How to Build and Hang a Custom Screen Door | Ask This Old House

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Ask This Old House general contractor helps a homeowner build a custom screen door to fit her unique front entryway
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Time: 10-12 hours
Cost: $350
Skill Level: Difficult
Tools:
Miter saw [amzn.to/2UANdb3]
Table saw [amzn.to/2X4XoWZ]
Mortising machine [amzn.to/2R1wlrv]
Rubber mallet [amzn.to/2QZplvq]
Clamps [amzn.to/2QYMZIv]
Track saw [amzn.to/2UwH4wf]
Drill driver [amzn.to/3bHE1as]
Staple gun [amzn.to/3dFJOiu]
Utility knife [amzn.to/2UyQSpq]
Brad nailer [amzn.to/2RgnySX]
Shopping List:
5/4” x 8” x 8’ straight grain fir
Wood glue [amzn.to/2WXnJGj]
Victorian corner brackets [amzn.to/3dLQkUL]
Weather resistant screws [amzn.to/3azR8u1]
Screening [amzn.to/341UaEM]
Brad nails [amzn.to/2QYrCqy]
Surface mounted screen door hardware [amzn.to/3dMjraw]
Screen door compressors [amzn.to/2WXp003]
Resources:
To build the frame of the door, Tom used 5/4” x 8” x 8’ straight grain fir, which was provided by Baird Brothers Fine Hardwoods (www.bairdbrothers.com/). For exterior doors, Tom finds it very important to prevent the wood from warping in any direction, which is why he recommended using a combination of a half lap and a floating tenon for the joinery. To make those cuts, he used a Domino Joiner [amzn.to/2R1wlrv], which is manufactured by Festool (www.festoolusa.com/) and a Jobsite Saw Pro [amzn.to/2X4XoWZ], which is manufactured by SawStop (www.sawstop.com/).
To secure the boards together, Tom used wood glue by Gorilla Glue [amzn.to/2WXnJGj] (www.gorillatough.com/). To trim the door to size, Tom used a TS 55 circular saw [amzn.to/2UQkspp], which is also manufactured by Festool (www.festoolusa.com/).
The corner accent brackets and the antique hardware were either found or salvaged by the homeowner, but similar products can be found online, at hardware stores, at specialty woodworking shops, or at antique sales/salvage yards. The hinges and the screen door compressor can both be bought at home centers. In this case, Tom used heavy duty screen door hardware to handle the weight of the large door, and two compressors on the top and bottom of the door to control the swing of the heavy door and to ensure it closed tightly.
The screening material they used for the door can be found at any home center. Tom recommends using clamps to slightly bow the door during the installation of the screen to ensure a tight fit. To secure the trim pieces over the screen, Tom used a 20V Max Cordless Brad nailer [amzn.to/2RgnySX], which is manufactured by Dewalt (www.dewalt.com/).
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  • @tomarnold5426
    @tomarnold54264 жыл бұрын

    The cut offs to cover the screen, the bending the door to tension the screen, screwing the corner pieces for easy removal and paint. The list goes on for for smart and efficient ways that Tommy gets it done. So Awesome!!!

  • @rayleder3705
    @rayleder37054 жыл бұрын

    I never get tired of Tommy work his magic. He's the best!

  • @hungryarch7319

    @hungryarch7319

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some one should wrap Tommy in bubble wrap. The man's a national treasure.

  • @taoufix6915

    @taoufix6915

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always call him the Bob Ross of carpentry.

  • @ForyeaHLM

    @ForyeaHLM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes he’s a miracle worker he’s the only guy I know who can cakes a screen door that fits any size door I love his work.

  • @tomf9292
    @tomf9292 Жыл бұрын

    To say Tommy is a master craftsman is an understatement. This man can build anything WOW. It also helps to have some of the best tools made!

  • @djstl100
    @djstl1004 жыл бұрын

    Custom door was gonna be too expensive, so I had This Old House and Tom Silva come over..to save money 🤣.....

