Good information. Nice to see SAPS timeframes improved lately.. took 11 months for my competency and 8 months for my license.

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely no science behind SAPS😂

@danielvanzyl3418

11 ай бұрын

Yet the LAW says 90days... Sad how the fools in power do NOT follow the law...

@sakhilemkhabela4637

5 ай бұрын

Same as mine eish I waited a very long time

If you can, do them all. Not just pistol. When the bug bites you'll be sorry.

@FirstTimeDad23

6 ай бұрын

> When the bug bites you'll be sorry What do you mean by this ?

@benlouw7009

6 ай бұрын

@@FirstTimeDad23 Do competency in all 3. Handgun,shotgun and rifles. Then when you want to buy a rifle later you don't have to do it all over again.

@FirstTimeDad23

6 ай бұрын

@@benlouw7009 Ahh thank you.

@jayceonmonnakgotla

5 ай бұрын

@benlouw7009 does the price change or its still the same?

@divan5158

5 ай бұрын

Just turned 20 and have done all the of them, now looking at buying a Cz p10c and then a diamondback ar15 later on down the line.

Got both my gun licenses 2 for me and one for my wife. Mine a Glog 45 and a semi auto Shot gun and Glog 43. It was really a pleasure to do it through Mark and a great team. I was told that I will never get the license for the shot gun. They did it successfully with no problems whatsoever. That time we were unfortunately waiting nearly 3 years to get the licenses. Can really recommend give them a visit when living inside the Western Cape.

Thanks for the opportunity to have a lekker chat, Ryan😁👌

@greymanoperations

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for all your input guys

@wadevanniekerk6130

11 ай бұрын

Hey guys, awesome information. Have you managed to get a section 14 done before? Would like to find out how does one goes about getting that, or will it be easier to just do section 16?

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

​@@wadevanniekerk6130 waaaay simpler to just go for section 16. It is very difficult to motivate for 14. You are also incredibly limited with 200 rounds and a 2 year licence. Section 16 is simpler to get, you can have unlimited ammo, the licence is valid for 10 years and you can use it for any lawful purpose, including self defence.

Well done on starting the process👍 Section 15 - occasional sport shooting / hunting 200 round limit Licence valid for 10 years. Limited to 4 firearms Section 16 - dedicated sport shooting / hunting. Unlimited ammo Valid for 10 years As many firearms as you can motivate.

@bestjobieverhad9584

11 ай бұрын

America Fill out a form Background check Unlimited ammo Unlimited magazines Buy guns into you're broke ccw Go to the local sheriff $10 copay Picture 5yrs

@deanseptember

10 ай бұрын

Where are you based

@bestjobieverhad9584

10 ай бұрын

@@deanseptember northeast PA

Just did my proficiency training for the combination manual 2 weeks back. Best decision of my life! I would highly suggest doing this as Mark mentioned. Not only will it save you time and money, you definitely wont regret it in the long run. Also dont let the certificate sit once you recieved it, make sure you apply for the competency immediately. Great advice guys. Keep up the good work.

My process took 2 years in total but I did apply for 4 firearms at the same time and it was as Covid started so it was not under normal situation. Best advice I can give is the sooner you start the process the sooner it will happen. Great info provided will point all my friends to your video. And thank you GunlicenceZA for there much needed assistance as SAPS is not the easiest to deal with.

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hey Mr Punisher 😎, unfortunately, many guys suffered long waiting periods during the pandemic. The Covid backlog has since been cleared up and approval times are close to normal. We absolutely agree with that statement; the sooner you start, the sooner you will be successful. And we appreciate your comment - we strive to make the firearm licensing process as easy as possible for everyone!

Mine took 9 months. From the day I decided to start the process until I picked my firearm up.

I just stumbled on this content, love it. Would love to see this conversation in more of a podcast time frame

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Poscast would be sick, we're looking into it

This is really helpful. I will be contacting these guys, they sound like they know their stuff

Great video covering everything for the complete first timers. Well done

Very useful information. Applied for my competency certificate in 2007 and I am still waiting.

