You should bring in a few chickens in to wander around under foot when you assemble that. Ambiance is everything.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I like the way you think. Haha.

@Ross046

Жыл бұрын

Double rollers got used in some applications. My Motor Home 440 had/has one.

My statement is for all the haters out there. If you don't like the way he does things click off his channel and Kick Rocks better than that get your own channel and put your point of view on video. I DARE you.

I always learn so much from watching your videos. It confirms a lot of what I've always believed watching good shadetree mechanics building engines without having a machine shop at their disposal. Somehow things seemed to work out well regardless. I also agree about the kibutzers. Everybody is an expert and nothing you do is right, and that applies to everything from body work to engines to cameras (one of my things) to even how I plant my flower bulbs. Wrong wrong wong and I'm going to hell for not seeking their advice and doing it their way. Except for the slight problem where they don't pay my bills and don't get a vote in how I do things.

You've got the right idea (you didn't need me to tell you,lol). The engine "experts" will almost ALWAYS tell you you CAN'T. My engine machinist here in Alabama is age 82 & built race engines for NASCAR star Bobby Allison. I learned to make up some "lingo" required with every job i give him, like "How far in the hole is it ?" (#1 piston at TDC, usually .050 on the smog era RB engines.BTW...those #452 heads,with mild porting are excellent street/strip.

Mechanics in Cuba have been doing what you're doing for ages and ages now, keeping old engines going with little other than what they have at their immediate disposal. Reusing everything they can. It'll be just fine. 😀

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

I totally get all that you are doing. My 72 Charger has a rebuilt winnebago 440 with a mild cam and that same intake you showed and it does better than fine.

11 years ago I bought a bunch of low low miles Itasca motorhomes with 440's in them. Everybody told me I was crazy giving 500-1000 dollars for these motorhomes that nobody would want even if I di fix them up. Within 3 years they were gutted. I now have a very awesome 45' container that I dub the displacement museum. We have come up with all sorts of things to get people scratching their heads. I have a 1981 chevy caprice with a 440 in it.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic! I love a good motorhome 440. I was scoring them already pulled for $200-300 for years. I actually just found a motorhome donor myself today! It’s at the junkyard, and it’s kind of amazing because the yard said they’d only take it if the body was fully stripped… so the people did that, but it still has rusty steel framework in the shape of a motorhome body. I think it’s going to become a ramp truck.

Hey, just a warning. If that is a "Marine" engine, it's going to eat a lot of crayons!!!!! Buy the boxes of 64, saves you from having to stop at the store so often.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

🤯🤣🤣

Just my type. Bargain basement engine refresh not a rebuild but a refresh. Let's get'er done

Love it man. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Looks cool cant wait for the build the charger looks great !

This episode was so good I had to watch it again.

a marine gas engine is basically an automotive engine so bring it back to its origins is not difficult, just choose the right parts.

I enjoy your content keep them coming 👍👍👍

love it - I build them just the same! 👍🏼

And that camp shaft is better than anything made by competition camp today I'll guarantee you that's her

Uncle Tony needs to rent together about this stuff because he has the same idea here and so did the rest of us do it in a garage or right there with you

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. I’ve learned so much from Uncle Tony.

Cool video! Actually those M440 engines used the 440 Six Pack Magnum cam grind that had the 3 bolt drive gear and low taper lifters. I had a couple for the standard rotation engines (Left Hand or CCW). When you talk about boat or Marine engines the direction the engine rotates is viewed from the flywheel side. It would be opposite looking at the front. So on a standard rotation engine which is LH or CCW at the flywheel, the pulleys and belts turn CW viewed from the front. I had a chance to get an NOS steel marine crank once. It was nice, probably just a level below a 6bbl crank.

Marine engines are usually high nickel, extra thick castings which is nice, however I highly suggest staying away from any used marine engine that were ran in salt water, only buy/use ones that had a closed loop cooling system (meaning it had regular coolant in the engine that is cooled with a external heat exchanger that is salt water cooled) or ones ran in fresh water only. Ones that have been used in salt water have a bad habit of having severe rust in the water passages and usually all the water ports get pitted really badly on the surfaces which can cause leaks and issues in the future, also a lot of the bolt holes and threads will usually get Soo rusty that you'll have to chase all the threads in the block and have to usually repair several holes as well. Also look any used marine engine over for freeze cracks, that is very common to find as well.

@DeadDodgeGarage

11 ай бұрын

Yep. This one came with the closed cooking system heat exchanger tank still attached, or we wouldn’t be here… even so, it pretty obviously ate some water at one point or another, and the outside of the block is just awful in places.

