First there was me. Then, there was Terminate. Now, Phyrexian Arena and Cultivate... These fools are slowly building an 'Anti-Nitpicking Nerds' decklist for me to CRUSH them with.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Phyrexian Arena and Cultivate were on the list wayyyy before you, bub.

@jordonpohl7393

3 жыл бұрын

Yuck it’s gravetitties

@mimiklureaegis9906

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, I thought you were gonna go Ariana Grave Titan on us. “First there was me. Then there was Terminate. Now there’s Arena, and that s**t’s infuriating...!!” xD

@ubilava9454

2 жыл бұрын

You show them, king

@saveachip2620

Жыл бұрын

They're making themselves a common enemy......

"Harmonize doesnt synergize with any green de-" Me: "but what aboud my wort-" NN: "Except Wort" Ah they got me again. That being said, excellent guide and Idefinitely need to re-evaluate my choices on some decks.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nicholas, glad we could include your exception in the video 😂

@tatsuhirosatou5513

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds lands matters like harmonize a lot too.

@SirCorn

3 жыл бұрын

@@tatsuhirosatou5513 Golos Maze's End 👀

Gotta love the daily dose of Nitpicking Nerds, thanks for the content!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

#DailyContent :P

I feel like the upside on a lot of these synergyless staple type cards is that they always perform okay. A card like Phyrexian arena does what you want it to do, no bells and whistles, whereas a card like midnight reaper, though having a waaay higher ceiling, can sometimes be pretty bad when you’re not set up correctly. I still think you should go with these synergy cards over the “staple” cards and just try to make sure these incorrect set-ups never happen but it’s an interesting thing to think about

@waynefeller8824

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Which is why I feel you should mix synergistic cards, along with a few utility cards.

You guys are killing it. As someone returning to the format it is tempting to run “staples” and not think past it. Awesome content keep it up!

I think one reason people don't understand how a card like Terminate can be worse than a card like Ravenous Chupacabra is because they are used to a format like cube, where a spell's utility is based heavily on how versatile or efficient it is. In EDH, synergy is king because your whole deck revolves around one card that you always have access to. In EDH, efficiency is secondary to synergy. Though of course, the exception is CEDH, where efficiency becomes paramount again.

I just want to thank you guys. Your videos are really didactic and they helped me to reconfigure my deck in a really positive way. Keep the good work!

Thank you guys! This video helped me tune the deck I'm just finishing, bc I ran both Cultivate and Kodama's Reach, and I have changed them for Wood Elves and another elf that also ramps (4 mana, a 3/1, when it enters and when it attacks)

I love the "Empyrial Archangel" art in the background lol it's literally my favorite overall card for what it does and art. Also "One with the Machine" is an awesome Artifact specific draw spell. I love the channel thanks.

Loving the content guys! I'm really looking forward to putting your advice to good use in Alela artifact/self mill, Kodama/Ravos Enchantress, and Krenko.

Bro I be watching/listening the HELLLLL out this channel. I love the "Homies just discussing" vibe of these videos. Nothing too extra, no outrageous memes (Nothing against it I actually love these), & "if you know you know" style jokes. Great videos always

I've been paying more attention to Wood Elves thanks to you guys. And I've found that the two original editions (Portal and Exodus) have gorgeous art by Rebecca Guay, seemingly pulled out of Changeling the Dreaming (that also featured her art).

@greatbrandini3967

3 жыл бұрын

Rebecca Guay is one of 2 mtg artists I've actually taken note of, my favorite being Forest from C16. Gonna have to pick up some of them wood elves

I like that you made the video into section in youtube. Now it is much easier to find the information that I am looking for in the video.

