Thank you for making this video, I know it's simple but seeing you do it in all your other efficiency videos I've always been curious to see this particular aspect of the build in more detail.

That underneath-fed style does look great.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

yeh it's my favourite style

@od1401

3 жыл бұрын

The most labour intensive though. Try setting up a heavy modular frame factory with that style, you'll end up tearing your hair out lol

This video has single handedly opened my eyes to factory layout. Until now I had no clue how to get a clean looking factory that doesn't completely suck

Really nice and helpful thank you and I will start tomorrow with my factory idea, I'm already hyped to realise it

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's going to look great! You'll have to send over some screenshots or let me do a FFF episode on it when it's finished!

Hey TotalXclipse, I bought Satisfactory couple of weeks ago and I just love it. I saw a lot of videos from a lot of people and I want to say that your videos are the best. I like the way you talk and how you explain things, super helpfull. Thank you very much. Big Subscribe

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Mario Martinez thanks! This means so much to me! I’m glad I’m able to help you out, like you said this games amazing and I’m looking forward to developing this channel for the community, I’m in the process of building a website to go alongside these videos and I’ve got some plans to help make the videos even better when the games released to steam ☺️

@drewdebrocke2656

3 жыл бұрын

Check out kibitz he's pretty awesome too

@MarioMartinez_

3 жыл бұрын

@@drewdebrocke2656 I saw couple of his videos, I don't like him... he's shouting all the time. I prefer @TotalXclipse, he's more chill

@drewdebrocke2656

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarioMartinez_ true but he is informational like him and has awesome worlds like xclipse

Awesome stuff. I’m just starting out and hadn’t thought of these. Thanks!

This is exactly the kind of video I needed.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could help you out!

Down to basics, explained everything step by step. Subscription and like earned wholeheartedly. Keep it up!

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad you felt the content worthy enough for a subscribe! I have a new guide that will be released on Wednesday and hopefully another on Thursday :)

This was the single most useful satisfactory video I've watched. The hidden belting makes it look very sharp. How do you wire it? Underground?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

You can wire things from below, and I've covered that in a video but my prefered method is using wall joints, if you join me for the 5x5 challenge on twitch at some point (next week Wednesday and Friday 6pm - 10pm BST ) you'll see how nice you can make the wiring in factories... It's a challenge build so you have to be very careful with all the positioning. I think you'll appreciate it if you liked the underfed belts. :)

This is really great base designing!

love your videos, great and precise content ^-^

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I really appreciate it! I try to make them as concise and easy to follow as possible... I obviously have places where I can improve on them but I'm happy knowing that they're heading in the right direction :)

Just subbed! Thanks 😍

An amazing guide! I learned a lot watching this video and will implement some of these ideas to my current base.

Nice one ! what is the color code in order to have the same color for my walls and machine like you please ?

Thank you thank you thank you soooo much. I’ve been wanting to like this game and this has helped me out a LOT I actually made my first part of my “main” factory look kinda nice. I know it’s and older vid but this has helped me tremendously. Definitely subbing

The small extra space given between the constructor and manifold/Splitter gives it a better look! It does not always need to be that compact in my opinion.. Just another good tip, Thanks!

I figured that out myself and im Happy about it, i always asked myself if this is a viable Option and if its Efficient, but it is and i have Fun in Satisfactory building like that. The Idea with the Lifts is awesome, it looks clean, i should have done that in the first place ^^ Thank you for the Video :D

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

░▒▓█▇▆▅▄▃▂Gous▂▃▄▅▆▇█▓▒░ I’m glad I could help you out with some suggestions! Such an awesome game with so many possibilities

@-Gous-

4 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse Very true its a Lovely Game for sure, you can do much and build so many things in different ways, one of the best i have Played too

My base is a disaster, but I'm producing aluminum sheets and built my first Nuclear Power plant, so I'm happy with that. Love watching your videos as someday I may try and make a super clean base :).

Hey, have you changed the exterior of the storage cylinder thing? Can we have another look at that? I've just laid the foundations to my own centralised storage and could some inspiration.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

The exterior is more or less the same just above it is different (covered in a let's play) but we'll be changing it again.

really helpful

Hi good Sir, I followed your guide, Brilliant. Took a while to position the assemblers. As 1 or 2 would over lap the foundation, but they still connected fine to the splitter's with the MK3 lifts. But just fumbling about, I found that after putting a Storage there to test feed the line with Steel girders. I covered them perfectly over with those F-industries conveyor foundations ( I used the single holed sloping foundations) then covered those with the inverted ones and it sealed all over, splitters and all, below the level of the assemblers. The feed lines not interrupted, continued to feed though a neat hole. All covered. just the constructors and mk3 lift heads showing. Just looked neat and blended inside the foundations. I'm guessing but, maybe you could cover all conveyors completely into the foundations with them. (I'm SteelHorn on Steam. I'll pop examples pics on,) I bet You know this, but just in case. Godbless, stay safe.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! You’re absolutely right you could potentially cover the whole manifold in foundations from f industries or even just the outputs and then use the d ramps to clip through the build to cover it up depending on your appeal ☺️