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

wow

The cost and process is absolutely ridiculous. All of this just to own a firearm, which should be a God given right.

@Dgtrscn

7 ай бұрын

Come to America

@sizomdhlolo7284

5 ай бұрын

@@Dgtrscn yeah man😂😂😂

Handed my competency application in on the 8th of May… I’m still waiting. I think 2-3 months is a very very optimistic estimate 😂

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately no science behind the police😅 We have recently had several clients wait less than 1 month. The average if we factor several hundred applications is around 2-3 months, obviously many people do wait longer. The wait time also runs in cycles, so it will keep changing. The important thing is you have done what most people will never do and handed in your application😁👍

@elmarjacobs

11 ай бұрын

@@gunlicence I really appreciate the reply. I think the thing is you guys are operating in the Western Cape where I am in the Eastern Cape (PE). The police station I went to is absolutely clueless. I finished my proficiency training and tests in March already (handgun, manually operated and self loading). I made my appointment to hand it in for competency, and when I arrived on the day (after I put in leave from work) they were absolutely stunned that I was there. I then got told that their system is down (was down for over a month) and they wouldn’t help me. I finally handed it in on the 8th of May and I’m currently still waiting. it’s now been in process at CRC for the past few months. But yes, at least it’s in. Now just the waiting game. Even though it might be a headache and a half I would strongly encourage any law abiding citizens to get this done. Jy kan nie n vis vang as jou lyn nie in die water is nie… nou wag ons maar en kyk wat byt 😂

Very informative. Thank you. Good to have a channel like this in South Africa. Just subbed. Plus because of that Canik 😊 same as what i bought... Great content...

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man

Great channel. Glad I found it. Thanks for the great content. Viva Cape Town🎉

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man, glad you enjoy the content

1. At which point do you need to have a safe installed, is it before/during the competency application process or the licensing application process? 2. Does the DFO physically come to your home for the inspection of the safe and the premises? Very informative video and thank you for providing us with such information 🏆🔥

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hey Sibs, good question. 1. You only need a safe when applying for the firearm licence. (step 3) 2. Technically SAPS must do an in person inspection, however due to limited resources, most DFOs will be satisfied with photos and a safe declaration form👍

@sibs18-

11 ай бұрын

@@gunlicence Thank you for the clarification 👍🏽

New follower and subscriber here. I love the content and thank you for this video. as a Vw owner i find this video useful and i will do as adviced.

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man

sounds like human rights to self defense doesnt matter in sa

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

6 ай бұрын

Self defense is legal in South Africa. But there is a difference between self defense and gun ownership. The need to defend yourself is not an automatic entitlement to own a gun. Same way the need to drive a car in an emergency situation (like driving a dying person to the hospital) does not mean you should be allowed to own a car. What I'm trying to say is, regardless of whether you have a gun license or not, when it comes to defending your life... you can use any gun for self defense. If there happens to be a gun laying around while someone is shooting at you, you have the right to use that gun to defend yourself. But when it comes to owning your own personal gun that will belong to you personally, it is not a right. So even if you lawfully defend yourself with a gun but the gun is not legally owned, you will not be penalized to harshly for defending yourself but the judge is going to be harsh on you for owning a weapon illegally. So you might avoid a murder charge, but you may get a manslaughter charge and also get banned from applying for a gun license.

@n3r0manishere37

6 ай бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior To me, there is no difference between the two, the government permission slip means absolute zilch, nada, nothing. Unfortunately, I do not believe SA has an amendment similar to the 2A in America. Now, America has commie states that attempt to ban and enforce the permission slips, but they are continually getting shut down for violations of god given rights.

Good clear and precise information...thank you..

@greymanoperations

11 ай бұрын

Thanks dude, glad you liked it

Thank you for the info and insights. Important stuff.