  • @clintonlyle7922

    @clintonlyle7922

    4 жыл бұрын

    djstl100 lol yep, that’s pretty much it!

  • @shindanu

    @shindanu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, seriously.

  • @poland_stronk3044

    @poland_stronk3044

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do they ship Tom Silva overseas?

  • @jeffmiller3850

    @jeffmiller3850

    4 жыл бұрын

    And he brought about $6000 worth of Festool and SawStop tools with him.

  • @watcherofwatchers

    @watcherofwatchers

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffmiller3850 Predictable comment. Also irrelevant.

  • @tqdam
    @tqdam4 жыл бұрын

    I am always impressed by how easy Tommy makes it look. With the right tools and A LOT of knowledge, projects like this can be fun.

  • @jej3451

    @jej3451

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doing any project with Tommy would be fun.

  • @tqdam

    @tqdam

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jej3451 That would be awesome. I ran into the same problem with my back door. It's 10 feet and the screen doors they sell at HD are only for 8ft.

  • @johnpossum556

    @johnpossum556

    4 жыл бұрын

    @tuan: That's the benefit of experience, a thousand dollar saw and then even more experience. Tommy is such an experienced beast he makes it all look like cake walk.

  • @tqdam

    @tqdam

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnpossum556 As someone once told me. It's not the arrows. It's the Indian shooting the arrow. Put a thousand dollar saw in front of me and I will still create junk. The keyword in your statement is "experience". :) All in all, I enjoy watching these guys do their craft. The chemistry is really good with all of them as well. It's a joy to watch and learn from them all the time! Keep it up!

  • @Super_overland

    @Super_overland

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like a $1500 saw.

  • @RunningCordoroy
    @RunningCordoroy4 жыл бұрын

    Man, this was a feel good video. I can't believe the level of expertise Tommy has. What a role model and inspiration!

  • @dalebabbitt6185
    @dalebabbitt61854 жыл бұрын

    OUTSTANDING!!! Nothing else needs to be said!!

  • @AJ-nr3vk
    @AJ-nr3vk3 жыл бұрын

    Tommy is the King of Construction. Contractors today would be lucky to even come remotely close to how Tommy does this trade.

  • @santaclaus179
    @santaclaus1793 жыл бұрын

    nice to see this prof doing his job and explaining all the special tips , very interesting

  • @brucehanover890
    @brucehanover8903 жыл бұрын

    I do all this stuff, make anything and rarely watch the way others do it but wanted to find a few ideas for the doors I'm going to make for my place. I didn't even know you existed til today. Guess I don't get out much (1.67M subs...+1) I couldn't keep the grin off my face watching you and your "student" make this door. Calm cool and collected, and very nicely done. I've learned a few things as well and particularly like the mortise machine. Didn't even know one like that existed. Been a biscuit joiner dude for years but I gotta get me one of those. Such a good choice for a project like this! Kudos to you in all areas!

  • @davidsgarage44
    @davidsgarage4411 ай бұрын

    My pop had an entire woodshop and was good like Tom wasn't anything he couldn't build I'm building some simple screen doors for a garage and watching this is the closest I can get to what my pop would of showed me if he was still alive.Awesome craftsmanship

  • @theJonnymac
    @theJonnymac4 жыл бұрын

    these videos are getting better and better! Doesn’t feel as scripted and boring like regular TV stuff. Keep up the good work!

  • @supremelawfirm
    @supremelawfirm4 жыл бұрын

    Tommy, You are THE BEST! Keep up the good work. And, hope all is well with you and yours. Please be safe / stay safe!

  • @supremelawfirm

    @supremelawfirm

    4 жыл бұрын

    I omitted one key word above: MAGNIFICENT!

  • @o.h.w.6638
    @o.h.w.66383 жыл бұрын

    This Old House has a million dollars in tools. And I’m over here with a Japanese saw I got on sale at Woodcraft as my only saw trying to build a door 🤣

  • @Skammerd
    @Skammerd4 жыл бұрын

    That was pretty magnificent. So fitting to the home.

