Thank you for putting this on the main channel. You're the only person I've found online that is doing this stuff relating to motorsports. There's lots of info out there, but its all skewed towards others subjects that I just don't have much interest in.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Cheers bud, I am hoping to actually make something soon! 😳

@TravisFabel

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport lol, says the guy with a billion homemade parts on a mini Cooper, And the only person with a working ITB replacement system I've seen on KZread.

Your videos have made me go from a complete novice, to a competent 3d modeller.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Wow!! You’re better than me then! I still don’t have a clue!!!

At the bottom of the menu where you find the 2 point dimension is a tool called caliber, way faster or even the one right below “2 point” Point and plane you pick your point on one side and the plane of the other. Always a straight line. I work with this software and him scanners everyday at work.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thanks I have tried those, and probably makes more sense than changing the coords manually but this way I found easy to explain. But lots of great tips!

Very good video. Keep up the great work - i really enjoyed your content on 3d scanning. Thanks 👍

Thank you for doing all these videos, they helped me realize I can trust the gear and there is significant good software to be used.

Love these videos, and have already applied a lot of things that you have taught in my own CADing. It would be cool to see a video on generative design or topography optimization that Fusion 360 offers if that was something you've ever messed with. Thank you!

Thank you, love the tips and tricks! Especially the align to coordinate system with GOM...dread doing that in fusion every time.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that 321 alignment is just too good!

It's really amazing that GOM let's you do everything it does in a free package. I've used seriously expensive software in the past to do very similar things. Great video man, very very clear explanations of each process. It's worth remembering when using an entire face worth of scan data for a best fit, it's worth excluding or deleting the data in the holes. Even though a best fit will ignore the data after a certain depth in the whole, having lots of data for each hole in a set direction will bias the best fit. The difference this will make is probably negligible but here's an annoying metrology eng's input 😅

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

That is a great shout, I was hoping the selection algorithm would sort that out but it’s a good point. I need to get better at GOM inspect, but it’s a classic piece of pro only software… vertical learning curve! 😳 Glad you enjoyed it!

@jonwebb9261

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport I'm somewhat guessing but the selection algorithm will best fit a surface in a (for example) 50 micron range and if that range is taken up but hole faces going all in one direction, it will then bias the best fit. Very familiar with that vertical learning curve but luckily KZread channels like yours make these things more manageable!

I think this is my new favorite channel. Great content! Thanks .

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Great video as always. Really shocked at how close the 123 block was when you measured it!

You know he means business when he's got his specs on and a beer in hand 👍 GOM looks great

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

It’s always business time for me DC!

There are free lessons and exercies if you log in into GOM training center. Or in KZread could find complete basic trainings.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

I’ve looked, but because this pro level software, these are also pro level courses rather than YT-style. Not that the pro-level course tell you more, they just spend hours to do it! 😂

@Csabancs

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport the courses made for beginners, too. Step by step tutorials :)

Also, you're great at presenting this stuff.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Cheers bud… all it takes is hydration and editing!

Two thumbs up!! Great content. I just dropped $$ for a new laptop to handle the Einstar scanner software. Einstar coming soon. Then scanning to make some custom parts for my Jaguar with my Ender 3 Pro 3D printer. Thanks again for all these great reviews and software lessons. Just amazing what a hobbyist can do now.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Jeff! I know you’ve watching for a while and it’s obvious you are just the type of person this channel is for… people just like me!!! 😂

In mesh mixer you could insert rectangular primitives on opposite faces and cover the whole sides, the measurements would then be uniform

Great vids! I found your channel and appreciate the common sense exposure of stuff... including that imperial is easier than metric! (I mean, 1-2-3 vs 25.4, 50something, and 76.3repeating).... thanks! Cheers.

Must admit I am glad that you mentioned it is beginning to skirt on GD&T, as I am one of the people who has spent an entire career working in it - well actually in that and far broader high precision metrology. When I saw the title of the video it was red rag to a bull on first view, and I was about to roll the sleeves up for a bit of a barney !! I thought using those scanners for any kind of meaningful metrology comparison is the equivalent of endorsing taking an engine apart with a chisel, hammer and a Leatherman. Anyway I calmed down, after getting to the disclaimer, enjoyed the video and the as usual great content. It actually is great to see other people using scanners etc for not just making game player figures etc. I am more of a motorcycle than car guy but really enjoy what you are doing having only recently discovered the channel. Thanks, your efforts are appreciated.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Haha!!! You’ll notice I didn’t use the word metrology once in the video… VERY deliberately! Yeah, I know these are toys and as is usually the case, I know just enough about GD&T and metrology to know I don’t know much! 😂 Anyway, I am glad someone of your experience enjoyed it!