What makes cards like Harmonize worth playing in my opinion is no matter your board state or where you are in the game, you always get the effect. For example: Sure Shamanic Revelation and Slate of Ancestry have synergy and could draw you more cards in the right deck but they don't help you after a board wipe. I would play all 3 them (Also Beast whisperer and Guardian Project since they're auto-includes pretty much) to guarantee the card draw when everything runs according to play and also when things go south. Same with cards like Fact or Fiction, Sign in Blood and similar reliable effects. They might not have as much synergy but I think there's a certain value to cards that reliably do what you want them to

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

I guess, fact or fiction has a ton of synergy though, at least in any deck that uses its graveyard

@Arisawa_Heavy_Ind

3 жыл бұрын

@@elipetrou9308 Yeah it was just an example for cards that always perform, no matter the circumstances

I feel called out. I play a deck with 17 counterspells and a sensei's divining top.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Whoops :P

@maxheath1158

3 жыл бұрын

You’re part of the problem

@KS-ui4hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxheath1158 I wont deny that

@tempestandacomputer6951

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxheath1158 i wanna be too!

You could tell how smug beezey felt when he knew the perfect tid bit but let Joe take it. Always so funny at the end

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

I was being extremely smug!

@bloodbathnbeyond

3 жыл бұрын

I think smug is the one word to describe Beezy lol

@crackers1512

3 жыл бұрын

In this one episode, the text under Beezy’s name in the intro said, “makes a smug token.” Perfect.

I will say, my Thrasios/Vial smasher deck is super happy with cultivate/kodama's exactly because they do the thing and then sit in the yard - because then I can exile them for my big delve spells. Niche situations and all that, but man they're so helpful!

Hii! I love your videos! You always give me so many great ideas and have actually helped me make the concept of my Boros deck and flesh it out more! Thank you so much!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help! What's the concept of your Boros deck if I may ask?

@mythiceverett9452

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds It uses Feather but not in the traditional manner. She is a card engine mainly that banks of cards like Auriela, Sword of Feast and Famine, Aggeivated Assault and a few others to combo off with infinite damage, combat steps, mana and whatnot. Feather is there just to draw a butt load of cards at any time I need with things like bandage, expedite and cards like those. Another small bit of the deck is the mana ramp with cards like Legion's Landing, Dowsing Dagger and all those cards that flip into lands. I finally have boros ramp, card draw, and removal perfected... hopefully it can hold a candle to my friends Muldrotha deck XD doesn't help that I'm gonna be giving him a few cards here soon to help it out. Main two that I'm looking at giving him are Glimpse the Unthinkable and Fleet Swallower.

I actually like adding green signets to decks so that I can play them when I don't draw another green source. Feels very risky to have most of my ramp require green mana and the rest unable to make green mana.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

You can typically make up for that issue in the manabase or at least that’s what we’ve found

This video helped me a lot with removal for my spirit tribal deck, who knew there were so many spirits that exiled things!

The daily insight is greatly appreciated!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We love providing it!

With so many cards in magic it is a fun puzzle game to figure out which cards most synergistically work with your deck theme/commander ... love it 🙌 to make the most powerful is so much less fun than making a deck of odd cards that’s just work wonderfully together, so much more satisfying

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Well in this case we are also saying that more synergy in these broader strokes just actively makes your deck stronger too :P

Another great video guys, thanks for putting this together. Can I ask you to do a video or maybe a series? As a new player I watch your video's and see you recommend one card over another (1 cmc elf rather than cultivate for example) but mechanically I do not understand why it is these decisions are bad. It is easy for me to just say "oh ya they know so I am going to do" but to truly make a player better, one must first understand the mechanics of what makes a card better than another. I would truly appreciate you making a video (a series would be amazing since I have yet to see anyone do one) on the actual mechanics of the game and how they interact outside the vacuum and how it is put into practice (your elf rather than cultivate.)

