Easily one of the best front to back tutorial builds on KZread. This dude just showcased how much knowledge he has on the matter. Hope to fly w you when I’m in Mass.

I've just finished my first ever build with the advice given throughout this video, which I must have watched at least 50 times. I had to take another 2-inch cinewhoop frame because the QAV-Pro Nano was no longer available, otherwise I used the same components except for the Remote ID and the switch, which I don't need. I'll do a test this afternoon and get back to you. Anyway, thanks Troncat for these videos full of tips and advice, I learn 3x faster with you.

@Knippsler

2 ай бұрын

hey, I would love to hear how it went!

@akilansritharan3982

Ай бұрын

Hey ! What frame did you use ?

@Saaaaamdsa

Ай бұрын

@@Knippsler I'm having some troubles with PID Tuning (motors are hot as hell, battery is sucked up in seconds, Warning message from betaflight) that I haven't fixed yet otherwise it's a really good drone! I'll contact TroncatFPV to see if he can help us. I'll tell you more about the adventure in this comment!

@cowboydestroy

7 күн бұрын

@@akilansritharan3982 thats what i want to know, what frame?

@cowboydestroy

7 күн бұрын

what frame did you use? the qav pro nano has been outta stock for a while

Neat trick with the dental floss on the grommets!

watching something that i will never do but interesting to watch :)

@matusnovosadek5426

3 ай бұрын

I watched tons of building videos because I thought they are cool and I knew I will never build my own drone. 3 years later, I'm building my own drones.... :D :D

@user-sl4pz6ek6h

3 ай бұрын

I like the step by step tutorials and this guy makes it look super easy I feel confident I can do this after watching this guy and I’ve only owned a cheap $40 dollar quad from Walmart 😂😂😅😅

@gamingnoobs4686

3 ай бұрын

Same ;)

Crazy tutorial just what i've been searching, next week I'll try to make it with ELRs thanks!

Thanks for finally making a long video, really detailed and very creative.

This video is helpful for beginners like me, Thanks ❤❤

Awesome build, thanks for all the details and for sharing it!

have not watched a second yet, but i already know its gonna be the holy grail of cinewhooping

this thing is insane. bro i am really love your build videos. i will surely build your long range fpv

I will be doing the same with my Pavo20. Thank you for showing this off.

love your videos man!! waiting for your 2024 5" freestyle drone budget build video🙏

You keep coming out with drone builds for drones I didn’t know I needed! 😅😂

I have the same aio board I used to replace a stock junk one on my rekon 4fr and love it! Great aio for the price.

Exactly what i needed thank you !!

I’ve been setting up USER1 switches for my drones with O3 Air Units so when I’m setting up betaflight or tuning with a battery my O3 unit doesn’t over heat. It’s very helpful especially with drones with GPS on a cold start to acquire the satellites.

This sold me on the qav micro, I went with the 2.5” Well done video

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

QAV micro is an awesome frame 👌

Bro I just got my first 3 hours in the simulator and you already makes me want to build this drone lol

truly a goat for this!

Thanks for shareing the videos been really helpful with my build, I cant seem to get you CLI dump link to open anyone else had this issue

Great video

New sub!! I like your drones!! 👍✨

Ive had bad luck with 2 of those HakRC AIO's .... I hope you have better luck 🤞🏻 switched to the reaper aio's and they've been great... Great upload

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity what issues did you experience with it? Good to know on the reaper AIO, it’s been on my radar!

@califpv

3 ай бұрын

​​@@TRONCATFPV 2 different ones the USB stopped working and on one it stopped displaying the BF OSD... I'm actually about to start building this next week. Do you have a stl file for the naked flywoo case? I have the reaper AIO in my cinebot. Has always worked flawlessly.

really like it😍

The rcvr is also a transmitter. Telemetry lost message is when your data drops from the drone to you

Awesome video as ever. Please can o ask which electric tool driver you use?

Just finished this build, amazing video. I was wondering if there’s a way to power the Dronetag bs with microusb instead of the LiPo when it’s behind the vtx switch like that. Takes a while to get satellite lock and would be cool if there was a way to get that done on a battery pack and then plug in the lipo, just can’t figure it out. Thanks!

