How to bring you the 10.000$ Yamaha CS-80 sound in a 200$ Casio CZ synthesizer

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The feedback to my last Casioheim video was so big so I want to make another sound tutorial with one the most famous sounds from the expensive Yamaha CS-80. The vangelic synthbrass sound.
It`s an experiment that show how can bring expensive sounds in cheap synths. It`s all about good sound programming.
The famous CS-80 synth brass sound is one of the most iconic sounds in history of synthesizers. Used by Vangelis in the Bladerunner soundtrack. Sure is the Casio CZ no CS-80. The CS-80 is fantastic with unique sound. But you can create also on cheap and underrated synths sounds with legendary soul. Try it.
I used a bit Lexicon MPX delay and Roland SRV reverb here.
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  • @retrosound72
    @retrosound723 жыл бұрын

    The CASIO CZ Synthesizer from the year 1984 is a very interesting synth. Here can you find the full CASIO CZ playlist with single sound demos, sound tutorials and one synth demo tracks. Enjoy. The CASIO CZ playlist ----> kzread.info/head/PLe08Lbpy8pPbVOueQikTUmJ4mH_RvubhF

  • @erichugh6279

    @erichugh6279

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm kinda off topic but does anyone know a good place to stream new series online?

  • @astrophonix
    @astrophonix6 жыл бұрын

    "I've... heard things you people wouldn't believe. Casio CZ101's taking on the role of Yamaha CS-80's. I've heard VL-Tones imitating modular synths through a Sennheiser mic. All these technologies will be assimilated in time, like... Fairlights on your iphone. Time... to roll another spliff."

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    perfect :D

  • @Eleni_Be

    @Eleni_Be

    4 жыл бұрын

    wonderful !

  • @romanbaygildin315

    @romanbaygildin315

    4 жыл бұрын

    More CS-80 than CS-80

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@romanbaygildin315 Uh what? Lol

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is making me happy to have a CZ-101. You're making me want to make patches on it. Is it just me or is it a little buggy sometimes? Pushing the pitch bend wheel all the way up or down causes the sound to cut out for example. Also patches don't seem to actually persist after turning the synth off. Is this normal? Do I need a memory card to save patches? Maybe I just need to clean mine. I found dead crickets in my Wavestation EX when I got it from an auction so who knows what could be lurking in my CZ-101? :s

  • @GandalfsBeard1
    @GandalfsBeard14 жыл бұрын

    I keep rewatching your CZ vids--especially this one--because they really showcase what a fantastically diverse Synth the CZ series is. I love my 101 and 5000. I've had them since the 1980's and they're just as relevant today as any of the massively expensive synths out there (which is good, because I can't afford them. Lol). They can emulate the sounds generated of just about any of the other synths, and every time I play a few of my electronica and industrial pieces for other people--including other musicians--they just laugh and don't believe me when I tell them every track is 100% Casio.

  • @kek23k
    @kek23k5 жыл бұрын

    I've told you before, stop showing everyone how good the Cosmo synths are. It's a secret! :D

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    5 жыл бұрын

    haha

  • @icecreammm2
    @icecreammm26 жыл бұрын

    I love these CZ-101 video’s. You should do a series about it.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching :)

  • @moogdome2562
    @moogdome25625 жыл бұрын

    Wow. i have seen these CZs and read the ad's, but never expected such a beautiful think sound. I love the Cs80, but too heavy costs too much I love this. thank you for sharing.

  • @mikkovihonen2631
    @mikkovihonen26315 жыл бұрын

    I punched in this patch on my Casio CZ-101 and boy oh boy does it sound magnificent (with appropriate delay and reverb dialed in on a Zoom MS-70CDR)! Great tutorial! Thank you especially for this one!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    5 жыл бұрын

    :)) thank you

  • @ReginatorNet
    @ReginatorNet6 жыл бұрын

    These demos have sparked the GAS light, and I just bought another CZ-101! I got my first CZ-101 back in 1985 and had it until it died in 2000. The CZ is a secret sauce synth - it's truly remarkable.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    great . thanks :)

  • @semuta2752
    @semuta27524 жыл бұрын

    Aw yis, helped a friend repair his 101 last week and found a “broken” CZ-1000 for $40 yesterday. Took longer to unscrew the thing than to replace the dc jack and reflow the poor soldering. Immediately loved what came out of the shop speakers, and finished the rest of my work with your videos on in the background.

