That's why it's so hard to write characters that actually sound like different people and not the same person with different personalities

@Kat-pw8fo

21 күн бұрын

Perhaps try doing a writing exercise where you write like an author that you admire. That expands your internal voice. When I was in high school creative writing my teacher had my class do that for a writing assignment, and I apparently had Oscar Wilde's "voice" engrained so much in my head that those writing similarity detector bots gave me a 100% match to Oscar Wilde. If you can just imagine the voice and tone in your head, that'll expand into your characters. Script writing also helps, especially if you have a group of friends to read your writing out loud.

@robinrehlinghaus1944

21 күн бұрын

Writing fictional characters literally is the latter though. You can't become a second individual to write differently

@flamingturnip

21 күн бұрын

I mean, yeah. I think about this all the time. If someone tried, they could likely guess where in the world I learned English based on my writing. BUT. Ive got ways of making my characters sound different from each other. I try to really hear them. Sometimes, if I imagine how they'd sound when talking, it'll influence their words. Right down to accent and inflection. Of course, I'm also writing a type of fantasy, so sometimes I can lean on fantasy speak. Edit: None of this is to say you should do anything different. When things don't feel distinct to me, I think about where or why, and I just keep trying until I figure it out. Lmao "just write" I guess. But I totally get what you mean. Sometimes the words really aren't that different, which is when context, tone, and even body language tend to help.

@sebaschan-uwu

21 күн бұрын

Pro tip: enlist real life people who somewhat fit the characters you are going to write in a book, tell them what the gist of their line is supposed to be, then tell them to write how they would talk in that specific scenario. It's like when actors improvise lines but for writing.

@2wr633

21 күн бұрын

after reading through all the replies, i concluded that you doesn't need to "sound like a different person" you just need to expand your "language fingerprint" large enough to pass a subset of your expressions as a person

Bros giving out unabomber tutorial

@TheSpy605

22 күн бұрын

I'm taking notes (What is a unabomber btw? University bomber?)

@yumyellow9620

22 күн бұрын

@@TheSpy605 thats how the fbi used to call ted kaczynski before they found out who he was lol it comes from "university and airline bombings" (the guy would send bombs there in case you didnt know)

@earthpcCHClS

22 күн бұрын

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski​@@TheSpy605

@nicreven

22 күн бұрын

@@TheSpy605 Some guy called Ted Kaczynski, feel free to google it Some bomber

@TheSpy605

22 күн бұрын

@@earthpcCHClS Thank you. So basically a guy who mails pipe bombs to random people... yeah, that sounds fun.

Every mug is a cup, but not every cup is a mug.

@etcvrr

22 күн бұрын

well said

@louzo5175

22 күн бұрын

Very cup shaped n heavy cups are mugs, but less cup looking cups are cups cause it's more broad then mug

@Rippertear

22 күн бұрын

But lots of mugs are a pint

@tye64

22 күн бұрын

@@louzo5175 "more broad *than* mug". The term 'then' is a causal progression, while 'than' is referential in nature. Normally, I wouldn't comment on such, but the video affords the response. ;D

@osheridan

22 күн бұрын

Mugs have handles and r thick

writing my manifesto and putting it through chat gpt as a pirate

@Yacopsev

22 күн бұрын

I though of similar idea

@maddie5131

22 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was getting at

@michabrzozowski9802

22 күн бұрын

Grrrr.. BLACKBEARD CAN'T GET AWAY WITH IT ANY LONGER💢😡🤬👹

@Voxelowo

22 күн бұрын

Intentionally writing my manifesto in a different way

@drengr5384

22 күн бұрын

​@@michabrzozowski9802yarr, the scallywag be giving me less loot than I deserve

I literally just found out that people genuinely called it tennis shoes.

