Tip - cover the edges of the veneer face with painter's tape before you apply contact adhesive. You were getting glue on the veneer face after using that foam roller.

Thanks for the great video! I followed it when I veneered my Tritrix speaker build kit. I had good luck using the Gel type contact cement on my wood veneer. Then I used "Seal-A-Cell" from General Finishes as the finish as it gives a nice pop to the grain in the veneer. With "Sea-A-Cell", the oils penetrate to highlight the warm natural look and the urethane ensures a good hard film build. For the wood veneer, I used the Sapele because it gives a lovely brown mahogany color, but it's just a bit more sophisticated looking than plain mahogany.

Nice production value. I'm glad you're enjoying your speakers. You should be proud. Awesome work and thanks for the video.

Another gluing method that works quite well and is easier is to spread wood glue on both surfaces.Use a hard rubber roller so it goes on evenly. After everything's dry use an iron to adhere. It works with a much better degree of control and sicks incredibly well.

@georgemacdonald3087

Жыл бұрын

Don't you read previous comments?

@Joshualbm

Жыл бұрын

@@georgemacdonald3087 I do. But I don't go too far back when I see there are over 200. What a waste of time. Almost as useless as leaving snarky comments that don't actually address the topic. But it took you over 2 years to get here and point out my minor redundancy. Have you been busy annoying other people around the world or is being pedantic a new thing?

Great tutorial. You've given me confidence to tackle my project.

Thanks for making this simple to the point video. Very similar to applying high pressure laminates but a router isn't needed to trim. Only omitted was cutting the driver holes but I see you posted a comment on that.

Must admit the end product looks fantastic. We manufacture and veneer speaker cabinets for a company in the UK using a heated vacuum press as we find it far less tricky than contact glue (especially when using expensive veneers). Great work and cracking video.

The woodworkers glue and iron method mentioned by Remko de Jong in this thread is the best method. No problem with lining it up, unlike with contact adhesive. The thing I would add is to iron the veneer BEFORE applying the woodworkers adhesive to pre-shrink the veneer. This is especially important if you need to make a join because your cabinets are too wide for the width of veneer you have. You would make this join in the middle so that the veneers are symmetrical. If you have to do this, ensure you purchase matching veneers. i.e. veneers cut from the same piece of wood. You flip one veneer sheet over and it should have the same grain pattern as the other one you are making the join to. In this case, you would iron on the two matching veneers up to about an inch before the overlapping join. Once set, (almost instant) cut through both overlapping joins with a very sharp craft knife and straight edge. Remove the bottom piece of waste veneer. Then iron the remaining inch to complete the join. I have cabinets I veneered 50 years ago with this method which are still perfect.

@joshsoorlin579

2 жыл бұрын

i have used iron with wood glue and have gotten bubbles, are u talking abiout a special adheiseive ?

@georgemacdonald3087

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshsoorlin579 Apply wood glue like titebond to both entire surfaces and allow both to dry completely. Then offer up the veneer and iron. The heat regenerates the glue momentarily but cools quickly. No bubbles as long as you don't miss any areas with the glue.

@HashMeister

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't titebond or any similar PVA glue cause the veneer to wrinkle and curl as I have seen in many videos and read online....

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

​​@@HashMeister did this method, the veneer can and will curl a bit but you can just iron it out. I actually used tape (the plastic kind used to tape boxes) to tape the oversize edges on a panel. Those extreme edges wont get glue, but you cut those off anyways the extra glue sits on the tape. It makes it easy to roll on the tape, less messy and less curling. If you match the edge you tape the other parts that you're not matching (2 opposites sides max to match like this). When I didnt tape it curled more obviously, but it also didn't really matter. Dont use paper tape since it could glue to the veneer. Just makes a mess. Edit: I should add I've only done this for small surfaces, like 20 x 30 cm. I have not veneered larger surfaced. Might make a difference although I highly doubt it will.

Great Video! I used the white glue for wood, apply one or two layers on the speaker cabinet and the veneer. Let it dry seperately for about half an hour. Then ask gently the iron of your wife (where you iron your laundry with), DONT TELL WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR!! Set the temp to mid-range and then place the veneer on your speaker cabinet and gently iron your veneer to you speaker. You will notice your glue is melting again, it sort of re-generates. So your veneer is glued/dryed at the same time. Works excelent!