  • @CholokMauser
    @CholokMauser6 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate this series

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha cool. :D yes more coming soon.

  • @DimitrisDermanisMusic
    @DimitrisDermanisMusic6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for showing what synthesizers are really made for. I really love those PD synths. The CZ-1000 is my favorite. Adding chorus or phaser really makes it shine!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching and your comment :)

  • @woz3018
    @woz3018 Жыл бұрын

    I bought one after having my eyes on it for almost two years yesterday. I wanted it for it´s somewhat unique brass sounds and DX like Moog- Bass approaches cause I do 80´s Boogie/Modern Funk. It also can rock the bells 4 sure... But this and your whole video series showed me a whole `nother rabbit whole to what Phase Distortion is capable of. Thanks for the input and chappeau!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your feedback

  • @synthscolors
    @synthscolors6 жыл бұрын

    Vangelis Yamaha CS80 sounds & Casio CZ lovers... Watch it ! Hat off & thanks for this delight for ears... once again you've proved that underrated synths allows tremendous sounding possibilities, depending on the user's programming skills... Keep sharing your passion & talents through these projects ! ;-))

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot my friend :)

  • @synthscolors

    @synthscolors

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome ! Fully deserved my friend ! ;-))

  • @TH3_FURY
    @TH3_FURY6 жыл бұрын

    That "Blade Runner" sound is so fantastic ....CZ is a little demon ! Amazing vid. Marko !

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes Eric. :D thanks a lot

  • @NeilVanceNeilVance
    @NeilVanceNeilVance6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent man I see/here what you have done with your clever pitch envelope programming!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes the pitch envelope is here very important. thank you

  • @cubdukat
    @cubdukat6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for reminding me why I loved the CZ series so much...

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes fantastic synths. a bit forgotten these days analog hype

  • @hawk194
    @hawk1946 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always been a fan of the CZ-101. Nice work from you.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching :)

  • @VolcaRock
    @VolcaRock6 жыл бұрын

    Ja, sehr geil. Hut ab!! Vom Claim über Video bis hin zum Inhalt! Authentisch nachgestellt mit dieser kleinen Kiste!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    Der kleine Scheißer spielt alles an die Wand :D

  • @machiwoomiapoo
    @machiwoomiapoo6 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! I have a Casio CZ-1000. I did a demo with it the other day. I never tried to program a sound with it though. I did get a pretty sweet CS-80 type sound on my Roland Fantom G8 though. :) Keep up the videos. I'm always enjoying them. :) Take care, Sam.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you Sam :)

  • @phranquepeasant7526
    @phranquepeasant75263 жыл бұрын

    Ooooow, yes! This is marvelous. Finally I can put my CZ-1 to work.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @flobama7200
    @flobama72005 жыл бұрын

    i just copped one of these for $330 off reverb. 8 note polyphony & still cheaper than a minilogue!!!

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    4 жыл бұрын

    I managed to get it for $200. Feeling lucky and beyond excited! How are you liking yours a year later?

  • @lilakmonoke982
    @lilakmonoke9826 жыл бұрын

    how about "how to bring the 200 000 $$ moog modular 55 sound in a 200$ casio ..." next? ;-) alles gute, marko!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha...kommt noch ;) ich danke dir.

  • @matrix12x
    @matrix12x3 жыл бұрын

    great job with this patch!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌💫

  • @cyberholix
    @cyberholix6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. The PD synthesis is so underrated.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    agree with you. thank you

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    4 жыл бұрын

    Recommend any resources to learn more about it?