17:10 when i invented that method to build (just bought the game at the steam release and had not watched any video before that did it that way) i "folded" also the outputs of the constructors back under the constructors themselves and didn't place walls at the tunnel. thus i had a really large area under the constructors to walk around, have additional belts (eg to supply the second half of a long row of constructors), and also have easy access to all the belts in case of upgrading them later. it is too narrow to crouch under the belts, but it's possible to run 1 or 2 steps and then slide under them :-) extending the principle to more complicated setups, i did a small (only 3x3 foundations, plus some "overhanging" lifts at two sides, total height 4 plus height of machines) layout with 6 smelters/constructors to make screws from ore with relatively perfect ratios (30>2x15>3x10>3x40=120), that would even be tilable when upgrading my impure iron to a MK2 miner and using a MK3 belt for screws: feeding ore in the center via lift to one smelter, splitting its output to two rod makers (1 lift down, split and possibly belt away surplus of ingots when screws back up, 2 lifts up), then in the center merge and split 2 outputs to 3 screw makers, and at the other side 3 lifts (once again "folded" under the constructors) and an underground merger to belt away the screws. my current problem: how do i build and connect a central storage (without causing too much spaghetti) where i can easily drop all the products from these small separate solutions, also get items for other such small setups or to handcraft something, and most of all also be able to manually insert/drop some surplus from my inventory to that system (especially when all storage is already full; i need logical combinators which stop belts/production when half full :-). is there some video which shows any help for such a system ?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the message, the only video I have on getting Items to a centralised storage area is by train, if you want I can link you the video but I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. A how to "bus" items to the factory is on the (long) list of videos to do though

@Anson_AKB

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse i'm just trying to setup my first coal plant. a single burner was easy to do, but despairing a bit with connecting pipes and cross-junctions to swimming non-aligned machines now. also finished all research and upgrades until end of tier4 except for quartz and of course oil. while waiting endlessly for the items to finish that i have to send to space, i tried reorganizing my factory and building some easily accessible storage (because requirements changed all the time and i often didn't know where to get or drop items from my inventory), which (to me) is more difficult than everything else :-) :-( building a bus (group or stack of belts) is easy, but how do i connect it efficiently and easily accessible to "storage in/out" ? and of course trains are not available yet either. oh well, finding out everything yourself should be the goal, but i currently try to get some shortcuts to this from yt when running out of patience because i can't quickly/easily build, delete and move setups by using blueprints (10k+ hours on factorio :-)

Fun fact, if you use the slowest belt that meets the requirements (if you need 15 a min use mk1 belts, if you need 100 a min use mk2 belts ect) and the fastest one you have for the main belts, and it will automatically back up the side ones. Running mk1 belts going to the machines and mk4 belts down the middle will result in 480 a min input, but 120 going off to the sides and 360 continuing down. Obviously this falls short after 8 machines but its enough to get you going.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Yep thats a really good point, which I should have mentioned in the video! Thanks :)

@jordanhoman0212

5 ай бұрын

Manifolds only become efficient when all except the last two machines are full of items. Doing this helps to get more machines running sooner, but more machines running means less excess to fill machines, so this actually makes manifolds even slower than normal. the fastest manifold setup is with high speed belts everywhere and smart splitters set to overflow down the manifold, so the machines fill one at a time. One exception to this would be if each machine needs exactly 60 or 120 items/min, but that's pretty rare if you do any underclocking.

After this video and 50 game play hours, i can begin to play SATISFACTORY. Thanks so much, really helped

For the bottom fed manifold you can also, for easier access when upgrading, build in a seperate access to the spaces below, or above, the main floor. Sort of like maintenance "half-floors" in-between the main floors.

Noice! Didn't even think about using conveyor lifts before this video, really. Thanks again!

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help ☺️

Something I found out might be a little bit more efficient is a reverse manifold design where the output goes out the middle and input goes in the sides. Fills up conveyors twice as fast and all the output goes out one conveyor so less space used for merging them if thats what you need to do. Definitely you will need mk3-5 belts though for machines with higher outputs. Btw no idea if reverse manifold is the right way to say it but whatever. I use them for my factory in the game all the time now

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not quite sure I understand, could you send a screenshot of one and tag me in the post on my discord, I'd be really interested in seeing your suggestion! :)

I had no idea the way I was building had a name lol.

@kv-2panthera4

3 жыл бұрын

@Prince Hector BOT

@kv-2panthera4

3 жыл бұрын

@Kendrick Blaze you aswell

Do you have any tips on connecting manifolds together? Like if I've got a smelter manifold making bars that I want to go to plates and bars, how should I go about doing that? Or is that just basic organization? And if I wanted to then put some of the bars towards screws, would I just put a splitter going off to a manifold making screws while the other half goes to storage? Not a super complex question, I'm just really new to this sort of game, hahaha.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

It depends how you want to play . I wouldn’t do one array for everything, but If you did, split the lines right at the beginning between the three resources then setup the manifolds. What I tend to do is workout how many rods/plates I need then do a smelting array just for that section

Hey man I just realized that if the two splitters are stacked on top of one another you can just connect them directly without all this complications. You just need a slight distance between splitters and the machines. Manufacturers need more space than assemblers naturally

This is super helpful! I just bought the game, and trying to figure everything out is a little overwhelming lol. So, using a manifold I assume that you would need a separate manifold for each raw material?? Or could you use smart sorters and just have everything dump down a single line and auto sort?

