If you’re wondering why there’s a cursor in the visual novel footage, it’s because I used an AI upscaling tool to make the window above 480P, since the visual novel is ancient, and the cursor is a side effect that I can’t get rid of, unfortunately. Also, I made a Discord server! You can join it here: discord.gg/c9wz9yJcA7

@IdOnThAvEaUsE69

Ай бұрын

What a side effect lmao. Adding cursors into the video. Also... It's got that old-school Code Geass artstyle...

@upeo12

Ай бұрын

​@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Code Geass and Muv Luv, my two favorite franchises, still, I don't think the artstyle is nearly similar lol

@IdOnThAvEaUsE69

Ай бұрын

@@upeo12 Think so? I think they've got the same old-school artstyle going for both of them. Both have the big eyes and other exaggerated features. I'm not complaining tho, it's just not my cup of tea.

@upeo12

Ай бұрын

@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69 nah cuz remember Code Geass got them stickman proportions for the characters lol

@destroyer68175

Ай бұрын

Oh, btw the Project Mikhail game leaves early access on the 26-27th this month according to an update, and its getting (all?) its online stuff removed and turned into an offline only game.

They didn't even get a Persona 5 collab

@victrollin

Ай бұрын

I-impossible! Everyone got a Persona 5 and/or NieR collab!

@eleternauta2640

Ай бұрын

Or even Nier Automata: 2B collaboration!

@CruelestChris

Ай бұрын

​@@victrollin Nikke even has collabs it _didn't_ get, such as not-Fischl and not-an-Azur-lane-character!

@Demonskunk

Ай бұрын

I heard they were going to announce it during their 7 hour anniversary.

@the13thjoker

Ай бұрын

They need to put Ryu in the game !

Love Live had the gall to release an EN gacha AND ANNOUNCE THE SHUTDOWN DATE IN A SINGLE TWEET.

@MrBangijal

Ай бұрын

To be fair, they have to do it since the JP version is shutting down as well

@therranolleo468

Ай бұрын

They wanted to rake in as much from their localization work as possible, imagine giving birth to a child and telling that kid when exactly they're gonna die

@PipimiOden

Ай бұрын

​@@MrBangijalIt's a weirdly hilarious story to me, even WITH context

@lanceolson5988

Ай бұрын

Imagine if it raked in a shit-ton of money from the ultimate FOMO and games only being online for a very short window of time became the norm. *shudders*

@mizamelon

Ай бұрын

It gets even worse when you remember that the eng and jp servers were supposed to release simultaneously... only for the eng server to get delayed up until the jp server was getting shut down... and for the eng server to only be up for 2 months...

Ok but shutting down in just 6 hours is crazy. That’s the duration of my school hours.

@IdOnThAvEaUsE69

Ай бұрын

Mine goes to 8 and higher...

@nemuiexe

Ай бұрын

yall americans dont go to school at 8 and go back home at 17 pm!!?!?!

@lucastlsuen6287

Ай бұрын

yeah

@Ramsey276one

Ай бұрын

You could have spotted the game in the morning and be unable to play when you got home! XD

@patriciavidaamor

Ай бұрын

Mine was just 4 hours 7:30 to 11:30

>Immortal >6 Hours lifespan

@RayShadow278

Ай бұрын

Very fitting, if you consider the life-span of TSF Pilots in-universe lmao

@WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo

Ай бұрын

What did they mean by this?

@aynejager7497

Ай бұрын

Because in universe, due to casualties, there is a superstition of 8 minutes of death that newbie pilots have to expect If they survive it, only then are they considered real pilots

@humand0969

Ай бұрын

close enough

@lanceknightmare

Ай бұрын

Immortals can live indefinitely. They are not invincible. You also have an extended life group like Nicolas Flamel, Billy the Kid, etc. Who were mortal, though were granted an extended life through some means. For Nicolas Flamel, it was the Sorcerers Stone.

Muv Luv fan: "Oh boy, a Muv Luv gatcha, I can't wait to play it after my shift ends"

@kc5946

Ай бұрын

This made me lol because there was someone in that position for sure

@ZontarDow

Ай бұрын

@@kc5946 The pain of a Muv Luv gatcha shutting down so fast is completely on brand for Muv Luv.