I have a corner case for cultivate and Kodamas reach. My Borborygmus Enraged deck has 20 ramp cards, it needs to be fast so I can play him out. 90% of the ramp aims not to search for lands (keep them in the deck to find and put in my hand) but cultivate is just putting it straight into my hand to deal the damage then and there! It fits outside the vacuum 😂 The other funny takeaway I had was you both dont like green signets! Shocking. In my 3 coulor above decks I exclusively put the green ones because they are 2 mana ramp and I find the core of my decks become green (in the ramp and card draw. Green is so important in the early game and I find other coulors (fixing wise) before the late game because I got green early. Just different conclusions I guess. I used to find your channel to competitive focused but I just subscribed because I hve found your target audience has started to include me. (I play powerful casual in the 7's and 8's but avoid combos and the ways ofjumping past this power level because I like a game where I dont know the outcome before I start.

I’m coming around to cutting cultivate/kodamas reach. I still have one in a 3 color deck. I’m attached because every time I’ve ever cast cultivate, I never had mana troubles for the rest of the game. I’ve been short on lands after casting a three visits before. That said, I’ve had more success with the 1-2 mana ramp packages for sure

It feels so weird watching your vids. I am not used to folks opinions lining up with mine so often 😅

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We are in your head O.O

Yoooo the banging podcasts keep coming!!!!! #1 most helpful podcast on edh!!!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Karst!!!

glad to hear this one had my cultivate & kodama's out to consider for my new deck

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Their are decks that want them just not every deck

I see your point, thought one often plays a deck that is not "all in" with one theme. Like is creature based but does not have 35 of then or high recursion, and in those cases the Cultivates or Putrefy are necessary. For example I play Belbe Wurms and besides Riskar Expertise and Return to the wildspeaker there is not many other draw spell with high synergy...

This is honestly a really helpful video because I'm building a very niche deck focusing on a partner pairing of Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh and Reyhan, Last of the Abzan. +1/+1 counters with aristocrats subtheme is surprisingly hard to build and I'm still cutting and adding cards that I think are interesting or would be good, so I think helping with synergies will be great

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Hope this helped a lot, Logan! Good luck with your deck!

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

Korvold likes aristocrats counters...

@loganator326

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the suggestion but I did already put him into the deck. If you think of anything else that's good lmk

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

@@loganator326 oh lol, he’s just favourite aristocrats commander. That’s a tough deck to make, you could do tokens cause you can sac them, and then use the rest to go wide. The green guy from rivals that makes saperlings could be good cause they make tokens and buff them, but that’s all I got. Good luck on the deck though

@mahoo_ofc

Жыл бұрын

@@elipetrou9308 are you talking about Ghaves this saproling guy? I don't know if he's top tier but I like that you can either go wide or tall.

Glad to know I’m not the only one that thinks Chromatic Lantern is overvalued in 1-3 colored decks. Thnx for them vid guys, even though I’m newly subscribed (about a month now), I’m liking the content.

I have mostly green or green + decks; i don't own a green signet yet my friends often play them. Top work as always.

Great video guys! How would you going about doing this with a 5 color deck? With access to all colors with more “just better cards” how many of those do you keep apposed to something that may Synergize with your deck slightly better but be less effective or efficient.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

I think in terms of ramp removal and card draw you still have your "best of the best" 3-4 of each, and then work with synergy from there. It really depends on the general and deck

Great content gents - so helpful!

I very much appreciated this video, thanks for the advice!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Happy it helped!

I'd like to know what I should replace cultivate with in a 5 color deck that is all about getting to 5 mana, one of each. Drop it on turn 3, tutor out 2 basic lands and slam the commander on turn 5. In something like the prismatic bridge you also don't want any cheap creatures for ramp so you only hit the big finishers. And artifact mana is far more likely to be removed.

I keep cultivate and kodamas reach in my Dina, Soul Steaper deck. Simply because I have a lot of landfall life gain triggers. I get the trigger when I cast it, and when I play the second land.

Ngl, saw the 1 minute short about terminate, clicked this video, and insta-subscribed! Good stuff!

Way2go bz you're riding a line into higher level thinking when it comes to Magic. I've been playing for a year now and it's easy for me to see how like one card is better than another. But it sure is hard to do what you're asking me to do which is like have my entire deck memorized and see the possible Corner or non corner case synergies within my deck. Thanks for the video I'm going to watch it more times until I get it keep on with the awesomeness.