@michaeljespersen6151

3 жыл бұрын

Never, ever mix items and ressources on belts, it's super messy and leads to clogs that will affect your entire system. Imagine you feed a belt with 4 different items for 4 different types of production, and just one of those stops (maybe because the container it feeds into fills up), now you've shut down all 4 productions, instead of just the 1.

@noahbrown6455

2 жыл бұрын

🤡

Quick question for you! When I've tried replicating this, it keeps saying that I'm encroaching space. When I use the largest foundations and dig a 1 width trench, I can't get the elevators to connect without switching to 2 width. What am I doing wrong?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

It could be you're slightly too close, try pushing the constructors back by one space or you may need to attempt to connect the manifold by connecting the lift from the constructor to the manifold or perhaps try doing it from the manifold to the constructor.

@ClayInvictus

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same problem just now. The thing was that the elevator can't go down when you make the first connection to the smelter. Instead it has to look like it's going up. When you've made the first connection you should be able to go down and make the second connection to the splitter just fine.

Really cool concept. I'm new to this type of game, I put about 4 hours into it so far, at Tier 2. What do you typically do for parts you need for building that are also downstream? Do you typically build a line and dump them into containers just to have parts on hand, then make new lines to create higher tier items? My other question, that is slightly related, is do you typically prefer to keep all production of a specific item localized, such as keeping all your screw production in one area, or have screw production at each area where they're required?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

For item localisation it depends entirely on items, for example I'd never bulk produce screws unless they're in the factory they need to be used as transporting x number of screws at lower tiers is impossible due to conveyor throughput, but more advanced items, yes. I'm working on a build currently, that always returns items to a storage after manufacturing before heading to a new factory, I find it useful for keeping things organised and that way I have some in storage and a load heading to where they need to be :)

@MetalPirate

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse As a guy who works in data I like that, hah. Basically more of a central "Distribution Center" sort of model.

Hey I just bought the game and started playing last week, so I'm a bit of a noob still. I only recently finished tier 2 and I'm getting ready to enter tier 3 and 4 and the madness they bring with steel and trucks and whatnot. Your videos, and those of the other wonderful people that make tutorials and tips for this amazing game, have been endlessly helpful so thank you very much 😄 I have a couple of questions, and it would be awesome if I could get some answers from someone who knows what they're doing. 1: What's better? To process the materials (ores -> ingots for example) where I mine them, or have a central place for that? Right now I have a central place near my main factory, but it's quickly becoming a nightmare to manage them. 2: Are manifolds better than load bearing? Right now I'm doing load bearing, but my factory is quickly turning into a mess of unmanageable spaghetti. But I don't have access to high tier belts, only mk2, so I'm afraid manifolds would starve some of my machines. Thank you for making these videos once again, you're awesome and I'm definitely subbing.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! I'm so glad you're finding the guides helpful, there are a few really helpful content creators for satisfactory :) to answer your first question I recommend taking the smallest items on the buses so don't smelt copper ingots at source and then turn them into wire there only to send them on, same with screws. Do that at the factory. Iron and copper can be taken to the factory as it's 1 ore to 1 ingot, but things like caterium that requires 3 ore to 1 ingot if you're transporting over longer distances I'd smelt at the source. As for manifolds vs load balancers they're as good as each other you just have to give the system time to warm up (the manifold has to be fully saturated) but providing you have the correct ratio of machines to ingredients, it's should be as efficient as a load balancer

@thatexoguy6721

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse Thank you for taking the time to answer 😊 I just discovered caterium yesterday, so I didn't smelt any yet to see the ore to ingots ratio. But yes, if it's 3 ores for 1 ingot it's definitely worth smelting where I mine it. And about manifolds, they seem like load balancers but without the hassle and with a warmup time. I can definitely live with a warmup time, so I'll do them from now on.

@TotalXClipse: The Constructors won't be all 100% efficient producing equal amounts right? Last Constructor has lowest feeding rate. I had the same problem with my coal setup with one 120 coal line feeding 8 coal power plants. Tried your setup feeding from below and pipes up but ended with canal of 2 foundations. Couldn' do 8 equal lines in the limited space of 1 foundation canal. Playing my first playthrough. I guess the shown setup in your coal power plant design is for later progress? Can I send later exact 15 item per minute to one output and rest to other output? Or is there a similar design with equal lines?I'm quiet new to the game. TIA

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! You're right to a certain extent, at first the last constructors wont receive the items they need, however once the first constructors line is fully saturated, the extra items will over flow to the next splitter, and this will eventually feed to the last constructors. So long as the line is running at the correct ratios to constructors then eventually the factory will run at 100% :)

I'm still pretty early game. I have yet to make steel ingots. I am currently setting up my first steel ingot line culminating in steel beams. This will be my first production line inside a building rather than out in the open. It takes a lot more time and resources to build inside, but it's much more satisfying. I'm going to strive to make my factories neat and tidy, but most importantly beautiful. I find the game a lot more rewarding to focus on making a factory that is very organized and looks good. It can be frustrating and a lot of work, but I find myself getting determined to make a line look and function just right and then I look at the clock and 5 hours have gone by. UPDATE: I got the steel beam line going. I love seeing all the raw resources go into the factory and the machines and spitting out products. Perhaps I will upload a quick clip of this factory in action. It's so satisfying to look at. NOTE: Make sure all of your conveyors are the speed you want as one tiny piece of slow conveyor can mess up your entire operation. lol

It works the same way if you are producing the input in front of the constructors, i mean the "oferflow principle"? Good video as always!!

