React Native doesn't use a bridge anymore. In its new architecture (which has been released last year), there is a concept of an intermediary called a "JSI" (JavaScript Interface) that allows the native layer to directly talk to the JS layer (running on the optimized JS engine Hermes) unlike the previous architecture where the Bridge in the middle sent data over the threads serialized as JSON. It also has Fabric (newer && faster renderer) and also turbo modules to load native modules on demand.

@Dev-Siri

11 ай бұрын

​@@Rex88282 bruh I don't even use React Native nor did I say if its better than other solutions. I just mentioned about the update that removed the old slow bridge with the faster JSI.

@ko-Daegu

11 ай бұрын

@@Dev-Siriso there’s still a bridge just a faster one ? I don’t see compiled to native (unlike the misleading name)

@Dev-Siri

11 ай бұрын

​@@ko-Daegu well yes, but actually, no. The bridge was just a communication medium, think of it like sending an HTTP request over-the-wire. Previously there were 2 threads and 1 Tree: The main thread is basically just the Native Component layer that React Native renders with the components it gets from the JavaScript thread. There is also a seperate "tree" called the Shadow Tree which is responsible for calculating some dimensions or other stuff needed by the Main Thread to paint the UI to the screen. (This is basically the Virtual DOM that React uses although maybe slightly diff than what I said here). The JS thread runs a engine to execute the JavaScript bundle and then start sending responses. In RN you commonly use the or components, those are actually getting sent to the main thread as JSON through the bridge which get rendered thereafter (Previously used JS core, but since it needed to be shipped with Android since JS core is only available by default on iOS, they created a new engine called Hermes which consumes less memory, runs faster, and also helps in startup time) Now, theres no more of that bridge thing. We have the JS engine like before (now most of the time is Hermes) and the code written in TypeScript (mentioning TS specifically here because as far as I know, they do use the types). The new JSI (written in C++) holds reference to JavaScript event handlers and stuff with the types that I previously (I don't remember exactly how so I may be slightly wrong here but types are definitely used). Think of the new JavaScript interface like importing functions from a module. Then when something happens on the native side, the JSI executes the JavaScript it holds reference to for that particular element, and Ta-Da, we have the previous working stuff without the overhead of the bridge. Turbo modules are just a seperate feature RN added to reduce app startup time even further with on-demand loading. + The Fabric is also just a better & faster renderer than the one it used before.

@abdulmalikayorinde8657

11 ай бұрын

You go explain tire 😂

@DamianLesiuk

11 ай бұрын

Hermes is not optimized. It does not contain jit, it doesn't execute native code at all, everything is interpreted where code flutter executes is compiled to native binary

Basically, the higher up you go, you lose more performance and hardware access, but it gets easier

@spidertyler

11 ай бұрын

I would argue javascript is harder than kotlin/java. Javascript is a real piece of shit.

@feykroTV

11 ай бұрын

Unless you have a ton of web dev experience, I’d wager Flutter is easier to approach than Ionic+Angular

@ShortFilmVD

11 ай бұрын

You also lose access to native components, I remember the dark days of writing slide out menus in Cordova.... Flutter FTW

@el_primer_y_el_ultimo_caiman

11 ай бұрын

revelatory 🤯🤯 i am so mind-blown with this incredible insight!

@qwertykeyboard5901

6 ай бұрын

It's the old J2ME days again.

Kotlin multiplatform is also a really great thing, that has a lot of potential i think. I've tried it myself (I'm android dev). And I am very impressed with this. I also tried react native in the past and the performance was really horrible back then (although maybe they have improved it over these few years)

@LaBoots

10 ай бұрын

Yup it’s awesome

Flutter is mimicking the ui, not actually native.

@caglarkullu9275

5 ай бұрын

Flutter compiles to native and uses method channels

KMP will be a game changer

I use Java for mobile dev (Android)

@SYEDHAMZAALI-lb5fm

11 ай бұрын

Us bro us😂❤

@alkadoHs

11 ай бұрын

💀

@AlphaGamingWorld

11 ай бұрын

Move on dude. Kotlin is the future

@SYEDHAMZAALI-lb5fm

11 ай бұрын

@@AlphaGamingWorld bro Kotlin is future in android only can u make APIs through Kotlin ?but u can make them in JAVA

@nesletchimaew9209

10 ай бұрын

If you're learning kotlin, move directly to jetpack compose. I know the tutorials on the internet are bad, in some cases absolutely useless, but with some digging you can do it

You forgot .NET MAUI.

