What's interesting about this is that so many legendary engineers do it different ways. So really it's the result that matters. And you certainly made this vocal sound fantastic.

a lot of times when using a bell curve that narrow when sweeping, every frequency will sound bad, better to use a wider band, and then to narrow it.

@soundproductionandadvice

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed this will inevitably lead to multiple cuts which in turn destroys the signal.

@flamersss

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundproductionandadvice how wide should it be?

@soundproductionandadvice

2 жыл бұрын

@@flamersss The point is that if you take a 3 band eq, put a narrow Q, boost to max, and sweep, nasty resonances can be found throughout the frequency range. Now do the same with a 6 band EQ and the next thing you know the material is destroyed.

An addition to the “find the worst frequencies” bit…one set of frequencies that are SUPER controlled in a high end mix are 800ish and its harmonics at 1.6k and 3.2k. If I can’t get a vocal truly happening or it’s annoying in some way that major label recordings aren’t…often, the answer is gonna be somewhere in there. Certain singers get super hot in this range, too. One time, I had a guy where I had to dip all of those frequencies…I remember having to REALLY hammer 3.2ish out of the equation…it was almost cymbal-like in character and just dominated that washy, nasty 2-4k range.

Man I've been running a certain vocal chain for years and rocked this one today! I must thank you for this amazing knowledge... there is an elevated polished sparkly fullness that was never achieved before!! ❤

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome Brad! U made my day!

@freez092also

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff thanks brother!!!

Bobby thanks for doing these vids. I have learned so much from them. Thank you thank you, gracious, Danka,, Merci... You rule Buddy!

Brilliant!! Thank you so much Bobby. I'll be singing up for one of your packages soon.

always to the point with excellent information. Thanks Mick Fleetwood!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha!!

This advice is both handy and dandy. Very logical. Thanks Bobby.

Frequency sweeping is a great tool for just about everything...especially when you have a really busy song with lots of frequencies fighting for space.

As a sound engineer student I can guaranteed this vocal chain works every time, there's real theory behind. Thanks Bobby!

@willymccabe6602

Жыл бұрын

Oh, well, as long as you're a sound engineer student. Those are some SERIOUS credentials.

Straight to the point, simple and sounds amazing..

Such a great video. Super focused easy to follow (copy). Thanks for sharing your expertise. I'm excited to try it!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Randall!! Give it a shot!

Thanks Bob, another great video, straight to the point and easy to follow 👍

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Calvin!

Very healthy eq procedure, Dr. Bob!! As I always say, thank you for sharing these gems!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Javi!

Straight and to the point and very knowledgeable! Thanks Bob you’re the man!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Beau!

I’ve really been enjoying these! I really like your direct teaching style! Thanks

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Thanks for the tips!! That cut at 5:00 def made me feel better about how I've been mixing because I was doing something similar an hadn't seen anyone make a cut that deep besides myself so wasn't sure if it was something I should be doing or not

Great tutorial. I'll try that out on my rehearsal mixes tonight. Thanks for the great content.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Thank you for these instructional videos. The pandemic has forced us all into writing and recording at home, and learning DIY production, mixing and mastering has become essential. Your videos have been very helpful and learning to record is itself a great songwriting tool.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic Andy! Thanks!!

Wow, always precise and at the point.Thanx.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rick!

Just found your channel. Super helpful stuff. Keep it coming! Subscribed!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the sub Ray!!

Your tutorials are so to the point and always just the things we need to know 😁

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks as always David!

Bobby!! These are so helpful! Thank you!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Brian!

Great as usual. Thanks Bobby

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Taz!

Thank you so much! I was having trouble de-essing post compression. This helps.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Michael!

De Ess first. When you say it, I think to myself “anyone who doesn’t de ess first is an idiot.” I have been mixing like an idiot… thank you. I am sure my results will improve immediately.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah!! All good Charlie. We all learn new things all the time!!

@aviatedviewssound4798

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff it's better to clip gain your vocal to remove esses specially it's easier in reaper

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@aviatedviewssound4798 yes. After I apply all of this eq if there continues to be some problem spots with heavy “ESS’s,” or P pops I’ll use clip gain. Good point!