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

JesusCasintra yes so if you’re putting everything onto a bus after you can use a manifold with mergers the same way as we did with the splitters behind the constructors

Can you tell me how you unlock your camera like that? I haven't been able to figure out how to get out of first person view

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

It's still first person, however I use the photo mode to record. press P, then middle mouse button. In videos where I use overhead shots for time lapses, I'm playing on two separate games at the same time.

Fun fact, most of the time you can make the lift only two splitters high when connecting splitter to machines directly. at least with the refineries

@TotalXclipse

Жыл бұрын

Honestly never had that issue personally, not sure why it would only limit you to two high

Does this still work? I can't get a splitter in the middle and fit the lift on the side (let alone 1 on each side). It seems to require more of an extension when it connects out the side and hits the way instead of being flush between the splitter and lift.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I use it in all my games, so it should work for you too, maybe you're slightly too close or too far. Depending on the manufacturer you may need extra space between inputs and outputs

How about making an accessway to do that from underneath

How are you deleting multiple items? Is that a mod? Thanks for the video!

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Short cut keys for inventory Hold CTRL and left click to move items to be deleted

Can I recommend putting chapters in your videos, start times for the different builds covered would be wonderful

are you using a mod for the looks of the buildings? your machines look so much cleaner compared to mine..

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, no mods for changing the look of them I'm afraid :s

@CyberStyleZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse so it's just that they are painted white? how do you have them painted white when placing?

@instatortoise3210

4 жыл бұрын

@@CyberStyleZ open your color gun, edit your using preset and apply the changes. should automatically update all building with that newly edited colour-scheme.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

@@CyberStyleZ Once you unlock the colour gun, you can set different colours to be used. The default colour used on everything is the very first option is that one, if you change that colour it changes everything that's preset to the default to the new colour :)

What's the best way to do a double underfed system (i.e. foundry)

@MrBdericks

3 жыл бұрын

like you have at the 18:00 mark

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

You can set it up providing you have a at least 1 large foundation depth but I like to do these double manifolds under the floor along half-pipes.

What I want to see, mainly because I struggle with it, is routing resources. I tend to separate my "tier 1" factories and then pump their produce to a main base. So I usually have quite a bit of Iron Plates/Rods/Screws, Copper Sheets/Wire/Cable, and Steel Beams/Pipes heading to a building. Using a nice circular main bus to distribute them to Assembler lines is not a huge deal, but then pushing them and the assembly produce to Manufacturers is where I run into trouble and all of my well organized factories and lines start to fall into disarray.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

That's a big video to undertake! - Sounds like it could be a big headache... and fun so sure! I'll get round to it, but I may have to wait to have wifi as that'll be a long one and I'm not sure my data will handle it! I'd recommend using a storage system to pool Items from one factory to your main factory and from there maybe use load balancers to get the number of items required per minute in order to run more complex manufacture lines at 100% clock :)

How do you decide when to scale up production? Do you just feed manifold systems any amount of resources you like till they eventually get saturated then add some extra? I just don't know how you're supposed to plan for getting a set amount out of a manifold system when it's just like "ehh throw stuff at it till it's totally swamped" or is that kind of the point?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I go by conveyor speed or end item production requirements, if I'm running MK2 conveyors I know I can have 120 items on a single manifold or 240 on a hybrid (splitting the first splitter between the start of the line and the end of the line) so on a single manifold I could say run 8 constructors creativing rods (15pm) or on a hybrid or I guess an inverted manifold is probably a better name I could run 16 constructors. If however I have an item that needs 150 rods to be built. Then I know my manifold needs a total of 10 constructors and I'll need to find a way to fit 150 iron ingots along that bus

@MonkEsquire

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse Hmm I think I get what you're saying. So by your example you want 120 rods a minute to come out, you just put the right amount of ingots on the input and as long as you have enough constructors it sort of just works itself out in the end and eventually you get the output you want? No matter if the first constructor gets 100% efficiency and the last constructor only gets 10% it eventually works out. Do you then have to manifold ore into ingots? Or do you generally load balance the smelting process that and only manifold the constructor phase and beyond?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@MonkEsquire There is a "warm up period" but once the belt is saturated - and it will if you fill the conveyor with the same amount of input resources as your constructors require. All will eventually run at 100% efficiency. You can manifold for any instance that you might use a load balance :)

@MonkEsquire

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse Ah so it'll always saturate if you input the right amount? That makes sense. But how do you know how many constructors you need for a given manifold? In your example with 8 constructors and 120 items how do you work out the required amount of constructors?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@MonkEsquire I look at the recipe in a constructor. Say i need 180 iron rods. I'll go to a constructor and see how many rods a constructor makes per minute. which is 15. so I then divide the 180 by the 15IPM which leaves me with 12. That's the amount of constructors that I'll need for that line. I'll also need to use mk3 belts

Im having so much trouble.. With the manifold feeding from the bottom I cannot get the lift to move items. Everything connects fine but the lift doesn't do anything. I got one to work, I did exactly the same on the next one and it didn't work. Is their a trick?

