The amount of respect beta ray bill has for Odinson to offer his hammer was amazing. Very cool moment.

@EmoEmu

5 жыл бұрын

That's why people love BRB. He's one of the most noble characters in comics.

@theavastark6463

4 жыл бұрын

He's names thor

Unworthy Thor: Blonde, wears red, and has a metal arm... Full Metal Alchemists?

@bull.dozier9271

3 жыл бұрын

@Eye Patch Guy thats what I was thinking....and a smaller weapon...lol

@joanncanete5809

3 жыл бұрын

pathetic weeb

Thor is NOT merely a title, it's his name. His name is Thor Odinson, like Odin's name is Odin Borson. Balder's name is Balder Odinson. Loki's name is Loki Laufeyson, Angela's name is Angela Odinsdottir etc

@Barbariandisks

5 жыл бұрын

Her aesgardian name is Aldrif

@RoxDZoro

4 жыл бұрын

Technically Thor is whoever is the god of thunder

@briansantacruz681

3 жыл бұрын

Tell me are you thor god of hammers

@adolfogarzachaires394

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoxDZoro yea, but it just gives you his powers, not his identity

@sinteleon

3 жыл бұрын

But sometimes the name and descriptive title are one and the same. It's not often the case in english, but for other languages like chinese, the names are often made to be descriptive of what the parents hope the child would be like.

"Thor is not intrinsicly better than any regular asgardian accept hes stronger and faster" Lolwut!?

@frantzkenol6720

5 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable! These stories are so out of whack. They’ve ruined Marvel comics

@RoxDZoro

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like he is better lol ,if he's stronger and faster lol

Thor is his name no matter what anyone says. It is a name not a title. God of Thunder is a title.

@BenFalkenstein

7 жыл бұрын

9_Bucks Regardless, Odinson officially gave the name to Jane Foster.

@ragnar97

7 жыл бұрын

+BenFalkenstein so what is his name know? Jerry? Please.

@0Fate8Bound0

7 жыл бұрын

His name is Odinson,are you not listening? Like Jackson aka son of jack (in the traditional sense.) or Odin in odinson's case. Jane foster is Thor now so she's Thor Jane.

@Gaia_Gaistar

7 жыл бұрын

+RagnarTheRed My name is literally Jerry funnily enough. If someone stole my first name and I had to go around by my family name alone i'd be pissed. The family name Armstrong for instance was started as a semi title/clan name. In olden times in parts of Europe you'd just go by your name like John or Thor. That was it. So a guy named John might have earned the title Armstrong (John Armstrong) or used the family name Jackson, son of Jack based on the patriarch of their family. Your reasonings are as weak as the writers trying to justify this stupid bullshit.

@0Fate8Bound0

7 жыл бұрын

This is just crying over semantics. The writers have simply merged the iconography and connotations of the name Thor and God of thunder together. Instead of saying, she has taken up the mantle of god of thunder they simply refer to it as Thor because the name carries a stronger depiction of what she becomes than God of thunder does. Marval has introduced several divine pantheons from Greek to Japanese, many of which have their own gods of thunder so the term is a far vaguer indication of who Jane becomes. It''s the same reason that the Thor Corps is named that and not The gods of thunder, it better informs the reader of the mentality, powers and trajectory of the character(s) taking up the name.simple.

Thor is a name, Mjolnir only gives you the power of Thor. Beta Ray Bill wasn't never called Thor, yes?

@dzzyvilanova560

5 жыл бұрын

*wasn't ever

@UNFITTED1

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Masterson was, Volstagg was, Thor Girl existed since 2000 before Jane.

@guyfieri9913

5 жыл бұрын

UNFITTED1 he was called the war Thor making him very different from regular Thor he didn’t wield a hammer either he had a axe and his own identity

@UNFITTED1

5 жыл бұрын

@@guyfieri9913 You're dumb as hell. It wasn't his own identity. Volstaag wielded jornborn which was the weapon that Ultimate Thor wielded. The weapon came from another universe but it still belonged to Thor and War Thor was a mantle as well. Now go brush your teeth immediately! 🤨😬

@keagandeal3475

2 жыл бұрын

@@UNFITTED1 u sound a little salty

Thor not being much better than every other asgardian is such bogus, He is literally half elder god. Son of Odin and Gaia, you are telling me he is nothing special without his hammer? Psh

@vilgotkihlberg4996

6 жыл бұрын

M Concepcion Gaia is a titan in greek mythology not norse mythology.

@vilgotkihlberg4996

6 жыл бұрын

plus Thor is just a pure god he's the son of Odin and the godess Frigg not any giant or titan

@brandonlivega

6 жыл бұрын

Thor is indeed son of Gaea, Gaea took many names as Mother Earth, societies named her in their own mythologies differently.