@shiranuii

Ай бұрын

@@ZontarDow chomp chomp

@CID-Tanya

Ай бұрын

....I did said that bruh....I been muv luv fan since kid...and I just can't believe it got shut down while I was away for a bit like bruh

@TheZackofSpades

Ай бұрын

💀

What's worse, shutting down in 6 hours or announcing EOS before the game even dropped (Love Live School Idol Festival 2 💀)

@ogrim0

Ай бұрын

What

@Darkriders100

Ай бұрын

@@ogrim0 Love Live School Idol Festival 2 global server is announced that the game will eos at the same time as they announced the game itself. The reason is due to JP server is already eos before global version is finished developed I believe.

@MeltedGeneral

Ай бұрын

@@Darkriders100 JP server was still active at the time. In fact before the Global version start/termination date was announced, they announced the JP server was going to be EOS.

@MrInsiipid

Ай бұрын

@@MeltedGeneral Thats.. what they said, fam.

... spill bro, you just wanted to talk about muvluv

@Reydriel

Ай бұрын

I'm glad tho, I've heard the talk about this years ago when I was still interested in reading VNs (before I stopped having time for that) so him giving an overview of it all without spoiling too much was great

@izutonura810

Ай бұрын

And I respect him for it. Despite glowing reviews, it's still very much an underrated series still.

@Markm8

Ай бұрын

Hey i have context for a-lot of memes now so i am happy

@parasyteIRL

23 күн бұрын

I never even heard of it and it does sound interesting, I'm glad he gave all the context at the start

@littlecake453

19 күн бұрын

I mean, to be fair, I'm invested in muvluv now.

In an alternate timeline, it is Muv Luv Alternative that spawn dozens of light novels, mangas, video game spin off, billions of dollars earning gacha, anime done with care and love that can join the pantheon of mecha greats such as Gundam, Macross and Evangelion. While Fate would be the one struggling to stay relevant and is drowned in the ocean of products on the theme of "historical legendary and mythical figures as cute girls".

@shutup1037

Ай бұрын

Cope

@nicolaitakahashi9520

Ай бұрын

​@@shutup1037different timeline different expectations I suppose

@gokillyourselfgoogle

Ай бұрын

I mean it is decently known in the vn sphere has had several anime and fairly well received manga and some videogames. Theres a mech game on steam and even the mobile game hes talking about isnt actually gone they just took a few months to fix its issues before relaunching it under a different name and its been up for almost a year now. Its not fate but its definitely not some obscure indie franchise.

@Eisakou

Ай бұрын

Oh, haha I get it.

@dieptrieu6564

Ай бұрын

That will never happen if we have the same audiences. Mecha is always a niche genre even the all time great franchise like gundam isn't that big. Whereas selling sexy girl and historical figure is a way more relatable story than giant robot

I didn't expect to hear muv luv again after nearly 20 years

@ohama4272

Ай бұрын

INTERGRADE WILL COME THIS YEAR, TRUST THE PLAN

@jongwastaken

Ай бұрын

@@ohama4272 honestly at this point i am more excited about resonative, TDA was a lot better than i expected

@upeo12

Ай бұрын

​@@jongwastaken so many weird codenames, what the heck is resonative and intergrade 🥺

@jongwastaken

Ай бұрын

@@upeo12 So basically TDA stands for "The Day After" which is a direct sequel to Muv-Luv Unlimited. It shows the aftermath of the "Alternative V" plan. Despite being a sequel, this should not be read before Muv-Luv Alternative. TDA was released in an episodic manner, and currently there are four of these episodes released. The final episode was kinda in limbo for a while, until they re-announced it under the name "Muv-Luv Resonative". Integrade on the other hand is a sequel to Muv-Luv Alternative, though not many details are known about its plot. We basically only have concept art of it at this point (in the form of a trailer), and a release date has not been announced yet. Hope this clears it up :)

@upeo12

Ай бұрын

@@jongwastaken it does! Thank you, nice to meet a fellow MLA fan too

No matter how bad Genshin and Fate fans think they got it, at least they aren't Muv Luv fans.

@TheRedJadex

Ай бұрын

What if you're a fan of all 3?

@kingbash6466

Ай бұрын

@@TheRedJadex I'm sorry for your loss.