GOM inspect is very nice but it also has a steep learning curve - especially for someone like me who has no experience with any metrology techniques/software. Thanks for this quick intro, this gives me a quick introduction and now I am not that scared to select a function from the menu and push buttons 😁 Instead of creating two points on two planes and aligning them manually, you can also create the second point using Construct -> Point -> Projection point. This will project a point on the second surface using the normal of the first point's surface. This removes any dependencies of the coordinate system. I did get an error (normals are opposite) but that was easily fixed by ticking the "Do not check normals" box

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

I actually recorded project point as an alternative, but I wanted the video to be 10mins long and it was headed to 30 so something had to go 😂😂😂 There are a multitude of other ways aswell, but I have to leave something for future videos! 😂

Absolutely fantastic content. I’m just at the very start of trying to learn CAD. I’ve downloaded Fusion360 and GOM after watching your videos. I’m generating point clouds with my phone to try to understand and get my head around the workflow before even thinking of getting a scanner. Could you possibly include an STL or point cloud generated by a phone in a future video to demonstrate the accessibility of this tech to us mere mortals?

Great - thanks!

Great video, thanks.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

GOM inspect is very interesting software. Thank you for highlighting and the examples you show. Awesome. On the website I noticed that below the download button states: Valid until: 12/31/2023. This would mean that the software is 'free' for 1 year?..

Were are you!! Nothing from you in a LOOOONG time!!

@JamesMelton

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! I was going to leave a similar comment. I've just discovered this channel and have received an enormous benefit as a result of it. I'd love to see more content and wouldn't mind offering what support I can, but that's not helpful if the channel has died!

Super video MF M.! Don't hesitate to create more software tutorials. Im keen to get access to one, to double check post welding dimensions of a chassis.

Thanks!

@MakingforMotorsport

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much buddy! It all helps me doing what I do!

I hope you will be doing a review on the Creality Ferret scanner soon.

More lizard and engineering stuff! Heavy on automotive as well!

thank you so much for another great video!! Would you mine to share the CAD mouse you are using on your left hand? THANK YOU!

Ive scanned most of my Mini R53 and love these videos, one gripe i have is, when measuring a 123 Block that is 1-2-3 inches, why not use inches for the measurements? I know the point is to demonstrate accuracy and i am a metric user in germany, but it just bugged me lol

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Hehe… the reason is that the inch is defined as being 25.4mm. Even America that uses imperial measurements has metric as its actual standard!

thanks for the content! you look much younger when you wear glasses 🤣

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Stop it you! 😊.

It was good to hear about MeshMixer and GOM Inspect free from this video, but the GOM plane at 17:46 is not the first perfect flat plane in the whole video. Almost any package can construct a plane from 3 points and you did that earlier in the video. You could have done that on all six sides and (if you picked the points reasonably) it would have been very close to the GOM 6 plane model. The advantage to GOM is the way it can make a best-fit plane through the massive number of points in a scan cloud.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Yep, fair enough, I did that using plane from 3points in Fusion and yep that was a true plane, but it wouldn’t be as accurate and would change each time as different points would be selected, that said, the difference would be very small….

@MrGadgetgav

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport Right... It's important to keep a sense of perspective on the differences. Using three (or maybe even two) decimal places from 3D scanner data is implying accuracy that just isn't there.Just because the number shows up in software, doesn't mean it's real ;) Also, I'm not familiar with Fusion 360 but in SolidWorks (which I've been using since 1998) any measurement between two features is automatically displayed in X,Y,Z and normal. You could get the equivalent of the GOM two point measurement without needing to change X & Y values with just two clicks. I'd be surprised if Fusion doesn't have a similar option

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGadgetgav yeah, of course, but I have been critiqued before on using point to point measurement. And even meshmixer has XYZ and surface normal alignments, these rely on alignment to the Global coordinate system and or a flat surface. In reality, the type of accuracy on display here is well above what most people need or could handle….