@edwardburns1986

6 жыл бұрын

Vilgot Kihlberg in marvel comics his mom is Gaia

@MegaConkster

6 жыл бұрын

In Marvel Comics, Gaea has a presence in every pantheon under various names. Odin got to know her in bed while she was called Jord, but all of the various Earth Mother figures in all of the pantheons are still the same entity, and she was one of the Elder Gods --the first beings to emerge from the darkness. So skip the mythology lesson, Marvel has already explained its various collections of god figures on multiple occasions.

if Thor is a title and not a name, how can they still call it "The Unworthy Thor"?

@jeannietraverso903

6 жыл бұрын

Yazuki Wolf And how can he be accompanied by Beta Ray Bill. Shouldn't it be Odinson and Thor?

@maxtoth5561

5 жыл бұрын

Got ‘em

@darryljack6612

5 жыл бұрын

@@maxtoth5561 not really, because it is as it says, he is an unworthy "Thor" The same way one can be an unworthy leader. Hell there are other Thors, he is just ultimate thor

@MrThemelloman

5 жыл бұрын

Its fucking retarded he said that. Hes a damn idiot for that one

@MsPhysics22100

5 жыл бұрын

@@darryljack6612 yup that's it

unworthy Thor is the best thing coming out of DC rebirth.

@Jisim33

7 жыл бұрын

Mathias Pereira i read this and scrolled down and im like "way da min!!" almost caught me

@-m.d.n-9019

7 жыл бұрын

Mr meeseek lol , same

@nicodemusedwards6931

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know, Godspeed was pretty co- WAIT A MINUTE!

@firetarrasque4667

7 жыл бұрын

This joke is getting old now. I've seen it for SO long. Man, its cutting a SWATH through the comics section.

@cesarf.g.9996

7 жыл бұрын

Damn it you beat me

So Thor is unworthy because he's not full of himself?

@JKissoon1

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Ramos seems to go a bit against the point of him learning humility to be worthy

@Geneforson

7 жыл бұрын

+Alex Ramos +Mr. Spock Really good points from both you guys. Heh... its funny; in a way... Thor NOT being full of him self was his over arching goal for a long time in his character's run (way back) AND its the very thing that ends up not making him worthy. So I wonder if it will turn into a.... lets say math/algebra equation... that once you truly see the equation (really comprehend it) from BOTH sides ~ you will finally TRULY be able to be both things (worthy and humble). Just like an equation... if you read ONE way, you are only seeing half of it. If you read it the other way the opposite direction, again... you only see half. But when you see it BOTH WAYS ~ ie you just see the equation in its entire and not in a linear fashion; you TRULY will comprehend what the equation truly is. So it may seem simple on its surface, but can prove very difficult on deeper contemplation . Kinda like the riddle/dilemma of "trying to look left, AND right at the dame time". So yeah, CRAZY random metaphor... i know. But I think it is one way that Thor will eventually (maybe WAY down the road) will be able to become worthy to wield his hammer again. While ALSO maintain his humility.

@brandonmcdaniel5447

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Ramos I think it's more that Thor was constantly doubting himself but was in denial of his own self doubt. What Nick Fury said to him basically brought it to the forefront.

@DarkEpyon123

7 жыл бұрын

there is confidence, and there is arrogance. originally, thor was arrogant, he felt he was through "just because", that is why odin turned him into doctor so he could learn humility. after that thor wasn't fully confident in himself. he didnt believe in his actually ability or worthiness to be thor.

@davesvens8697

6 жыл бұрын

Emmmm.... I think it's tge fear of thor being evil, and seing himself as part of the "selfish gods" that makes mjolnir doubting thor, he is not sure of himself and he sees himself as kinda bad. Kinda right to say that. Thor needs to understand that he can be a "god" and a good man, that he can actually be good and a ruller. And he doubts that point in his words.

My issue with the direction Thor went is that Thor is supposed to be his name and NOT a title. Odinson is a title meaning " son of Odin" such as old English titles like " John of York". Since the comic character Thor is based on a Nordic god, it infuriates me that he completely strayed so far from the source material. That alone turned me off to the new Female Thor.

@phazonbumblebee9901

6 жыл бұрын

Or “Phil Son Of Coul”

@xavier9533

5 жыл бұрын

Thor is both a name and title. The name of Thor Odinson is well... Thor. However, it depends on how he lives up to that name. That is when Thor becomes a title. If he does not live up to his name and essentially succeed Odin, then Thor does not deserve the title of "Thor" or "God of Thunder." He may still go by the name of Thor when cast out of Asgard or when he loses his hammer, but at that point he no longer holds or deserves the title of Thor. The Title of Thor correlates with "Odinson." If he disgraces himself or acts out of line to a certain point, he no longer is deserving of being called Thor Odinson. Thus he loses the title of Thor Odinson, and is only by the name of Thor. This is all essentially what his name means. His name is Thor Odinson, but if he does something to lose the title of God of Thunder; then he loses his worthiness of the title "Thor." Thus, due to his name both being a Name and a Title, it is able to be passed down when another person takes up the earthly mantle of the hero. There is also the fact he is called Thor, and if Jane Foster or someone else takes up the mantle then they either go by Thor or go by something else that strays them farther from actually being a successor.