Hey Lewis, love your videos. Could you make a video on the different people behind creating an app and what the process looks like? Both the people on the business and tech side.

@CodingWithLewis

11 ай бұрын

I think this is a great idea!

It's disappointing that you didn't mention MAUI.

@welcometochristown

11 ай бұрын

Yea I agree, as a .NET developer who never did a lot of android programming in java, Maui has been very enjoyable to use and let me actually develop my app straight away. A few learning curves to navigate but overall I have been very impressed.

@zipur3364

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for telling me about this

@apexashwin

11 ай бұрын

You should be disappointed on Microsoft for introducing a new framework and killing the existing one haha, .NET ecosystem is a joke

@cernunox

11 ай бұрын

I agree, develop in MAUI has been a great experience so far, specially Blazor Hybrid 🎉

For Android a Flutter is a good option, and for IOS, therapy would be ideal

@rswierczynski

11 ай бұрын

Swift is amazing

@JuanGarcia-qd8ig

11 ай бұрын

@@rswierczynski Yeah I guess if you haye yourself you could find it amazing

@justafreak15able

11 ай бұрын

If you’re going to use two frameworks for android and ios then better write native apps

@JuanGarcia-qd8ig

11 ай бұрын

@@justafreak15able whoosh I guess

FLUTTER IS THE WAY. CHANGE MY MIND

@iDoComputers

9 ай бұрын

the UI is ⭐️ garbage ⭐️

@__Rizzler__

8 ай бұрын

@@iDoComputers you forget a thousand things a day. make sure this is one of them

There is also Compose Multiplatform, single codebase in Kotlin, Compose is great

Cordova is actually EOL… lol

@ffslayers

11 ай бұрын

🤔what about capacitor ?

If you wanted to build an application that had a mobile app and a website, what backend would you use?

@hiwaforlife

11 ай бұрын

Django

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

Flutter can do web, windows, mac, iOS, android, and linux from one code base. So that’s pretty cool. You could also use react native for web. That can turn your phone apps into a website with some drawbacks. I like dart so I pick flutter. If you like js more then react native for web is not a bad option. Whatever gets the job done 👍

@alfagroupkz

11 ай бұрын

It's always a question about how complex you want your app to be. If you want an app for the public with high traffic, then you better go for some low-level programming languages and its framework, such as Java -> Spring Boot. If you want a simpler and fast solution, then go for Go Language... It depends on a situation

@bavidlynx3409

11 ай бұрын

Django would be great but tbh any restful backend would work. Like node or django or fast api or literally anything. Performance wise you would have to compare but i know django so i would use that over anything else at least in the prototypical stages

@rgpflash7474

11 ай бұрын

I would use Rust for backend, for performance, insane safety...

Great video!! Could you make the video but for desktop gui

React native is very good and works quite good if you don't need something very hardware connected. Development is fast.

The day developers stop making native apps is the day we'll forget about actual performance. Fuck webapps :)

@rgpflash7474

11 ай бұрын

Yes Native is always the best choice in my view

@nocturn9x

11 ай бұрын

@@rgpflash7474 Agreed

Ionic + Capacitor

What about android studio? It supports java and kotlin

Uhh Kotlin apps can compile to ios via KMM remember?

That “AHHH” at the beginning was truly beautiful💀

What about .Net Maui?

I’ve tried Flutter but just don’t love it as much as React/React Native. Wish I did because dependencies in RN are a pain

I guess people who don't know c++ and java have to jump through a whole lot of hoops.