You should do a CMM measurement of that block so we can really know is that standard deviation of planes close to reality or is just mesh deviation.

@MakingforMotorsport

6 ай бұрын

Dude, I’m at that point in my life now I’ve gotta put my faith in something, and these chinesium 123 blocks are it! 😂

@BUXNAS

6 ай бұрын

Dude, than lets stick to the main course and no complicated questions xD

Can you export part(STL/OBJ/STEP) from GOM with those panes? I want to find a way how to create perfect plane on mesh from scaning object. 3 point doesn’t give me average plane from every single point from the mesh. Thank you

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can. You can fit all types of parametric and prismatic shapes and export them as a step file.

Hello, what is that gadget where you rotate it and smooth zoom happens???

@MakingforMotorsport

2 ай бұрын

That’s a 3DConnexion Space Mouse…. The best thing if you use 3D programs…

What it that thing you was using to move the view? I need one of them

@Rob_65

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean the SpaceMouse from 3DConnexion. It's a 3D mouse that allows you to move/pan/zoom. They have different models, they all share the same 3D mouse puck but have different other features like quick access buttons and programmable function keys. If you buy one, take a bundle with the Cadmouse Pro. This is a true 3 button mouse so you don't have to push on the scroll wheel to activate the middle mouse button.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Yeah what he said! 😂

hi so where is the Siesta ?

So as of 11/13/2023 this software is no longer available but you you have to download the application and register before finding this out. even though it says there's a free 14 day trial there's not.

@MakingforMotorsport

2 ай бұрын

I’ve just downloaded the new version. Gonna wait 14days and make sure it’s still kosher and expect a video!

@adrianlastname4864

2 ай бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport it took me 3-4 hours but i managed to get it working. does a good job of finding the best "flat" plane but the software packaging makes me want to run away.

Will 3D scanner replace tactile CMM?

@LawrenceTimme

11 ай бұрын

Depends what you want to scan. If you are scanning deep holes or slots, I think a cmm is still better than the scanner.

I really can't find the GOM inspect for free, i think zeiss bought it and now its paid :(

does anyone have the gom free installer?

@MakingforMotorsport

2 ай бұрын

It’s still available for free (I think)…. Gimme a few weeks and watch for the video!

Do you Brit’s use imperial measurements?

@LawrenceTimme

11 ай бұрын

Both

Man this channel of yours has done a lot for me. Are you alright? it seems you haven't been here for a while. I hope everything is ok!

@MakingforMotorsport

11 ай бұрын

Cheers for checking in… yeah been through some personal stuff recently but coming out the other side now…. Hoping to kick start the channel again pretty soon!

@andrxito

11 ай бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport Good to hear! Wish you the best of luck. Hopefully soon I get to buy my scanner and put this to good use :)

Any update on Siesta?

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Oh man…. You must have missed a video 🙈😫. I’d imagine it’s a cube by now 😢

@deciplesteve

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport oh, bummer. But now that you mention it, I vaguely remember that. Any new projects or just the Mini for now? I like this stuff, but I love the cars and specifically the auto testing.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

@@deciplesteve yeah, I am working on the next video now which will be making something for the mini. I am hoping to have another road project soon as that gives lots of options to do stuff I can’t do with the mini, but there are a few big changes in my personal life so we’re gonna have to see…

@deciplesteve

Жыл бұрын

@@MakingforMotorsport completely understandable. Hope you're well, love the channel.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Cheers bud

Its not free anymore?

Is there a way to use fusion 360 for free?

@emmajacobs5575

Жыл бұрын

I believe it’s still free for personal use.

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, you just download the personal use version and register. It’ll last for a year tell you to pay. Just download it again and re-sign in! 👍

you are the bob ross of 3d design but how come you dont use solidworks?

@emmajacobs5575

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t you hear the “spend less” part of the channel motto?!

@MakingforMotorsport

Жыл бұрын

Bob Ross 😂lmao!!! You just get hooked into an ecosystem really. I have always used AutoCAD and Inventor was easier to pirate back in the day than SW. When I got back into it Fusion360 had just reappeared got going and SW was still pay only (I mean it still is but BIG money pay only). They all work in the same way generally…