Info from technical white paper on epoxy grout. When cleaning the grouted floor, be sure to use plenty of cold water (to prevent quick set up) mixed with a few drops of Dawn dish soap. It is critical to remove all haze immediately. Dawn works well because it contains surfactants that have an affinity to the epoxy resident contained in both the epoxy and the water used to clean up the haze. This allows the haze to bond with the water and wash away easily with a cleanup sponge and microfiber towel. It is extremely difficult to remove haze otherwise. The grout cures unlike cement grout, which can be adversely affected by using too much water. You cannot use too much of this soapy solution cleaning epoxy grout.

I like to tell you that you are very honest and know what you’re doing thanks keep up the good work

Used your video to relieve some of my stress for doing my frist grout, which was an epoxy grout. I was really nervous cause the guys at the shop said it was really hard. There was a plan A and a plan B and so much prep and hard work, even had a partner to hand me things like a physician. Then I began. Added the grout and then BAM. All plans out the window and worked faster than I ever have. This stuff doesn't want to spread and really doesn't come of with the sponge very easily. In the end though, success! With how easy you made this look, I know you are a pro!

@edsc86

3 жыл бұрын

omg the comment I was looking for! I'm going to try it out this weekend! how much epoxy grout did you need and to cover what area (if you remember?)

This was the 3rd video I watched on epoxy grout, should have been the first, so many tips and tricks

Tried the soap trick love it I'll be using epoxy grout more often now

I wish he would reply to the questions. There are some great ones that have gone unanswered. Primarily about how the soap might effect the integrity of the areas you DO want it to stay.

@chriscolameco6850

10 ай бұрын

You’re using too much soap

@MM-lw6ox

10 ай бұрын

@@chriscolameco6850 lol what?

@OldMarius-gn5kk

5 ай бұрын

yhe effect is probably very little.

@9856CB

Ай бұрын

First you rub SOAP into the grout area and then you apply the grout. Why not pour used motor oil into the grout. This makes no sense.

Planning on using some epoxy grout next week for the first time. Thanks for the tips

@edsc86

3 жыл бұрын

how did it work out for you?

Omg i love it! Repair your grout while its chippin out! From a Canadian!! Lol i love it

Right on time Jeff! I was about to fix chipping grout in my bathroom! Great tips as always!

@edsc86

3 жыл бұрын

how did it turn out?

apparently detergent chemicals could play wrong part with applaying grout especialy between tiles .thanks Jeff idea is cool if it works properly without changing grout properties in further use

Great video brother I do that with the Diamond Blade and with a multi tool machine I do that for the restaurant floor and then I put the grout 🎼🎶🎺🇵🇷🌅👍

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

nice to have great tools. Cheers Ramon!

A lot of info and all of it helpful.

Thank you!!!! Going to use this on an tile job in a high traffic, high moisture area in my cabin!

From a professional. Skip the pour soap directly on tile. Soap mixed with epoxy is a terrible idea. If that was the case they would have a part a part C. LOL Try putting the smaller epoxy bucket in a larger bucket of ice next time. Doubles if not triples working time and clean up is the same finishing with a drag of wet micro cloth dipped in soapy water. Much Much larger areas can be done and you don't have to rush. Just not a fan of misinformation

@jessgvirtual5822

2 жыл бұрын

Ice or cold water....VALUABLE ADVISE!👌👍

Hey Gary - I relabeled all my Mom’s spice containers, I’m not in trouble yet but the thyme is cumin #cheers

@alexill

5 жыл бұрын

More people are calling you Gary now lol!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

It is starting to stick, # gary!

I was laughing out loud when you said because the floor was not laid following with my video discussion!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

LOL< I guess I got you right at the proper moment. Cheers!

I really enjoy your videos and how you explain what you are doing.