@hauntedbytheliving1175

3 жыл бұрын

I certainly wouldn’t say “mixing like an idiot”, man. The approach Bobby takes is great and reminds me of compressing once to grab peaks and again for rms with an optical comp. “S’s” are not all equal and if you treat them before compression you might get one section perfect but the same settings create a lisp on another line. That’s why people typically de-ess after SOME form of compression to get them in the same range/require similar reduction settings. I’ve been an engineer for 20+ years now and I’ve changed the plugin order plenty to see where the de-esser works best. More often than not it works best after compression. The exception is perfectly level, less dynamic or less expressive vocal performances. But again, that is if you’re using only one de-esser. The way he’s doing it seems to grab the severe spitty ones first, then the nagging sibilance after. A great system for sure… it provides much higher resolution control than a single instance. I de-ess and compress in moderation on the track level(automate more than compress) and again on the buss level, it’s really similar logic but I’m going to try his method to see if it sounds better/saves time. Bobby’s got pearls of wisdom for days… I love his stuff and learn a lot.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@hauntedbytheliving1175 thanks for watching and the great comments man!

On point! I find it always difficult to find the "evil" frequency. Great video as usual. Thanks Bobby!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Oilver!

Always a pleaure - was compressing with the 76 before, but added the rvox to my vocal chain and it sounds so good. Always de-essed at the end, but gotta experiment with at the top now. Another one I like is the NLS Channel for vocals. Sometimes that extra bit of neve character just feels good.

@ProdbyTrehnt

3 жыл бұрын

I like doing a de esser before for s then one after for T’s (like 10khz but it depends on the voice) near the end of my chain

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Deess before you hit compression so the compressor doesnt bring up the S's even more.

Well done Dr. Bob.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jhon!!

Gotta tell you, the video of Eq Snare changed my life. Thanks !!!!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dany! Also try boosting around 5k.

Revealing the most mind melting nuances to production & keeping it simple and easy for all. Especially the De-Ess technique. That one is super helpful! Brilliant job as always mate!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve!!! Hope ur well!

Awesome! Great teacher!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Todd!

Another excellent surgery Cuz!! Love the hat as well..😎😷🤠

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha!! Thanks Huff!!

Great stuff Bobby.....

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David!!

Always useful information in your vids. Thanks, ;-)

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Great info Doc!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Ian!

Great vocalist!

Try the Schoeps trick with two pultecs and a La2A for clarity.

Great as always

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thank u Rich!

Spot on

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Thanx!

Great tips, it would be interesting to do a history lesson, what did they do in the 60s, 70s, 80s when DAWs didn't exist? I know parametric EQ's been there forever but how was a vocal recorded back in the day?

@MobiusMinded

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Using hardware

Wore my Dr. Bob T-shirt to Wal-Mart yesterday. Also had my shades and mask on so that probably looked kind of funny.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!!! Awesome!!

@whychromosomesmusic5766

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff Hopefully in the future I can come up from Murfreesboro and visit the studio in person. Only did three recordings in a dude's small at home studio upstairs in his house in the Boro. So cramped that he was sitting at the computers (double but connected -- not sure how that works?) and i was sitting against the other wall in a chair doing the vocals and guitar and if anybody wanted to get by I had to pull my feet up onto the chair! Still a lot of fun and I would love to do that again.

The narrow band sweeping is not critical at all, it's taste and context dependant. Tom Elmhirst that does this particular technique said that in some indie rock music and stuff, you want this "harshness". There's nothing wrong with this technique but it's not mandatory, it's just how "smooth" you want your vocal to be

Has this song come out yet? There's a comment saying it's by Jev but I can't find it. It's dope 🔥

Another Amazing Video as Normal, It's Funny, I started recording my vocals last night, and this video will come in handy. What do you think of the waves auto tune plugin, is it a pro tuning plugin or is there something that is better that's not to expensive? Thanks and God Bless!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Joe. Thanks for watching! I have never used the Waves auto tune plug in but if it’s like the rest of their stuff it should be quite good! Melodyne is quite good and one of the best but may be a bit pricey. Antares is great too.

@joebuckley9181

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff Thanks, I Bought Melodyne back in 2007, I wonder if the licence is still good?

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@joebuckley9181 you may have to pay for an upgrade but that license should still work!

@joebuckley9181

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff I found a old email I saved for 3 years ago from melodyn, stating that they were not making updates for version 1 anymore, but that I could get a free upgrade to version 4, I emailed support and gave them my serial number and they gave me version 4, after installing I was redirected to their site where I was notified that they were giving my a free update to version 5, I was pumped, the people at melodyn are a real class act and a great company to do business with, thanks for the Help, God Bless!

Who's song is this? Love the song man! And great video.