@enderdudebruh8270

Ай бұрын

​@@TheRedJadexwe gotta put you down. look at the bunny for me

@snoopyodig1137

Ай бұрын

Genshin fans are much worse 💀💀💀💀

@zeroyuki92

Ай бұрын

​@@kingbash6466 Dang that was me, although all of them are in the different stage of life (OG FSN VN fan, years later loving MLA, and then now casually playing Genshin). Thankfully Genshin is the only one of those three where I play it as a gacha game, and even for Genshin I can already say that I'm playing it mostly just for music and story.

Ye they tried to be FGO 💀 I still cannot process how a modern gacha game tries to have a 1% drop rate for SSR in 2023

@zenithdex3181

Ай бұрын

This reminded me of how Blazeblue tried to be fgo and failed in like under a year.

@Estheriam

Ай бұрын

>Genshin and HSR at .6% base rates

@KinghtofZero00

Ай бұрын

​@@Estheriamyes but they also have a pity system

@federicofilippini6780

Ай бұрын

And? The pity is also a really bullshit one with only a 50 percent chance to get the pity and if u fail the first u need to pity again let me tell ya it’s fucking put there just to drain ya of money as any other.

@demometalico8074

Ай бұрын

@@federicofilippini6780 fgo pity would like to visit your wallet soon 🥰

I thought this was going to be about the Love Live spinoff that announced its end of service date before it even launched. But even that got two months of live time.

@therranolleo468

Ай бұрын

It afforded that 2 months life time due to over a decade of name recognition and build up from a very popular franchise, Muv Luv can afford no such luxery coming from a niche genre in an even nicher medium of visual novels

The only thing I know about MuvLuv is that one meme about "If you scream, I will choke you with my breast"

@masterace9543

Ай бұрын

That's one way to go out 😅

@supercoolmaniajon265

Ай бұрын

I saw that meme!

@fallenstars8775

Ай бұрын

Wait THATS where it originated?! Cool.

@anggarakarana4118

Ай бұрын

​@@fallenstars8775 Yeah, to be exact the meme picture is taken from the manga

@ambrose3560

Ай бұрын

That's muvluv? Lmaooo

The muv luv VNs are masterpieces imo and after that they were unable to keep the franchise afloat, even the devs said if the gacha failed that was the end of the franchise (this was because they invested on NFTs and failed lol), personally I prefer to treasure the memories the franchise gave me instead of seeing it being desecrated.

@user-wg1fp4zn6s

Ай бұрын

Lol

@KazeMemaryu

Ай бұрын

Oh god, so they're really just selling out. That's disappointing.

@Jame-zz4tu

Ай бұрын

The thing is they invest too much on anime industry rather than make another thing or focus on gacha game.

@sayn2125

Ай бұрын

I mean the keycards sold well and didn't even end up being NFTs.

@ultimate.25

Ай бұрын

Ofc it's nfts.....

muv-luv girls got them geometric hairs.

It's kind of sad to see where Muv-Luv is now. From what I've read, the series deserved its praise. It's a shame that instead of the company investing in a standard video game, LNs, or other media, they chose a gacha game with no pity system post Genshin launch. It was doomed to fail. There's just way too nuch competiton and the bugs definitely didn't help. Its just sad to see.

@TheFeri

Ай бұрын

still isn't as bad as baldr got...

@grgspunk

Ай бұрын

It's poetic justice as far as I'm concerned. After Age restructured to form aNCHOR, they took the western publishing rights to Extra and Alternative away from Sekai Project/Denpasoft, instead opting to publish the western releases themselves. While that isn't bad on its own, Denpasoft offered R-18 patches for both games prior to aNCHOR's takeover. Once aNCHOR took over, they forced Denpasoft to take both patches down and refused to sell them themselves. They deserved to suffer for that.

13:47 LIMBUS COMPANY MENTIONED!!!!!!!