@Himmyjewett

2 жыл бұрын

Odinson is Thor's last name not a title

Nick Fury leaned in and whispered "I've been told by our marketing team that we need a strong female character to appeal to a smaller demographic, sorry pal."

Good job rob, one step towards BETA RAY BILL edit: OMG BETA RAY BILL IS IN THIS STORY FUCK ME YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@BEARNakedGaming

7 жыл бұрын

Messiah Bardock I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE. BETA RAY BILL!

@betaraybillfan1750

7 жыл бұрын

BEAR I've been saying this on all his recent vids, got like 120 likes on one of my comments

@LordValdomerol

7 жыл бұрын

After this comic, I just can't stop calling him Beta Ray Bro. Goddamn I wish I had a friend as fucking loyal as him

@betaraybillfan1750

7 жыл бұрын

Rich Thormentor THOR MY OATH BROTHER I HAVE RETURNED IN YOUR TIME OF NEED

@carlsjr540

7 жыл бұрын

Rich Thormentor at least you have friends

I was literally reading this comic and was like I bet Rob's going a video on this today

@SomeRandomDude161

7 жыл бұрын

Spoona Benson same man same

@johndoe-mn2zs

7 жыл бұрын

Spoona Benson literally reading a comic as opposed to figuratively reading a comic?

@defrte

7 жыл бұрын

john doe Literally. That literally happened and people literally believed it, literally.

@kawaki1207

7 жыл бұрын

Spoona Benson and so he did

@alexpronouncedcologne1579

6 жыл бұрын

I bet Rob is going a.... Eh?!

PETER PARKER IS JUST A TITLE

@josephlysaght3590

6 жыл бұрын

Enterprise wrong

@neondoggo2886

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Lysaght its a joke...

@Bluejay-jg6hz

6 жыл бұрын

dahuterschuter Yeah I mean if Doctor Otto Octavius has anything to say about it *Superior spiderman joke*

@chicharomain6908

6 жыл бұрын

And Gunther wore it best

@SuperPremiumDeluxe

6 жыл бұрын

In this context wouldn't it be that Peter is just a title and his name is actually parker?

Damn all that waiting to hear what nick said and it was not even worth it. How can a man whom is a avenger, saved countless lives and has been praised and prayed to by humans and asgaurdians alike even for a fraction of a sec believe the words of old crusty geriactric nick fury. Seeds of doubt my ass. I swear if i was thor and nick tried to whisper that shit in my ear i would have laughed in his face and tell him "THOU CAN FUCKETH OFF" and fly off with hammer and zero doubts. My boy thor should done have done that brock lesner shoulder stretch and then take nicks ass to Hammer City.

@dzzyvilanova560

5 жыл бұрын

🤣😂

I'm kinda shakey on this "title" thing. Yes, the superhero titles are titles and other characters have taken up the mantle of certain heroes, but the titles are intrinsically attached to the characters. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Has there been other Captain America's? Yes. But he is still Captain America. With Thor its even more appropriate because that is his actual name. It's not a mantle or an identity, it's the name of a god. Odinson may be stripped of his ability to lift Mjolnir, but that doesn't mean he is no longer "Thor." It's his name. He has been stripped of his power, not his name. The line of text on the hammer specifically states who ever is worthy will attain "the power of Thor" which says nothing about gaining or loosing a title or name.

Rob I need you to narrate my life's story

@Aellis4

7 жыл бұрын

J Nix "Let me tell ya something Rob corps. J Nix is the best thing to come out of DC Rebirth!"

@RenegadeStriker7

7 жыл бұрын

Aellis4 lmao that would be amazing.

@RenegadeStriker7

7 жыл бұрын

Aellis4 even better is morgan freeman narrating a comic and rob narrating a movie

@geovanyhernandez4140

7 жыл бұрын

J Nix for real!!!

@marcusavery1601

7 жыл бұрын

Same

Beta Ray Bill WAS in "Thor: Ragnarok"!! He was one of the four champions whose heads were emblazoned on the main tower on Skaar!

So is Loki, Odin, Buri, and Tyr just titles too?

Unworthy Thor is the best thing coming out of Marvel Now 2.0

@tochiokeke5468

7 жыл бұрын

that's not something to live up to.

@15thsavior

7 жыл бұрын

Spoona Benson It's the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth what are you talking about

@-m.d.n-9019

7 жыл бұрын

Spoona Benson True

@spoonabenson8762

7 жыл бұрын

Jayy Escobar I don't know

@TangledLion

7 жыл бұрын

*Good Thing FIFY

Wouldn't Bryan Cranston be a good nick fury

@jlcarid

7 жыл бұрын

Yes

@ownthevoid

7 жыл бұрын

Timmy Charles he's getting a bit old to play Fury in my opinion

@DannyTanimoto

7 жыл бұрын

Well, he is the Danger after all

@bebopbountyhead

7 жыл бұрын

Hidden comment squad!