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    3 жыл бұрын

    6 months later update: I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

  • @edmundworrell1864
    @edmundworrell18646 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video thanks for the share

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching :)

  • @sssyntax
    @sssyntax4 жыл бұрын

    Great videos man. You do a great job with PD! The other casios worth looking at are any of the early 2000s silver wk range with the blue dsp button to the right of the screen. Wk3500-wk8000 and also the MZ2000 which all those are based on. Very few people have ever used them creatively and are a sadly under rated range of synths. Very quick interface which is nice and fast to get what you want on the fly. Once again, great job :)

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie6 жыл бұрын

    very well done

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you :)

  • @mrhs5220
    @mrhs52203 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people looked (and still look) at the CZ-101 series as a poor person's DX-7, but they were really never comparable in what you could get out of them.

  • @ivanfiasco654
    @ivanfiasco6546 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe it! muchas gracias hermano

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :)) thank you

  • @lowstaar
    @lowstaar4 жыл бұрын

    Its like the CS-80 but more gritty and digital, its awesome

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    4 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @RubiconRecordings
    @RubiconRecordings6 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video.....again.....

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much :) more coming soon

  • @wtw84
    @wtw842 жыл бұрын

    What a great synthesizer!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    2 жыл бұрын

    🎹🔨

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! If a cheap Casio can mimik a CS-80, it should be possible with my Prophet Rev2 as well ... getting up at 2 am ...

  • @sssyntax
    @sssyntax6 жыл бұрын

    Great videos man! The cz range dont seem to get the love they should. The other "sleeper" casio is the wk3700 and wk8000. These have been completely missed by synth lovers.

  • @reneotten2288
    @reneotten22886 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @PDZofficial
    @PDZofficial6 жыл бұрын

    Nice blade runner reference. +1 respect

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you :)

  • @ksweet1995
    @ksweet19956 жыл бұрын

    Just emulated the sound on my own cz101 great tutorial!! Just wish you had the settings just listed in the description for quick reference.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you :)

  • @timetodie636

    @timetodie636

    3 жыл бұрын

    Could you post the settings and how you got the sound??? Trying to recreate on my cz-1.

  • @ironinquisitor3656
    @ironinquisitor36562 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial! Now I'm just trying to figure out how to translate your tutorial in Subtractive synthesize terms in my head so I can try and create a sound like this on my JP-08.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can do it!

  • @iancain6647
    @iancain66472 жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is so cool!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you!

  • @iancain6647

    @iancain6647

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retrosound72 I have the cz 1 I'm excited to learn how to program ot to sound this way

  • @caesarmagno2117
    @caesarmagno21176 жыл бұрын

    How can You do this AWESOME things? Nice, Man. Still raising

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    It´s my job. ;) thanks a lot

  • @mysterio77690
    @mysterio776906 жыл бұрын

    impressive!!wowww!!!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you :)

  • @make_music
    @make_music6 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial! Thank you!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching :)

  • @marcbrasse747
    @marcbrasse7476 жыл бұрын

    A truly fantastic sound! The right key size, velocity, poly aftertouch and a ribbon controller are however also very important because they are the keys to the CS's expression. Of couse the first 2 points could be taken care of by buying a bigger CZ but the last 2, very important points, would be a lot more difficult to solve. Otherwise I might be selling my original because it getting so old that it's electronic components haves become a bit of a liability.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes the CZ is no CS and it was a experiment but I think the CZ is better as the most here thinking

  • @BabyEvil1
    @BabyEvil16 жыл бұрын

    my first synth was a CZ5000, I had no idea about romplers, analog, digital, etc.... Programming it was impossible for me at that time, but it had some really great sounds. I might get one again, just to see how it suits me now.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes the CZ series was the first synth for a lot .

  • @MrKayMrKay

    @MrKayMrKay

    6 жыл бұрын

    First "real synth" for me too (after a Yamaha CS01MkII). Sold it for a Roland U20, wish I never had

  • @MrWkdWilly

    @MrWkdWilly

    5 жыл бұрын

    My first one too, to my regret I swapped it for a guitar🤔😀

  • @KiR_3d
    @KiR_3d6 жыл бұрын

    CZ-101 is a versatile instrument as i know :) Can you repeat this with any Access Virus?