@jolecaes2517

Ай бұрын

Bring the 300 lunacy

@HarambaeXelonmuskfans

Ай бұрын

Ahh that’s why this has been recommended to me lol

@0sikin094

Ай бұрын

😅

@mwuilchku8548

Ай бұрын

Pm sleeper agents detected lol

@pawcio2133

Ай бұрын

Glory to Limbus Company

Everytime people say visual novels are a dying game genre my mind always just thinks of ddlc and how hard it popped off

@therranolleo468

Ай бұрын

DDLC was a lightning in a bottle, a flash that's but a moment in the internet history

@AveryLovesGlitchcore

Ай бұрын

@@therranolleo468 a really bright flash at that

@Koel_Hellion

Ай бұрын

More luck than anything else tbh

@Ratio429

Ай бұрын

​@@therranolleo468 Then there's Danganrampa.

@user-us9yg5wq6i

Ай бұрын

That's like one game......

13:47 PROJECT MOON MENTIONED

@anboard

Ай бұрын

SLEEPER AGENT ACTIVE

@thatoneotheridiot3361

Ай бұрын

I’m a goddamn sleeper agent. I saw Limbus Company and my head snapped to my tablet, immediately scrolling down to see the comments.

@saintfloof7198

Ай бұрын

Do they know...?

@faebees5793

Ай бұрын

Our power grows...

@theguywhichismessingaround

Ай бұрын

GLORY TO AYIN

God that currency issue is probably one of the second funniest ones I have heard. Only thing weirder for me was the one I personally experienced in one piece treasure cruise. And that happened twice in that game's history...

@masterco4335

Ай бұрын

Like seriously the two times they messed up were big.

@aegisScale

Ай бұрын

Yeah the moment I heard the game had an infinite money glitch everything made sense. I could just imagine the dev's faces upon learning about the exploit💀💀💀

@WindyWooshes

Ай бұрын

What happened with TC?

This... This was Muv Luv's last chance or so i heard... So most likely we won't get the chronicles animated or the last chapter of day after... So sad to see my favourite franchise sink and die so horrible.

@Catheur

Ай бұрын

It hurts.

@tictok8208

Ай бұрын

lol all they care about now is nft and ai.

@AoiUsagiOtoko

Ай бұрын

it's almost fitting in a meta way, that this series ends in such a heartbreaking manner :') it hurts, man

@aguskan5827

Ай бұрын

Gacha is open rn and making money lol

seeing the UN blue helmets in a early 2000s visual novel was a jumpscare

Not gonna lie, i got so intrigued with the visual novel story of how it went from typical rom-com visual novel and then went full into sci-fi that i forgot this was a video about a failed gacha game

I think this story shows that not everything needs to be a massive, expansive franchise. Sometimes just telling a story and leaving it at that is the best way to go. It’s better to end things on a high note than to drag it on and leave fans disappointed and frustrated. I do feel for the devs though, it must have been hell going through the effort of developing a game like that just for it to shut down in six hours. At least they were able to relaunch it

You know this guy is a true fan when he can actually pronounce âge correctly. Just a few corrections, this isnt the first gacha from the muv-luv franchise, there was another one years ago called Muv-Luv Alternative: Strike Frontier, which was set in an alternative reality were a important "unit" is different, was a really cool game, had a chibi artstyle for the in game models and a FGO style of gacha. About Immortals, i was there playing it because i'm a massive fan of the franchise, the idea of the game was fine until you played it, it was kind of miserable, and actually make sense to be like that, Immortals was basically done by one person that had never done a full project before as far as i remember, thats why it took a year and a half to come back because a proper studio called Next Ninja came in the project to redo the whole game, it was kinda ugly, there was a video of the producer of the franchise and the developer apologizing that was really somber, i think its still up in the muv-luv japanese youtube channel. The game right now is fine, they implemented the whole visual novel now in the game but it still feels like a cash grab, the story as far as i readed was not good, it was just disappointing, there were a lot of projects that rubbed the fans the wrong way in this period of time, like the NFT project as well as this gacha, and for some, the anime, but if that is the price to get Resonative, Integrate and Eurofront i would be fine. I would have said that this was the last place that i would have thought that i see something muv-luv related, but i would be lying, it wouldnt even be on my mind, goated video.