Entertained ✓ Amused ✓ Dream BIG Bark Loud , Love It 👍

Beware of a reverse knurl on the rear seal contact area of the crank.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I brought attention to that in the video. This crank is smooth in that area.

@rodneybyrd9516

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage Good deal! I've seen normal rotation engines with reverse ground cams and gear drives, reverse rotation engines with normal rotation cams and gear drives. Boats are wierd, also RVs sometimes.

We love ya, Jamie. Pay no attention to the haters hiding behind their online accounts. Do hide if they show up at your place. That’s creepy.

The internet/comment section experts, while they may be very capable builders, probably have a garage queen build that will never see the light of day. They'll talk a huge game among the public and at meets or shows, but the build will always be "not ready for the street. I'm not going to put it on the road until it's ready." Meanwhile, people like you and me will be out enjoying ourselves driving around in "jalopies". Also, it's just typical gate keeping by them. Make it sound so difficult, that only the very smartest can enjoy putting engines, etc. together.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

*Exactly*! The tongue lashing I got in the comments absolutely had that gate keeping, I-know-everything vibe. And the thing is, I know he was right. I told him he was right. But the insufferable attitude. He literally told me to stop making videos and go to school.🤣 I tell everyone that I am untrained, merely somewhat experienced.

looks good to me! 😊

Preach it brotha!

Ratty engine Ratty car Its a match made in heaven !!! Lovin every minute !

Dead Dodge Garage= Cant Get Right!! ahahah, love it. Keep up the good work

Being resourceful.

Ah, Comp Cams. Thats why I put an Isky E-4 cam in my 273. I trust Isky.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Comp, or as Rooster likes to say, “the Walmart of camshafts.”

@LongIslandMopars

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage Doh!!!

I'm going to rebuild the 318 at home, in the garage, with as little professional machine shop interaction as possible so this video (and some others in the genre) have my interest. But I am going to clean everything several times. And then once more to be sure

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. The extensive cleaning is absolutely essential to success.

Fuel pump looks like the Carter from the Direct Connection catalog.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

It also looks just like the one I saw on a hemi last summer - just not sure that it’s the same or not the same.

Well said my friend. Being picked on by people on here is crap. As I told you it's why I shut off the comments on my videos and stopped putting content up. As well as removing tons of cool stuff. 48yrs of building engines and none ever blew up so I don't know anything compared to some clown that has nothing in his garage and mine is full plus sheds full of coolness. When people go low go high and rise above the crap. Build what you want and run what ya brung. Practice makes perfect and like you said if it don't work you learned something. 😊

I think you are pretty Kool.

Closed my eyes when you went to the cam bearings, don't put that bad juju on me Mr!!! I learned a long time ago in LS land that we don't look at those 😅😂

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Bingo!! 😂

Reverse rotation cranks are ground in the opposite direction and the real seal knurling is typically opposite. I think it would work fine for my purposes.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Ground opposite? Interesting. I knew about the knurling and did mention it in the video. This crank had no knurling whatsoever, which is almost more interesting. Engine’s machine shop trip should be over in the next week or two (I found very deep scratches in cylinder 6 or 8.)

😄I always enjoy your humor.... I do have a serious question though. Did you remove a water pump and housing from this engine and if so, what differences did you see from a normal clockwise pump?? I ask because I've always wanted to use a reverse running water pump so I can use the space of the fuel pump for an A/C compressor and keep the alternator where it belongs and NOT have to deal with an extra idler for the belt.. Serpentine belt, preferably...

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’m not using that housing so I didn’t bother removing the pump. I actually hadn’t thought of that! It must be a reverse rotation pump as it was driven conventionally off of the crank. There was also an external pump for moving raw water through a heat exchanger, which also would have been reverse rotation.

I can see now why building a 440 or bigger with proper ahem [Indy] heads that can flow over 335cfm can be so expensive...but I did see they offer brand new Iron LA heads complete for $1150 each. 2.02/1.60 with .525 lift springs and the rest isn't too bad.

@DeadDodgeGarage

4 ай бұрын

I wasn’t aware there were new iron heads available. That’s interesting.

Can you tell me what head gasket works the best for a 66 383 and the pistons have no valve reliefs and they also sit down a bit at top dead center with 346 heads that have been rebuilt? I’ve looked everywhere and there seems to be a bunch of different thickness gaskets?

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yes there are. Thinnest head gasket, highest compression ratio possible. I can’t tell you what is best for your setup. I have never used any head gasket on a classic Mopar engine but the standard rebuilder Felpro gasket. For the kinds of builds I do, it just doesn’t matter that much.