@CarMedicine

22 күн бұрын

i was taught in English class (in Spain) "in the UK it's trainers and in the US it's sneakers" what the actual hell

@madal5443

21 күн бұрын

I thought "gym shoes" was universal😭

@meaniezucchini5216

21 күн бұрын

​@@CarMedicine I mean, as a native speaker who says tennis shoes.. if you said sneakers, I'd know what you meant and wouldn't even question it. I just probably wouldn't think to use the word sneakers unless I was primed to use it.

@Jivvi

21 күн бұрын

​@@madal5443 "Gym shoes" would instantly make me think the person saying it is American. "Tennis shoes" would make me think they meant shoes specifically for tennis. I have a pair of tennis shoes, but I'd never use that as the general term; I'd say runners or sneakers.

@tri4ls

21 күн бұрын

i say tennis shoes but pronounce tennis ‘tenna’ lmao. i think i used to call them sneakers though

"is that a mug or a cup?" idk man but that definitely looks like a doughnut

@tonydai782

22 күн бұрын

Ah, the topologist

@psy-fi64

22 күн бұрын

topolinguistics

@HenyaMandel

21 күн бұрын

Sounds like you’re hungry

@splooey2151

21 күн бұрын

It is just a cartesian product of two compact connected 1-dimensional manifolds without boundary obviously

@Jivvi

21 күн бұрын

I just want a cinnamon mug, and a large doughnut of coffee.

Another fun example is to show people a turquoise object and ask them if it’s blue or green. Don’t accept any other answers, just blue or green. Some people will argue that it’s green because it has yellow in it, but others will argue that it’s blue because it looks like an ocean. We can’t even agree on basic colours

@ThighFish

22 күн бұрын

At least in the case of cyan (which is right in between blue and green, while turquoise is more green), I consider it neither, just as orange is neither red nor yellow.

@gljames24

22 күн бұрын

This is why I am making a quaternary color system. Someone calling cyan blue would be like someone calling yellow red, but somehow the first one is fine. Blue, Cerulean, Azure, Capri, Cyan, Turquoise, Mint, Emerald, and Green are distinct colors and need formal spectral definitions.

@tscimb

21 күн бұрын

A few years ago, we figured out that my sibling sees about half the colors I see. And probably always has. (A perk of wearing the same clothes for decades.) Neither one of us has anything strange going on with our eyesight.

@FunnyParadox

21 күн бұрын

i just call that "Miku Blue" so everybody is mad at me :3

@y-tiplex

21 күн бұрын

@@tscimb what wait do you mean they only see half he ones you do? like colorblindness?

I love your fast talking energy with these topics you're clearly passionate about, it's really infectious, I feel like I'm learning AND it's really entertaining

@The_Guy_Who_Asked72

21 күн бұрын

i think he just has autism lol

@SineN0mine3

21 күн бұрын

You'd love meth

@marcokonst4144

21 күн бұрын

Also allows him to fit more into one short probably the main reason

@LumaSloth

15 күн бұрын

​@marcokonst4144 Yeah, but stick yo dreaming

Note to self… write about how I threw my sneakers in a garbage can. If I ever hypothetically commit a crime.

One of the many reasons I hate the "what is a woman" question is the whole "fuzzy definition" ordeal

@alfiehopkin5795

22 күн бұрын

Commenting here so I can see the war in the replies

@arezoohayebozorg3012

22 күн бұрын

​@@alfiehopkin5795 Same

@Jkjoannaki

22 күн бұрын

Or any social construct. "Are persians and greeks white?" Anything that is involved in analytical philosophy and cognitive science is very annoying to discuss with fscsts

@PointlessPaperBlob

22 күн бұрын

​@@alfiehopkin5795same

@striderfromhl2

22 күн бұрын

we all know women aren't real because I've never seen one.

A: It's a cup! B: It's a mug! Me: Glass

@tscimb

21 күн бұрын

Could be porcelain or polystyrene.

@Redhornsandeyes

21 күн бұрын

Glassk

@Jivvi

21 күн бұрын

Glasses and mugs are both cups.