@gustercc

4 жыл бұрын

How long does that last?

@aenima1996

4 жыл бұрын

Hello richard, if you mean how long it lasts to dry; it is during ironing, like ironing your jeans, the glue dries in seconds. Thats the beauty of it, you press, slide and dry... it all happens at the same time. I did this method years ago on my speakers and the veneer looks as day one. No loose edges, nothing. Really sharp and neath..

@gustercc

4 жыл бұрын

Remko de Jong I’m going to have to try this method. However, I wonder how they last if exposed to less heat when compared to the traditional contract cement.

@aenima1996

4 жыл бұрын

Hello richard; you should not expose this white glue to more then 60 degrees when applied (this states the manufacturer of the glue). My speakers are inside my livingroom, but the sun sometimes shines through the window on them and that is no problem at all

@HashMeister

Жыл бұрын

You mean PVA type white glue? Doesn't it cause the veneer to wrinkle and curl as I have seen in many videos and read online....

How did you do the veneer around the speaker whole? I wish I saw that part.

@saiancantin7667

3 жыл бұрын

You veneer over it and flush trim it with a router

@motodork

3 жыл бұрын

@@saiancantin7667 seems like it could have been worth it to show that step.

@OOpSjm

2 жыл бұрын

@@motodork he probably struggled with that one using just a knife 😄

@Phloored

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the driver cutouts are critical. Why no showie ?

These are techniques I still need to learn. Thanks for sharing!!!

Man I wish you showed gluing the sides and cutting/sanding them. Also would have been great to see them finished.

Great video, I wish you showed a little more of the final result.

@mahdiyussuf9804

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed :p

@StewartRoss

4 жыл бұрын

Ditto!

Great video. Nice job. Made it look very straightforward and easily doable if you take your time. Learned a lot. Thanks.

I enjoyed watching it! so easy to do with appropriate tools for furniture

thank you for this video, I'll be using it to help me in my upcoming speaker project.

Looks absolutely beautiful! Great veneer!

That's an awesome improvement! Great video

Very nice, systematically done. Thanks for the video.

Liked and loved your idea of putting wood batons before sticking shhet to the enclosure.

What a great tutorial! Thank you!

Excellent Video Explained the prep and 1st steps perfectly....

dude, again great video. Thanks

Nice job.Congratulations

Looks pretty cool thanks

Very good and complete video! Thank you!

Phenomenal video man !! Thank you

Great video! You are very concise and smart!

Good video. Thanks!

Absolutely great 👍

Nice job!

Dang that looks so good! thanks for this video

very nice and beautifully done veneer thank you

Beautiful!!

Greetings from Gdansk, Poland. Nice job.

Excellent work! Your build is super inspirational! Might have a go at building my own speakers, although I am not DIY gifted by any measure, so I'm expecting bad results

Excellent video - thanks!

Good job 👍 excellent video! Using a router with the appropriate bit also does a great job on the edges although if you are careful a razor blade as suggested can do the trick!

Awesome love seeing young people into DIY i build speakers also it's a great hobby the Tritrix are a popular kit i bet they sound great. And your using a Yamaha CR 1020 that is awesome i have a ultra rare Yamaha CR 3020 but my CR 1020 believe it or not sounds better both have been recapped. Also great video to the point i like that great job !!!!!

Excellent video. I would point out that when deciding which order to place the veneer in, the paper backing tends to be a dark strip. So that is typically why I do the top before I do the front. So when I’m sitting listening to the music I am not looking at the paper strip backing. However I have switched to Roya would Venere and the hot PVA glue method.. It is a little bit more temperamental because the Venere can crack as you were applying heat. But you certainly have a wider selection of veneers to choose from.

great vid!

Nice video. Others showed different glue types that needed pressing. This way seems easier.

how does a sheet of veneer go for like that? Thank you for the tips.

Nice making

Good jop. So useful thanks a lot.

Real solid video

Looks good , need to hear them .

Very helpful and thanks for posting! Would have been good to see how you trimmed for the speaker holes -- because the final result looks great!

@MerwinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Just worked slow with a utility blade. It went from a hexagon to octagon and so forth until it became a clean circle.

Thanks!! great video!!

Great video! Thanks!

Great vid man, thank you!

What does the wiring look like are there snap on terminal connecters for home theater wire?