  • @christianholmstedt8770
    @christianholmstedt87706 жыл бұрын

    Update: "How to bring you the 10.000$ Yamaha CS-80 sound in a 5000$ Casio CZ synthesizer"

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :D

  • @pecne

    @pecne

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@retrosound72 I just bought one for 200$

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pecne Same here, I got lucky. There's one on Reverb right now for just under $200 too.

  • @olilarkin
    @olilarkin5 жыл бұрын

    awesome video :-)

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    5 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @Kalman11111
    @Kalman111113 жыл бұрын

    Bring us Vangelis sounds! LOL, super tones!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha :)

  • @dennisristow2102
    @dennisristow21026 жыл бұрын

    I've always said you could run a Casio toy through an Eventide or other high end effect machine, and with just a bit of effort, make it sound better. Not that the CZ is a toy, in 1985 it was the first synth I ever bought brand new. But I would be curious what an old home Casio unit like a Casiotone MT-68 would sound like through a good quality reverb and an amp simulator. Never underestimate a good quality effect unit. Usually even the most inexpensive and used synths have some Oscillator/Filter/Amp design. Any half-way decent synth, even if it sounds thin by itself, will sound much fuller through quality outboard effects. As good as a Minimoog sounds by itself, it sounds even better with just a little reverb or delay. Great tutorials. Makes me want to go out and pick up some of these old gems while they're still affordable and not $10k, LOL!

  • @TheJonHolstein

    @TheJonHolstein

    6 жыл бұрын

    the vst emulation of CZ, offer much better interface, though.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes sure. its the cream for a synth. :) thank you

  • @soriacx
    @soriacx6 жыл бұрын

    Although bringing up some cheap alternative to the ridiculous huge and expensive CS-80 is only half of it, the other very important part is the cheap alternative to the ridiculous huge and expensive Lexicon 224, which very much was the salt in Vangelis' soundscapes :-)

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes that is the legend.

  • @sonicaids
    @sonicaids6 жыл бұрын

    not sure if you already have done a video on them. but i would love to see one about Roland Sound canvas modules.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    unfortunately not

  • @jairovilar
    @jairovilar6 жыл бұрын

    Good!!!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :))

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass6 жыл бұрын

    Ive actually changed my mind about Casio's now.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    a new chance for casio love...;)

  • @freddie_video
    @freddie_video6 жыл бұрын

    bravo!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @inanesilence
    @inanesilence6 жыл бұрын

    Could you please specify in the description the configuration of the preset? this video and the oberheim video are very cool!! Congratulations

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot :)

  • @christopherlangley8441
    @christopherlangley84416 жыл бұрын

    Fucking hell... that's insane... You always manage to inspire me. Thanks :)

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    cool :) thanks a lot

  • @user-xy1kr9tp4d
    @user-xy1kr9tp4d6 жыл бұрын

    cool, basses like

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    спасибо

  • @ArpLaszlo
    @ArpLaszlo Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Maybe I can stop drooling over a CS80 I’ll never own and get a CZ-101 instead.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌😄

  • @gabrielsaxadmp
    @gabrielsaxadmp3 жыл бұрын

    impressive!! sensational!!! I would like to know where you have this patch to download for my CZ5000, I would love to have ... thanks

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you. Try it.

  • @garyabbot4659
    @garyabbot46596 жыл бұрын

    You tempted me to try this sound on a reface dx. I did ok. i filmed it on a potato if anyone wants to hear it.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    cool. try it!

  • @garyabbot4659

    @garyabbot4659

    6 жыл бұрын

    RetroSound Did mate. Thanks for the idea

  • @liudas5377
    @liudas53776 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.....

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @snow8725
    @snow87253 жыл бұрын

    How would you recreate the Yamaha DX7 synths?