Idk if you guys have done a video like this before, but it would be fun to see if there are any cards, strategies, commanders etc where you don't agree with eachother on how good/bad they are. Since you seem to be on the same page about most stuff :D

Ive been finding myself watching more and more and subscribed. I still like my green signets amd talismans though lol. Cheap ramp that lets me double cast ramp and a cheap spell in the same turn. (mass) land destruction is also fair game for me, so lands arent safe.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing! Maybe over time we can get you away from the green signets lol

Great video. Thanks for providing example cards aside for the commonly used cards

my favorite couple doing it again, thanks for the advice guys 🤘🏻

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

No prob! This video was like packed with info :D

Good video as always!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joshua, glad you enjoyed!

with cultivate and such i see it also as a sort of draw because it reduces the chance for drawning lands in later turns

I can think of one instance where cultivate is good; Ayula, or other green commanders that only cost 2. In general, you want to be playing your commander on turn 2, so you don't want the 2 cost options like farseek. The one mana dorks might still be better, but you still need more than just those, and if you're playing it on turn three anyway, you might as well get an extra land in hand.

Do you guys have any games on stream or anything? I'm interested in seeing you both play games and see how you rationalize turns.

I love the art on the new Kodama's Reach and the alternative art of Cultivate from core set 2021. Its a guilty pleasure to use them in my decks but I guess you are right, in my landfall deck I want the lands to enter and not sit in my hand, so I guess Harrow is better.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

If you like the art that is a good enough reason to play it. This all about synergy and power but liking something is fine as well 💜

@Arvaniz

3 жыл бұрын

I use Agent of Masks in my Oloro deck, purely for the art (the MM17 one I love). ;-)

The thing about these Staples is deck building, where you want to try something, you put the Staples in the deck to try It then after you've seen If the goal of your deck is working you change then for the more synergistc ones. The Idea is that the Staples are already in your binder so you can test, while you might not have that more specific synergistc one.

You guys are such a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for to top tier content

@tatsuhirosatou5513

3 жыл бұрын

These guys are one of the worst edh channels, I highly recommend watching command zone, commanders quarters, or the 99

would love to hear more draw options in green... (harmonize seems way better than that 6 cmc spirit even in an elf deck)... would love a stronger draw package than a couple cards. as well as read the bones, What other draw options would you suggest in mono black or mono green?

@kriptonite981

3 жыл бұрын

For mono black, Sign in Blood, Read the Bones, and Foreboding Fruit are my first go to cards. Village Rites and Bankrupt in Blood are great in sacrifice decks

@LMA401

3 жыл бұрын

Rishkar’s Expertise, Return of the Wildspeaker, Beast Whisperer, Guardian Project, Great Henge, etc...

@Cam-ki7fk

3 жыл бұрын

The blood has been pumped thanks guys

wheels are fun, makes the games way more exciting. plus if you have some graveyard shenanigans its also good. and cultivate is soooo good for people that don't have perfect ramp cards, fixes colors and guarantees land drops, and cheap!

may I know if it's Only patron can get your advice on deck construction?

This was great. Made perfect sence.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear Mario!

Honestly, so many of the cards you mentioned are or were in my Thantis deck and I'm not sure what to do with it at this point. I'd love if you did some sort of deck doctor!