Thank you for this video. It is potentially saving me about 800-1.5k because locally the standard is very sub-standard in construction with their bathroom grouting! 😭

Jeff I've tried epoxy grout before, that was about nine years ago and it was a nightmare. The grout started drying way too fast and it was hard to clean. The bucket you mixed there, about how much working time do you get before it becomes to sticky to spread? Thank you in advance.

hey jeff, i just joined and have a question about this video. is this method of grout removal ( the V shape into grout ) sufficient for regrouting a tile shower floor or should old grout be removed completely before new epoxy grout?

@Joe.Hebrews

Жыл бұрын

6:52 I hope this helps.

Really enjoy your video. Want to ask if using the same epoxy grout in your video (Mapei Kerapoxy), how deep do I have to remove the old grout before putting the Kerapoxy on top? I want to do this on a shower floor. I’m concerned if I don’t remove enough of the old grout, the kerapoxy may crack or crumble out when multiple adults stand on the floor. Thanks!

Great work Jeff. do we use same soap technique even on freshly laid tiles where there is no grout at all? Thanks.

What about the soap in the area where you are applying the epoxie grout -doesn’t this reduce the ability of the grout integrity?

@YoungGunzTy

2 жыл бұрын

Same question

@alexisgagnon2946

2 жыл бұрын

My ceramic guy told me to never use any soap or anything else when mixing cement or epoxy

You’re truly enjoyable to watch. Very personable, easy to understand and concise. Subscribed!

Thank you for the video. Does it turn black like the grout I have now?

how does the detergent not effect the epoxy curing ?

You are a life saver I having this problem in a newly renovated kitchen and the tiler just went I dunno😮

This is the first of your videos I've seen and had to check how many subs you have. Yep, just as I thought.

Great tip with wetting the floor first never done that before and I had a very hard time removing it one time. One thing I’d say is always always wear gloves with epoxy grout. I used bare hands and I had epoxy burn for 1 week.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

that happens for folks who don't grout a lot for a living. Cheers!

@orisisseibert3507

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessary wetting the floor... If you use a power saw to cut cement board (Durock or Hardie Backer) the dust will clog pores. Hardie backer has dust on it from the factory. A wet mixed thinset can help resolve this problem, (wet mortar causes problems on walls.) Not much experience with epoxy as a mortar, but i know the surface needs to be dry.

Hey Jeff. How would you apply the soap trick on a 2" mosaic tile floor? My concern is keeping the soap out of all of the closely spaced grout lines. Thanks!

@jokermtb

2 жыл бұрын

yes, i'm curious too for my 2" mosaic tile floor. Might be able to use a dedicated 'dish soap' sponge (applied with dish soap) to wipe down the 2" mosaic tiles easily? thoughts?

@user-rw9gi5dq1b

2 жыл бұрын

Small paint brush and patience

How does the epoxy grout bond properly with the dish soap barrier?

Does the dish soap mess with the bonding?

Thank you so much! Groutzilla is closed due to our pandemic. So, I'm going to give it a go! I love your secret, it works for other things too!

@jonah1821

3 жыл бұрын

Did it work for you? Dishsoap and all?

@edsc86

3 жыл бұрын

how did it work out for you?

I used this same method in my kitchen, but instead of epoxy I just used plain water. And instead of porcelain tiles, I used porcelain plates, some knives and forks. Works well.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

personally I would have used spoons instead or forks. but to each their own.

Can you change a colour of the grout once it;s dry? I would like to make it darker but i don't know how to do it. Thanks in advance

Hi Jeff like your videos I have a stand up shower with tile all around on the edges of the floor shower it has a hard grout or caulk I want to regrout the edges only do I caulk it or grout it floor base seams

Next week I want to do 1800 sf of epoxy grout,I will try your technique.Thanks for now.

JeffWould shellac on plywood floor before tiling. Be better than wetting it ..or both ...im hammering out my bathroom. Floor tile and cement bed.... Will get either a rotary hammer or grinder with mason blade. grinder will have more uses. Cheers!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Hi vinny, screwing down cement board works well , so does installing schluter. or just simply wet the plywood and go. But not the osb, it has to be a good 1 side plywood. Cheers!