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

so are there any items on the conveyor elevator? If so you know the input is fine and that it's the output thats the issue. a big clue as to whether the out put is inline is to listen for a little beep when you're in the right position. if you have no beep, check that they're connected. If you're a place out you may need to connect the output or input with a conveyor.

@jamesdodson5554

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the reply! I think I've got it, atleast I do in the above ground configuration. I am using foundations from Moar Factories and I think I was mixing them up which may have caused an issue. The Items were going into the splitter, and then stopping at the lift. There were no items traveling through the lift (The items were not visible in the uncovered portion of the lift) and there was not enough space to connect with a conveyer. Im gonna jump in game now and see if I can make it work with consistent foundations. Thanks again! Really love your content.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesdodson5554 No worries, I always try to reply :) Yep that could well have been the issue , the other possibility is if you placed the splitter onto the belt rather than connecting the belt to the splitter, sometimes it doesn't register a segment of belt! Thanks for the kind words :) we''ll have plenty more content coming this week :)

This was very helpful. I’m a “new” player to the game, i recently finished a play through of the game... My definition of “finished” is being able to manufacture anything and everything, having nuclear power, and having all M.A.M research completed(I’m working on finishing up on unlocking all of the “AWSOME Shop” blueprints tho). As of now, my mains save file has approximately 70 Hours on it, and I made the big mistake of barely using foundations. So my bace is a mess and efficiency is not the best. So I plan on just letting my factory run while I’m AFK so I can stock up on steel and heavy modular frames and basically ship my entire factory’s bace tear products by train to the most north east area of the map and build a visually pleasing and efficient mega-factory. Any tips for this would be greatly appreciated, I haven’t watched a single tutorial up until this point so I’m a self taught player.

Did the dimensions of the lifters change in a recent update or something. I see no way to get the splitter and two lifters in a one wide trench like you have here. :(

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe it's changed, it could depend entirely on whether you're connecting the elevator from the splitter or the constructor/assembler though

@GeorgeGoosen

3 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue.. cant get the elevator to connect (not enough space)

@GeorgeGoosen

3 жыл бұрын

NVM, you have to connect to the constructor first

@GeorgeGoosen

3 жыл бұрын

@@b.delacroix7592 could be the lifters are slightly (although not visibly) away from the machine. Try hovering between the lifter and the machine with your mouse to see if you can place a conveyor between the 2. You may not see the conveyor but you will hear the snap sound.

@b.delacroix7592

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeGoosen Yea, they don't quite line up so you have to fiddle a bit to get it going. I'm also using the half pipes underneath so I can walk under if I want to updgrade the conveyor and thus not deal with having to defloor the area when that stage comes along. Thanks.

Correction: not ALL balancers imidietly split perfectly. Outputs of balancers that balance to prime numbers approach the number, but never reach it, due to how they have to work.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, well said

@TheBaldr

4 жыл бұрын

I've always railed against balance systems because they are not perfectly balanced, lag, programming, etc. will never be able to be perfectly balanced, an overflow system design allows for errors and an occasional extra part makes things more efficient.

@UNSCPILOT

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBaldr also! Having that supply buffer of the manifold filling machines nonstop acts as a buffer to keep machines working consistently, making your power use much more stable and predictable, which is double important for power generation too (and running the miners slightly faster than the powerplants to keep power output from jumping around, building a 3 miner 24 coal plant powerplant has been a interesting learning experience, and my friends get 1800 megawatts more power as a bonus to keep us from constantly overloading our power grid... at least for a day or two

The one thing I like to do with a manifold setup is put a merger at the start and a smart splitter at the end and create and overflow loop back to the beginning merger. To dump the extra back into the mainline in. Not sure if it makes a difference, but it feels like it keeps the last machines on the lines fill equally

awsome

Time to shut down the whole newbie plant down and rework it. What NO ONE seems to cover is working these ideas into a true beginner-ish level. You're using mk3 elevators (I don't have them yet). Those constructors aren't free. Where I started the Iron mine is slightly above (I built foundations) but late it seems. Any tips on reworking everything? Shut off power and move everything off into containers until the line is reworked? I can't go much bigger without spending all my time chopping down trees for biomass/biofuel (which is automated). I'm running 4 burners (not counting the HUB). I've unlocked coal but the nearest coal is like 600m away. I have to figure out how to get all the stuff to build over there. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Cut off the input and let the items get used up then delete and rebuild. Elevators can be mk1 you’ve just got to unlock the milestone first

4:24 : if you wouldn't have recolored all machines to be "all white", you also could easily see the difference between splitters and mergers by color: the splitter has one incoming belt and that single side is orange, while the merger has three incoming sides and they all are orange ... very easy to see even from a higher viewpoint in the distance :-)

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

You're right it would certainly be easier to tell the difference, but you can do the same here, the splitter has three grey sides to one "coloured" and the merger the opposite, like you pointed out :)

Yes, finally a Ytuber who isn't talking like he's Robin Williams and Bozo the Clown's love kid, overdosing on speed and jet fuel huffing. You also aren't taking the viewer on a tell and show off of their mega metropolis behemoth factory for 15 min, to only show us their tutorial for the last 5. Thank you for that. Just subbed. 👍😎 Starting up the game now, and mass delete my metel spaghetti cluster fubar.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck! I try to keep it condensed and full of information Maxthecatfish also has some great stuff!