I’d love to hear your GoPro settings for variable lighting such as starting outdoors and going indoors. I’d imagine you use 4k60 8:7 and ISO 100 to 400 or 800. Do you lock shutter or have it on auto or with a minimum set at 180° Appreciate your time!

thank you!!!

I need one of these

Thanks for the review. Cool. Be sure to insert a balancer for the naked gopro, you can directly solder the wire to the board? 4s

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

you could do that if you wanted. I just power the Naked GoPro off the balance lead.

Awesome video and guide as it is so hard to build a sub250 drone with a GoPro onboard! I have no clue about 3D-Printing. So could you please assist me with here: I want to have this Mount printed. Can you tell me what material (I guess TPU) and what % of infill and other settings are required for getting printed that GoPro base mount by Cinequads?

I am new to FPV buying gear now. What googles do you use with this build. Great work by the way and thanks for sharing

Holy shit I had no idea those vtx switches existed. That would have saved me about $200 worth of TBS unify's if I had know about them a year ago. The area I fly in is very easy to locate lost drones but very difficult to actually get to them. I've burned up 4 or 5 vtx modules now while my drone was stuck somewhere I couldn't get to it to turn it off

Just finished your build, great work! I‘m wondering why you don’t enable Bidirectional DShot in the motors tab, is there a reason for this?

Super build! What's the flight time with that 720mAh battery?

@alexbarbosa9723

13 күн бұрын

Good question

Roughly how long does a build like this take you? I would assume a novice builder (like me) would need more than double or triple the time but I'd like to have a ballpark idea of the time commitment if you don't mind. Great video btw and exactly the thing I want to have one day (sub250 with O3 and GoPro).

You said you’re props out but motor tab shows props in? Is this because the motors are upside down?

Friend, I have the same settings, would you mind making the tuning used available?

clean

Hey Tron, I appreciate your videos. I wanted to ask since I'm pretty new to this; I'm looking to build/buy a cinewhoop or bigger drone and currently have a BETAFPV Cetus. Its too light and has sh*tty range, and I want better footage than analog DVR. I bought a pair of Fatshark Echos and I also have a DJI FPV 2 controller. Is there a certain setup I could use that is compatible with both the analog goggles I have and the DJI Controller?

Do you prefer the qav 2" or 2.5" with a naked gopro? i already have a 3" but want something smaller for indoor/real estate type work, cant decide if I should go 2" or 2.5"

can I swap out the DJI O3 Air Unit with CADDX Polar Starlight and still be under 250g? thx looks sweet!

Thank you again for sharing! Another cool video. shame in Australia the frames are around 150plus post.ill keep n eye out for when they drop. cheers!

Rid question. I assume the rid acts as a normal gps and can be used for lost signal recovery/gps rescue ? And why bother putting on a switch? Why not just leave on all the time, I get indoor outdoor sense but is there a con or problem with just leaving on ? I’d imagine if your powering on indoor gps lock will delay and over head quad? Reason for off switch ? And how many sats need to lock for takeoff and how quick does it get there? Say 7 sats. Thanks asking for my qav nano and redkyte build. . Always look forward to your vids 👍🏼

Please review the avata 2, I want to know if it could potentially replace my entire indoor real estate setup. (I also use the same frame and gopro as you, love it, but would like some sensors and emergency hover on the avata 2)

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Mine is getting delivered Monday! Got some projects we're taking it out on and I'll report back 👍

@toasti2699

3 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV Awesome! I’ll be the first to watch it. Really looking forward to what the avata will do for the fpv industry. Also hoping the 04 (when it comes out) will finally be a gopro replacement

@toasti2699

2 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV Still no video of avata 2?

Thank you for the tutorial @troncatfpv ! I bought the frame right away! at 2:28 you mention that expressLRS receiver is compatible, but now I am ordering the parts and I see at specifications only: Receiver: CRSF / Frsky/ Futaba/ Flysky/ TBS Crossfire/ DSMX: DSM2 receiver no mention of ExpressLrs in the specifications :(

@TRONCATFPV

2 ай бұрын

you can use an ELRS receiver with this build. What is saying those specifications?