@MyJourneyConcludes

7 жыл бұрын

Only David Hasselhoff can play white Nick Fury

*The Ultimate Hammer of Thor* Me:B-but it's an axe...

I still see Thor (Proper Thor) as the only Thor regardless of what the current writer says. Thor is his name, it is not a title and has never been a title. Foster is no more than a publicity stunt and once Marvel gets back on track and returns Thor's power to him as it should be the story will go on and be much better for it.

@bkstandard882

6 жыл бұрын

J fucking feminists

@thetruemarksmen9124

6 жыл бұрын

J well Thor is just the god of thunder but without his hammer he doesn’t seem to have thunder powers so I guess whoever has the hammer is the one with thunder and lighting powers which gives them the title of god of thunder aka Thor

@probot6515

6 жыл бұрын

ThetrueMarksmen no. They become the god of thunder not thor.

@Black-ICE92

6 жыл бұрын

ThetrueMarksmen naw Thor still has his thunder powers without it, this just bad portrayal on the character

@probot6515

6 жыл бұрын

ARNAV JOSHI ... *shaking head*

Everyone's entitled to their opinions but Thor Odinson is the true THOR and Jane Foster's Thor is just a novelty that'll lose her status sooner or later

@jlcarid

7 жыл бұрын

Sooner the better

@Charziken909

7 жыл бұрын

charlie dark and then people are gonna miss her like dick grayson batman or doc oc spiderman

@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881

7 жыл бұрын

If that was just an opinion then her titles wouldn't sell so crappy

@CharlieDarkon

7 жыл бұрын

john Thaerough Well numbers never lie . Marvel has definitely done something wrong with making Jane Foster the new "Thor"

@CharlieDarkon

7 жыл бұрын

And I actually hope Odinson ends up killing the female Thor not knowing it was Jane

odinson is better than foster

@bigdurk4115

7 жыл бұрын

Der Rider I agree

@RoachMcToast

7 жыл бұрын

Der Rider No kidding. Jane Foster is little more than Marvel trying to be trendy, and making a woman a big character. They didn't bother trying to write a new character. Thus we have unworthy Thor being way cooler.

@gorrevisor

7 жыл бұрын

Judging from the video (did not read the comic) the logic is so vague. So what is his full name? Odinson? So if has children, they will be Odinson-son? Thor is clearly a name, not a title. That is saying Tony is a title, not "Iron Man".

@14megasxlr

7 жыл бұрын

Their children will be named "(name) Odinson". Odinson works as a surname, because they are still descendants of Odin.

@ddavis8988

7 жыл бұрын

I definitely find Jane Foster more interesting. Thor has always been boring to me. He has his moments though

I only appreciated Jane Foster from the period when she was the love interest of Thor. I never accepted her role as a replacement for the Thunder god

This is honestly the best half hour I've ever spent watching KZread. Well researched. Intelligently presented. Really great work.

so the collector wants to become collecTHOR... hehehehe

@chrisakeel5885

6 жыл бұрын

Norway Estrella nope he wants to be the ultimate collecTHOR😂

@kaikibestgrill4986

3 жыл бұрын

The door is on the left sir

Thor is not a title. Period. End of story. The stories in the Thor title and this Unworthy title are great. However, using his name as a title is utterly ridiculous. Just my two cents....

@janidoe4561

7 жыл бұрын

Bill D triggered

@Max_Money_AWA

7 жыл бұрын

Conor Punch Is your comment a micro-aggression?

@memeSSJG

6 жыл бұрын

Thor is a title odinson is his name

@patsboy1012

6 жыл бұрын

MemeSSJG Thor is his name, Odinson just tells you he’s obviously the son of Odin just like Odin is the son of Bor hence Borson is Odin’s last name . God of Thunder is the title Thor carries. By saying Jane Foster is Thor is a statement that is false because just because you wield Mjölnir doesn’t make you Thor. Captain America once wielded the hammer but did that make him Thor no.

@logan6034

6 жыл бұрын

You're not writing the story, Jason Aaron is. Period. End of story.

Jason Aaron: how can I ruin Thor? Oh, I know... I'll make him lose everything , even his name. Well, bravo

Thor is not a title. It's his damn name. I don't care who is writing the character or what they think they can and can't do. The character is based on a real cultural icon and you don't get to alter that.