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er4 жыл бұрын

    Probably my favorite wood related episode ever.

  • @wobblytreehouse
    @wobblytreehouse Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love when your customer says they looked at having one made, but it was too expensive. So I uh, called you instead...

  • @-gina1114
    @-gina11144 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tommy! The screen door is gorgeous!

  • @douglasgeiger7591
    @douglasgeiger7591 Жыл бұрын

    I give props to Laura! So sweet.

  • @Flippersflops
    @Flippersflops3 жыл бұрын

    Tommy is such a humble master.

  • @larrymoore6640
    @larrymoore66404 жыл бұрын

    Tommy makes it look so simple to do. They was a lot of little things that made it look so good.

  • @electricalron
    @electricalron4 жыл бұрын

    The list is a mile long of the things I've learned from Tom Silva. :D

  • @deanslegos1990
    @deanslegos19904 жыл бұрын

    In 100 years, that screen door will sell for millions. Antique one of a kind screen door built by Tom Silva lol.

  • @santaclaus179
    @santaclaus179 Жыл бұрын

    these videos always make me happy watching , very fine explanation

  • @listerine-pr5lt
    @listerine-pr5lt4 жыл бұрын

    It is amazing how vast majority of home owner have extensive talent and ability to build their own project by themselves or is it me who imagine it?

  • @LongHuII
    @LongHuII4 жыл бұрын

    awesome job genius craftsmanship.

  • @kiwdwks
    @kiwdwks4 жыл бұрын

    Always learn something from your videos! Thanks!

  • @MichaelSmith-nk4yq
    @MichaelSmith-nk4yq4 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed watching this video and I learned lots. Thanks for doing this. 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @BradThePitts
    @BradThePitts4 жыл бұрын

    7:11 (Pause it) anybody else notice how she painted the little dots on the railing dowels yellow, as well as the window sill in the background? DETAILS

  • @kanakamaoli9642
    @kanakamaoli96423 жыл бұрын

    That was pretty cool, great work Tommy.

  • @johanesmuylargo
    @johanesmuylargo4 жыл бұрын

    Laura seems like a nice person with the kind of outward personality that you just want to be around! And of course there's my man Tommy. Good stuff here!

  • @MasterChief-sl9ro
    @MasterChief-sl9ro4 жыл бұрын

    I give her effort. She got in there and did the work..And knows some new things...

  • @craneoperator4
    @craneoperator44 жыл бұрын

    awesome show..no wonder it's been on for 40 years

  • @dwolfer
    @dwolfer4 жыл бұрын

    Really well done Tom!

  • @JoseHernandez-tc1kl
    @JoseHernandez-tc1kl4 жыл бұрын

    Wow that looks beautiful

  • @ernestcashion4462
    @ernestcashion446210 ай бұрын

    Love how she gets more confident as they go along he's a really good teacher.

  • @santaclaus179
    @santaclaus1793 жыл бұрын

    very good tip he made the door a little bit bigger so if the frame of the house is not perfect than he can fit the door , perfect

  • @karl_alan
    @karl_alan4 жыл бұрын

    S4S = surfaced all 4 sides. Just means it has gone across the planer/jointer on all sides to ensure flat/square and remove mill marks, not usually sanded.

  • @poeticthoughts06

    @poeticthoughts06

    4 жыл бұрын

    ok.

  • @jimmeh213

    @jimmeh213

    4 жыл бұрын

    In Australia we call it DAR which means Dressed All Round.

  • @watcherofwatchers

    @watcherofwatchers

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unnecessarily pedantic. It doesn't matter in this context.

  • @rifke
    @rifke4 жыл бұрын

    Nobody better than Tommy!

  • @tonythetiger9839
    @tonythetiger98394 жыл бұрын

    Did you guys get a new camera? video quality is great, props to the camera crew.