  • @35matinee
    @35matinee3 жыл бұрын

    You've got the entire sound already built when you start, so the tones we hear starting with the DCO are not the same on our machine as yours. And, we don't get to see how you save them. It would be better if you start from the beginning as we are doing!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you!

  • @SamLowryDZ-015
    @SamLowryDZ-0156 жыл бұрын

    I recall reviews at the time were a little bit dismissive not only of the cheapness but also of the 're-synthisis' aspect of the CZ range.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes I know. You have here no filter. Its more FM like as analog.

  • @TheB1gduk
    @TheB1gduk3 жыл бұрын

    I had one of these in the 80’s , sold it didn’t really know how to use it, it didn’t sound very realistic to the Yamaha pss and Roland D50 ect keyboards that were about then just hisses and squeals and pops and monophonic as well to my untrained ear. Now I know more about synths and grown up I wish I knew then what I know now, these older synths have unique qualities in their own right , yes there are more powerful affordable units today’s but none will have the same charm , tactile experience or sound as the original does. Did you buy yours from a spotty teenager in Gtr Manchester ?

  • @TransistorBased
    @TransistorBased6 жыл бұрын

    Yo, just realized your into is from a DX7. 👏 Where were these videos before I sold my CZ?

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    buy a CZ :) thank you

  • @TransistorBased

    @TransistorBased

    6 жыл бұрын

    RetroSound I'm actually looking into another

  • @n8goulet

    @n8goulet

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'll tell you what, I made the right decision in 1986 of buying a Casio CZ instead of a DX-7 or Oberheim Matrix 6 as friends of mine did. I typically loved analog synth sounds, and the CZ's do way better for classic synth sounds than either of those do. OB-X or OB-8 would have been another story (for real time tweaking anyway). The CZ's make better analog lead sounds than the Matrix 6 does, very surprising. Not to mention his Matrix 6 spent half it's life back at the factory for repairs. A decent Oberheim (OB-X or OB-8), Moog (Mini, Memory), ARP (Pro Soloist, 2600. Odyssey) or Sequential (Prophet V or 10) can still make some sounds I have not heard of the CZ's and I had thousands of sound patches since I interfaced my CZ's to my Amigas. Especially sounds that require real time knobs for tweaking. But the CZ were able to mimic a surprisingly high number of those type of sounds, unlike a DX-7, DX-100, or Matrix 6, or Sequential Max, some other synths my friends had. I'd still choose a CZ over some of the Roland Juno's, and cheaper 1980s/70s Moogs. Pretty much any synth in the 80s under $2000, I think the CZ's were generally better for analog type sounds, especially true for lead sounds. Maybe not for a few string patches & pads.

  • @TransistorBased

    @TransistorBased

    6 жыл бұрын

    n8goulet I never regretted getting mine, but it sure was tough to get rid of

  • @n8goulet

    @n8goulet

    6 жыл бұрын

    Which keyboard was hard to get rid of?

  • @PoderFantasma
    @PoderFantasma6 жыл бұрын

    do you know if its possible to create that sound on a microkorg? grettings from chile!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    sure. use 2 VCO saw and detune, pitch envelope short decay but 3/4 depth, filter cutoff 80% resonance 0%, slow attack and release times....try it

  • @fortheloveofnoise

    @fortheloveofnoise

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sell the MicroKorg and buy a CZ-101...or if you want a more professional take on a CZ get the CZ-1.

  • @Casious_Productions

    @Casious_Productions

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do NOT sell your Microkorg..it's a little beast..and way more capable of analog sounds..well..sounds of any character really..plus..you have a vocoder...CZ:as are still pretty cheap..so get one in addition instead..CZ1 ..3000..and CZ5000 and CZ 101 are the same synths..just without the pressure sensitivity and full size keyboard..same sound engine :-p But with the CZ5000 you get an 8-track sequencer..and it's a hell of a lot of fun :-p

  • @joeyrome147
    @joeyrome1473 жыл бұрын

    The only time I make comments is when I’m trolling. This is the first time I’m a positive troll. Thank you! My memory card should be here in a few days. And then the world!!!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    3 жыл бұрын

    🎹🌎🎶🖐 Have fun.