An even higher level of abstraction for mobile apps is unity, but it's pretty limited outside of gamedev

Since Flutter builds to native code, I wonder if there’s a real argument for not picking it up and going to react or ionic instead. Especially Ionic lol

@justafreak15able

11 ай бұрын

Flutter code looks like a brain aneurism😂

This Guy content is Gold❤

.NET MAUI ❤

@kpkent1983

11 ай бұрын

Throw in that blazor spice

React native & ionic what's the diff tho ?! Thought both are similar

Flutter is ❤

@abdultheseekerofknowledge4453

11 ай бұрын

REACT NATIVE > flutter

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

​@@abdultheseekerofknowledge4453react is Dead never close to flutter

@VictorMartins239

11 ай бұрын

flutter is a nested hell

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

@@VictorMartins239 one that I love to work with 😅 Also… html 😐

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

@@VictorMartins239 flutter is Far better than react but all of them are just tools to solve a particular problem

Maui... you can create even a webapp with mobile app...

What about .Net MAUI

@bo_0ss

11 ай бұрын

Yep, I asked the same

flutter or react native which one should i go in the case of future jobs and salary

Lewis also: why you should not build mobile applications. 😅

personnally i use C# for almost everything 😅 from Web API to mobile app, desktop app game etc

Why did you not mention Java for Android it's interoperable with Kotlin and C++?

Ionic is using capacitor now. Its got more access

I guess you’ve never heard of Delphi.

I guess he didn't mention Xamarin. I'm Kotlin developer tho

Interesting

Lewis, ha u doin buddy?👋🏻🇮🇹

Java ❤

I want to build something that can work on Windows and Android, what frontend stack would you recommend?

@romarmacaraeg661

11 ай бұрын

It wasn't mentioned in the video, but in addition to android and ios, Flutter can also build web, windows, linux, and osx frontend apps. Keep in mind that not all flutter package works on all platforms

@hydranooni

11 ай бұрын

​@@romarmacaraeg661please don't recommend Flutter for the web...a horrible idea, I personally would Flutter only for mobile apps

ok i am a web developer and if i have to build app i will make it in react native it will hardly matter

Where's C# MAUI? You didn't know?

Qt framework + C++ is the way to go

Flutter is above react native Is terms of “abstraction” react native creates actual native elements of the screen which is why you still have to consider platform differences. Like shadows on iOS vs elevation on android. Flutter DOES NOT compile to native binaries? It compiles the dart code to a binary and the UI is all rendered on a single canvas, which is much better than a web view but it’s very much not native.

@kyuss789

11 ай бұрын

@@Rex88282 I don’t know about advantages. It’s just a different way of rendering UI

@dealloc

11 ай бұрын

@@Rex88282I'd argue it has a ton of negative impact on UX across platforms. You shouldn't write one-size-fits-all native apps. You should consider how accessibility and UX works on either platform to keep consistent with the ecosystem and user expectations. Another downside of Flutter is that your widgets won't not be updated with the OS and can end up with the "Old Windows"-type issue, where it uses UI that does not conform to changes in a new OS release-and how do you then consider supporting older and new versions at the same time?

How about Java for android?

Flutterflow

Last sentence is well said

Flutter is great

.NeT MAUI

Whenever I see React Native or Web wrapper apps: 🤢

@mirjalol49

11 ай бұрын

whyyy?

@Lucky5111

11 ай бұрын

@@mirjalol49 slow as shit.

@Rikonardo

11 ай бұрын

​@@mirjalol49 complex react native apps tends to be slow because of JavaScript, and web-based apps in addition to being slow also have poor integration with the OS

@rakeshchowdhury202

11 ай бұрын

​@@mirjalol49cause bloatware

@smortlogician9258

11 ай бұрын

@@mirjalol49 slow

Kivy , kivyMD is also great 😸 python ❤

Flutter doesn't compile to native. lmao

What about MAUI?

Maui

Doesn't anyone know here , that compose multi-platform with kmm is now in production.

@rgpflash7474

11 ай бұрын

Yes 👍

I have a misunderstanding (which platform to create a app with official not third party way like google or something else

How about kmm ?

Wait, ThereIsNoGame logo?

replace 'cordova' with 'capacitor' now! Cordova has now become old

this is an iceberg

Kotlin multi platform

Kotlin Multiplatform ❤

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Compose multiplatform.