Beautiful build! How’s the flight characteristics compared to the 2.5? I think you definitely found a nice balance of light, probably quieter and safer drone to fly around people. Curious how it does on gentle dive / split s with the naked GP

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

This little guy performs surprisingly well outdoors even in mild wind. In that exterior shot of Supercharged the sun was setting and we needed to quickly get outside to film. This drone was the only one I had on hand at the moment and I was like, screw it, lets send it and see what it can do. Performed way better than I anticipated tbh. Didn't do much freestyle flight but performed great in dives with the GP11.

@gre-vo

3 ай бұрын

Nice! Appreciate the detailed reply.

@troncat fpv where’d you get that mini screwdriver

You gotta try an O3 discus

Life savor with this video, I’ve been on the hunt and was recommended this drone, no prior building experience but we are gonna give it a shot! Can it support the naked go pro 12 in the link you supplied or does it have to be a certain naked go pro to make it under 249?

@CaseyRodriguez-xb3jn

18 күн бұрын

Also, I will be using all the links provided to order everything. Thanks !

I got the switch and RID working perfectly except one thing. My OSD from betaflight is gone in my goggles. I can not figure out what I did wrong. Under my ports tag UART 1 appears to be my camera. It is an o3 plugged in. Nothing was wired to UART1 on my board so this is where I put the switch. Is it possible this is my problem?

Great video, i have a question about what cinewhoop to get. After fliing FPV for a year now after 6 years of mavics (watch my channel), i ended up with 5 drones and one of them is a cinelifter. I want to get started with Real Estate videos and after searching for a cinewhoop i found these two options under 250g: First is the more expensive version by "red kyte zwei" witch has a gopro in the frame but has probably the best fly performance and can be used also for some sport shots (2in1). And the second option this drone in your video witch has the advantage that i would decase my existing gopro witch i use still across all of my drones. So i wouldnt have to buy a gopro just for that 2in1 drone. I am now in a dilemma, I dont know if the second option still flies good when used in sports. If you can recomend something it would be great. (*It has to be dji o3 and elrs)

where is the balance lead from?

I'd personally prefer the QAV 2.5" frame with 1303.5 5000kv motors on 4S with only the O3 for recording. Similar to your last years sub250g cinewhoop. Just qav frame instead of the pavo25 frame Hopefully sometime soon the O4 can replace the gopro

@Sfpv1994

3 ай бұрын

Do you know If the Moonlight would fit into the qav25?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

QAV2.5” frame is killer. I have a few drones on that frame as well with the same AIO and an O3. The QAV line in general is pretty damn nice. Would love to see 8:7 or at least 4:3 5k on the O4. High hopes!

@manuel_a_c

3 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV O4 is coming? 11/9 April? I have to buy a new O3, is it better to wait for the new O4?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

I would personally wait for now. If O4 is coming out, O3 will go down in price and O4 will be the new king.

Why not use the 03 transmission system am i missing something by buying my drones PNP? Presumably without RID and ELRS it will be 6-8g lighter?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

This drone does use the O3 transmission, just not for radio link. I prefer to use crossfire on all my professional equipment and don't want to be limited to DJI's controller.

I’ve now watched this 2 times and one time stoned.

Hey super nice video!!! I have built similar set up just with QAV Micro Frame and flying with Flywoo naked GoPro 11 + Tattu 450mah 4s battery. Unfortunately after approximately 40-50s of flight goPro stops recording. Do you have similar experience?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

If you're using a slower memory card you'll run into shorter record times. You'll also run into shorter record times if you're using a naked case that doesn't offer sufficient cooling, this will cause the gopro to overheat and shut down.

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Also, QAV micro frame slaps just as hard as this nano frame. Honestly the whole QAV line is pretty tight lol

Tip: use an expresslrs ep2 reciever to save weight it will still outdo your video link

Whats the benefit of being under 250g while flying under part 107 if you still need to be remote I'd compliant? Is it just so that it is category 1 for OOP or are there more benefits?