  • @lownrgy
    @lownrgy6 жыл бұрын

    do you provide this patch for other casio users?

  • @JohnCulpry
    @JohnCulpry5 жыл бұрын

    When you say DCO2 is identical, are you referring to DCO1 or DCA1?

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    5 жыл бұрын

    both

  • @effervescentelephant917
    @effervescentelephant9176 ай бұрын

    What patch did you initialize to program this? I tried matching your sound but can’t get it right :/

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 ай бұрын

    I used the Init patch

  • @effervescentelephant917

    @effervescentelephant917

    6 ай бұрын

    @@retrosound72 why didn’t I think of it? lol. Managed to get it right, thanks! Great Sound Designing 🤙🏼

  • @igorcardenas1364
    @igorcardenas13646 жыл бұрын

    What is the diference between a cz 101 and cz 1000? I have a cz 1000. Can i get all the sounds/features of a 101? Greetings from Perú

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    absolut identical. try it.

  • @n8goulet

    @n8goulet

    6 жыл бұрын

    The difference is: CZ-1000 has full size keys, CZ-101 has mid-size keys (main difference) CZ-1000 has membrane buttons vs physical. I sold my CZ-101 and bought a CZ-1000. If you know how to actually play keyboards, you'll find the full size keys make a huge difference, and mid size keys would look silly on stage. However, consider the CZ-101 was a lot cheaper, it made sense for a of people. Also, the CZ-101 & 1000 speak the same language. Some software like libarians and patch editors did not work on the other model CZ synths unless specifically written to be compatible with them. . Another good reason to keep one of these, and have a later model with more features if you needed them. A synth is only as good as your sound collection, unless you make everything from scratch. The CZ's had an excellent collection, and that was it's biggest selling point besides the low cost. Having a computer and MIDI interface, and the know how to use it is essential. Because the CZ's were affordable, easy to purchase (some retail stores and even small music stores sold them), and the CZs were one of the very first popular synths with built-in MIDI, it was an ideal synth for a home computer enthusiast and for those reasons had one of the better sound collection libraries. The DX-7 had huge collections of sounds too, but it was a different animal all together and made totally different types of sounds. The CZ was basically an analog synth made digitally. I had a cheaper Yamaha FB-01 then later got a module DX-7 and now use a soft synth of one. I later purchased a 2nd CZ-1000 and then bought the ultimate CZ, a CZ-1. Then a 2nd CZ-1. The sound system is identical in all CZ keyboards, the tones it makes. CZ-1 adds a 61 keybed with full aftertouch and velocity, more notes polyphonic, split & layer ability, better LCD screen, etc. The sound is still exactly the same to the human ear. Maybe under a scope converters could be different. Same difference, believe me. Also has a chorus effect. CZ-5000 lacks the aftertouch (very important especially when using as a MIDI controller for other sound modules) but added a sequencer (I didn't care about that). CZ-3000 was also 61 keys, but lacks aftertouch and maybe the velocity (I forget). As someone else mentioned, and effects pedals or a multi-effects processor will make a world of difference with any CZ. The same could be said about nearly any synth from this era. In the 80s I bought a digital reverb pedal, a phaser, flanger, chorus and distortion. The reverb I found by far the most useful. Phaser would be next. I used the chorus pedal more on other synths like my Yamaha FM synths to add a Leslie effect to the organ patches. Now a days you can buy a multi-effects processor cheap. Going the software synth route mostly, my effects pedals are one less thing I need to drag to the gigs and setup. I have all of those effects done in software and they work on all of my software synths. I add a touch a reverb to many sounds, sometimes phase or flange, etc.

  • @thecrowleysband
    @thecrowleysband4 жыл бұрын

    Just got this synth and I followed averything for the first line but I'm confused as what to do with DCO2 DCW2 and DCA2?