Bad thing about that videos, that it's just not enough of them :D

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

/ NuclearJeday \ I’m working on it! Hahaha 😅☺️

Late comment, but I wish the game allowed to reduce the input buffer of a machine. If you think about it, logistically this setup is pretty much equivalent to a standard Factorio subfactory with single belt feeding multiple machines via inserters, but because inserters act rather smart, they don't buffer too many resources in the machines.

Whats the point of having the splitters and mergers above/below ground? I see no benefit, just have them directly next to the constructors.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

In case you want to walk around the factory at factory level. If you don't want to though it's fine, game is to be played the way you want to play.

This is not what I am looking for :( What if I have 10 inputs and 10 outputs? Source from 10 miner must be connected with 10 smelter and if in one overflow, sorce going to next smelter

@bladypl_7186

4 жыл бұрын

Good question

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

merge the 10 miners together on one line (if you have a fast enough conveyor) from their you can run them to the smelter line - note that smelters tend to consume less than a miner produces so you'd probably need 20 smelters, it would be best to do this in a few buses.

@djanek5017

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TotalXclipse What I wrote above is for example. It won't work for me. Production will not be effective. The case looks like this: Train station (10) -> smelters (100-300) "I don't know exactly, still under development) -> other buildings. So if I want 10 conveyors with a constant flow of material I have to divide it into 10 outputs but I have to do it so that the material from one input can come out from each of 10 outputs. I can seend screen about what I meen.Thank you for your answer.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

@@djanek5017 Send me a screen shot but I'm pretty sure the best way would be to use a load balancer for that situation, you just have to make sure that you're able to input enough items per minute for it to reach said outputs

video wasn’t really clear i kinda got the idea but making the videos straight forward easy to the point would really be nice. though still thank you for sharing this

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I'm constantly developing the channel, I'm hoping over the next few weeks the guides will become easier to understand as the editing improves but also as the website is released to run alongside these.

@yukoi8825

3 жыл бұрын

TotalXclipse i understand, i’m not trying to be rude in any way just as i see you are a big channel for tips on a complicated game. i suggest when showing off builds you can tell us how many items we are going to use, what we are going to make or what can we make with these designs, how it all actually works as in show us around the build where each item is leading to and where are the inputs and outputs. either way your videos are helpful and keep up the great work and keep on improving because i believe this channel will be the main source for tips on this game.

So generally spoken the Overflow Method and Load Balancing Method both eventually will be at 100% efficency. But the Overflow Method will have something you could consider a "boot time", as the efficency is gradually increasing after start up until 100% is reached. If this bothers you but you don't want to waste as much space as with proper load-balancing use the following compromise. In this example we want to split into 25% each. In the given setup it first splits into 2x 50%. The first 50% go into the first machine, the other 50% will be split half to the second machine. (Effectively 25% of main input) and machine Number 3 gets 12,5% and Number 4 12,5%. First Machine is Overflow (50% of total) Second Machine is Correct (25% of total) Third Machine is Underflow (12,5% of total) Fourth Machine is Underflow (12,5% of total) Now go to 7:45 in the Video. Split the first machine into 3! The 3rd Output going back on to the belt via a merger right after the splitter. Therefore the Setup would be S.M.S.M.S.M.S (S = Splitter, M = Merger) with a curved belt going from each Splitter to the following Merger, reconnecting to the belt. Result: First Machine is Overflow (33,33%) Second Machine is Underflow (22,22%) Third Machine is Underflow (14,82%) Fourth Machine is Overflow ( 29,63%) 2x Overflow and one close by correct is definetly better and therefore will reduce boot time. If you are further interested, read my Answer to this comment. If not, just split in 50% after the first two.

@user-ki8ye1nc8p

4 жыл бұрын

As a split in 25% bits is pretty easy anyways and I'm simply too lazy to calculate any more complex scenarios I just wanna point out something. In the 1/3 splits you have Overflows at the beginning and the End. It is thereby kind of like feeding the System from both ends. (First 33,33% and last one 29,63%) even tho this effect decreases over the total amount of machines used. If you want to go one Step further i would recommend the following setup: First Splitter in thirds Second Splitter in thirds Third Splitter in HALF. This results in: First Machine 33,33% (66,66% sent on) Second Machine 22,22% (44,44% sent on) Third Machine 22,22% (22,22% sent on) Fourth Machine 22,22% Think about it that way (when transfering to what ever split you are trying to attempt without giving away significant amounts of space): Overflow on first machine will always be. Overflow on last machine is preventable.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Tim a really interesting idea - thanks for sharing, however this would only work on the basic single line set up correct? Although I suppose you could place a splitter before and with the use of elevators take 2/3rds of the items off the first splitter and merge them back either on the next part of the line or the one after that. It’s something I’d like to try out!