@tfos993

6 жыл бұрын

Vulgarr the Viking But but but, muh diversity

@chunkytheclown3422

6 жыл бұрын

It's because Odin put the enchantment on the hammer. I doubt anyone intended this to happen when it was first written, but saying that anyone worthy of wielding the hammer "shall possess the power of Thor" means that Thor's powers have been separated from himself the instant Odin made that spell and could be given to whoever wields Mjolnir. Considering that Thor's exceptional power comes from his increased connection to the Odinforce due to his bloodline and Odin has full control of that force, it makes perfect sense that Odin could strip him of all but his baseline Asgardian power(which is why he's not really any stronger than a normal Asgardian soldier without it), connect it to the hammer, and imbue whoever wields the hammer with that power. I disagree with the idea that Thor literally doesn't possess the name "Thor" after he becomes unworthy, because that's just flat out his given name, but due to his pride as a warrior, I could see how he could psychologically want to punish himself by no longer considering himself "Thor" after everything he based his identify on was stripped away. It's rather horrible that his girlfriend actually went along with this self-punishment and decided to enable his identity crisis by calling herself "Thor", but what can you do?

@markwilburn1218

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think the Nordic myth ever said Thor had a thing for Nurses either...

@HPerfectH

6 жыл бұрын

Beta Ray Bill wielded Mjolnir but he didn’t become Thor - having the power of Thor and being Thor are totally a different thing.

@craiga.glesner424

5 жыл бұрын

Sure if the comic was published in say Norway where he's part of the local mythology but here in the secular USA we can mess with him because he's just a comic book character, kinda like Heracles. So, not based on a real cultural American icon or even a Scandinavian one, he's a a made up comic character who is loosely based on a piece of mythology.

Then why was his name Thor before he got the hammer .... backwards ass writing.

@TheSwooj

7 жыл бұрын

EbanSoul yea I really don't like that

the hammer doesnt want him to lift it anymore? that's trash writing. I was expecting Thor to have done something truly unworthy...

@jlcarid

7 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@aaronhapgood6383

7 жыл бұрын

Sociedade Nihilista i dont even now if this is the reason. why cant we ask mjolnir? it is obviously sentient

@hmFaTal238

7 жыл бұрын

Sentient Mjolnir.

@kuja025

7 жыл бұрын

sentient bullshit

@fabianbiere5653

7 жыл бұрын

if recall correctly from a previous video it was a sentient space storm how sentient is not said

Omg wow. thank you Rob! been waiting for this for so long! :')

I disagree with rob on being Jane an interesting Thor hell she isn't even an interesting character she don't have a personality but unworthy Thor on the other hand is just plain badass

@Theri4444

6 жыл бұрын

Jane was far more interesting as thor than thor himself and is my favorite thor altogether

@jeannietraverso903

6 жыл бұрын

Theri4444 I disagree,Throg was probably the best Thor.

@logan6034

6 жыл бұрын

Bias much?

Let me guess, The Unworthy Thor is the best thing to come out of DC rebirth, right?

@msrDeno

7 жыл бұрын

Kevin Khuu yes

@PlsDontReadThis123

7 жыл бұрын

Kevin Khuu its marvel though

@fila-sauce1193

7 жыл бұрын

Anthony Garcia joke

Best Thor run ever? Are you serious? Jason Aaron did amazing job with God Butcher, God Bomb, Last Days of Midgard, etc. but he completely dropped the ball with thus Jane Foster and Unworthy debacle. Having Thor become unworthy or Jane lifting Mjolnir isnt bad in itself, but the story around it is absolutly awful. Why turn his name into a mantle? Why have Jane steal his identity instead of being her own character the way Beta-Ray-Bill did? Why make Odin unable to control his own fuckin spell? Why focus on what Thor cannot do without his hammer instead of showcasing he is the God of Thunder no matter what tools he uses? Why make him a dumb hammer-junky? All of those plot holes are just bone headed decisions in my opinion... Having the whisper circle back to the plot line of Gorr's ideology is pretty clever and it would have worked in a better crafted story, but having pop up in the middle of nowhere like that when it hasnt came up anywhere since ANAD just falls flat. The best runs of Thor is and will always remain Walt Simonson.

@gabbonoo

6 жыл бұрын

Why turn it into a mantle? because it distances the powers from the identities. Why not have jane gain different powers? because the less expected conflict between the familiar is generally more intrinsic to immersion. Why cant he control "his" spell? The nature of spells is a primal and sentient catalyst of momentary whims, not identities. Why make him an Asgardian man instead of the hero-god of thunder? Because weakness is a reason to change, to grow or perish. Why make him obsessive and fearful? Because character flaws can be a better villain than antagonists.