  • @JUNO-69

    @JUNO-69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really late reply but I’m just going through setting up these patches. What you need to do is set the line selector to 1+1 which basically copies the first line exactly but then allows you to detune it giving that wide sound. It looks like maybe he is using line 1+2 which means that you would have to manually edit the same parameters into line 2 then with different envelope settings as he mentioned. It’s a little unclear to be honest. But it still sounds really good using line 1+1.

  • @tsitracommunications2884
    @tsitracommunications28842 жыл бұрын

    Could such be done also with a moog concertmate mg 1?

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    2 жыл бұрын

    try it. But I think the result is a bit different

  • @tsitracommunications2884

    @tsitracommunications2884

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retrosound72 ah well

  • @electronicexposure
    @electronicexposure6 жыл бұрын

    I had a dream I bought an acoustic CS-80 hahaha

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :D

  • @noddyspuncture
    @noddyspuncture6 жыл бұрын

    Haha... sounds way better than the deckards dream thing anyway...!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :D

  • @ReginatorNet
    @ReginatorNet6 жыл бұрын

    I miss my CZ-101

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    ;)

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo87426 жыл бұрын

    Phase modulation. It can do almost anything! And my cz101 got Stolen ! Peace 🎶🙏👽🔦🕺✌🏻❤️👍🏻👏🏻🛸Christo

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes very versatile. peace

  • @notfoundrick3878
    @notfoundrick38785 жыл бұрын

    Is €280 a good price for a cz101 in almost perfect condition?

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    5 жыл бұрын

    it`s ok

  • @hardcorehouse
    @hardcorehouse4 жыл бұрын

    Impressive budget tech, from the day I first heard it in ‘86. BUT..I’ve never felt it actually approximates seriously good analog synths..

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic6 жыл бұрын

    These Casios aren't all that cheap anymore.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    But no thousands of dollars ;)

  • @LeadingMotive

    @LeadingMotive

    6 жыл бұрын

    Especially after these two videos, prices are up by 200% :)

  • @PaulTheSkeptic

    @PaulTheSkeptic

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's true. Hey wait. I think maybe you're responsible... >:( Lol, Just kidding.

  • @TheJonHolstein

    @TheJonHolstein

    6 жыл бұрын

    the CZ virtual instrument emulations sounds pretty good... and comes with easier interface. But at some point those hardware versions could probably be had for less than the emulation even when there is a sale.

  • @KiR_3d

    @KiR_3d

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, find a kid which parents decided to gift him Casio instead of Moog Prodigy... oh, wait! you need to find a 35-45 year kiddo :D

  • @newking70
    @newking706 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried the Black Corporation Deckard's Dream?

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes but he sounded worst in comparison to the Casio. :)

  • @newking70

    @newking70

    6 жыл бұрын

    wow, for all that $$$$ one would figure it'd be a spot on replica.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    not really

  • @anoopsahal1202
    @anoopsahal12026 жыл бұрын

    It seems all the Casio Family have nice bottoms!

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes absolut

  • @fritagogo1
    @fritagogo16 жыл бұрын

    ;-) cristal stable sound technolgy = casio ...here sampling technic

  • @fritagogo1

    @fritagogo1

    6 жыл бұрын

    i like my old vltone casio ( stollen in train strasbourg/ lyon 1984 ) maybe dadada= tube...

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @SailfishSoundSystem
    @SailfishSoundSystem6 жыл бұрын

    Blade Runner

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @synthland4526
    @synthland4526 Жыл бұрын

    You mean the 50000USD

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    Жыл бұрын

    now yes....:D

  • @electronicexposure
    @electronicexposure6 жыл бұрын

    $200? People around here charge over $400 for justthe cz101. Nevermind the cz1000/3000 etc.

  • @electronicexposure

    @electronicexposure

    6 жыл бұрын

    I really like the cz series though, I model many of my nord modular patches after them and phase distortion.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    really ? than go the prices higher.