@user-ki8ye1nc8p

4 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse TotalXclipse Yeah i was thinking about a basic single line setup specifically. To be honest, I haven't played the Game yet as I'm stuck on the other side of the World due to Covid, so I don't know what kind of splits / amount of machines are common in an actual setup. I primarily wanted to point out that you can use the 3rd Output of the Splitters in order to spread the items more evenly, reducing the "Boot Time". Thereby you keep the spacial advantages of the Overflow Method, whilst taking some of the benefit of load balancing. Your idea sounds great, but in order to make it a viable option you should keep in mind how much space 'proper' load balancing would cost and if its worth using the compromised version or not. Maybe we will find something like decision rules when and where to split, but especially with longer setups which have more machines it sounds like a good idea to split of 2/3 right away and refeed from the top a little later. Edit: You would need to use a splitter infront of the first splitter. Splitters have 3 outputs, one going to the machine and 2 beeing the 2/3 you want to refeed later leaves you with no output continuing the main feeding belt. Thats why I originally made the commenct of keeping the spacial requirements in mint. I was thinking about some way of displaying the actual benefit/increase in efficency during boot time and feel like I'm lacking the practical experience of the game regarding this. You could go thru it assuming you are having a 120/min feeding belt going into 4 machines each using 30 items per minute. Therefore production time would be 2 seconds/item for each machine. Then you can go and either measure or calculate the item input rate. (For each machine) When the first machine is on overflow, it's at 100% all the time. But the machines storage has to fill up first before the Situation changes. After that you are going to have a new Situation. The first machine takes 30 items/minute off the 120/minute feeding belt, leaving it as a 90/minute for the other 3 machines. Therefore we need to recalculate the split rates for this new situation until machine 2 is full and working at 100% efficency. Having done this for each stage and having calculated / experimented the total booting time you could compare the only 50% split and the 1/3 split method by their total booting time and overall efficency over time and therefore show exactly how much of a difference it makes. (Using a graph for this would make sense) I don't want to write a book about it right now, but as soon as I'm back to my gaming PC i'll probaply make a spreadsheet and some measurements providing an exact comparison.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

Firstly, I hope you’re okay where you are! I know the issues with being away from home and Covid-19 I’m returning to the UK today thankfully (taking as many precautions as possible not to increase the risk of catching/spreading the virus) As for the theory, it’s a really interesting take of the manifold design - the maths is a little much for me to comprehend but I think I might test your theory out and do a further video on this topic - it’s not something I’ve really considered but it would be interesting to see how well it runs. I look forward to the spreadsheet - if you’ll let me have a peek and maybe publish it on the discord and maybe the website as a tool for people to use ☺️

the logistics of load balancing start to get out of control when you factory grows. For instance i just finished over 100 refineries making copper sheets, load balancing that would be ridiculous.

@JakeSimmer

4 жыл бұрын

For more difficult recipes you could calculate if you want, but one sheet is make from 2 ingots, which is 20 / min. For 100 refineries you need at least 2000 input. if you dont have that many, how would you even use 100 refineries to make those sheets. AND... why do you need a bazillion sheets anyway... Sorry but you confuse me Brian, can you explain pls, would be apreciated.. Thanks!! Jake.

@nostrum6410

4 жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmer if you have 3 lines of 780 coming in you aren't gonna load balance that into 100 refineries. or even 1 to 33. you are just gonna put them in series and let them overlow to the refineries

@JakeSimmer

4 жыл бұрын

@@nostrum6410 haha, did not expect that many, LOL. Im still wrestling with oil recipes.. But why so many sheets... Is that to fill the next crazy factory? That should be it... ;-)

@nostrum6410

4 жыл бұрын

@@JakeSimmer i was probably using them to make ai limiters, circuit boards and rotors

@JakeSimmer

4 жыл бұрын

@@nostrum6410 I just found a small channel, interesting start, hope you like it... kzread.info/dash/bejne/paykm9N9YKrKYpc.html

You didnt show how to do that with Assemblers (e.g. the ones with the two Intakes).

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

So at the start of the video I do the first intake from the bottom like I show at the end and the other intake from the top. it's the same method used, just line the inputs with splitters, (place down the splitter first if it's easier in the middle of a foundation) then place the assembler 2 steps away from the splitters. If you're doing two manifolds from above they need to be stack 3 and 4 splitters high :)

So many issues and workarounds for my liking. I prefer the load balanced method. It uses less splitter/mergers and doesn’t take up much more room. The oveflow method doesn’t cope well after the second splitter/merger as the first machines get 1/3, the second set get 1/9th, the third set get 1/27th, the fourth set gets 1/81th and the fifth gets 1/243th which isn’t that good for keeping the machines running.

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

You're right but once the line fills up it should run as fast as a load balancer. (which we'll no doubt be covering in another guide at some point :D as for space usage it tends to be fine for the the first 1-9 splits but if you're running somthing like a 2-13 split it seems to get complicated quickly - infact a compact load balancer series might be a good shout! Thanks for the inspiration :D

Arg, take it from 3 away and it ll be very nice 😎

Takes sooo long to fully start up. I had several and it took forever.

@UNSCPILOT

3 жыл бұрын

But, once it's warmed up it's just fine, have a little coal powerplant with 24 reactors that are all bus/manifold fed, I just kept a couple of the reactors early in the lines off until all the rest saturated, then started up fully and our multiplayer server is 1800 megawatts richer. I dread how many 100s of slugs I will need to overclock it though, 4500 megawatts sounds great but so many slugs....