@bigbowss9817

6 жыл бұрын

Elliott Bohringer 1) Thor is a name, not a power. It is litterally a norse male name still used in Icelandic and Scandinavian countries, there is nothing to distinguish. His title/mantle is God of Thunder, so taking his place in Asgardian pantheon is one thing, stealing his name and identity is another. 2) I never taked about her having different powers, I said becoming a character of her own. Beta-Ray-Bill has essentially the same powers as Thor safe a few differences, but he has values and positions in Marvel cosmos that are unique to him. She doesnt, she litterally copied Thor's personality and added sexist bs such as female villains refusing to fight her because she's a woman, Freyja favoring her because she's female and other crap like which she has never earned by performing feats of her own, but by everyone else bowing down to her in desperate attempt to make readers like her. 3) What has identities anything to do with spells?! Odin put the spell on the hammer, he should be able to remove it at any time, none of this "spell evolved beyond the caster" crap is gonna cut it when Odin enchanted weapons and beings far beyond Mjolnir's power and they've held longer and since before the hammer was even forged, so thats plot convience, pure and simple, so to not allow Odin to take it from her, thats it. 4) Thor is powerful being in his own right, making him unworthy was perfect opportunity to showcase that he isnt useless without needing external artifacts to amp up his power. Yes, he is more vulnerable, but instead of showing his ability to adapt to this new situation and develop new ways to approach conflicts, he runs around trying to find new cluthches to sit on. They didnt evolve his character, they just downgraded him. 5) And that last point is complete and utter shit. Thor has character flaws already: arrogance, superiority complex, attack first/ask questions later, etc.. Making him fearful is complete rupture of his character as being courageous and fearless are some of his greatest qualities. Following Gorr ideology's being right, he should be doubtful of his place in the world, put in question the need for Earth to still have gods, but not his own noble values. So not only did they create entirely new flaws for him, but their ascendent from his best qualities. You sound like a guy who havent actually read about Jane Thor/Unworthy Thor &/or know nothing about Thor Odinson and just spouted generic lines to look like you how writers craft stories. Sorry but you cant bring idiotic points like that when you dont know if it applies or not to the character -_-

@gabbonoo

6 жыл бұрын

1) thor is mythological familiarity used commonly in the entertainment industry and adapted and changed radically for slight uniqueness. 2) she didnt literally copy his personality, i dont even know how to respond with how blatantly far off that is. if Heroic and reckless = personality, then you arent yet qualified to summarise. Youre right about the lack of innovation in powers. 3) it was said in the vid, the hammer doesnt comply with the spell completely since it has a will to interpret what and who and if "thor" even is. They havnt delved into the intricacies of spells in the comics far as i can see, so this may or may not have been the way its always been. this part is mostly your preference and since it seems too necessary to the plot and lacks foreshadowing, your against. 4) yes it seems like a missed opportunity. it's kinda like a Dr Who episode where you use all your good material and simply have him run away. 5) he's always had those fears but they havnt been covered in this detail; there is lots to suggest it, unlike the spell stuff. youre right about where im coming from, but it's important to understand the objectivity of your points and how much the writers must understand as well. at most, i would accuse them of treating the readers like those of an arc anime(atmosphere>plot hole proofing), but i wouldnt accuse them of butchering thor.

@bigbowss9817

6 жыл бұрын

Elliott Bohringer 1) Thor is a name associated to a mythological deity, because its part of public domain doesnt change that (and doesnt make it entertainment familiarity term, how ridiculous is that lol). 2) She did; she has no personality traits of her own. Jane Foster was always a boring character and lame Lois Lane copycat. She was meant to "ground Thor to humanity" the way Lois did for Superman, but it never worked and as Thor they expected to make her relevant again. The only unique thing about her is how cancer somehow made her worthy (and it does make sense since its established that certain people can be worthier in desperate situations), but thats not personality. As Thor, she is reduced to a gender swap with terrible writing around her. There are tons of existing underdeveloped female characters in Thor mythos: Sif, Amora, Hela, Gaea, Angela, Idùn, Karnilla, etc. and she's just overshadowing them even further... 3) Rob imports some of his own assumptions in the video. The only explanation given is spell evolving beyond Odin's control. The hammer doesnt make you Thor, it grants worthy individuals his power. Odin created that spell and there is no reason he cant unmake it. Its sentience was given by Odin, its power comes from holding a portion of the OdinForce within it, all things open to his control. It has nothing to do with my personal preferences, its just plot convinience taking precedence over continuity and thats a mark of bad writing... 4) Well seems we're in agreement on that at least. 5) Stop the damage control, he never had those flaws, fearlessness was always his strenght. Doubt about his place in the universe (which would have been an appropriate plot line) and fear of not being worthy and feeling of being worthless without his hammer (which is what they are going for) arent the same thing and the latter is an insult to his character. Taking readers for idiots is sign of bad writing and ignoring/changing core elements of the character in favor of promoting an agenda is an insult to the character as far as Im concerned. Anyway, everyone has their taste of stories, you can like what you want, we dont have to agree on this. Just know this current run is in opposition with 50 years of continuity for the character and a slap in the face to anyone that was a fan of the continuity built by Marvel for him during this time...