  • @nickbailey202

    @nickbailey202

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed this too. Looks like they're using lens filters. It's beautiful.

  • @jesuswasacarpenter
    @jesuswasacarpenter3 жыл бұрын

    I just love this channel!

  • @dennismeyers2008
    @dennismeyers20084 жыл бұрын

    9:29 GENIUS!

  • @bretkowitz5928
    @bretkowitz59284 жыл бұрын

    I like it when he told her that it was a big one right off the bat

  • @Doug_Dimmadome1833
    @Doug_Dimmadome18333 жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking about doing something like this on a modern house. I have French doors with a sliding screen door leading out into our back yard. the screen door is pretty bent up from dogs running into it so I was thinking of ways I can replace it and what I can replace it with. We could easily go with another slider but I am not sure that is the route we want to take.

  • @satansladys2084
    @satansladys20842 жыл бұрын

    Tommy is a legend.

  • @dalesworld1308
    @dalesworld13084 жыл бұрын

    Back in the 70s I had to putty and paint about 30 storm windows and rescreen the accompanying screen frames for a house while the customer was away on vacation. Scrape everything down, prime, some new glass, putty, two coats of enamel, all new copper screening and screen molding all painted BEFORE the screens were stapled on (c'mon Tom - should have painted all that woodwoork before you installed the screens). Anyway I come back to the house a few months later and see the homeowner had a window replacement company show up and sell them new vinyl windows. I asked where the windows and screens went and they said they all went into a dumpster.

  • @sharryholmes2100

    @sharryholmes2100

    4 жыл бұрын

    OMG ! That’s heart breaking 😖

  • @suzum.9713

    @suzum.9713

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ohhhhh. Such a bummer! FRUSTRATING!

  • @shanesmaineshop
    @shanesmaineshop3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful looking door.

  • @shortleg79able
    @shortleg79able4 жыл бұрын

    “Oh you’ve done some projects. Here use my $4000 worth of Festool stuff. I’ve done some projects too”

  • @watcherofwatchers

    @watcherofwatchers

    4 жыл бұрын

    So, what dollar amount of tools is acceptable?

  • @evanparker

    @evanparker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@watcherofwatchers they should seriously just do it with like walmart tools. if they could do it with them, i am sure everyone would feel like it was more accessible.

  • @itomba

    @itomba

    4 жыл бұрын

    My neighbor has that Domino joiner and it is super sweet.

  • @rickrudd

    @rickrudd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@watcherofwatchers I will point out that the Domino in particular is not going to be a tool that the crowd that watches this is likely to have. It's insanely expensive. He should have shown a dowel jig or half lap mortises, etc. Something the Ave Joe could do with average tools.

  • @daveklein2826

    @daveklein2826

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rickrudd No, he had a festool so why would he use something else

  • @xCoolBreezex
    @xCoolBreezex4 жыл бұрын

    Tommy’s the man. Nice video

  • @evanprovisor6004
    @evanprovisor60042 жыл бұрын

    Excellent workmanship, as always. My only criticism is that it is going to be difficult to rescreen this door. Removing the overlying wood strips without damaging them is likely to be challenging as they are nailed in place. I would have installed them with stainless steel screws.

  • @Silmerano

    @Silmerano

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd use magnetic strips. Totally seamless and easy to remove.

  • @billmoran935
    @billmoran935 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome job

  • @buildmotion1426
    @buildmotion14264 жыл бұрын

    Makes me want to build one just because.

  • @markowalski1
    @markowalski12 жыл бұрын

    So you have to remove the cutoffs when you need to replace the screen?

  • @kenborne8215
    @kenborne82154 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful door!!!

  • @cjkent3300
    @cjkent33004 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tommy...

  • @ratipati2007
    @ratipati20074 жыл бұрын

    I noticed staples are put at the edge of recess. This gives a small holding area for the screen after trimming. Better way is put staples in the half way middle of the recess.