@Unbelievablyunfunny

Ай бұрын

Next Ninja actually worked on another lesser known gacha game called "Touhou lostword" which is a non canon spinoff of the touhou games that's....fine I guess?? There's better non canon licensed touhou gacha game spinoffs that are even MORE obscure (genso eclipse, that one rhythm game that shutdown and turned into a steam game) also the touhou community heavily despises touhou lostword because the writers of the visual novel parts thought heavily putting fanon into the game and marketing it as a "game where people who want to learn about touhou can play!" was a great idea but idk

@Pseychie_NIKKE

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the clarification! I didn’t read anything other than the original trilogy, and I didn’t even know they tried an NFT project

@jenkips9026

Ай бұрын

​@@Pseychie_NIKKE, I would definitely recommend giving the spin-offs a try. Especially the three main ones: The Day After, Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken (when (if) it get translated in English). They not quite stood up to the masterpiece that the original trilogy is, but they still great on its own.

@IlyaCatWithABrush

Ай бұрын

Feels pretty nice to know a fellow âge fan remember Strike Frontier. And then there's also Next Answer before that.😂

@Catheur

Ай бұрын

We don't talk about next answer or strike frontier lol.

“VN crazed during highschool”, you and me both. Aha….I played a bit too much secretly during comp.sci., intermedia art, music tech., and basically any class that has access to a PC during free time. Had pretty much all the popular VN on a flash drive. Got caught playing Saya no Uta, luckily on the non-spicy moment and especially not on some of the other titles.

@gokiburi9

Ай бұрын

if i got caught playing saya no uta that would pretty much be the end for me

@Hetsu..

Ай бұрын

@@gokiburi9 id be cooked

To add to the insanity of video the head dev for the first iteration of immortals was a literal who that kouki yoshimune (og creator and writer for muv luv) picked up from like a twitter thread after he said ¨yeah Id make a baller game instead of your last failure lol¨ and then proceeded to eat a horse meat ramen on releae date with the uma musume hashtag, this absolute failure was so full of himself he thought he had an uma killer in his hands.

@zeroyuki92

Ай бұрын

I think Kouki by now is cursed to have anything he produced to be mediocre at best at first iteration, and only went better at the next iterations. OG Trilogy of Muv Luv simply succeeded because his first iteration (Extra + Unlimited) actually sold pretty well and he used his entire fortune to finish the second iteration (MLA)

@Masitu0031

Ай бұрын

English is not my first language but I want to reiterate your claim. So, Mr. Kouki (muv luv gacha head dev guy) ate horse meat ramen and dissed uma musume on Twitter?

@sakurakaslana8716

Ай бұрын

@@Masitu0031 , nope. Mr Kouki is the original creator of Muv Luv series. The one that diss Uma Musume is the head dev of the EOS-ed Immortals

@Masitu0031

Ай бұрын

@@sakurakaslana8716 that clarifies it. Thank you.

@alvianfajar9570

17 күн бұрын

I am perplexed by what that guy doing. Uma Musume Killer? Seriously? You can't kill another game if it has different gameplay lmao, since you know outside of gacha genre it can't be directly compared

As a VN fan who doesn't give a crap about Gachas It was nice to hear someone talk about the Muv Luv gacha, And one of many failed attempts for a vn company To go for the gachas money banks But was also nice to hear songs from stuff like Subahibi and Kara no Shoujo, I can tell you were once a big story VN fan That said while VNs are "technically" becoming less popular. There are still good stuff coming out with the last several years. In particular, we've been getting a lot of official translations of good stuff

@superspicysoysauce8231

Ай бұрын

Had to wait 20 years for Dies Irae and Muramasa translation. And such comedic timing that mtl starting to get good enough around the same time that indies VN/rpgmaker game can get translation less than few months.

@fg009letyrds8

Ай бұрын

Muv Luv definitely can branch out of its VN Roots and diversify, like bruh there's still so much to explore in Alternative. Muv Luv failed solely because AGE is utterly incompetent. Imagine waiting for more than a decade before creating an Anime Adaptation of Muv Luv, and then skipping Extra and Unlimited and just going straight to Alternative. Too little to late, too greedy too despite their incompetence.

@greenlitlleman

Ай бұрын

@@superspicysoysauce8231 GPT 4 truly raised MTL to another level entirely, it's hard to even notice that it's not an actual translation unless you play for a while. With some editing, you can get a decent translation in a week.