Great educational content. Topic is on point 👌

This is great! Thanks again on this detail vid.

Solid information! Thank you Ryan!

@greymanoperations

11 ай бұрын

Thanks man

Very informative. Thanks to both of you. Appreciated boys

Pity i did not know about this service a few years ago when i got my license. Was a process of nearly 2 years. But i will know for future reference.

Amazing content, thanks so much!

@greymanoperations

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man

Wow things are expensive there in CPT ok was on special but paid R2200 for all 5 and then R350 for the pack .

Good video and informative - just one comment/concern - If I heard Mark correctly, "a 40 to 70 Page Motivation".. no wonder the application process takes so long, the CFR Officials have to read dissertations before they consider a license application.

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hi there Gwakie 🙂, we strive to always deliver on our full money-back guarantee (we have been very successful thus far) and therefore we draft such large comprehensive motivations. SAPS has a long list of reasons why they can refuse an applicant, so our mission is to block each and every one of those reasons. While a 40 to 70 page motivation might sound excessive, we make sure that we cover all bases 💪

@1Gwakie

11 ай бұрын

@@gunlicence Hi folks, thanks for the response... understood.

My competency is stuck at CRC at the moment. Hoping it doesn't take too long. I have purchased my CZ PO7, and have all my documents ready for the motivation and license app. Just waiting on SAPS. No way around that. 😢

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hang in there!

Very good info, Thank you.

Very usefull video. thanks so much

I'm new on the page I'm gonna enjoy it here

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man!!

I currently have a Browning Hi Power for self defence. What is the process if I want to change firearms? ie, sell Browning and purchase maybe a Glock, both 9mm para.

All 4modules of training is very important to be done at once-you will need them...from handgun to self loading 😂❤

Valuable information

Can all you legal guys please explain to me why NO ONE is taking on SAPS for NOT following the law? Why should we as law abiding citizen's have to follow the law when those in charge of applying the law can do as they wish? When are we going to take the police minister and his corrupt fools to task on this issue? It's time for this system to get digital and as fluent as those in other countries like USA!

Great content

Bro is right in most cases if you comply with the police you will not have any issues.

Like Always a awesome video 🎉

@greymanoperations

11 ай бұрын

Thanks dude

Living in South Africa you need to own your own firearm/firearms if you can afford it...LEGALLY. Use all the information in this video to obtain your own firearms legally!

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

100%

Thank you guys for this video it is needed

Thanx guys good content

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

perfect show man. sub'd,liked and bell

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thanks dude!

Hi everyone! I'm a newbie here and don't know much about guns. Should I start with proficiency training or Natshoot? I'm really into hunting and love rifles, a passion I inherited from my late father. He let me shoot a pellet gun, which was thrilling. He had about five guns, including a World War II sniper rifle, which he eventually turned in. I'm eager to get into sport hunting ofcoz safety for my family.

How to buy a gun Step 1 Got to police station Step 2 buy gun from corruption armory overseer Step 3 go home.

Good day If I want to collect guns do I need a license for all or will it be one license and all serial numbers will be Added?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

You would need be a licensed collector

I applied for a firearm licence from 2021 till now Still waiting

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Thats insane

Hi guys, awesome video. Can you submit your application at any police station or just the one nearest to you?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Gotta be the one in your area

Im still waiting for hand gun licence from 2021 Its now 2024 still no sms

Hey Ryan! Just a further question regarding police stops/checkpoints, I’ve heard of police taking pictures of you/ your firearm and or license, this makes me quite uncomfortable, I am more than happy to comply with and “humor” them and do as requested, but that to mee feels like a violation of the POPIA or not even that necessarily but I don’t know what happens to that photo, we all know the facts regarding rogue police elements etc, your thoughts? Should I allow that?

OMG what the hell... here in America its so different... a Concealed Carry good for 5 years with FBI ck takes 2 months max.