@gabbonoo

6 жыл бұрын

your logic is strange and youre reading too much into what ive said plainly... i get your point though. bad change is bad, if not lazy, it was definitely lacking in compliance with our wants for believable continuity and familiarity enough to immerse

Peter parker: miles. hero are my web shooters. you are now Peter Parker. Peter Parker (MM): what random guy( PP): yup. my name was a title. I'm nobody now.

When did Thor learn to do armament haki ???

@EdenSgrave

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking lmao

Thor has relayed on Mjolnir too much , which he has said in his past comics himself. Thor is still Thor with and without Mjolnir , he just needs to gain his confidence again to get his abilities back which he does in Unworthy Thor issue 5. Also why can't THOR fly without Mjolnir? He has done it before by controlling the Wind like Storm , and wouldn't every time Thor throws Mjolnir in mid air make him fall?

@-m.d.n-9019

7 жыл бұрын

Kryptonian Excellence yeah , everyone looks over that . Even Ultimate Thor can be seen levitating without spinning his hammer .

@tomasxfranco

7 жыл бұрын

*relied

"How the Thor became Unworthy" is the weakest reveal, strung out and teased for far longer than it was worth in the end. But, as Rob said, any answer would have evoked that reaction -- Even if they dropped it into the original story and we knew it back then, it would have been at the very least interesting, seeing Thor descend into the abyss of self-doubt and justify Gorr's opinion. Now it's just... meh. Bland. Thinly spread. Lacking flavour.

@poppyharlov6853

7 жыл бұрын

Yewd Notisum dude spoilers...

@Warlundrie

7 жыл бұрын

I think th's the best thing they could have done and I did enjoy it for what it was. It was far better than some of the other thor stories I've read. I'm hopefull for when he gets his own hammer back

@ruyman90

7 жыл бұрын

Honestly I expected something like "the real Thor has been death long ago" Imagine someone whose name was actually Thor, was redheaded, and was the one whose powers are sealed in the hammer. While Odinson be a different son or maybe even adopted. Now that would be a surprise that would make Odinson think he isn't worthy of be called Thor and explain why they use the name Thor as a title.

@trebot9292266

7 жыл бұрын

less of an opinion and more of an inference.

He became unworthy because Nick Fury said to him that he is white and male.

Whispered words of Nick Fury : " You cant lift bro" Drops hammer on moon

people wondering what nick fury said.. "Bitch you geussed it!...." "gorr was right"

@warAkAsacrifice

6 жыл бұрын

HEHEHE I AM A SUPAHSTAR SKETCH [ace736] 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Strongly disagree. Thor is the "SON" of Odin period. Jane Foster is a bad idea outta control.

Wow. This is one of your best videos yet. Great job. You explain these stories so well. Thank you.

jane being thor had like the lowest sales while Odinson did not.

@SuperSilver316

4 жыл бұрын

it didn't, that is factually incorrect in every way, they sold about the same, and the numbers back that up

One of the reasons why almost everyone would be unhappy with the answer as to what was said to make Thor unworthy was that it was a horrible plot device the entire wrapped up concept was just weak. Most of the run was quite good this part however was not.

Would love to hear about Infamous Iron Man!

this was awesome Rob

DUUUDE thank you so much for that!! I rlly enjoyed it!

I've been waiting for this for over a year

@1000aaronaaronaaron

7 жыл бұрын

just buy the comic......... bitch

“I’m writing the book and the character is whatever I say he is” DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!

Amazing commentary, my brother in law suggested your channel and it didn't disappoint. Looking forward to more videos!

great work!Subscribed!

So apparently this run is what Marvel is going to adapt for Thor: Love and Thunder. While it’s a good story, I have no clue how they plan to do it. Comic Thor gets his powers from the Hammer, whereas in the MCU, the Hammer is powered by Thor. Also, it doesn’t exist anymore. Taika Waititi has got his work cut out for him...

@rohanalias9053

3 жыл бұрын

It's taika waititi.thats the only hope

@MauZangetsu

Жыл бұрын

@@rohanalias9053 welp this aged like milk

@rohanalias9053

Жыл бұрын

@@MauZangetsu I'm flabbergasted too

Dope channel I subbed!!! Peace!

another awesome video man. enjoy your insight. keep them coming!!!

wow ! awesome story! very nice told! best video so far from you ! really love your content ! can't wait to hear more !! :)

I am addicted to these videos the same way Thor is addicted to his hammer.

Stopped at "I like Jane Foster Thor more than Odinson."

Damn dude, just watched a couple of your videos and I am blown away! Thanks for the content! :)

It was wonderful recap: thanks for the video!

I'm going to say the guy who picks up the ultimate Thor's axe at the end, and became "War Thor", is going to be a guy working with Galactus (Lifebringer) and will be a part of his "team" he started making a while back. (I think he was making a team to be ready to deal with that whole chained multiverse version of eternity thing)

Thor is not a title. That is his name. Just like Odin Borson... his father, and so forth. I personally dislike Jane Foster and the direction Marvel has gone with its Social Justice campaign. Hopefully marvel gets back to some basics... I like the Spiderverse epic, the Marvel Zombies, and the classic tales. Deadpool seems to be the only serious marvel comic out there....but hey... Evil Empire looks interesting.