Unbelievable!! But this pretty much sums how is the current state of the gacha games, is not the first company to put all the eggs on the gacha genre basket, risking to lose it all in case of failure. In any case, I never heard about the muv-luv franchise, and now I'm very interested in playing/reading the firsts VN.

This was a fantastic video. I really enjoyed how you broke down the franchise as the start in a really digestible manner, BEFORE delving into the game itself. That kind of context is really important!

Holy cow, considering how rocky Nikke's launch was, I can't imagine trying to play a game near the beginning of the day and coming back after work or school and learning it's dead. I am so happy Nikke is where it is now. I just hope it sticks around for a long time.

@vanzeralltheway8638

Ай бұрын

Man.. How i wish i can also play nikke because i downloaded it early only to realize my phone's screen size isnt enouh for it...

Sounds to me like Age was flying way too close to the sun. Instead of tryingto break into an already oversaturated market with very little experience, they should've gone for crossovers. As a mix of Dating Sim and Mecha Battles, Muv-Luv could've fit in a wide variety of current gachas, including Nikke, Granblue, Honkai, and many more. I dunno if they really had a well-laid plan on continuing a story that from how I understand, is long concluded, or if this was a desperate attempt at staying relevant and making money, but yeah - the franchise is basically done for, regardless. It's either gacha hell or death, as some of the comments you showed put it.

"I don't think there's been a gacha game directly appealing to the mecha genre" Iron Saga look on in dissaproval, its a love letter to the mecha genre. There's also the SRW Gacha too, I guess.

@Darkoriax17

Ай бұрын

Super Robot Wars DD and X-Omega are/were amazing.

@charlotteshenkenberger345

Ай бұрын

Isn't Azur Lane effectively a mecha-ish game? I mean, you collected anthromorptized (I think that's the right word) WW2 ships.

@wlm174

Ай бұрын

@@charlotteshenkenberger345 Nah, shipgirls aren't mecha. That said, some of the AL girls (mostly Ironblood) get pretty Kaiju like with their riggings, which is hilarious.

You gained my sub simply by mentioning Chaos;Child, Baldr Sky and Muv Luv lol. Awesome video

By the 10 minute mark I had completely forgotten this was about a gacha game. I was just enjoying the visual novel review.

One of the Muv Luv immortal player, already progressed a lot within 3 hours after it's release, just to be logged in once again with infinite maintenance works. 😅

OH MAN, A GLIMSE AT THE PAIN THAT NEVER STOPS FOR THE MUV LUV FAN

Did not expect a section dedicated to Muv Luv VN but it is a surprise I am all for! Nice to see some surprise VN content, since I myself is a fan.

And you didnt mention the mess with the N-F-T-s. Fantastic video, its been a while since I read the VN but its nice that the series is still going

Muv Luv alternative is not only a banger visual novel, but also has one hell of a banger song.

took speedrunning to a whole new level 😂

For being in the apocolypse their hair look great, spotless fair skin and their cloths were perfect. We don't have that in a normal running world.

I frickin waited for Takt op. since the anime ended just to burned all my gacha currency and not get Cosette because the pity system frinkin sucks 😭😭

@ghoulchan7525

Ай бұрын

Was the story any decent?

@kosmosXcannon

Ай бұрын

​@@ghoulchan7525story was decent. What was horrible was the UI and all the miniloading.

@ghoulchan7525

Ай бұрын

@@kosmosXcannon oof.

@kosmosXcannon

Ай бұрын

@@ghoulchan7525 you know how navigate back and forth in menus? Imagine having it load between all the menus, where you haven't really changed anything to warrent the miniloading.

5:00 Guy reads visual novels and when you listen to the BGM around here, you hear the one from SubaHibi. Absolute Legend.

Dude, the overview of a highly regarded series within a niche genre was really cool. I had heard the name Muvluv before but I knew nothing about it. Great vid bro.

You read the Muv-Luv trilogy? I will follow you forever my man. 🤴

Wasn't there a gacha game way back when, where it had this time loop mechanic thing? And it repeats the story but with different outcomes? It was the most unique thing I saw in a gacha game. Then the devs suddenly threw the game under the bus and ran away with the money or something like that. Gacha rates we're horrible too. 😅😅

@Obs13ver

Ай бұрын

I remember playing a Gacha game that resets every 7 in game days

@leroyjenkins2030

Ай бұрын

That's Eternal City AKA Forever 7 Days. Man that was such a cool concept that got ruined

@JannieDaMannie

Ай бұрын

@@leroyjenkins2030 I remember how grindy that game was and how if you don't have the good characters, you're stuck in that loop lol.