  • @poeticthoughts06
    @poeticthoughts064 жыл бұрын

    Tommy is the man!!!!

  • @marksteven3534
    @marksteven35344 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Tommy could craft up some good quality pine boxes for us NY'ers by next week.

  • @NELSONandWIGGLES
    @NELSONandWIGGLES9 ай бұрын

    Love it!

  • @WhatIsKenDoing
    @WhatIsKenDoing4 жыл бұрын

    Seriously? You installed the screen before finish? That ought to be fun.

  • @spydirty2530

    @spydirty2530

    4 жыл бұрын

    She’s getting charcoal paint to match the screen

  • @icurt06
    @icurt064 жыл бұрын

    That was really beautiful. A father teaching his daughter how to build a door for her house.

  • @wkbeats
    @wkbeats4 жыл бұрын

    Tom Silva is just on a whole nutha level

  • @greysondeane4000
    @greysondeane40003 жыл бұрын

    What was used to attach the antique knobs without a mortise inside?

  • @japan-e9j
    @japan-e9j4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome.

  • @pindivloger7001
    @pindivloger70014 жыл бұрын

    Impressive Work

  • @rogerNOmore
    @rogerNOmore4 жыл бұрын

    I made one and it looks like Homer Simpson's spice rack.

  • @shalashaskasaiz

    @shalashaskasaiz

    4 жыл бұрын

    D'OH !

  • @marsmediapro

    @marsmediapro

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see that!

  • @jeffadams9805
    @jeffadams98053 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @bobmech5006
    @bobmech5006 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a how to video on building swinging screen doors for French doors?

  • @SteveK139
    @SteveK139 Жыл бұрын

    That was awesome! When can Tommy come to my house and help me? Got to warn you, I'm not as cute as this homeowner.

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B4 жыл бұрын

    Love all the fancy new Festools (sponsored) that he uses, but man that staple gun he uses looks aged!

  • @MsIlovemusic07
    @MsIlovemusic074 жыл бұрын

    Is there a vid that talks about soil erosion under a concrete sidewalk/walkway? The solid on one side is disappearing. Which is the side where we park our cars so there’s not much room to add soil.

  • @maksiodzidek1
    @maksiodzidek14 жыл бұрын

    Bravo!

  • @studypartner9643
    @studypartner96434 жыл бұрын

    Me nailed it. My version looks like tin hut in a village

  • @Waltkat
    @Waltkat4 жыл бұрын

    Thinking of making my own screen door too. Can I use a biscuits instead of that mortise and tendon? My door will be a standard 36" wide.

  • @johnpossum556

    @johnpossum556

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sure you can. That M&T is just copying the more popular double dowel joint anyways.

  • @rogersperlbaum807
    @rogersperlbaum8074 жыл бұрын

    Where is the jig used at 3:25?

  • @irishvoyageur
    @irishvoyageur3 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. Wouldn't you want to finish/paint the door before adding the screen?

  • @ImALefty08

    @ImALefty08

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should, but he didn't have the whole day to wait for the paint to dry.

  • @l3ender15
    @l3ender154 жыл бұрын

    I think S4S is surfaced 4 sides (not sanded).

  • @rickjohnson1632
    @rickjohnson16324 жыл бұрын

    Tommy , your a beast 👍👍

  • @nickbailey202
    @nickbailey2024 жыл бұрын

    As much as I love Tom and TOH, I don't know if the Festool Domino is within reach of most homeowners. Even those do who have tools wouldn't like have this.

  • @sarahconners9217

    @sarahconners9217

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was my thought, too, but I know there are lots of ways to make similar tenon joints. Even if you opted for a series of wooden dowels, I expect that with the lap joint, you're really still have a strong join. After all, people have been making tenons for ages before Festool came around. Another suggestion is to see if your area has a woodworkers club or guild. The one in my area has a shop you can use on weekends, full of tools that a starting woodworker may not have yet collected.

  • @marsmediapro

    @marsmediapro

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are several other more affordable doweling joiners for those of us who might only use it a few times each year.