It was at this point I discovered how pathetic my factory truly is... Time to restart 😭

@lazycouch1

3 жыл бұрын

Nah bro it's cool. It's how we learn and excel. I think I restarted like 5 times. Tho I havent made it past tier 5 yet lol..

It doesn't work. I tried following this exactly, and all I get when I try to connect the lifts is "encroaching another's clearance," the lift turns red, and nothing happens.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like your splitter or merger is too close to the input/output

@Kitsudragon

3 жыл бұрын

Attempting to add the elevator causes it to appear in red, partially merged with the wall, and no amount of fiddling changes that.

@CDLHamma

3 жыл бұрын

Same issue, I cannot get it to connect - encroaching no matter what I do. :(

@jamesatkins5567

3 жыл бұрын

@@CDLHamma I'm only a week in and found I needed some tips and found this video. What worked for me was laying the splitters LAST. When I tried to put them first, I also was prevented from doing so by the collisions. Hope it works for you :)

the framerate on the shadow and the flashing of the lights on the machines is really throwing me off

Nice video but the framerate is so very painful to eyes. Very jerky, lack fluidity of movement.

Does he ever explain WHAT a manifold IS? What's the use case for them?

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

a manifold is a way to bus items to a factory and then split the items off using splitters. I Use them 90% of the time and I mention why within the first 2 minutes, they're much more efficient spacially compared to load balancers and also much easier to scale up :)

@agnidas5816

3 жыл бұрын

manifold is 'many-fold' like the pipes in your engine - there is a manifold directing air from a single intake to every piston. A fork in the road is a kind of traffic manifold.

..and I'm just wondering what I manifold is lol

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

The manifold is simply a conveyor line that splits items to inputs one after the other rather than a load balancer that splits items accord to ratio

Hey. Can you tell me if we can use mods in cracked version of satisfactory? (if so how?)

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

I've no idea unfortunately, sorry I can't help you out!

This game is really cool but needs something. Should have turrets you have to keep supplied with ammo or power and enemies that attack at night and you need to defend your factory.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be up for that but I know a lot of others aren't interested in the combat aspect of the game.

It useless without high-speed conveyers. It simply doesn't reach last constructors.

@TotalXclipse

Жыл бұрын

That depends on how large your manifold is

@AllExistence

Жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse 4 is already too much at belt lvl.3

Took ELI5 a little too far at the start there. Skip the first six minutes with the sentence : Merger combines three inputs into one output, splitter does the opposite.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right, perhaps I should employ you to rewrite my scripts 😅☺️

@InservioLetum

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse My boss does the same, and that in three languages lol. Always happy to help ;)

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@InservioLetum Good to know I'm not the only one :D

tips:play it at 1.25*

these videos could really use a script

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

90% of the videos do have a script

Ignoring bottlenecks again? :)

Ugh you last me at the splitter/merger difference explanation

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

the last splitter will split evenly between the two or three connected factories.

fuck thats how manifolds work? i thought just doing it like that would be inefficient but if you know the amount of resources coming in and build the right amount of machines OFCOURSE its gonna be efficient no matter what, my entire factory is load balanced cause i didnt know manifolds worked, im going to start a new factory in a couple days i think so im 100% gonna invest in awesomeshop and stuff, why spend hours using your small brian to do the numbers when it looks like shit and uses hella space?

@raptorpeep2622

3 жыл бұрын

thanks my man!

or u could just use mods like slow it down or Advanced Logistics

@TotalXclipse

4 жыл бұрын

LordStaszko i could buy these videos are for everyone and some people don’t like using mods ☺️

@LordStaszko

4 жыл бұрын

@@TotalXclipse ye they might be right to not to,but i think its not cheating to use mods on unfinished game, item throttle or adjustable internal buffer on each machine should be in game but its not

@nova31337

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordStaszko it's not about whether something is considered cheating or not, some people just don't want the headache of messing with mods.

@LordStaszko

3 жыл бұрын

@@nova31337 have you seen Satisfactory Mad Loader? This soft is so ez to use

Work more on the delivery of your info. If your tutorial was a factory, I'd say your conveyor belt is assembled like a conceited spaghetti. Great tips tho. Good effort. I can use this.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the suggestion - this was recorded whilst travelling and I had to do them in segments which made it so they didn't work particularly well together, the more recent guides give a better interpretation of my work in my mind :) but I'm also always working and improving on what we have. :)

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i cant listen any longer

i hate when "guides" contain rumbles. either don't call them guids, or maybe write yourself a script to go through.

While I do appreciate the effort going into these videos and explaining everything, what I absolutely HATE, not only in your videos, but many other explanatory videos, is the tendency of creators to shake the camera back and forth over the area they want to show off. That is absolutely obnoxious, and sickening in the literal sense of the word. Whenever I see this camera shake I get queasy as hell, and nearly want to throw up do to motion sickness. Please, please, please, do not do this, but rather use a red circle during editing to indicate what you want to show.

@TotalXclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Hey sorry you felt so sick watching that shake, I rarely do the shake these days as I’m able to do more with the game, prior I was on my laptop which meant my ability to edit was greatly reduced but now that I’m home I rarely If ever shake the Camera during videos