7:39 No way, Oberon's battle theme???? Dude has a good taste B)

Thankyou..leave the dive into what it was, and how it happened..will check out Muv Luv now too!

I've never read a single visual novel before, but I really enjoyed listening to your passionate narration. Thank you.

Takt. Op was just... Sad... The anime was good, the world building is interesting and the characters are likeable. But it took so long for the game to release that all that hype from the anime was just gone. Even though I liked the anime, I couldn't be bothered to play the game cause I'm just not that interested w/ it anymore. I've already moved on from the hype that I felt from the anime.

Reading it was a trip back then. The many sprites they made make it look like it's an anime. The only thing I'll say about Muv-Luv Alternative is that it's a regressor story, and it's great.

9:34 hearing the outer wilds ost so suddenly made me emotional... Great video btw!

Im halfway through the vid and i had to pause just to metion the incredible quality and detail in this production. Damn, dude

A video series on obscure/forgotten gacha games would be good

@therranolleo468

Ай бұрын

You can make seasons and seasons of it just by talking about anime adaptation gacha games, seasonal anime that got adapted from manga/LN only to launch their own gacha mobile game not long after

They shut down as fast as Denmark surrender in ww2 which is crazy

First time watcher here and I thoroughly enjoyed your storytelling here. Even made me, someone who hates harem-genre-type-stuff, want to play muvluv to experience the novel firsthand.

I love how you've just expanded out to talk about Gacha games in general now

Wow this was a great video! Thank you for introducing me to the Muv-Luv!

@upeo12

Ай бұрын

Read the trilogy my dude, it's awesome

I feel baited since this was only "technically a shut down" case

@kanrakucheese

Ай бұрын

Years, a rebrand, and no data carry over,

Man, I remember this game. I actually was able to play it since I follow a lot of gacha channels on KZread that promotes new mobile games. Although, I didn't understand Japanese, I did enjoy the gameplay and the art. I had no idea it was shutdown indefinitely since I could no longer login the next day.

MLA with all my gripes with the story, was such a great read. This video brought back alot of good memories of when I first read it. Visual novels are so underrated.

When I first saw Total eclipce it was definetelly new expirience in anime, I had never seen seemingly main characters cast to die almost entierly in a span of 5 minutes in most horrible ways possible

What an insane story. Nice use of Oberon and Outer Wilds music btw 👍

Well at least this Gacha got actually released even for only 6 hours. Company light tried to make a Gacha based on their Shinza Banshou Series (Paradise Lost, Dies Irae, KKK) called Dies Irae -Pantheon- and actually ended up cancelling the thing as their parent company went under. Well at least Dies Irae got translated to english but still. Screw Gacha games.

Enjoyed the Oberon battle theme music, nice choice.

Interesting! Iron Saga is another mobile gacha. It's quite old at this point and not very popular I don't think, but it has its charm (and lots of collabs)!

It’s sad to have efforts put in and just thrown out the window. Hoping all these new gachas become successful and go big.

A critique: nothing you said in the plot summary of the original trilogy really affected the explanation of how the Gacha flopped (except for the "beta" joke). It would have been sufficient to bring up how it was incredibly popular and that it was mecha genre.

The whole trilogy is literally my core memory. One of my first if not the only series where i dedicate my time and emotion to play it. I went in blind and it took me a week to actually digest Alternative. I had to stop playing like 3 times in the middle of it because of Jinguji- Sensei, Sumika, and Meiya... Like dude i'm 16 at the time, that almost scars me for life. Well, maybe it did when i think about it knowing how different i am after that game.

Thx for the video!

If only the games I like would get revived like this... Cocktail Prince got their whole IP discarded, like it never existed, and Valkyrie Crusade is... well... with a gacha system like that in the modern day, it wouldn't make sense to come back . The rates were so low and pulls were so expensive that you were either a full-blown giga-whale, or you only got event cards/free-pull-ticket cards and spent all your gems on refreshes so you could rank in the events and timer resets for building. Kakupuri had more generous pulling income and better rates (especially when EoS was announced. you could basically infinitely pull and get all the cards you missed out on), but got killed because of Apple's changes to their store (the thing that got rid of 32 bit games. I'll never forgive them.)

