    @hellhole74225 жыл бұрын

    I see you do the charge test at 1000mA, I done some cells yesterday both the same brand on my Opus, One got very hot to touch and the other one was room temp. The hot one is rat s%#t?? or should I do the test at 200mA so they don't get as hot?

  • @harishbshareeshabs843
    @harishbshareeshabs8434 жыл бұрын

    Information good

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @jorgealeman1922
    @jorgealeman19223 жыл бұрын

    lately i been wanting to learn how do do this and been wanting to build something. im JUST starting. helped clean a hoarders house which had 2 kobalt 80V lawn mower batteries which never saw use and degraded just sitting in that rate hole. of the 40 cells i got 20 in good "physical" condition. before i even bother testing charger discharging ( and buying all the relevant equipment) i need to start stocking up to make it worth my time. any suggestions for where i can acquire sources? this weekend im going to ask around at local Lowes/Home depots and see if they are willing to allow me to give some of these battery packs a second life.

  • @kyle18714
    @kyle187144 жыл бұрын

    Yep I get all that... what I was wondering?...was that can I build my 4s 20p groups with batteries that range in the 50mah's?...like 2300-2350, then 2350-2400, then 2400- 2049, etc. b/c in another video you have them sorted by capacity...like the 1100's, 1200's, 1300's, & so on...until you have reached the 3400's group...

  • @cs-xd9gy
    @cs-xd9gy2 жыл бұрын

    So all of the energy used to charge and capacity test the cells is wasted? Or can it do a regenerative discharge so you can use it to test your next batteries? My lipo charger does this.

  • @ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER
    @ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER6 жыл бұрын

    thanks, the cell database will come in handy.... but when i checked the batteries i am currently testing, they were not on the list, they are INE 180650E10 with Orange wrap, and a White disc. ps, i bought a Opus charger specifically because you mentioned it in another video. its sooo much faster than the IMAX B6 i was using before it, and still use.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    if you could add photos & description here www.diypowerwalls.com/t-DIY-Powerwalls-Cell-Database the community can check it out for you hopefully come up with something faster than you doing it your self ? Good news on the OPUS, really like them - they do die after being hammered every day for 12 months but you have to expect that lol

  • @ThingsWhichArentWork
    @ThingsWhichArentWork6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that... I'm already doing my cells exactly the same way as you're doing yours, so good to know I'm not doing anything wrong. Do you find that Sanyo Red cells almost always get hot during charging? I always seem to end up throwing out the Sayno red ones. Cheers!!

  • @rohanwilschefski2549

    @rohanwilschefski2549

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jim Conner yes there is a higher amount of red Sanyo's that get discarded but you can still get plenty of good ones.

  • @neutronpcxt372

    @neutronpcxt372

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sanyos from 2013-2016 are pure crap. They even had a recall, since they emit heat above 3.95V, and get quite hot if you charge them above 500mA.

  • @ThingsWhichArentWork

    @ThingsWhichArentWork

    6 жыл бұрын

    Those are exactly the ones I'm talking about... They're very strange because if you let them cool down again once they get hot, they then charge all the way up to 4.2 without getting hot again.. and they still give good capacities. I pulled apart 7 laptop packs a few months back, and rejected the cells from six of them because of the heat... I wasn't sure if they were unsafe, or if I could use them for some low current projects so I just put them back in the battery recycling box at work (where the packs came from in the first place). Cheers!!

  • @rohanwilschefski2549

    @rohanwilschefski2549

    6 жыл бұрын

    You will find using Sanyo's that do get a bit warm would be fine in a Powerwall application because every cell has such a little draw from it. You also need to define what warm and hot is. Everything under say 70c you most likely won't have a drama with but over that I would discard.

  • @ThingsWhichArentWork

    @ThingsWhichArentWork

    6 жыл бұрын

    In my case, the cells were sitting at around 60 C and the Opus charger had backed off the current down to around 100mA, probably due to the high temps... They were taking forever to charge, which is why I noticed how hot they'd got. Cheers!!