@SocialistStrike

20 күн бұрын

Ceramic

@SocialistStrike

20 күн бұрын

​@@Redhornsandeyes Shrock

I wonder how applies to people which have English as a second language and mostly picked up their talking and writing patterns from the people they watch and stories they read.

@xxlegendaryalduinxx3245

22 күн бұрын

I'm Colombian learning English by myself, as you can imagine there isn't that much of an opportunity to practice English here so I usually talk similar to the people I hear talking online or use the words I usually read

@Solanin0803

22 күн бұрын

I have no personality of my own, so depending on what media I consume at the time, my english changes lmao

@lengorchi8707

21 күн бұрын

I had British English in school but because I mostly learned it myself with the help of the internet, I’m speaking a devilish mix of British and American English. I don’t live in English-speaking country but about 93% of all media I consume is in English, and my girlfriend also knows the language very well, so we use English words and phrases interchangeably in our daily lives. I noticed that when I don’t really think about how I write or speak in English, I automatically construct sentences like I would do it in my native language (it’s much more lenient in the words order). I’m autistic, so in both languages the vibes I feel from words sometimes differ from other people. And it creates confusion 😅 But there’s a clear distinction between how I perceive words in different languages, especially if they don’t have a translation that is close enough to the original meaning. All this to say, a cup is a small thing you use only on a special occasion, and a mug is an everyday item bigger in volume 🤣

@BobRossCat

21 күн бұрын

@@lengorchi8707 Wow, you speak great English! I would never think your native language was a different one.

@CT--ym5mn

20 күн бұрын

Cant say about us as a whole but as an indonesian learning english, my english is like some crazy cocktail of various dialects. My school is teaching british english (proper english btw), i watch some american, english, and irish youtubers, have aussie, scottish and american online friends. So my sentence is one jumbled mess. I can use mechanised instead of mechanized and pants instead of trousers in one sentence and i wouldnt realise it.

my favorite etymology nerd

@nathanmcgill7249

17 күн бұрын

Do you know any others?

@Teun_Jac

15 күн бұрын

​@@nathanmcgill7249yes there is that other guy I didn't realise was not the same person. I thing he's Libanese or something

Something I realized recently is that I say yeah a lot. I challenged myself to not yeah during an entire conversation and I suppressed around 20 or 30 yeahs during the first hour before giving up.

@Littlefish1239

21 күн бұрын

Yeah i would also give up

@Houshalter

16 күн бұрын

Yeah...

That's why I always say the number of languages in the world equals the number of people in the world.

@Rippertear

22 күн бұрын

Plus another for every person that knows two languages.

@SocialistStrike

20 күн бұрын

Even that is limiting language to mere human verbal language.

semanticsmaxxing

There is a website where they can tell you where you are from by certain usage of words. Pretty accurate.

@Theuglymug

22 күн бұрын

What is it called?

@kbye2321

22 күн бұрын

What is it?

@OctopusWhoSeesAll

22 күн бұрын

@@kbye2321 I like to do the one called “Southerner or Yankee” (although this is US based) Another is: How Y’all, Youse and You Guys Talk by the NYT

@heckie

22 күн бұрын

​@@OctopusWhoSeesAll they mean the website, im curious too i can't find it

@OctopusWhoSeesAll

21 күн бұрын

@@heckie i can’t put the exact website link in yt comments so I’m giving like exact keywords to put in

YALL DONT CALL THEM SNEAKERS 💀😭

@plank3543

16 күн бұрын

LITERALLY WHO TF SAYS TENNIS SHOES

He sounds like it's conspiracy theory, but it's just objective linguistics

@FlopgamingOne

22 күн бұрын

I don't get how it sounds like a conspiracy theory

@lentlemenproductions770

22 күн бұрын

@@FlopgamingOne”Don’t write a manifesto, the FBI can pinpoint where you’re from, how old you are, and a scary amount of other things.”