Serious question: for spot removal, would you prioritize synergy with creature ETBs over instant speed removal? Depending on the deck, I have not been counting things like rec sage in my removal packages because they are more likely to be sorcery speed, whereas something like caustic caterpillar has creature synergy and I can use it at instant speed. If it would free up some slots where I don't need everything to be instant speed in lieu of synergy, I'd like to know. Thanks.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

You still need SOME instant speed interaction, but you can trade a few for creature ETB's, and I'd trade even more if you have things like Caterpillar or instant speed ways to flicker / reanimate. There's really no set number or template, though

I fully agree with the deck building philosophy you guys are talking about here. Don't pick cards in a vacuum. Instead look at how many other little synergies and advantages you could get if you draw this card with others in your deck that you could use together. If you get every card to have some synergy with the majority of the rest of your deck... then it almost doesn't matter what you draw, your nearly guaranteed to draw into some playable synergies to advance your game plan. Like you guys said, most times a sorcery or instant one time use spell is going to sit in your graveyard and do nothing for the rest of the game after you play it, but even those might become fantastic synergies in a spellslinger deck where instants and sorceries matter and you likely have spell recursion. That's when you would want to play those, but like you've been saying you need to pay attention to what your deck wants to see that.

It’s thanks to you guys that I removed cultivate for wood elves. Keep up the good work

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

This comment just made my day!

What is your opinion on Pest Infestation in comparison to the creatures you mentioned (Caustic Caterpillar, Masked Vandal, Reclamation Sage) and in general? I reallly like it, because it gives me same rate of removal as Rec Sage, gives me better stats, gains me some life and can even be scaled up. Great video btw!

What do you think of Flash flood type cards... 1 blue mana for destroy red permanent or return mount to hand (odd legends card) ... conditional but cheap single target removal in multi player especially in decks you can bring back spells from the graveyard throughout the game... terminate isn’t a card I really like at all as want the permanent removal more than just hitting creatures... but both conditional ... of course hydroblast/blue elemental is probably better but similar affect in a card seemingly unplayed

Talking about flip lands, what's you guys take on Conqueror's Galleon (if you can crew it right after)

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We think that even with the crew cost paid, it's a little too slow and clunky for our taste

Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are good in Gishath. You don't want mana dorks, so you are limited to mostly instant and sorcery based ramp. Yes, you run three visits and skyshroud claim, and all the other good ramp spells. I got 13 ramp spells in the deck.

Can you offer alternatives for read the bones please? In black red and white with equipment/voltron synergies. the deck already runs night's whisper, jeska's will, pure steel paladin, and other staples

@LMA401

3 жыл бұрын

Sign in Blood, Humble Defector works great with politics, Necropotence if you’re not playing budget, Skullclamp, etc

@crackers1512

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t play budget and I still consider read the bones to be a good card when playing a combo deck, because it allows you to see four cards. If the first two aren’t gravecrawler or a tutor, the next two might be.

@LMA401

3 жыл бұрын

@@crackers1512 I think Read the Bones is great in my Yidris deck. It allows me to control the cascade or just straight up draw a new 2 to cascade more

What beats out read the bones and phyrexian arena in mono black though? Edit: Already running necropotence, ancient craving, etc

Would terminate be okay in say a kresh deck, where it would grow kresh, in your opinion?

Could you guys do one of these for 4-5 color deck specific ?

I play an illuna deck (Godzilla Theme) and i ramp with sorceries only because they can't get hit by it's ability. Best way to play it is get landramp as lands won't get hit by it's ability. My 99 is a mix of mutate creatures and Spirits and Humans from the kamigawa block. In a deck like this cultivate and kodamas reach are perfect ramp as most of the time you will get to play both lands & one of them will be untapped. In my opinion ramping with lands will be used more in the future as it's the only safe way of ramping if you have a high cmc deck. Even though high cmc decks usually underperform, i think they will be alot of fun in the future edh meta. You might only be able to put lands into play for the 3 first turns, but after that you have a great and safe manabase that lets you outpower your opponents if they are not careful. This brings a nice dynamic into the playgroup :)

I usually build with a template in mind: 12 Ramp Spells 11 Card Draw and so an on... Then, when I choose my ramp spells y put 6 staple cards (Sol Ring, Arcane Signet...) but for the other 6 cards i look for the ones that have the most Synergy or Share a Gimmick with my deck. For Example, in an Enchantress type deck; Utopia Sprawl, Fertile Ground.