  • @fortheloveofnoise

    @fortheloveofnoise

    6 жыл бұрын

    Where? I got my CZ-1 for $300 and $80 shipping. It came with all original manuals,booklets, even the super rare cartridge.(rare because the CZ-1 used a different type of cartridge than all the othe CZ synths.) Anvil carry case, and was in perfect condition. I see the CZ-1s go for around this price and cheaper all the time. The reason the CZ-101 goes for more usually even though way more of this model were made is because it is the minikey small portable version and has no issues fitting in any studio. Where the CZ-1 is a beast and demands your attention and space. Some say the CZ-101 and 1000 sound fatter than the 3000,5000, and 1...but I have never had any but the 1. I will sometime this year get a cz 101 just to see if I notice any difference. The main difference is the 101 (and 1000) are half as powerful as the 3000,5000, and 1. It is more complicated than that but if you wanna compare go read the specs of all models and compare.

  • @ChasD

    @ChasD

    6 жыл бұрын

    The reason that some say that a CZ-1 sounds "thinner" compared with the other models in the CZ range is simple. The CZ-1 is the only CZ model with a velocity and after touch sensitive keyboard. The patches can also be affected by velocity and/ or after touch, affecting many parameters of the patch. In other words, unless you hit the CZ-1 keys with maximum velocity, the patches won't sound exactly the same as the non velocity keyboard CZ's. That's the whole point, the velocity sensitivity adds an extra element of expressiveness to the CZ-1. Bar the velocity, the CZ-1 uses the same sound engine and patch data to build the sound as all the other CZ's, so switch off velocity sensitivity and a CZ-1 will sound exactly the same as an identical patch in a CZ101/ 1000/ 3000/ 5000. Also agree that prices are yet to go that high. I bought my first CZ-1 in the UK in 2010 for 129GBP, plus 20GBP shipping. When I moved to the USA in 2015, I found a better conditioned CZ-1, also with 2 x RA6 Ram cartridges AND RC10 and RC30 ROM cartridges. All for just $180 plus $40 shipping. Prices are on the rise though, and after this video (and the previous Retrosound video making a CZ101 sound like an Oberheim OBXa), values of CZ's will likely rise further!

  • @fortheloveofnoise

    @fortheloveofnoise

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Chas D nice, very lucky find with that CZ-1! By twice as powerful I meant the later CZ models are 16 voice and the older ones are 8 voice. I heard rumors there were two CZ models released for the Japanese market, which were speaker variants of the 3000 and 5000, know anything about that?

  • @joemcginty7
    @joemcginty76 жыл бұрын

    SysEx file please!

  • @UnitedPebbles
    @UnitedPebbles6 жыл бұрын

    Casio stopped making these hobby kit a long time ago? doesn't sell, pay the bills as calculator, stopwatch, and other computers' stuffs??

  • @Juan_Kossov
    @Juan_Kossov6 жыл бұрын

    Arturia CS-80 V3 is cheaper.

  • @soriacx

    @soriacx

    6 жыл бұрын

    The ME80 is even cheaper and said to be quite close to the original. Combined with a Valhalla Vintage for emulation of the 224, it could give you probably the best cost efficient way for replicating the sound. But then it's not hardware, most people seem to despise that they can't twiddle the controls directly, and no, midi controllers don't count. The old discussion "emulation vs original" is as old as emulations exist :-)

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    ;)

  • @TheJonHolstein

    @TheJonHolstein

    6 жыл бұрын

    midi controllers however rarely have an interface that matches the software or the original. (there was the oscar controller, and the System-8 can be used as a controller for the System-8 virtual instrument). There are some overlays for the BCR-2000 for software... however, the interface is a bit cramped, to really be user-friendly. (on the other hand, the memory programmer on the CS-80 was several times worse in terms of cramped layout compared to the BCR-2000, but it had those two voices at proper size on the front).

  • @worborkborflop6989
    @worborkborflop69894 жыл бұрын

    Sounds actually nothing at all like the CS80 in Blade Runner. The Casio CZ is actually capable of sounding like one for that famous lead sound, though.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac6 жыл бұрын

    My V-Synth does that much better.

  • @retrosound72

    @retrosound72

    6 жыл бұрын

    never :D

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