@FlopgamingOne

22 күн бұрын

@@lentlemenproductions770 That's just regular FBI mischievous acts

@MorningMeasure

20 күн бұрын

FBI profiling.....some of the stuff is fine, like determining things like number of people involved, likely weight/height categories in certain circumstances, shoe size, etc. But the hit rate of alot of other categorizations they use are just straight dog. Not quite phrenology or graphology (handwriting "science") bad, but it's all based on varying degrees of "stereotyping", especially when we're talking forensic psychology. Linguistic forensics has some of the red flags of forensic psychology. Not a useless field, by any measure, but it should be a tool to explore possibilities to then look into with better-vetted methods, and basically never the thing that gets someone arrested or convicted.

I find this stuff so fascinating! It also applies to body language and mannerisms. Once i saw someone walking down the street in front of me and i thought it was a friend of mine and then i thought "no, that's not how she moves." I have no clue which specific thing it was that felt off, but it was so clear somehow

This is also a more general principle behind linguistics and even browser fields (structuralism). What things mean to us is based on what they don't mean to us. A mug is a cup BUT...and a cup is a mug BUT...there is no "essence" of cup or mug

garbage bin = the one you put outside for the garbage truck to pick up garbage can = the one in your kitchen trash can = the one in your bedroom/bathroom

I knew it! I knew it! I naturally have trouble communicating with people, but ive gotten "not too bad" at it even better than some more"normal" people bc I already assume I have to adjust to how any particular person uses language! I always tell people who have similar issues or people who just HATE being considerate to people and refuse to try to properly communicate even when they're perfectly able that, "There are as many forms of any language as there are people who use it". And of course, people learning to communicate across different cultures that use the same overarching language. I have evidence now!! I have evidence now!!

Manifesto Bros suddenly trying to sound EXACTLY like a Wisconsin native to manifest in peace without those meddling FBI and their dog, too.

As someone who grew up in california raised by a mom who grew up in south jersey, i know this effect very well. My 8 yo nephew always gets on my case for my word choice/pronouciation because it's a blend of the two regions.

This is why the "cereal is a soup" argument frustrates so many people

@tscimb

21 күн бұрын

Are pitas tacos?

@medicinemouse7647

19 күн бұрын

​@@tscimbsure

Bro getting closer to philosophy every video

No wonder my whole friend group had The Great Teal Debate...

@ThighFish

22 күн бұрын

It’s neither blue nor green. If you don’t understand, try to decide whether orange is red or yellow.

Synonyms for common words are the fuz.

Yoo it’s the guy yauyayayayayayayayay

As a Canadian the idea of calling them tennis shoes is insane. I knew it was a thing in America but I didn't know it was the majority by so much! I've also had someone tell me they're not shoes, they're sneakers... What the hell did they think a shoe is

The Arabic word Istiqan (Arabic cup) comes from East India Tea Company canisters that said “EAST” in bold. Soldiers would ask for “East-Tea-Canisters” and used old ones to drink tea. Arabic didn’t have word for cup/mug originally but now they have three. The second one is Koob un shaian i.e. Koob (‘cup’ in English cupe from Latin) un shaian (‘chai’ in Hindi from ‘cha’ in Chinese) Third one is fenjan But the Greek word φλιτζάνι (flitzani) comes from the Turkish word fincan (pinkan), which comes from the Arabic word finjan which comes from the Persian word fenjaan from classical Persian-Greek word pingan. All meaning a small cup.

blud really said "yall unique" in the most complicated way possible 💀

I'd love to see you talk about how there are actually certain post-ironic phrases that we actually use in everyday speech. Like, if I was super busy with work all the time, I might complain to my friend by sarcastically saying _"wow._ I _love_ having lots of free time." I'm saying it ironically in a sarcastic tone, because I'm not getting lots of free time, but also, the words of the statement are literally true! I _do,_ in fact, love having tons of free time! The two layers of irony are like, canceling each other out so I'm saying something I literally mean in a sarcastic way.

it depends on the liquid inside- warm is mug and cold is cup :)

Yup. My weird vocab thing is that I think of bedsheets as a subset of blankets. Sometimes I confuse people by referring to bed coverings in general as "blankets" (as a blanket term, I guess).