CLI Dump link sends me to some weird site with some notification requests. Is there another link for the CLI? Also, Thanks a ton for this great build video.

@gmanFPV

Ай бұрын

@@justkillen07 Nope, I just followed along with the end of the video and set it up. I also figured that I had enough unique changes to my config that It was overall better to just configure betaflight on my own instead of using CLI. My build flies great tho!

@gmanFPV

Ай бұрын

​@justkillen07 mine flies great. Same motors. Almost everything is the same, except I do not have the pit switch. Are you running the same props? Are you sure they are not upside down? I had a hard time telling which side should be up. I followed the tuning steps except I left airmode on instead of having it on a switch and I did not do any pit switch stuff.

What if i want to use analog? What would you reccomend for this build?

what flight time was you averaging with this drone?

Hello there. I was searching for your patreon but can t find it. Would be happy to support ! I was wondering, would recommand the nano frame or the 2.5 " frame ? ANd is there a big difference from your experience with others cinewoops frames ?

is it possible to switch the o3 out with an analogue thingy?

@98260

3 ай бұрын

Yes. You could add a foxeer or caddx or any analog camera and a diatone 1.6watt vtx or higher watt vtx. Analog isn't preferred as it does not have as good of penetration as digital systems such as djis o3 unit. Meaning you would get much worse signal breakup between walls of a house. Outside isn't much of an issue. Also. Analog might increase the drones weight

So can the GPS be used for RTH? I am so curious about this? The new Lumenier one sounds like it might. But still unclear on this.

@stefanbogner2523

3 ай бұрын

I think it works for RTH

@graybearddrones

2 ай бұрын

Bopping and weaving for your parts you linked because they’re SOLDOUT! Can’t find rush antenna, I have the tango 2 pro with crossfire so identical build? Can’t believe I’m diving down this rabbit hole as my first build🤦‍♂️

Does it fly similar to velocidrone fpv simulator?

waiting for 2024 build freestyle fpv

Very curious to see, did you get any overheating with naked o3? In what temperatures did you fly it?

Why don't you choose a BLHeli_32 AIO instead of BLHeli_S?

Even though you don't need RID indoors why even worry about turning it off with a switch? Just keep it on and ignore it?

What powers the go pro without the battery? where did you connect and what to?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

The GoPro just connects via the balance cable that flywoo includes with their naked GoPro kits. You could opt to solder a power cable directly to the flight controller if you prefer.

How is the flight time with 720mah battery?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Can't believe I forgot to include this in the video lol. With the 720mah I see about 4/5 Minutes

How loud is it? Tone?

Do you need remote ID if you are flying under the part 107 license?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Yes, you’ll need RID regardless of the drones weight

Doesn’t the o3 guide from dji say not to use 24 pwm because it can interfere with the o3 gyro?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

the majority of my quads are running 24pwm and I haven't had any issues.

@califpv

3 ай бұрын

If your camera is soft-mounted correctly, 24pwm won't cause any vibrations in your cam footage

Would ypu recommend this setup for walksnail avatar hd pro kit? I see thst frame is designed for dji o3 :s

@TRONCATFPV

2 ай бұрын

I can't recommend that setup as i'm unsure if the avatar would fit this frame

Would a caddx moonlight fit as well? I mean in size dimensions. In know it would be heavier

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

I will check this later today and will report back 👍

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Off the bat I know the moonlight has two antennas instead of 1 so you’d have to figure out how to mount those

@Sfpv1994

3 ай бұрын

​@@TRONCATFPVthat would be nice If you Check that! The antenna should Not be a Problem :)

@Sfpv1994

3 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV If you are looking IT would be interesting If It fits into the 20 or 25 . Thanks:)

Any idea what the best 2-3inch cinewhoop frame to look into is?. Cheers

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Im a big fan of lumeniere’s QAV line. They have a 2” and 2.5” frame that are awesome. Just did a whole build tutorial using the 2” frame a week or two ago 🤙

@BreeZieDoesiT

3 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV yea great video!. You prefer these QAVs to the cinebot line by any chance?. Thanks for any input

Why 24 pwm. With o3 it should be 48 or not?

my drone tag's gps isn't working, only the remote ID. Also in Betaflight the gps doesn't light up... Any help?

is a naked o3 important to making this fly well? or is it just if i want to keep it sub250g?