Awesome, awesome and informative video. I really dig your channel as it is SA focused. I have my Sec 13, approved a month ago. I want to get a second handgun under Sec 15 sometime early next year. Do I need to do handgun proficiency and competency again, or do I use my same proficiency and competency I got for Sec 13? Thanks in advance!

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hi there Deshan 😄, you do not have to redo any proficiency training in order to license a second handgun. Your competency will only have to be renewed alongside your S13 handgun when the time comes. So, you would use the same proficiency certificates and competency certificate for a S15 licence application. Please let us know if we can help you out with your S15 application, once you're ready 😁

@DeshanNaidoo

11 ай бұрын

@gunlicence7269 thanks so much, appreciate it 🙏

This video is helpful

The competency approvals is more 5 months SApS is useless and applying for license is also 4 months roughly its took close to a year kimi. How can we improve this process???

good video very informative

Almost two years just for my renewels to get prosessed,three years for my brother to get license for pistol,the sysytem is not working very poor

Good information. What if i handed in my weapon course of my license expired?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

So it'll basically mean you restart the whole process from scratch

I believe all we need is to have a valid ID ,no criminal record and no psychological issues to be able to buy atleast a handgun

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Those are the minimum requirements yes

After how many years do you have to renew your firearm license? Also can you do a license, but not purchase a firearm immediately?

I applied for handgun licence in 2022 still waiting no sms Visit saps in my area still nothing on system

Good day. I require your help , i will soon be required to do an extensive amount of travlling for work within SA , do you know which airlines allows you to check in your handgun and is the most clued up and easy to go through the whole process with. Thanks you

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hi there 😁. The last airline we came in contact with, regarding flying with firearms, was LIFT. I would recommend contacting them beforehand to confirm any specifics surrounding their firearm policies. Hope this helps!

@sl-uj3px

11 ай бұрын

@gunlicence7269 Thank you for the reply , I will contact them in due course . Hopefully, the process is seamless and smooth, and my weapon makes it to the end of the flight without getting "Lost"

@sl-uj3px

11 ай бұрын

I will be sure to get in contact with you with an update of my experience . Regards

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!@@sl-uj3px , please do! 😁

Hi there, I would like to know something.. Seeing that I own a business license, will I be able to apply for private as well seeing that I went through the process of writhing all the exams and have been to basic firearm training? Looking forward to your feedback. 😊

Is there a way to counteract impersonators when my device is requested during a stop

Hi I handed in my motivation at my local police station, and I read somewhere that I'm supposed to have 2 copies of my ID, but I only have 1 copy in my motivation. Will this be an issue ?

Interesting Sec 15, please, more information indeeped on Sec 15 and Sec 16 please I've just started with the process few months ago

@MeshackSoldaat-jq8ce

5 ай бұрын

How many years the competence of three fire arms are available for business perpuse and for my own handgun please clarity R

Howzit, Hows your reliability been on the TP9 if you dont mind me aasking ? Busy looking at the Canik range but stuck on a choice for my EDC between the Mete SC and the Glock 19 Gen5 MOS, I know all the glock Fanbois will say Glock due to parts, reliability etc, but I'm actually wanting to purcahse 2 of the Mete SC Firearms, one for me and one for my partner.

My question is i did apply for hand gun license than my application declined they said I failed to give good reasons why do I want to possess firearm I got competence now I don't know what step must I take now I need help plz if u can

I have a question. I'm a 29-year-old male and I really want a firearm for home defense, but my problem is that literally, my whole family is anti-gun. If the police phone my next-of-kin (or any family member for that matter), there is no way that they will give their thumbs up. Is this always the case?

@mawethusunduza1047

6 ай бұрын

Get a friend and a colleague

@joshua7233

6 ай бұрын

@@mawethusunduza1047 Thanks!

Where in South Africa? What country?