They: "cup or mug?" Me: "glass"

A really good example of this is, jumper, sweater, jacket, hoodie, crewneck, you probably have a clear image what these items are but i often find people can't agree on at least one of them

The single frame of EK! at the end caught me off guard.

That’s why I hired a ghost writer for my manifesto

i just define a mug as a ceramic cup with a handle wasn't aware that wasn't the common consensus lol

@insertcreativenamehere492

21 күн бұрын

to me, a mug is a ceramic cup with a handle that doesn’t taper off at the bottom. Like the one in the video isn’t a mug because it’s wider at the top than the bottom

I'm your FBI agent and you're under arrest.

For me it's always been Porcelain: mug Metal: tumbler Cup: plastic Glass: glass Wood: kuksa And so on and so on. This is only in english, since in my native language we don't have a word for a mug. Probably because it's seen as "unnecessary"

@Jivvi

21 күн бұрын

Teacups are usually porcelain, and definitely not mugs. Tumblers are a certain shape, but they can be glass or plastic. And _all_ of those are cups.

I hate when people say supper instead of dinner. Most other word choices I don’t mind. But hearing a person say supper really really gets to me. 😢

And then there are words in English that come from Irish 😭 scundered has a completely different meaning everywhere but I’m not sure if that’s from Irish. It just means fed up where I’m from. And dialects are very different in Irish; the Ulster dialect is closer to Scottish Gaelic than Munster Irish, I’d say.

I hope someone makes a website where you can adjust statistics like these (slang used, etc) for all us who write and create ocs

For trash vs garbage, I delineate it as trash = small, garbage = big. Trash is for in the house, garbage is for outside the house (where the city trucks will pick it up).

This is exactly why I write my characters at different times, I need to get into the mindset to remember how they write specifically. Such as one character referring to a situation in a totally different way with different framing, words and take-aways.

yesss i was hoping you would cover this topic

These videos are like having a craving for a food for months and FINALLY getting your hands on some, and it's the best thing you could imagine. Every single time.

that's scary man I can't say anything anymore 🙁🙁

I call it a mug if the base is bigger or equal to the top, and a cup if the top is bigger.

And then when you factor in words we pick up from people around us who grew up in different places, it gets even MORE unique. For example, I gee up in the American northwest but my mom grew up in the Midwest and my dad moved around a lot, so I have a weird melting pot of language. then you add in language picked up from online and it basically makes it impossible to have the same language usage as even someone as close to you as your siblings.

I'm so glad I found your channel! I am so fascinated by etymology and socio-linguistics, and you are a fantastic host!!

Greatest example of this effect are the words friend, colleague, pal etc

@tscimb

21 күн бұрын

To me, those are 3 different meanings. To others, just 1.

@Jivvi

21 күн бұрын

I'm not your friend, pal.

One of my favorite little linguistic nuances is "semantic narrowing," where the generic word of source culture/language was adopted as the specific of the staple of that culture. In Spanish, salsa means sauce, but in American English salsa (excluding the dance) means "pico de gallo." In fact, curry is the Tamil word for sauce.

bro, þats not a cup or mug, ITS A BOWL!

This is the best video you've made in terms of importance

to me, you have hot chocolate and coffee in a mug, but have tea in a cup. So not only does the size and shape matter, but also the context in which the item is being used for and what drink it contains

Hey I remember learning about "fuzziness" during grad school, pretty interesting in how people cant agree about most things because what everyone considers as part of one or another related concept differs.