  • @daveklein2826

    @daveklein2826

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then use another system of joinery

  • @pavelow235
    @pavelow2354 жыл бұрын

    Is this the same custom screen door you built on a very early episode of the late show with David letterman?

  • @Elon_Trump
    @Elon_Trump4 жыл бұрын

    You can tell she wanted to use that hammer but Tommy was all like nah just hand me those dowels

  • @juliosantos9289
    @juliosantos92894 жыл бұрын

    You can tell she's very happy with the door! I wonder if the show charges these guys for anything?

  • @definitelynotacop621

    @definitelynotacop621

    3 жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere that the homeowner does pay for materials. The hosts essentially just provide the knowledge.

  • @ssl3546
    @ssl35464 жыл бұрын

    Would have been a lot easier to paint before putting the screen in. Understand Tommy's time on site is limited but could have used a fast-drying primer and paint like Zinnser shellac and SW Emerald Urethane. Also very annoying that it didn't show how he marked the door against an opening that was covered up by the door, could have saved time elsewhere like not showing how to use the Domino tool - if you have one you know how to use it.

  • @kennymartin379
    @kennymartin3794 жыл бұрын

    How thick is the wood

  • @ortegaalex13
    @ortegaalex13Ай бұрын

    I wish he could make a door for me :( BEAUTIFUL!!!

  • @jarodmorris4408
    @jarodmorris4408 Жыл бұрын

    I thought S4S was surfaced 4 sides, not sanded 4 sides. Am I wrong?

  • @TheHandystanley
    @TheHandystanley4 жыл бұрын

    Was really hoping to see how you mortised the hinges into the door jamb...dang. However, enjoyed watching the door build; although that is not why I watched the video.

  • @harrydilanian9528
    @harrydilanian95284 жыл бұрын

    YOUR A MASTER

  • @brettdillon3050
    @brettdillon30502 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see how to build one with a homeowner tools. Wasn’t that her initial goal? Great work, but not really helpful for the average homeowners wanting to make one themselves.

  • @Atr42Greasemonkey
    @Atr42Greasemonkey4 жыл бұрын

    Tommy is my favorite

  • @austincraft327
    @austincraft3273 жыл бұрын

    pro tip central :)

  • @robertgullickson8758
    @robertgullickson87584 жыл бұрын

    How would you finish that after the screen material and hardware are installed? Did I miss that?

  • @tdel73
    @tdel734 жыл бұрын

    Hi this old house

  • @iamzombie
    @iamzombie4 жыл бұрын

    Should they have stained or painted the door before putting the screen in?

  • @cdjhyoung

    @cdjhyoung

    4 жыл бұрын

    They'll end up taking off the trim pieces and masking the screen before painting.

  • @fantasma1decostarica499
    @fantasma1decostarica4994 жыл бұрын

    El mejor

  • @molinny
    @molinny2 жыл бұрын

    sorry, but what happened to seal or prime?

  • @JacobHesketh
    @JacobHesketh4 жыл бұрын

    Another great Tommy project, the guy is a legend. The set up he has with the two mft tables and Festool kapex mitre saw with extensions would cost $7,470.40 to buy new... in New Zealand dollars 🇳🇿

  • @ThePlayerToBeNamedLater

    @ThePlayerToBeNamedLater

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep....how to build stuff if you can afford the Festool setup. I'd be more impressed if he did it with an off the shelf Dewalt Makita or even Harbor Freight setup.

  • @kyakarrenamiyaan
    @kyakarrenamiyaan4 жыл бұрын

    I strive to be as cool and suave as tom. Im only 30 years old.

  • @dust09100
    @dust091004 жыл бұрын

    Anybody notice something moving in the window when she makes her first cut with the saw

  • @bastiononly1245
    @bastiononly12454 жыл бұрын

    Tom Silva has probably forgotten more things about home repair and renovations than most people will ever learn in their lifetime.

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