@mikesr3407

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage I knew I'd have few regrets subbing to your channel. Quick answers to questions and a guy is on his way to getting his ride moving again !

Good enough!

@DeadDodgeGarage

4 ай бұрын

My favorite!

Since the cam spins the opposite way on this marine application, are the drive gears cut reverse too? The distributor/oil pump drive spins in a way that forces the cam to the rear of the engine. Thrust surfaces are on the block and the back side of the cam drive gear. Just curious if the gear drive is cut different to keep the rearward force on the cam.

@DeadDodgeGarage

6 ай бұрын

I’m sure they are, but now that I’m thinking about it, I never checked.

@thomasfisher2879

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. If you do happen to find the oil pump drive gear laying around,,, I'd be interested in your findings.

Have you ever had any luck with new lifters on a used cam? Ive always been too chicken to try.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’m about to try it, twice 😬 so we’ll see how that goes…

I have 7 pistons and 6 rods for ya. Not enough glue to put no 8 back together. Chrysler marine used double roller 3 bolt. I have 3 of them 440's. One is kinda broke in a few places. Blew the starter off the bell housing.😮

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Ok, I figured it must be standard equipment given the special nature of the camshaft. Funny that these engines seem to come in threes, as that’s also how many I had. Oooohhh that’s not ideal… I’m going to try to come up with a matched set. We may just get new pistons and have the assembly balanced. It would be nice.

I would build it the same way you are perfectly fine for a daily driver if it ain't broke don't fix it it will work just fine

I want your reverse rotation camshaft if you still have it

@DeadDodgeGarage

5 ай бұрын

I do - and all of the other marine parts, too. Hopefully someone wants them some day. DeadDodgeGarage@gmail.com

A small block distributor being used on a reverse rotation 440? An early hemi 331-392 would be more likely if a spacer is involved. Both are for made for clockwise distributor rotation. The "early hemi" has a longer shaft going to the oil drive. The small block would need the shaft extended to reach lower.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

My understanding was that the 50s Hemi distributor is not much longer than LA - like 1/8”-1/4” or something - but I’ve never had a chance to compare the two. It was a cast iron body.

@auteurfiddler8706

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage The difference is about an inch. I had one of each sitting in the same box. I'll have to put a big block distributor next to them to do a three way comparison.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@auteurfiddler8706 interesting. Yes, this would be great information. I would say that the spacer in the big block to accommodate the other distributor was about half an inch taller. I don't think it would be a big deal to install the RB distributor shaft into a clockwise distributor, but I'm guessing using a spacer and an off-the-shelf part was cheaper and easier for the marine conversion company.

@auteurfiddler8706

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage Spacers are sold to allow a 440 distributor to be used in a 383/400. The spacer is a stepped cylinder that goes above the 400 block beneath the bottom of the round part of the 440 distributor. I saw a video where a guy was working with a reverse rotation engine and the timing was getting way off. It seems the reverse rotation distributor had a screw on bottom piece. As the engine rotated it tightened. But he converted it to clockwise rotation and now , after the conversion, the normal rotation was making it unscrew, messing up the spark timing.

wouldn't the oil pump be different as well or did you mention it

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I actually hadn’t even thought of that so didn’t mention it, but I’m not using anyway. It has external oil cooler lines I don’t need so it went right on the pile.

There is probably some old-timey saying along the lines of "Blank the naysayers". Feel free to modify that. It wouldn't matter if you were making ice cream or polishing bowling balls. Well meaning trolls are still trolls. I don't always watch your uploads to learn, but when I do, I'm also entertained.

Factory Service Manual has specifications, spiffy clean & within specs?- go have fun!

For some people "perfect is good enough," for others, "good enough is perfect. You cant please everyone.

Hell I get told that shit in real time

Mopar and Studebaker my kind of shop

I still remember when I realized that I didn't know everything. Damn.

68 2nd Gen love the 69 general Lee it's Mopar or no car big block or go home ha ha

If you get water in your motor you need water B Gone by ronco 😮

Whatever you do in life some dough heads gonna moan - my advise is select the deaf settings on your ears and set to total silence

I like the color on that champagne

Everyone on the internet is some multimillionaire, world renowned builder with 250+ years of experience. Survey says... real world they can't change their own oil and couldn't tell a turbo from an a/c compressor. It's why I don't bother doing videos or post in Facebook groups. I don't need to fight with idiots lol

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much what you just said 😅 but really I think the reality is somewhere in the middle. There are lots and lots of people who have half a clue… and they need me help sometimes.

hello my name is Charlesi would like to ask if you can help me with my 440 i am using a 8 71 blower and i need to know[ DO I ADD A VALLY PAN OR NOT USE A VALLET PAN WITH THE BLOWER INTAKE]??? I CANT FIND INFO ON THAT CAN YOU HELP ME THANKYOU

@DeadDodgeGarage

2 күн бұрын

If it covers the area the pan went and screws where the pan screwed, you probably don’t use one. There would probably be a special gasket you need to use, not unlike the max wedge gasket (but not the max wedge gasket.)