  • @brannenthompson9662
    @brannenthompson96626 жыл бұрын

    Yeah gloves my hands have 5 plasters covering them I just started with my first load of laptop batteries, I found some Prismatic Samsung cells They are marked Line 1 77155A611, Line 2 ICP103450s, and Line 3 SAMSUNG SDI, well I've actually over 60 so what advice give for these type of cells I'm sure you and others have come across them but I can't find much info on them, Love the video's and have gained so much knowledge from you and you're video's.

  • @SmarkDepper
    @SmarkDepper6 жыл бұрын

    Quick is good.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ooh too right ! lol

  • @kyle18714
    @kyle187144 жыл бұрын

    Yes hi how are you?...I went & checked a cell that I was curious about?...I entered its serial number?...& they have a cell close to mine?...but the cell that I have isn't in their database...any tips/advice?...

  • @samueldonahue853
    @samueldonahue8536 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video, fast paced and packed with info. I just charged, tested, and recharged 16 Panasonic NCR18650s using a Zanflare C4. They all show relatively good capacity (they were only discharged at 500mA though, so I don’t know how useful the measured capacity is). The charger said 4.2 at the end, but my meter shows 4.11-4.13 across the board. Would you consider that voltage reading at full charge to indicate a bad cell or should I just use that measured voltage as my baseline when I measure again in a month?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nop ignore the voltages - every cheap device is calibrated with a coke can half full with water - just test every cell the same way with the same sort of equipment.

  • @samueldonahue853

    @samueldonahue853

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Just tested all the cells one month later and they have only dropped .01-.02v. I’m calling that a success.

  • @isairamossoto9948
    @isairamossoto99482 жыл бұрын

    Can i take a pair of batteries of the same Specs forming one cell, and mix in series with other pairs of different brand and slightly different Specs?

  • @meowdacat
    @meowdacat5 жыл бұрын

    I used to buy bulk laptops every single battery the was under grade or obsellite I easy get $2 aud for the batterys from people doing the same type things. My question is it worth it to test and resell them?

  • @felinetech9215
    @felinetech92154 жыл бұрын

    Quick question : i have a salvaged 3s2p battery pack and the voltages at the series junctions are 2.4v, 6v, 7.5 v . Are the cells good enough that i should consider buying a bms for them ? The BMS : www.amazon.in/dp/B072MLMRRY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_ezTnEbR0VBX2D

  • @crazyidias9047
    @crazyidias90475 жыл бұрын

    Old cell I have use

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank-You

  • @peterhancox5268
    @peterhancox52686 жыл бұрын

    Pete, have you given any thought to 'Super Capacitors' for solar storage?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep, don't need them lol and never used them, to be honest. I guess they would be good for smaller systems but voltage sag on my bank is half a volt or something i think.. with a 80a load

  • @aussielass5621
    @aussielass56213 жыл бұрын

    what is the actual volt per cell? Plus what could the batteries be used for around the home?

  • @DonBrandt
    @DonBrandt5 жыл бұрын

    Is 1 Amp per cell a good discharge rate for a test? Can you let us know the differences. We would get a higher mah rating with a lower discharge rate. Thx in advance

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    1amp is good balance - will get the cell hot if there is an issue with it, but fast enough to be efficient to test.

  • @Mazlem
    @Mazlem6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Pete, have you seen / done anything about where the Opus charger overheats and stops discharging for a bit until it cools?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I haven't had this issue yet, i run a fan pushing air kinda over the dischargers but not directly on them..

  • @ahaveland
    @ahaveland6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explainer Pete, and exactly the process I use too with pre- and post charging before and after measuring - life is too short! Just a note, cells will always fall below 4.2V after charging and even new cells will naturally self-discharge. Perhaps you meant 4.12V as a threshold after standing idle for a few days?

  • @KitKatFresse

    @KitKatFresse

    6 жыл бұрын

    That got me a bit confused as well... There is no way a cell doesn't loose at least 10mV over the course of a couple of weeks... I charge mine to 4,21V, then let them sit for 48hrs, if they are below 4,18V by then, they get thrown out, testing is also done after that 48hr period, since testing directly after gave me higher values in some cases and lower ones in others??? Wasn't able to measure any significant self discharge on the packs build out of these cells, one of my unused 52ah (1s24p) packs for my UPS dropped from 4,15V (my max. charge voltage) to 4,13V in one month, which I would considder good...