@thwwinner6138

5 жыл бұрын

I agree

Awesome video well done.

I love Jason's writing style; callbacks, connecting plot points over long periods of time are amazing storytelling

Rob I like you and your video but this twist was Lllaaaammmmeeeee

@Ike_of_pyke

7 жыл бұрын

I'd like to follow up with a direct response to you saying "Well no answer would be good " there are better answers than the one presented, the fact is Thor should have realized long ago Gorr was right, he's fought people including other gods for hundreds/thousands of years, he's been around the Greek pantheon which is the highest example of Gorr's point. The fact it took him this much out of it makes me wonder how he hasn't been before.

Not gonna lie love unworthy thor as well he waaaaaaay more badass now because he struggling and give more than he got

I'm not a comic book reader. But, I truly appreciate this channel. My older brother is an avid reader and knows all of these stories. He always suggest I start reading them. But I never did. I always loves the cartoons and movies, just never read the books. But, now I'm a truck driver and this channel to me is like watching mini TV shows. Keep up the good work.

Thank you Rob, for posting this. This is what good story telling is all about. I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO TAKE THIS TO HEART. VERY GOOD LESSON. A LIKE FROM ME.

Thor isn't a title.

This is definitely not the best Thor run

@theblitzbot5447

5 жыл бұрын

By Jason Aaron probs

@nappyhead82

5 жыл бұрын

Y'all both forgetting about Godbomb

just wanted to let u know bro u r awesome sometimes I forget to like the video cause I just let them just play through but would give u thumbs up for everyone I seen so far but I really enjoy ur videos I listen to them while I'm at work really helps time go by n it's really cool to learn about the in-depth marvel/dc u go into wen telling the stories learned a lot from ur videos thanks a lot bro keep up the great work need more youtubbers like u have a blessed day

Rob I couldn't wait for you to do a video on this one!!!!

Great job as usual Rob. I'm looking forward to more Thor. Unfortunately, I'm still taking issue with Nick Fury bringing down Thor. It's not because I don't like Nick, I think he's one of the most complex characters in the marvel universe and I'm not happy about what Marvel has done with him. I just don't think he was connected to Thor enough to be able to cause that much doubt. Especially since there were others that could of done it like Steve Rogers, Odin, Jane Foster, even Beta Ray Bill. Why not use Loki. As good as the saga has been, it seems flawed now. The length of time that has past may have perhaps made expectations too high. I look forward to reading Jane Foster Thor, but I don't that this final reveal is good enough for Odinson fans. Am I knit picking, 100 percent. Considering how Thor has change, they should have made it perfect.

I can't believe Rob is drinking that Foster Thor koolaid.

Thanks for your videos, this education helped me get into comic books.

Cool video! Thanks.

"Gorr was right.." Jason Aarons mic drop. 👍

This might be a stupid question but why is his hand black from the bicep down

@stephenmontez3545

7 жыл бұрын

kevin x. Apparently he got it cut off and Odin replaced it with an arm made out of Uru metal.

Thank you so much. You are truly worthy, my friend.

Subscribed!

THOR ODINSON IS THE ONLY THOR. I hate Jane Imposter Foster.

@farazatul6091

5 жыл бұрын

C MM yep me too

@jahirlopez1808

5 жыл бұрын

C MM yup

What music is that in the outro? Does anyone know? Rob?

Thank for videos you keep update on comics world thanks aging

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to pick these up ASAP!!!!!!!! GOTS TO HAVE IT!!!!!!

What 👏happened 👏to 👏Thor's 👏arm?

@SuperSilver316

4 жыл бұрын

Malekith cut it off

@daviddiaz6150

4 жыл бұрын

In what run did thor lost his arm and in which one he couldnt lift mjolnir?

When were Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive confirmed for Thor: Ragnarok?

Rob, I think you may have just inspired me to buy my first physical comic run. :)

Great video...!!!

Thats why i like Tor more, the TRUE nordic god of thunder !

Okay look at his name. Thor Odinson,God of Thunder. Odinson,Son of Odin,that's a title. God of Thunder,that's a title. Thor. That's his name,the only part of his name that is actually a name.

Awesome. please upload as many Thor videos as you did Hulk

great story Rob!

Were those like sparkles

I sense they are sewing the seeds for the Thanos and Hela connection I think we're going to see in the movies. Hela taking Death's role in infinity war...

@whistlerwade

7 жыл бұрын

oh shit, I should have finished the video first before commenting and repeating Rob.

I'm not a Thor guy really but whoever the artist is here makes me want to buy this. Lots of great work with Thor.

Thank you for being the nerd I don't have time to be. This channel kicks ass. Thanks Rob