How did you trim the veneer around the speaker recesses?

wow awesome pal, i hate it when people make stuff like this look so easy lol!!

Great video, very informative. I know I’m a year a so late to the party here, I’m wondering why apply the first coat of contact cement and let it dry then adding a second. What’s the benefit of this technique?

@ryancharles6985

4 жыл бұрын

stronger bond id assume

@researchcapt

2 жыл бұрын

Because some of the first coat will soak into the wood and you want the second coat to go on evenly.

Very interesting!

Great video 😍 tank's bro

Very Nice job, looks great. Do you have a video on how you built the speakers. Thanks for sharing!

@MerwinMusic

5 жыл бұрын

I do! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZN5s65repm_l6g.html

Any tips with dealing with the holes in the speaker?

From ordinary MDF to beautiful!

Great job!! Subbed.

Nice job.

The veneer looks good...It's the best finish.

Nice job ...

what do you do if you get the contact glue on the finish side? will it just come off with the sanding before the stain process. or do you need to get it off with something some kind of cleaner first?

Thanks for the vid, your speakers look good! Tip for you: instead of using a Stanley blade to cut flush, use a “flush trim” bit in a router 👌🏼👍🏼

@squidly1117

2 жыл бұрын

The tweeter opening is very shallow. I bought a flush trim bit and it does not fit.

jeez, great job.

nagyon ügyes vagy, gratulálok

Do we need to fill edges

I have speakers that have a curved edge on the front, they aren't a 90° corner. The veneer will have to bend around this. I'll have to meet the pieces in the front. Any tips to help them join properly and also get my edges straight since I'll have to meet them in the middle in the front and in the middle of the sides.

Love it

, round small wooden dowels work best to support the veneer over your surface. 👍

@ForestBunz

4 жыл бұрын

Wax paper, cut in half. One side, then the other.

@logotrikes

9 ай бұрын

I used 1/16th inch welding rods, lots of 'em...

how did you cut the circles?

Thanks for doing this video! I've never veneer'd before but I'm almost done with this same speaker build. I just have a question regarding when is the right time to do the veneer. Did you put the crossover and all internal components beforehand, I assume you then soldering the remaining connections to the tweeter and 2 woofers, then inserted those, screwed them in, and bam done? Was wondering if you could confirm as I don't want to screw up the order and have to pull it apart

@MerwinMusic

4 жыл бұрын

I would plan out where things will mount, drill your holes and screws and make sure things fit before/while you are assembling. But then I took everything out to veneer and finish.

How to finish holes for speakers?

Thanks for video. I want to veneer some speakers to match my stereo cabinet. But you didn't show the one thing I was looking for... the speaker cutouts on the face. How did you get the round hole a smooth finish? Did you just cut inside a little, trim with your blade like you showed when doing the edge and sand it until smooth? I also have some allen key holes in the corners of my speakers. I'm thinking the same principle. Cut a little hole in the centre, roll up a bit of sandpaper tight and pull it in and out gradually making the hole bigger until they are smooth and round. What's your thoughts?

@MerwinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

I just trimmed in with the utility knife. Basically it went from a hexagon to octagon and so on until it kept getting more and more round. I think in the end I used a circle piece of wood that was the plug from a hole saw to sand it perfect.

Thanks Waldo

How do you cut holes of the veneered spk front ?

how did you cut the holes in the veneer for the drivers?

Great video, I was wondering how do you trim out the holes for your speakers after you put veneer on especially on the inside holes used to flush mount speakers are using.

@MerwinMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Same way as outside. It just starts as a triangle, then square, octagon until it becomes a clean circle.

Hi, I have an old chip board speakers that have a corner damage. Thinking to replace the veneer but Im puzzled how to fixed the corner edges. Can you share some tips?

@MerwinMusic

4 жыл бұрын

I would recommend watching some of Dashner Design & Restoration's videos here on KZread. He does a lot of veneer repair on furniture and it is basically the same process.

@mamuvinyl

4 жыл бұрын

@@MerwinMusic thank you.

Did you let each side fully cure before moving on to the next? It seems like you would need to as you would need to trim off the excess veneer before gluing on an adjacent side. How long did the entire project take?