@spinosaurus2001

Ай бұрын

COCKTAIL PRINCE MENTIONED OUGGHH

@jellifygirl

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@@spinosaurus2001 OH MY GOD NO WAY... THERE'S OTHERS LEFT!? WHERES YOUR SETTLEMENT??? WHO IS YOUR LEADER??!?!? DO YOU HAVE THE APP STILL??!?!?!?!????

Just found your channel, interesting and cool videos to be honest. It’d be really cool if you reviewed Arknights, personally my most favourite gacha game.

You are goated for using Oberon's OST

@cameraredeye3115

Ай бұрын

IKR I recognized that OST immediately when the violins picked up.

Great video!

Muv Luv being mentioned at least let’s go 😭

With a name like Beta they seems oddlly overpowered.

I'm invested in this now! Gonna finish Fate before starting this series!

MuvLuv, a series where its both so popular and underrated at the same time. A series where every adaptation of it is mid at best (i'm sorry Schwarzmarken and Total Eclipse). And hearing they're making gacha games because they need a fund making the Intergrade makes my heart sinks. Great video btw! Plus point for mentioning Baldr Sky!!

Well I never knew Muv LuV had a gacha. Not unexpected it would die fast. The railroaded story in alternative fucked things so badly that not even Alterd fable could fix the damage. Kinda stumbled along afterwards. So a gacha game wasn't going to fix anything. Another horrible "gacha" would be Breath of Fire 6. That was so bad it got boycotted by fans and shutdown fast. It's really sad to see old loved series get a mobile sequal just for the sole purpose burning to the ground.

“Why did this bug get through? Because there was no testing.” What you mean to say is they were just like every other scumbag devs who couldn’t be assed to do the bare minimum to makes sure they had a viable product because they just wanted to shovel it out to start raking in money. Ain’t no ambiguity about it.

Hey, there has technically been a mecha gacha game before, not sure if you've heard of it, it's called Honkai Impact 3rd, it's pretty popular for its pretty cinematics!

I noticed that Let it Die music, good taste brother

Too bad. I actually like the alternative Timeline

- VN - Japan - compare to Fate series It's P0rn isn't it?

Waiting on that Crown review!

Never think I don't see ya there with the Let It Die elevator music. I see you there. Good shit.

A really enjoyable video. Love Muv luv

Muv-Luv being talked about in 2024 in the context of a failed gacha game retrospect is a bit wild, but I'll still take it. If any of you actually decide to pick the VNs after this video, I salute you, enjoy the ride. First you Muv, then you Luv.

I'm genuinely happy you gave the praise that the visual novel deserves, even so far as going to cite the Attack on Titan mangaka, so people don't go thinking it's something genuinely bad. Thank you.

It's crazy that you could miss all of that while being at work or in school

Dam what a shame, Muv Luv is one franchise that deserve to be bigger. The abine wasn't that bad ... Well at least the side stories...

I'm sorry but, everything good until you used the t slur. Probably going to get hate comments here, but its still very inappropriate and harmful to say. I hope you have a good day.

Honestly, I think age should try getting back to their roots with classic VNs with good writing

I remember watching the fastest ending service, i dont remember its this one or other game that have same problem. But the thing that i remember is "Not preparing beta test before the game release" is the reason. Thats why alot of game taking their time for mulitple beta test to prevent something bad happening on the release

4:14 isnt the "trap" term pretty transphobic?

@wideozludrawz

Ай бұрын

yes very much so

@kanrakucheese

Ай бұрын

No. That would imply "passing" is an actual thing and not just a comedic trait of certain fictional characters. With all the resources in the world, the CIA concluded: "It's [...] impossible to turn a man into a woman" in appearance.

Are we seriously using trap like this in 2024 come on guys it’s not even cool it’s just straight up offensive

It must really suck to have all that work go down drain even if they brought it on themselves.

10:43 Gundam has had multiple gacha games over the years, the last one before Engage was one based off the Gundam Breakers series