@vinnylenci7311

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff thank you so much for the reply! I will try to upload something on KZread ! 😆 will be unedited.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Very cool Vinny, looking forward to it! Cheers!

Hi, I would love to use this on a pebble stone shower floor as well as the walls. How would I treat the grout around the pebble stone first? Do I still remove the grout?

Do I use an epoxy grout or sanded grout to regroup a river rock shower floor?

You've saved me so much money. Thanks!

Always appreciate the tips & tricks you share with us. Have used this trick before, & do like using Mapei products👍🏻

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Aepek, One of y favourite products to work with!

doesn't the dish soap affect the epoxy grout in anyway?

Your awesome!! Thank you for saving me time and money!!!

I'd replace that floor with that deflection you showed us. Even epoxy will crack there. Band aid solution. Subfloor and plywood under layment total thickness of 1.25" and 1/8" Schluter Ditra on top of the plywood underlayment. Never had a failure with this method.

@jeremylunning654

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

4:50 epoxy doesn't set with air

The soap you just put all over and got into the grout lines won’t negatively effect the bonding of the epoxy grout?

@jungleboiyt

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they would answer questions, like they mention they do in the video. This question you asked is very important, and I was going to ask the very same thing. Wallah... first question I come to here!... yet unanswered, a month after you asked it :(

@xenonram

4 жыл бұрын

@@jungleboiyt viola*

@awwadsadi5212

4 жыл бұрын

Warm soapy water should be used to clean the excess epoxy grout. Other types of epoxy tile grout could be used that is modified to be easily cleaned and applied, I personally use Weber.epox easy

@davidsterling1363

4 жыл бұрын

If you google epoxy grout dish soap you will find a technical white paper put out by custom building products. The file name is "epoxy_grout_wp102.pdf". They specifically talk about using Dawn as a release agent. Plus some tips on extending pot life. (freezer, small clumps etc) Don't get too stuck in the weeds about epoxy grout bonding if its a new tile job. You are basically packing glue that turns into a rock in your grout lines. If you are regrouting with some tiny thin grout lines then you might have issues and need to be a bit more judicious with the soap. Do NOT let the water just dry on your tile. They glue remnants are suspended in the water. Go buy a pack of paper towels and dry it off. Your tile should feel like a brand new tile. If it doesnt then rewash and rewash until it does. You cant overwater an epoxy grout joint. Just be careful of scrubbing the lines, they will stay soft and you can damage them. I am not a professional just someone who has used it before and seen the pitfalls and found solutions (read: others solutions on the web) that worked.

@sarz747

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidsterling1363 thanks for these tips and lso for the ech.white paper reference about Dawn

Is this good for kitchen tiles ?

The dishwashing detergent doesn't interfere with the cure?

@GoingShirtless

3 жыл бұрын

Started reading the comments exactly for an answer to this. Hope it comes.

Jeff, that soap trick is magic! Tell me, I’ve seen conflicting information about how long to wait before setting in my sink after using Kerapoxy on my new tile counter. Thoughts?

We have just got epoxy here in Australia and can't wait to use it after seeing your video. Thanks for sharing.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers paul!

@xenonram

4 жыл бұрын

You're telling me that, just because you're in Australia, you're 30 years behind the times and just got epoxy grout. Maybe you just heard about it.

I use soap and water mixed on the soapy side and then coat surfaces I want to keep protected when pouring concrete . I just soap surfaces with a brush and let dry and then the splatter of concrete I let dry and then when its dry it brushes right off because of the barrier it creates.

I never seen or heard of anyone using dish detergent Thanks for that tip

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

Doesn't the soap prevent it from sticking to the existing grout too?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Only if you fill the grout lines with it.

@stonee1968

5 жыл бұрын

I hear you...the video looked like you wiped it over all the surfaces - I assumed that there would be a fair amount getting on the grout lines.