I'm back to Krosan Grip in mono-green. Aetherflux Reaervoir and Walking Ballista are common enough. Nature's Claim, Unravel the Aether, Deglamer, Krosan Grip, Force of Vigor, Song of the Dryads and Beast Within are my removal now.

Jokes on you, I use Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, AND Wood Elves in my Xenagos deck

Well then come to The Netherlands, loving your fans and all! ;)

After seeing what wood elves could do in Muddsta’s Trostani deck, my mind was forever changed about green sorceries

I love building like this, so much so that I usually go too far. The number of times I've needed instant speed interaction in my all permanent persistent petitioner muldrotha deck is more than I'd like to admit.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

You have instant speed interaction, it's called "Mill 12 cards" XD But hey maybe throw in a few catchall removal spells :P

@josephfishman9825

3 жыл бұрын

​@@NitpickingNerds does living death count as catch all removal?

My Chromatic Lantern turns my Glacial Chasm back into a mana source. For situations like that, it can be 2 for 1 (or possibly better) ramp - besides just letting you turn off your brain on how to tap for mana. I know 3 mana rocks have fallen from favor, but I feel like where it plays into a pillow fort strategy (or for any other non mana producing land), it's still worth an include. I agree it's not a windmill slam auto include, but I think it's worth considering for corner cases and not only as a band aid for a sub par mana base.

Could you please give a few examples of 3 CMC draw spells better than read the bones? Necropotence in a mono-/two-colour deck, arguably Painful Truths in a four/five colour deck... what else? (Keeping in mind that it is usually a good idea to diversify repeatable and one time draw effects and different CMC)

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on your deck. I think any draw spell with synergy beats out RtB, but in terms of more generic spells I would at least play Night's Whisper or Sign in Blood over it. They're just one mana cheaper

I rewinded a few times but still cant catch if they offered something in place of windfall. I have a deck thats all about discarding cards and so windfall actually fits pretty well, the thing i was looking for was like the best refill your hand effects, because that is one issue ive been having is being down to nearly an empty hand and having to hope I topdeck a refill, aside from cards like Seagate Restoration, mystic remora, ryhsitc study, I cant seem to find many that have a much better effect than windfall for the same or cheaper mana value. Any help would be appreciated 🙏

@NitpickingNerds

Жыл бұрын

We have a whole video on cards draw but stuff like Fact or Fictions, Memory Deluge, Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise

Aren't x draw spells some of the best win conditions if you can make infinite mana? I don't think you wanna play walking ballista if it doesn't synergize with your deck

i play green signets in my tasigur deck because i can use them for my isochron scepter combo and search them with tribute mage and 2cmc transmute spells

I love to see your Chanel growing. I got a personal question, so ofc u dont answer if u dont want to. Do you two live together? I also live with a friend who is into magic and its the best thing for sure while Covid!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We used to, but currently we live separately with plans to move back in together at some point

Made my first ever deck in commander ever new to magic, got into it because of Godzilla. Would I be able to send my deck list to see if u think it’s okay? I haven’t play tested in person with anyone yet and I can’t wait to suprise my friends lol I spent a lot

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

You can join our discord and post your decklist in the "deck help" channel where a bunch of people can take a look and offer constructive feedback!

@CanadianSoldier

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds awesome I will do it when home, I come from a Pokémon vintage and modern background so my deck style may show some new combos lol

Phyrexian Arena doesn't require other cards to draw. Harmonize is 3 cards no matter what, if you focus on a creature to draw well commander has a lot of removal.

Read the bones dig 4 deep for 3 mana? Not that bad is it?

You said no green signets, but what if they're in a muldrotha deck?

DAILY CONTENT?! OH MY! IF I WOULDN'T BE SUB'D ALREADY, I'D SUB AGAIN! POG!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Big time pog

I still use Terminate in minotaurs tribal, there just aren't a dozen better more synergistic removal spells.