Does the SANDF member go the same root?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

As far as I understand, if you're buying it as a private citizen to use for person protection then yes

I am now here

i recently inherited a winston i need help in getting all the right boxes ticked

I'm renting a property can I still get a firearm license 🤔

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

If allowed by the owner of the property

I have a friend who's dad had various licenses for pistol, rifle, shotgun, and who subsequently passed away. Is it possible for him to get the guns transferred to him by doing a new application for them? Is there any difference to the process in the case the licenses have expired? Thank you

@gunlicence

10 ай бұрын

Hi there @on_the_saddle 😁your friend would be able to apply for these firearms, should he complete the steps of obtaining his proficiency certificates and applying for his competency. SAPS has confirmed that if the licence holder has passed, and the firearm licences were not renewed before the holder passed, a new applicant may still hand in applications for those firearms. The executor/administrator of the deceased's estate would simply have to sign the SAPS 271 forms 👌

So after your done with all the three steps until you get your firearm can you carry everyday and be an active firearm owner.? And also can my three steps be approved if I don't have a safe box in my household.?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

You must have a safe in your house, the police will need to see pics

Hi where is this guns shop plz

Sheeeeeeesh glad I’m in 🇺🇸

@Dgtrscn

7 ай бұрын

Same here 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸

Got mine from competency to license in five months.

I handed in my pistol at SAPS before Covid because my licence expired. SAPS eventually send my pistol for destruction. 1. Can I challenge SAPS for distructing my pistol. 2. My friend is in possession of the exact pistol like i had and his licence also expired and he wants to get rid of it, so can i buy his gun and licence it.

Basically to sum up the video: "Guys be lekker and the police will be lekker."

Is it possible to buy a hand gun from the foreign country?

@greymanoperations

6 ай бұрын

Do you mean, buy the firearm in the US and bring it to SA? I dont think it's allowed. It has to be bought via an approved firearm dealership in SA

@worldofsportshd1904

6 ай бұрын

@@greymanoperations yes i meant that thank you so much 🌹

Does a competency expire for business or personal... Because mine just has the date of issue nothing else

@gunlicence

10 ай бұрын

Hi there Marco 😁, a competency certificate will expire after 5 years if you have not licensed any firearms after obtaining your SAPS-issued competency. If you were only issued a Section 13 licence, you would simply renew your competency each time you renew your firearm licence. For the guys who have licensed firearms under Section 15, competency would be renewed every 10 years. If you work in the private security industry, it is also a good rule of thumb to renew your competency 5 years after the issue date. I hope this helps! 🤘

Just a question from a guy who knows nothing. Does anyone know the legalities of having a "truck gun"? i.e. a semi auto rifle that you keep in your car "just in case"

@gunlicence

11 ай бұрын

Hi there Ian 😁 , you can apply for any semi-automatic rifle such as an AK or AR-15 should you follow the correct process (Proficiency, Competency, achieving your Dedicated Status, and finally Licensing). You are allowed to transport any firearm in a bag, box or holder/holster which has been designed or adapted to carry that firearm - you may also use that firearm for self defence, should there be an imminent and unlawful attack against human life. However, the firearm cannot be exposed (firearms have to be fully concealed in any public space) and the firearm may not be left in your vehicle when you are not present 👍

@ianjacobs7065

11 ай бұрын

@@gunlicence appreciate it, thank you

So basically i need how much?

@ruanvanderwesthuizen2379

4 ай бұрын

Alot

😂😂 Is this guy converting from usd to zar 😂😂😂😂 good informative content though 💪💪

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I'm Zimbabwean and am a farmer and also in freight forwarding. I'm licenced in Zimbabwe since I own business How can I buy ammo and a firearm in SA for taking back to Zim. I need beef my security Thanks

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S.A or African country are held back by some religious beliefs

ALOHA...guys great chat....however, one correction on Marks response regarding the Amnesty licenses...Yes its a new application saps 271...however YOUR competency Must be valid at the point of submission for your new licence, if NOT the competency will be submitted first to SAPS office, once competency is approved, then you may Submit your new licence for the expired firearm.....ola