So I've been renovating my bathroom. And your videos have been INVALUABLE, so thanks for that first. Now the question: I didn't know the difference between sanded and unsanded grout until right now. So I've used an UNsanded grout on my floor now. The gaps are small 1/8th inch and i've installed it on cement board that's screwed and mortared to the subfloor so it should be stable... i think. IS there a risk that the grout will crack in the short term?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

That all depends on the tile size the product you used to install the temp and how clean it was and if you used water before installing the tile and what kind of deflection you will get. In short maybe. If it does grab some epoxy and it will be a thing of the past. Cheers!

That is great advice yet again. Thank you very much.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Salty Sea!

Thanks Jeff. another great video. Would you have any tips for grouting imitation tumbled edge tiles? Mine butt up to one another, but the grout keeps cracking (on a screed floor) and crumbling.

Hi Jeff, I have enjoyed all of your videos and straight forward approach to doing the home improvement work yourself. Your channel helped me get through 2020 as Ibecame interested in comparing your experiences and tweaks compared to my experiences I've gained being a GC in CA. I'm the last Contractor in a 75 year family business with zero complaints on our work my family has done in the commercial and residential business. One question on this epoxy tweak of yours that I never knew about till now is, does it work with pebble floors in showers with their narrow to super wide grouted areas? 2nd question, do you advise using your hand as per the video to lightly smear the liquid soap or would using a sponge, towel or other device be better to use to evenly lightly spread the liquid soap? My concern is lessening the chance of the liquid soap weeping into the grout lines, but maybe this concern is misplaced after reading your replies to previous posts. Please let me know. Thank you again, or as they say in Canada,"cheers."

I am wondering if it is a tile problem too instead of installation problem. I have exact the same tiles and same issues with regular grout

You make it look so easy man, thanks...

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Edward, epoxy grout is actually this easy. It is only difficult if you don't use the soap. Cheers!

Jeff - what about exterior/interior non slip tiles with epoxy ? Better to use a "gun" system where the bond and the grout are combined at application?

Another great video. Thanks Jeff.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Larry, Cheers!

I have hardwood floors and noticed a couple gaps, what can I use in between?

@TheGibby13

5 жыл бұрын

Very fine grit saw dust and a adhesive to make a paste, then fill the gaps that way

We are installing a ceramic tile backsplash in kitchen (brick face-sized) using Epoxy Elite EPO which it says works both as adhesive and grout, ordered on-line from Home Depot. Can the mixed product be preserved? The 11 lb can says 60 minutes, but seems a bit vague. It says "mixture life 60 minutes". Does that mean all must be used up in 60 minutes, or just that it will harden to surface on 60 minutes and the rest can be preserved in an airtight container?

Hi, can I use epoxy grout at color (grey) to replace the white cement (or tile adhesive ... I don t know what it is) that the contractor placed where tiles were cut to accommodate the pipes coming from the floor. there is about 4-5 cm gap filled with "cement"

"To minimize epoxy haze, wipe the tile down with a solution of water and a few drops of Dawn® dish soap prior to grouting. This solution acts as a grout release to help prevent resin from sticking to dry tile, thereby making it easier to fill the grout joints and minimizing the residue on the face of the tile. The use of a microfiber towel to remove the final grout film during clean-up will greatly reduce the amount of haze. "

@drunkboomer7772

2 жыл бұрын

ty Wendy. Someone actually knows. But keeping the grout ice cold in a bucket of ice is the real key. Kind of surprised to see the host does not know that.

Does the expoxy grout help solve the movement in that tile?

Jeff does that soap trick work on colored epoxy grout? Thanks in advance

I did this today, using the soap...it definitely sped the job up...but...I used a dark grey epoxy and the soap turned into soapy/bubbly water...the bubbles have left small slightly white patches in the joint. Not enough for me to not recommend the technique though...but I wouldnt use the soap on another dark/black grout.... Great tips man, keep it up!! 👍👍👍

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

4 жыл бұрын

Great job! perhaps a little less soap next time and a dry area to work on. Cheers!