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    usually, I leave it for a few weeks so if it drops under 4.1 v I recycle - perhaps I could have done that better.

  • @KitKatFresse

    @KitKatFresse

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Cruz, I actually set my charging process up in a way, that i tortures the batterys to some extent, that way they will get hot really quickly if something is wrong... Degradation of the cells should be really low from one "extreme" cycle, after that they'll run between 4,15V and 3,2V anyways :) Letting them sit for more than 48hrs just isn't practical for me, since i would probbably get them messed up or i'd need tons of boxes with dates on them... For now i have 3 boxes, one with freshly charged ones, one wit ones that are a day old and one that are 2 days old, where i take them from to test capacity :) If the ones to test are empty i just use that box for the freshly charged ones and put it at the beginning of the queue, that way ther's allways roughly 48hrs between charging and discharging.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    that isn't a bad way to do it either i think.. I started testing at 2amps finds good from bad much faster, however, was concerned about actually hurting cells..lol go figure

  • @kneegrow3971
    @kneegrow39716 жыл бұрын

    Can I use yellow/red cable with any of the black?

  • @offset7796
    @offset77965 жыл бұрын

    hi there, I'm wondering where you get all the old laptop packs? trying to find a place to find lots of old cells. appreciate your help.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    If your in the US you could try bit.ly/2Oe9PLW (guys are great to deal with and fast postage) or secondlifestorage.com/misc.php?action=addir&id=43 or if your in Europe secondlifestorage.com/misc.php?action=addir&id=62

  • @bpbleach
    @bpbleach6 жыл бұрын

    Hi I began opening notebook batteries to take his 18650 cells and start charging the good cells with a B6 Mini (A original one, with PC port) but when the charger finish the charge with '4,2v' i measure it with the charger's meter or/and a multimeter and the voltage drop to an "4.1x" Can be this considered a good battery to folllow the next steps or it must be just charged on 4.2v to go on? And for the "week self discharge test" how much difference is a good discharge value to pass the test?? My idea it's use to make a battery pack for a e-scooter Thanks for your references 0_

  • @adamcecere3369
    @adamcecere33695 жыл бұрын

    Hey Pete. How are you getting so many cells the same color for the perimeter of your Packs? Are the cells Heat Shrink, or are you just one lucky Guy? Great videos you do. Learned a lot from you. Thanks Pete.

  • @markkennard861
    @markkennard8614 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Im up to about 3000 cells so far for my power wall. To test cells I charge to 4.2 and again ensure they don't self discharge. Next I load with a 50w 12v halogen light bulb for around 5 secs. At 4.2v this load sucks around 2.5A. I do a quick load test and record the difference voltage. For example the best battery I have seen is the Samsung INR18650 25R which shows 100mV, ie 4.20 to 4.10 for a single cell. Most ex laptop cells are discarded for a reason, i would be happy if 2x ex laptop cells in parallel gave me 100mV. Whats your thoughts as im looking for a cut off point, ie chuck or use. Cheers, Mark ( in NZ)

  • @diegooolB
    @diegooolB6 жыл бұрын

    Hello! Great videos! I'm in the charging process and marking initial voltage.. most of them are around 4.05 to 4.18v... you only mention 4.2, do you avoid anything under 4.2??? Thanks!

  • @mck220

    @mck220

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have the same question

  • @danieliussipovic4704

    @danieliussipovic4704

    3 жыл бұрын

    good battery is considered, what I've seen, at 4.15-4.20 volts. I think new battery may not even have 4.2 (after charging and sitting ofc) :D

  • @efdawahfan

    @efdawahfan

    Жыл бұрын

    my batteries never stay at 4.2 they always between 4.14-4.18 ...so i dont know where he gets 4.2 after 1 month lol

  • @jylimports
    @jylimports5 жыл бұрын

    making a pack of this dead laptos batteries for my E-motorcycle how many cycles can I make?

  • @user-lb9bu9lu7k
    @user-lb9bu9lu7k4 жыл бұрын

    Да... количество конечно впечатляет... особенно конечно когда он в конце переводит камеру на стену - а там... - целая гора 18650 на полке!