Xamarin looks death ☠️

I use kivy and kivymd

that kotlin logo is dead

flutter is my choice

Dont forget Maui

excellent detailed information

hang on... Cordova is still a thing?? I thought that got shut down years ago?!

And MAUI ;)

Java

You forgot java baby. And half cooked information. Those cross platform have a lot of shortcomings.

Where's java

flutter is the Best

@otimist

11 ай бұрын

Native Kotlin is the Best

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

​@@otimistno flutter is the best and simple one code in everywhere

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

@@otimistflutter is a good second

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

@@shlokbhakta2893 there s no much different between flutter a and native like kotlin Android , flutter performance is not different from kotlin ,flutter very simple and fast to develop a app

@otimist

11 ай бұрын

@@vickoalan With Jetpack Compose you can achieve this too, as well as having greater control over the capabilities of the OS and hardware.

.net Maui?

native is still better at performance

Does Python fall anywhere in that stack?

@spidertyler

11 ай бұрын

Lookup Kivy

@petrlaskevic1948

11 ай бұрын

no, not really. Theres kivy, but it is not well supported

@AzeUnkn0wn

10 ай бұрын

I'm a python dev, and went to flutter. Dart is easy to learn. I made a flutter app and REST API server with dart in 2 months. 😁

I love flutter, but with the goal of getting a job making mobile apps I think I might have to switch to something else… react native??????

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

If you want a job, react native is great! Flutter jobs just don’t pay as well 😢

@AlphaGamingWorld

11 ай бұрын

​@@shlokbhakta2893wht about native development.

And there is .Net MAUI

I use AI , I basically talk in English I say don't do this and do that if you don't I will turn off the power 😏

Dotnet MAUI is best 🎉

How do i not use java?

@AlphaGamingWorld

11 ай бұрын

Stop development

@DreadHalfling9

11 ай бұрын

@@AlphaGamingWorld dammit

Xamarin

Easy tell ios users to go to North Korea. After all only such people would use such a device.

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

You can’t deny that iOS users are real and you have to cater toward them when building an app lol. You leave soo much money on the table when not making an iOS app. All I’m saying is it’s a good idea - message sent from iPhone 😅

@AlphaGamingWorld

11 ай бұрын

​@@shlokbhakta2893ahh no. When comes to money it's directly proportional to demand. As android is most demanded you will find more users hence more ad impressions and more in-app purchase. Hence money is a no problem.

Flutter is your uncle

kotlin multiplatform

İ use Flutter

English please );

Whenever I see flutter syntax 🤢

Kotlin Multiplatform Compose

@rgpflash7474

11 ай бұрын

👍

So should i start with flutter or swift??

@krzysztofmiarecki1289

11 ай бұрын

swift

Android also Java

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

That’s true but Java makes me sad lol public static void main(String[] args)

@Rippersshow

11 ай бұрын

@@shlokbhakta2893 lol Java is not fun that’s why I do react 😂

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

@@Rippersshow react is not fun no more that why I chose flutter md vuejs there's Vue native

@ahmedbathily7013

11 ай бұрын

@@shlokbhakta2893 there is no need any more to write public static void you can write so void main(){ }

@Dev-Siri

11 ай бұрын

​@@ahmedbathily7013It's void main( ) {} not main void( ) {} And this doesn't still mean it's simpler, it's only there so that hello world isn't as embarrassing as it was

is there anyway to make one with python?

@mortezaayashi9581

11 ай бұрын

What's next? Building ps6 ui and backend with python?

@huh3

11 ай бұрын

@@mortezaayashi9581 I'm new to this sector.currently learning python. all I wanted is to gain some experience by this that's all.

@AkhtarReviews

11 ай бұрын

Yes, with KivyMD.

@huh3

11 ай бұрын

@@AkhtarReviews Thank you.

@shlokbhakta2893

11 ай бұрын

@@mortezaayashi9581sure why not, most libraries already use c++ and rust as their backend lol.

Wait why is react native more of an abstraktion than flutter? That’s a no

Flutter should be above all

@AlphaGamingWorld

11 ай бұрын

LoL