Hi Jeff, I have a fine sandstone shower floor (porous initially but well sealed now) I want to use epoxy /kerapoxy for endurance and water proofing but the surface is naturally split / riven. How do I ensure I can get the grout off the tiles afterwards? It was hard enough getting keracolour off riven slate tiles. It looks easy on a polished surface but textured.. something a whole lot more daunting!

thank you this is interesting trick but the fact that soap prevent the epoxy from sticking the the face of the tile which makes cleaning easy also works against us because it will do the same thing to the grout line and prevent adhesion because its very hard to not get any soap inside the groutlines once you start grouting

@2112jonr

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, this potential problem isn't addressed, despite several questions about it. How does the soap affect the ability of the grout to stick inside the grout lines Jeff? This is obviously a concern to may of us.

@h.n.3399

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about the same.

@hamidghazialam3604

Жыл бұрын

Jeff, are you sure the soap trick works? Will the epoxy bond to the grout lines once fully cured?

Thanks for that, I am guessing the wall process to take out the old grout and adding new grout is the same ( with your method for applying at 45 degrees) Thanks again for all the content!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

You got it Simon. Cheers!

Thank you for this

Hi Jeff! Can you use this epoxy grout for the floors of a shower stall that have cracked grout?

@levelseven9841

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you were asking this question a year in advanced. Cause he still hasn't replied. Hm

@doublepoil

2 жыл бұрын

Cracked grout line means there's movement, nothing stops you from regrouting, but it won't solve the original problem. If you're talking about an inside corner crack, that's because grout never belong there

@Chanmantroop10

Жыл бұрын

@@doublepoil grout can crack for various reasons and isn't caused just from movement. Improperly installed or mixed grout can cause it to be weak and crack prematurely ie mixed wrong or not packed all the way in the joint

Surely the soap gets into the epoxy that you scrape off. I have always grouted with a gloved finger and wiped with a damp cloth as I go. Can I do this with the epoxy grouts or will it ruin my nitrile glove or my finger??

@user-qu3us9fv2t

3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering too. Did you try it?

Top g

nice, but doesn't the soap mix in with the grout? I do a similar thing when applying silicon.

@sebastiaanl9876

3 ай бұрын

If you do that silicon edges wil not last long

Ratio of A to B is 9:1 ,if you use a digital scale, you do a small batch

Great job😎

Also, you said there is a special grout for doing tiles with 16th inch grout lines. I am redoing the grout in such tiles and would like to know what type of grout to use? Finally, when I redo the tile corner or tile to expoxy shower pan, I think I saw in one of your videos that you would regrout these joints and then finish over with a bead of silicone. Is that correct? I see some who just use only the silicone bead in these joints.

I just installed a 2 inch hex tile in my bathroom. Will it matter if the soap gets in the grout lines?

hi, awesome tutorial. can I use the epoxy grout for bathroom wall?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

It can be used anywhere. It is awesome. Cheers!

Everything seem nice but i have how much time before that epoxy in the bucket dry?

What if the dish soap mixes with the epoxy grout?

Great video! I feel confident my grout job in the shower will be....at least C+ work. Wish me luck.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

You got this! I am already giving you a b+ just because you will care.

I am putting in 12x24 inch ceramic tile in a shower. It is large about 75sqft. Will the soap (I assume Dawn) work on a wall? I want to use grout that does not get black mold over time and is less work to keep clean. No one ever seems to wipe down the walls after a shower?? Your thoughts PLEASE.

Hello Jeff. I just watched your new epoxy grout tip video. Question if you put the dish soap on the floor then pick up the excess would the soap affect the epoxy grout that is placed back into the bucket?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc, if you are concerned then use less at once and discard it upon removing from the floor. I have been using this system for years and it works with no side effects. Cheers!

Hi Jeff, just viewed your tutorial. Great video. I've never used epoxy grout so like many others this is new to me. I do have some questions: 1) does the unused portion grout harden if not used can it be reused the next day to continue the job. 2) Can small portions of the grout and epoxy be mixed and used instead of mixing the entire contents. Getting ready to repair/replace the grout on my home floor therefore any feedback is appreciated. Any comments from viewers that have used this product also welcomed. Thanks.