@charlesc8982

2 күн бұрын

@@DeadDodgeGarage ok thank you very much

Though nothing that most people may have missed in your previous videos when you mention you used to build engines professionally and a professional clean shop and all that so you know what you can get away with versus what you can't and you learned it by screwing up not by reading somebody's book that they wrote and hoping they were right like these young people do which is horrible at least you're not scraping these cars out on Facebook marketplace for a 150 bucks😅😅

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Oh knowing what you can get away with is an art. That’s a really important part of this. Haha.

If you.still have any of those boat parts I'll buy them. Trying to find these isn't cheap....lol.

@DeadDodgeGarage

8 ай бұрын

I have all of it… I’ve heard the stuff is pretty valuable. Email me at jamienoise@gmail.com

Well than when do you want me to come pick up all your mopars😉

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Best bring your checkbook and it best be fat 😃

👍🏻💯🇦🇺⛽️

You left off one last component of this whole "trolls gonna troll" stuff, Jamie - and it's probably THE most common annoyance in all this YT comment-commando phenomenon: *Every damn YT "content provider" complains about the guttersnipe comments posted to their videos* . Every. Damn. One..... It'd actually be refreshing to see a YT channel simply say something like "eff off if you don't like it". Acknowledge, then move on.....because talking about idiotic comments isn't entertaining for anyone. Hell with them - on with the show! - Ed on the Ridge

@DeadDodgeGarage

5 ай бұрын

Oh I do that in the comments all the time. Haha. “Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out” is usually my favorite. But I wouldn’t say that on camera.

Nah.... you ain't gonna piss me off ? Why would it piss any body off ? Garbage in = garbage out... all you are gonna learn is stoopid is as stoopid does ? Fill ur boots and good for you.... but don't forget that many of us have already forgotten back in the 70's/80's more ways to make power with stock B/RB/Hemi parts that you'll discover in the next 30 years ? BTW.... next time you degree a BB Mopar Cam on #1 ? Roll it around and check centerline on it's running mate #6.... then while wondering where the 4* came from.... come back and re-read this post OK ? Thx.... very entertaining.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Budget build is the way to go. Be careful farts turn to sharts😂

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

🤣

It's not good, it's good enough........I luv that phrase!! Keep annoying the smart azz Mopar purists.

That's going to be just fine Also I pretty sure that Marine motors are made with more nickel in the casting ? Stronger ? Marine gas motors spend most of time at 3300 /3800 RPMS How do I know this. In the recreational Boating lm known as a god 😅 Captain Bee Barry 😮

@mikesr3407

Жыл бұрын

Funny how it's kinda like Highway Driving ! Not lugged around town ...

@HowardJrFord

Жыл бұрын

All of chrysler's engine blocks from back in the day , from the /6 up to the 440 have a high content of nickel .

But are you having fun? It seems you can make anything work.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

I think I am. Sometimes I’m not so sure. Like today, huffing paint and bad gas fumes. Haha.

Well just give the 440 to me lol.

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Problem solving!

Musical cranks, my favorite game

If it works is it really a dumb idea that's what you need to ask people whenever you're doing this stuff and people say you won't never run or I won't never work I've heard it all my whole life

I'm 100th comment.....so there

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

😮

Appreciate you Brother😂 Double Clutch. Haters hate take the video view and f the opinion in the comments .

@DeadDodgeGarage

4 ай бұрын

Damn right!

I seen u.t.g get told he doesn't know what he is doing by some special kind of person... People don't understand just how much you can get away with on a old motor

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. And as I’ve said, he is one of my bigger mentors on this. That and experience - I was getting acceptable results long before I had half a clue. I have at least half of a clue now. 😅

You see now that you’ve been doing everything wrong since you were born 😂 just like everyone else, but now you know how to do it right, THROW AWAY ALL THAT HEAVY IRON and fit electric motors from now on 🤣🇬🇧🍺 CHEERS BIG EARS.

Hilarious.

Ok I am a cheap bastard. I am actually the chairman of the cheap bastards club in my area. I love using perfectly serviceable old parts as opposed to buying new. I even prefer to buy used parts before buying new. But you have really crossed over the line on this build. Yikes !

@DeadDodgeGarage

Жыл бұрын

Love it!