I know this is an old video, and I may not get a response, but what is your guy's reasoning for Vindicate being unplayable? Is it because of the price tag and the fact it is not instant speed, besides the fact that it doesnt really synergize with a lot of strategies? The ability to take out literally anything (that is not indestructible) seems really good to me. I'm just genuinely curious on what thought process you guys had for the card! Maybe Im just missing something as a newer Commander player

Man, I want to see a video comparing the coreset titans and see where grave titan ends up.

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

Primeval, sun, fire, ice, grave (in my opinion) If that is what you’re talking about

@AlphaDraconis369

3 жыл бұрын

@@elipetrou9308 yeah

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

@@elipetrou9308 grave is way better than ice

@tylerrowe596

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds Yeah Frost Titan is legit unplayable I think.

@AbyssArray

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a challenge.. time to add all the legal Titans in the deck

When I watch your videos I get a little synergy between Joe and Beezy :)

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

They work pretty well together

Deck concept- based on my pet card, Collected Conjuring. Dragon's Helix Combo- Dragon's Approach, Spellweaver Helix, and Collected Conjuring. If you are familiar with any of those cards then truly you understand that this jank combo must be fire. Consider a play pattern like this: Turn 1: scry land or Faithless Looting Turn 2: Cathartic Reunion (throw Collected Conjuring and Dragon's Approach in the trash) Turn 3: Spellweaver Helix [Imprint Bad CoCo and Relentless Lava Spike (Dragon's Approach)] Turn 4: Relentless Lava Spike-Triggers the Helix (free Collected Conjuring) and reveal/ cast another 2 Relentless Spikes and get another 2 triggers. Repeat until brick, empty deck, or you beat the opponent(s). Artifact tutors can get the helix, your deck should be full of dragon's approach and as for finding the Collected Conjuring... Uhhhhh IDK I don't play CEDH

@kriptonite981

3 жыл бұрын

Put Obosh as the commander for black tutors

These videos make my phyrexian tower very large. Premium content.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Gross lol, thank you!

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

Rudy’s hard phyrexian tower?

@mariesidman7905

3 жыл бұрын

@@elipetrou9308 ah a man of supreme quality. Very nice

Great video and talking points as usual. Gotta say I disagree with a couple things. For one : I think.cultivate is still a great card, but in the right decks (and not just landfall ) but if my commander specifically costs 5 then its great. Because you ramp ahead a turn and guarantee you've got your next land drop. You can keep a hand with 3 lands.and.cultivate and guarantee you can cast your commander on curve. The other thing I disagree with is the green signet thing. Yes green has 29 boatloads of ramp, but there are only so many that cost 2 or fewer. If I'm in a deck doesn't Have a.5 cost commander, or a landfall strategy, or something that benefits from stuff in my graveyard, then I'm 10/10 choosing a golgari signet over a cultivate or.other 3 cost or more ramp. ESPECIALLY when in running a 4 cast commander. Now I DO think its good having a mix of dorks and.regular ramp, but I don't also n want ALL of my cheap ramp to come from creatures because of all the removal out there. Its always better to have a mix.of permanent types so you don't completely get blown out EVERY time.a board wipe.hits. Sure, there's.wipes.that destroy all non land permanents but there's also a lot.of.only.creatures, or only.artifact type of wipes. Again, great discussion guys sorry btw for all the random periods in my typing lol. My keyboard.messed up right there at the end of my space bar and its.so much more.work to back track mid.typing to erase.them and correct it hahaah

@SpeedingBus01

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more, decks with expensive mana generals absolutely love Cultivate/Kodama reach.

Chromatic lantern certainly doesn’t go in many decks but I wanna make a huge creatures deck with Jodah, archmage eternal so I’m probably gonna buy one for that deck because that deck needs access to wubrg at all times for it to work. And I I can have perfect fixing I could cast 2 big stupid creatures in a turn realistically. Imagine casting 2 eldrazi titans on turn 9 where your only ramp is 1 artifact. That’s sounds beautiful

Did you guys get this video idea when you mentioned you wanted to make a video about what you meant by saying “take out terminate” 2 days ago?