@filipeboica2519

Ай бұрын

Hey! I have the same question.. Did you try it?

@herokme0

Ай бұрын

@@filipeboica2519 i haven’t, i ended up building a 2.5” instead of a 2”. i heard naked o3’s are very fragile so i didn’t go down that route

Why do you use 2.4 antenna instead of 868/915?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

That antenna is 900mhz, don’t be fooled by its size 🤙

Can you fly this drone with the DJI remote controller and the goggles 2

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

yup!

Hi , nice video. I am newbie and i love drone world but i don't want to buy a builed-drone... so after watching your video wanna know which rc controller i should buy ? a controller that i will use for other drones that i will build myself ... thank you for answering

@fpvkye7414

2 ай бұрын

If I may share my opinion, anything by Radiomaster will be a good option. Radiomaster pocket is the budget but still good option. Radiomaster Boxer is probably the best for the price. Other than Radiomaster anything with EdgeTX will be great. ELRS is probably the best radio link to go with. Crossfire is good too but is a little more expensive

@xXEshanXx

2 ай бұрын

@@fpvkye7414 hi, thank you for your kind reply. So i want to stay on budget controller radiomaster pocket but they ask for "region" -> fcc or lbt ??? Another question, for the "beginner drone" instead ? thank you for your time

@fpvkye7414

2 ай бұрын

What country are you located in? The FCC is for compliance in the USA and LBT is Europe. FCC version will have a higher output power as Europe has a 100mw output limit I believe. I’m not sure I understand your second question. Could you try asking it in a different way?

@xXEshanXx

2 ай бұрын

@@fpvkye7414 good morning mate ! I am situated in Italy . The last question was : which drone i should buy for start ? Not Dji because i love making stuff on my way.

@fpvkye7414

2 ай бұрын

The above website will have all the parts you need and info about them. I’m assuming you want to do outdoor fun flying which would Lead you to drones in the 5” class. The Joshua bardwell kit is great as JB has a full build series detailing every step of the way. All the tools and recommended parts are listed on his site too. In terms of what video system you’d want you have a few options: Analog is the cheapest and lightest. Has worked for years and is very simple to use. Low video quality though HD-Zero is kind of in between digital and analog. Very low latency and better visual quality than analog. Ideal for racing You have two digital options available: DJI Highest latency of all the video links but highest video quality. Works pretty flawlessly but pretty much no room for cross compatibility Walksnail Slightly lower latency than DJI similar video quality. A little more compatibility with other stuff (standalone vrx modules to run on analog or hdzero goggles) However it may be slightly more buggy

Do you use flux to solder the small pads?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

yup! always use flux, it will help a lot on this board

We should FLOOD the country with remote ID every weekend!!!

What's the flight time roughly?

Would this build be compatible with walksnail?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

If you added a walksnail VTX, yes

dontyou have to use a 900 elrs antenna im lead to believe you cannot use a 2.4 elrs antenna?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

That is a 900mhz antenna, just a smaller one They work great on smaller builds like this

can you tell us how to connect drone and radio

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

This will vary depending on what receiver you’re using and what radio

@TrY_NoT_LaUgH1

3 ай бұрын

@@TRONCATFPV got it

Hello what ur thought about avata 2

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

Not sure yet! Ordered one yesterday for testing. I’ll be posting a review in the next few weeks!

how much did the build cost

Is it silent? Or a lawn mower in the air?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

I mean, its a drone. Its not silent, but it definitely doesn't sound like a lawnmower.

! “Golden nut” between the frame and the AIO is misssing ! (otherwise great video 👍)

cant you just directly go to pinio?

@TRONCATFPV

3 ай бұрын

?? You mean completely bypass the VTX switch? Without the VTX switch I used theres no way to turn the RID module on and off since you need another UART.

11:44

Need to save 4ish grams to get nd filters on there

This build gives me claustrophobia

600 bucks.... damn