As a german we dont distinguish between mug and cup we just have Tasse

You can recognize me by how much I don't say filler 😅... And how I can only speak English like an influencer having learnt more vocabulary online than from school

It's also how they help catch Luka Magnotta, the killer of several cats and Jun Lin. Some who were following the case helped discover information by analyzing phrases he used like "super hot", and "super sexy man", as well as how he put spaces surround his commas "like , this" Pretty neat huh?

Luckily for me, I don't write consistently. I rapidly switch between writing like I'm from where I am in perth, how I learned proper english growing up in tunisia, and how i l0ke tork w/ my fam.

i knew that because I often get into missunderstandings because I forget that my way of speaking isnt objectivly correct

As a Californian, filler words are my bread and butter in most any situation

“Cool headed logicians” is what got him caught lol

Thats why you send your manifesto through chat gpt 🥰

Ultimately this guy right here could linguistically change the geographic location of his speach it just takes a lot of research you could be the next unibomber dont give up on your dreams ❤

Remind me of the song: was called the whole thing off

Frankly I just accepted that sometimes categories don't contradict each other.

How I say "Your" is very specific to my region Like, other places say it like I do as well, but it really narrows it down, and grabbing one or two other key phrases basically gives you a 10mile area to look for me in

Never knew I was interested in linguistics until I saw your videos, about to start university, I might take some classes in linguistics. Who knows :)

Fools on the people trying to pinpoint my location because I partially developed my vocabulary through the internet, which broadens my estimated location.

Thanks for bringing all my speech insecurities back in a flash flood. Didnt need this awareness today.

for so long, i thought it was: disc: shape, flat round thing; disk: mechanism containing a disc; diskette: small disk. except, no. disc and disk are synonyms.

yeah the fact that i say gym shoes would give me away in a heartbeat

This reminders me of the musical superposition of violins/fiddles

And then his brother turned him in. That was the worse crime

Ohhh yeah I was researching about this vaguely before this can also be said about how politicians use the same words that can mean different things

This is always the hardest thing for me to explain when I tell people why water isn’t wet

I am so random I'm still using words that surprise everybody around me

This made me realize that I say sneakers while living in the south because my mom is from the northeast. Love these videos

I like how part of Florida is blue on that sneakers one, because it shows how many people from the Northeast retire there.

this explains the "hot dog is a sandwhich" argument

good way of explaining connotation

For me, mugs are usually clay/similar material with a handle that is usually perfectly, or roughly cylindrical. A cup tends to be plastic, no handle, bright colours and cone shaped (i usually use them as water pots for art). A glass is mostly anything made of glass or glass adjacent intended for drinking, any shape, any size and any colour

I know all my friends’ texting and speaking styles off by heart and i’m teaching myself to replicate them

I highlighted on this a tiny bit in the dialect portion of my linguistics essay and talk this past semester. Its all super interesting, and i think if i had to choose a specific field of linguistics to go into it would be on those small fuzzy nuances, but because i have audhd and its all so interesting, i dont think ill ever be able to pick a subsect

I'm so guilty of writing exactly how I talk.

Good example of this in my family is the word truck. My dad who grew up on a farm refers to anything bigger than a hatchback or station wagon as a truck. My mom calls any Motor vehicle smaller than a pickup a car

Unironically Ted's biggest mistake in not getting caught was not obfuscating his writing enough.

Time to learn every local linguistic so I can get away with crimes in an area I'm not from

I have never heard anyone say tennis shoes like not even my American friends

Love that cup/mug graph

This is why characters being from different regions/nationalities is an easy way to add characterization since if they’re all being written by the same author they’d all be written with that author accent

so get someone *else* to write my manifesto then. gocha!

“If you say garbage or trash can” I genuinely shouted “it’s a bin!” My Britishness is shining through today

i just pick up studying a new language every week so that my speech patterns are constantly changing as i condition myself to new patterns

I never even realized that tennis shoes and sneakers were the same thing.