@Watcher89-wp6gb

5 ай бұрын

1) No, once it's set it naturally can't be re-used. 2) yes, but you have to be very, very, very careful to maintain the exact same hardner to epoxy ratio

@rickdeleon6489

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff, appreciate your reply and feedback. Thank You,@@Watcher89-wp6gb

Can you use the dish soap trick when regrouting walls?

That v groove is all you need to add new grout? I get epoxy can be added onto existing grout and doesn't need as much depth in the joint as traditional cement based grout but just making sure. Also the v groove grout rake seems like it would've scrape the sides of the tiles once you get to a certain depth.... Causing chips

Love the channel< always good information. Idea for a new video, installing an epoxy floor. Im about to start a 3000Sqft installion in a property I own and was hoping to pick up tips from a true tradesman, I will now sadly have to wade through the KZread hacks instead.

Will white epoxy stain over time ?

I'm thinking about epoxying my shower walls. Can this be used to "float" the shower tiles/walls?

@mattjudy6780

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Float as in how you float with dry pack mud?

Do you use concentrated right-from-the-bottle dishwashing liquid or you add water to it?

Hi Jeff. The inexperienced me has made a mess out of the grout lines. Even after I used detergent, there still seems to be epoxy residue on the tiles. How do I get rid of the epoxy residue on the tiles after it has cured?

I’m going to use this on a pebble stone tile entry way with slate for the rest of the floor. I have wooden floors but I’ll be giving the wood a drink before I put my ditra down. Not too much deflection- like your old house I have 2x4 planks running diagonal across the joists. My floor is stiffer than rot gut whisky. Any tips other tips on sealers or anything else I can do to make this job go well?

Does the soap affects the epoxy grout strength or performance? I'm guessing there is no need for sealer on this type of grout? I've never used the epoxy grout yet, but have used the epoxy "thinset" on a Tileready shower pan. I'll bet the epoxy thinset combined with epoxy grout makes a great waterproof shower. I really enjoy your videos.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

5 жыл бұрын

the soap should only be applied to the tile. it works like a charm. no need for any kind of epoxy thinset. that would just be a waste of time and money!

@turbodave231

5 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY The epoxy thinset was part of the prefab shower pan kit.

What is you opinion of the goboard shower pan system?

This is textbook on exactly what you shouldn't do, you must have a dry joint and contact area per ansi and tcna standards, you can use soapy water but only after you've applied the grout to the joint, doing it this way will created pockets of failed adhesion and ultimately result in failure down the line, this would never fly if you got inspected

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

3 жыл бұрын

I love how guys always know the book but have no practical experience cHEERS ! tHIS WORKS!

@dperez1302

3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY been doing this everyday for 6 years man, and everything I learned I learned from old farts with at least 30 years of experience, tile is how I feed my family, but I don't need to prove my experience to some doofus on the internet that claims to know it all

@chuncham1

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt he is a Mapei certified installer. That is the problem, everybody can expert and experience. Putting soap, soapy water or water into the grout line just before you apply the grout is, at best weaken the bond. This video author has taken too much liberty or creativity on the soap, which was meant for clean up only.

@dperez1302

3 жыл бұрын

@@chuncham1 that much is true, however whenever possible you should avoid weakening the bond between your substrates, and there's is no real way to know how far it's being weakened given how many variables there are, it's far better and safer to simply wipe on a grout release prior to installation

Outstanding tutorial Sir. I'm attempting to revive my 60 year old kitchen tile and thought, erroneously, that painting was the solution - it is not. Before I found your video I was influenced by other YT videos that recommended the paint method. So I spent a bank and bought all the materials and began applying it to a sample area. I quickly realized the paint didn't adhere well and the result looked like ass - pardon my French. I know this is an older video but do you still recommend this method for renewing old grout, or is their a more efficient and effective one? Some people on the inter-web are using an epoxy grout with caulking gun which, on the surface, looks like a cleaner application process. Your thoughts? Semper Fidelis, Ken USMC (retired)