New viewer here just wondering how I can get my deck looked at?

I snoozed off watching this and had a dream i was in magic school.

@KyeGuard

3 жыл бұрын

Did you get there via train or on the magic school bus?

While this is good advice, something I always need to be careful of in commander decks is making too many cards reliant on my deck's strategy. I like to think about what my deck will do throughout a game. For example, lets say I have a green token deck. The typical flow of my deck might be: Get out a token generator > create tokens > untap with the tokens > boost the tokens > swing with the tokens When putting in synergistic cards, I'll want to avoid putting in too many cards which synergize with the end of that flow since it takes a lot of work to get there. Shamanic Revelation is amazing in this deck but I would likely still also want Harmonize for when I'm stuck at the early parts of this flow and haven't generated tokens. I wouldn't want to replace all my removal spells with creature based ones since those require I get through a lot of the flow of my deck before they're good. I'll definitely want to consider replacing generic removal for it, but not all of it. Creature which ramp me would actually be really great for this deck though, since it helps the deck go wide with creatures. It synergizes early in the deck's flow and doesn't require being further in the flow in order to do anything. Another factor to consider is that your opponents will also run removal. If your opponents stop your deck from doing its thing and keep you early in your deck's flow, what can you do? I've played some bad commander decks and one common thing among them is that they don't do anything unless they get their specific strategy going. Many have a high costed commander that, if it gets destroyed, all the cards in the deck stop functioning well because they're all relying on it. These are some good tips but consider how a card synergizes and ensure your deck works even if your opponent's prevent you from getting your strategy going.

Tring to find the argument for playing Nature's Claim (which is just a synergyless staple) and not Terminate. Given, Terminate is mana value 2 (look how I adapted to the new rulz) which definetely puts it below, let's say, StoP, but it hits creatures, which are, as you don't tire to stress, the MOST common card type in EDH. It also has no restrictions (except for Hexproof, Prot and the likes). The most important part about Terminate is the instant speed - cmc 2 instant speed creature removal in a format that plays around at least one creature (usually) per player is just the interaction most decks crave. I feel your point for cards like Deadly Rollick, but they are only good IF you have your commander - so if you have a strong commander, chances are high that Deadly Rollick is not free because your opponents play interaction. Synergy interaction is nice, but hard to find as soon as you want instant speed. And the higher the power level, the more important is instant speed to shut down combos (you also point out the importance of instant speed, so I am really confused how much you like Daretti). While synergy is fine, you need to be able to stop opponents, and there aren't too many ways to do that for most strategies. You need to keep board domination (like Daretti) and Interaction (like Terminate) apart - they just don't fill the same slot.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We might just disagree on the power rankings of removal spells, we have a fair number of things higher than Terminate (Deadly Rollick and Chaos Warp for example)

I appreciate that you moved Anakin to the lower shelf to appropriately give Obi Wan the high ground.

I've found that mana dorks suck in EDH cos people always play wrath spells, and suddenly I find myself struggling on mana. I totally agree about using Wood Elves and Rejuvenators to ramp because it is less likely that people will play Armageddon cards.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

It can depend on your meta, but if you have synergies with creatures then the mana dorks can replace themselves either in mana cost or card value

@Omnivxrse

2 жыл бұрын

You just gotta play so many mana dorks that you ramp fast enough to win the game before your opponents even have enough mana to cast a board wipe;)

Is elder gargaroth good in a riku deck? Is elder gargaroth good in general in commander? Love all your content

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I think Elder Gargaroth is mostly a card you should avoid, the power level of it is pretty low and the same is true for potential synergy. It is generally slow and doesn't offer much compared to similar things. Although Joe has had good results at lower power levels

@TheCartajay

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds much appreciated I will cut it

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCartajay I, Joe, have been impressed!