@MerwinMusic

4 жыл бұрын

You can do one side and then flip it over and do the other side. Then by the time you put the coats on and glue down the veneer you can flip it over and trim the first side. I don't really remember how long it took but I think somewhere in the realm of 4 hours a speaker. Once the veneer goes down it is pretty stuck and you really don't have to wait for it to dry.

Disappointing that you don't show the cutting where two pieces of veneer meet at the corners. That's the difficult part.

you should look into "Milk Shake" for your speakers, It is a Bondo/Resin Mixture and it is used to line the inside to reduce resonance. Love this Video!

Do most local hardware stores stock vaneer sheets like this? I'm having a hard time just finding it.

Would love to see some video about how you handled the corners. My greatest concert is having wonky seams.

Nice. Thanks for this! I would think that trimming the veneer around the speaker holes in the front baffle would be the trickiest part to this. Any tips?

@MerwinMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Just run the razor against the edge the same as the outer edges, you start with kind of a octagon that gets more sides the more you go around until it is flush and circular. I wouldn't say harder, just more time consuming.

@jwbrook

4 жыл бұрын

MerwinMusic OK. I may get up the nerve to do this. Thanks for the encouragement!

@ragnar704

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the speaker have a flange that will help cover the curved edge? At any rate, I always use a very sharp, brand new razor knife, and always cut on the downstroke (towards the speaker, not away from it) to avoid any possibility that the veneer will lift off or tear. Also, sneak up on the final cut. You'll find that if your final cut is only a 1/16" or so, the veneer just slices and curls very obediently away from your desired cut line. If there's any tiny bit left over, you can clean it up with a sand block. Again, I always sand with a downstroke. Good luck with your project!

Hi, thanks for a useful video. May I ask how did you handle the edges ? Did you overlap the pieces ? If so, which part has been overlapped on to the other ? Front ? or side ? Thanks again.

@MerwinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

I start with back, then bottom, sides, top, and then front last. That way your front overlaps everything, top overlaps everything but the front and so on and what you look the most at has the least edges.

Only thing me I'd use the fiberglas less chance of bubbling down the road. Like you said as If you where going to paint it. When doing quality body work they use the fiberglas filler and, using an ultra light weight bondo.

Funny: I came here looking for tips on refinishing the wood veneer on my CR 1020, surprising to see it in the video

Do you have a video of cutting the speaker holes? I am thinking whether or not to free hand that cut, or use a router with a flush cut bit.

Great video ! How did you cut the holes for the drivers ?

Awesome video! Planning on doing this myself, did you use the same trimming technique with a craft knife to cut out the speaker holes?

@MerwinMusic

5 жыл бұрын

yep. Then I followed it up with a disc cut from a piece of wood with a hole saw to sand it smooth.

I ordered a vacuum pump and bag recently for these sorts of things.. Trying to stay away from contact cement and move to urea based adhesive.

Very good....

Hi, great tutorial. One thing that you didn't address is how you cut the holes for the drivers in the veneer. I was personally thinking of veneering the box first and then routing the driver holes, but obviously you did it the other way around. How did you get clean round cuts?

@MerwinMusic

6 жыл бұрын

The holes had a rabbit so the speakers sit flush. So I cut it out the same way with a knife and then used a round scrap of wood to sand the veneer flush to the mdf. The same process as the edges just with a little extra time.

@timschutte8310

5 жыл бұрын

Harlem Wave Cascade , router with flush cut veneer bit holmz, Home Depot has them cheap for a router and or Dremel tool.

Nice CR-1020. I have the CR-620, but am looking to upgrade to either a 1020 or 2020.

@MerwinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

It's killer but I probably should do a cap job on it soon.

Достойная работа, контактный клей для шпона это лучшее!

Great video! Do you mask the veneer that's already glued on when applying cement to adjacent faces, or are you just careful not to get any drips over the edge?

@MerwinMusic

5 жыл бұрын

The contact cement is pretty thick so drips aren't really a problem. After I stuck the glue down and trimmed the edges there were some spots that had squeeze out more than drips. But it kind of looks like the sticky ball that holds gift cards to things, so you can just carefully peel it away by hand or with the knife.

Hi, very good video! Is it posible to use any other glue like loctite?

@MerwinMusic

6 жыл бұрын

I am sure other glue would work but I have no experience using it so I can't say. I think that contact adhesive is definitely the best option.

@AntonioCavicchioni

6 жыл бұрын

MerwinMusic Thank you very much!