  • @aussielass5621
    @aussielass56213 жыл бұрын

    would a normal recharge station for rechargeable batteries charge these batteries, a couple at a time

  • @Ziplock9000
    @Ziplock90004 жыл бұрын

    After capacity testing, should you leave them at the 3v? or charge them back up to nominal 3.7 for storage?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    These days i put them onto a storage charger at 3.7-3.8v

  • @electronicartis
    @electronicartis5 жыл бұрын

    When you put the Salvage cell in a project how long do you average it last.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    Going 2 1/2 years so far

  • @raabsand
    @raabsand6 жыл бұрын

    What's the cell discharger do you use or would you recommend

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I love the OPUS units - www.diypowerwalls.com/opus

  • @JimEpcotLive
    @JimEpcotLive6 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get those plastic black holders that hold the battery’s?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Amazon and ebay have them - amzn.to/2HRbXnd or goo.gl/khuX6A

  • @oldtimeengineer26
    @oldtimeengineer266 жыл бұрын

    holly cow I hope that wall and board are strong enough what I mountain of cells. Are they all good to to be tested?

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    40% good tested 60% bad tested - but looks 100% good, so we are all good lol

  • @safwanyousuf3570
    @safwanyousuf35704 жыл бұрын

    Ok pet I've started building my own...thanks though inspired like I always say... one thing if you want to check your mah instead of checking with a multi meter even on the laptop battery before breaking it theyll show you which one...I've checked I might be wrong but pls advise

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    if it understand what your saying corectly - Voltage has nothing to do with capicity. a 0.2v cell can be recovered to a 3000mah cell and in the same light can also be a 500mah cell.. test them all

  • @safwanyousuf3570

    @safwanyousuf3570

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HBPowerwall ok totally understood....another question is y do you have to charge and discharge your batteries before using it in a power wall because I mean we put all cells to full charge putting them upto 4.2 volts first so y discharge?

  • @cryptobulldog2563
    @cryptobulldog25635 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what i was looking for minus how to find how many Amps the batteries are. I will keep hunting for that, thanks for this video, keep up the great work.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    you might want to check out the cell data base for cell info secondlifestorage.com/celldatabase.php

  • @chitam4679
    @chitam46796 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get all those laptop batteries? I'm here in NY trying to reach out to local electronic stores and recycle facilities to see if they collect laptop batteries.

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I look everywhere and anywhere - hospitals, government offices & schools have been good to me

  • @ytrew9717
    @ytrew97174 жыл бұрын

    I've seen on the chanel diogonewild that some batteries that lose capacity overtime, can greatly improved after few charging cycle (3-5 cycle if I remember well)

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    4 жыл бұрын

    As I age i'm getting slower it's how this world works - I don't think anything gets better with time does it lol a few cycles might 'wake' a cell up but it doesn't fix any issues it has.

  • @spotifygaming95
    @spotifygaming956 жыл бұрын

    Nice stuff :) Might get myself an Opus if I know I can test them quicker that way :) As an aside, don't throw out the lower capacity cells. Do what I do and list them on eBay, someone will pay good money for them. I've had cells with

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    6 жыл бұрын

    I can't bring my self to sell them on eBay - I wait till someone asks for them and offers me a price - I half what every the price they want to pay lol they just aren't worth a lot and paying too much for low cells inflates the price of the good ones

  • @immrnoidall
    @immrnoidall3 жыл бұрын

    what amp am I charging them at?

  • @andrewu7198
    @andrewu719811 ай бұрын

    At 5:25 , after you tested for discharge capacity, what criteria did you use to determine that none of the batteries are worth keeping? Was it the measured capacity relative to the specified capacity on the datasheet? Is it a percentage (e.g. 80%)?

  • @RobinCernyMitSuffix

    @RobinCernyMitSuffix

    9 ай бұрын

    IIRC, he only uses cells that have more then 2Ah capacity for his power wall

  • @mrshenderson7740
    @mrshenderson77405 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos Pete. A question on hot cells, Everyone says if the cell gets hot, throw it away but how do you define hot :p What is your threshold? Thanks mate!

  • @HBPowerwall

    @HBPowerwall

    5 жыл бұрын

    I put my hand on the cells in the charger if they feel hotter than the rest that is reason enough to recycle them.