Awesom video bobby as always. Can you do a video on real 90s country drums and vocals? I know you were involved in Blackhawk if I’m correct and I love them and the real clear sound. Drums and vocals always sound crisp not to mention everything else as well.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen great idea. The engineer mixer, Mike Clute, is absolutely brilliant! Amazing drum engineer and he was known for that! Much of the reverb was actually an SPX 90! Amazing little box. Still is!

@SteveH4es

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff THANK YOU! Any website magazine i could find an archive of producers and mixer techniques? More so focused on the gear used. Basically someone like you ! Anyways I really love and miss the sounds of old country drums 80s and 90s. The 80s were fat but still sounded crisp and real.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveH4es thanks for the kindness! Don’t know of any really…maybe try Pensados Place??

@SteveH4es

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff thank you bobby !

Great video, Doc! By the way, who’s the singer?

Hey Dr. that guys singing is incredible.. who is he? Any chance to listen to that song on some platform!?

Hey Bobby. Good Advice. I have an analog chain I'm proud of, but without any de-essing. Would you recommend a 500 series Empire Labs de esser before an 1176 or distressor? thanks for the high quality content.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Yes I would recommend that...You will love a Deeser first in your chain I promise!

My CLA 1176 adds alot of noise in the mix. NOt sure it matters but it doesn't seem right to my so I use a different brand 1176 model.

Thanks for these videos, Dr Bob! I have a quandary here: Do you do all your vocal processing on the inserts of the actual track or do you do them on an auxiliary, or do you split them up somehow? Thanks!

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Gary. Thanks for watching. For the most part I do eq, compression, and Deessing, on the insert side and anything like reverb, delay, chorus, etc. I do as an aux.

@garywendt4956

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff awesome!! Thanks for the help! Very much appreciated, Dr Bob! 🤘

He knows what’s he’s talking about because he’s using Cubase. The sages of music use Cubase❤

What microphone was used for the recording ? Love this video! Thank u for that 🔥

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

SM7

@timuryesa

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff the vocals where an sm7b???? How can it be so airy. Cause even with so much eq this mic sounds dark…any tips on that ?

@timuryesa

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff and i mean the singing vocals, not yours :D

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Oh Sorry!! A Peluso 251, Neve 1073 mic pre, and a great singer!

Me: “The new Dr. Bob vid! 😃” Mick Fleetwood: 🥺

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA

@bobbyhuff enjoyed the video. one question i have is whats your thinkingl behind stacking the eqs in this scenario when you could make all your eqs in pro q pre compressor? Only curious

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Preston. You could make both moves in one plugin instance and there would be no difference. I just used 2 for the video.

@magicizaproblem

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff thanks!

Why de ssing first ? Why don’t u low cut first ? Finally it’s the same résult ? For myself: -Clip gain 1st !!!! -tune -Low cut (around 100) -De ss -Substractive eq (dynamique) -Compress 76 (pick) -Compress LA2A(smooth) -Eq (shine with pulltech) -De sss (other fréquency, other plugin) -Multiband (fabfilter to control high end) -Limiter fabfilter (2 db max) -Automation

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

I deess first before it hits the compressor. I dont think it matters as long as you low cut before compression..

Trouble: 1) I got some vocal takes with a lot of natural reverberation ... 2) There is no chance for making new vocal takes ... Question: Which are the best techniques for diminishing or getting rid of those annoying long reverbs? How to find the most possible dry sound from those wishy-washy wet takes??

@jonathancrowell4648

2 жыл бұрын

HEY! So I've experienced this issue on several tracks and samples in the past, and not just natural reverberation, but tails in samples or recordings that i don't necessarily love. When that happens, i ALWAYS use Logic's ENVELOPER plugin. its essentially a transient designer, but you can also get RID of transients on the front AND back end of a track/sample! In your case, i would use it to get rid of the tail of the track, and it works GREAT. if you don't have logic just shoot me a message and i can run them through a session on my computer and get them nice and tight for you!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Hey try Ozone RX. Its the best at this.

u the best 👌

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thank u Ahmed!! I appreciate the kindness!

Where can i hear that track

I usually record through my external UA 610 first. Since that is a compressor, should I start using the 610 as an insert after the internal EQ?

@bluestarorion

2 жыл бұрын

Oh gosh, I just watched the How The Pros Compress Vocals video, and my mind is blown. THANK YOU BOBBY!

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

You could still record through it because it’s a mic pre. Just bypass the compressor.

Where can I find this song ?

I never got the point behind the high q high gain sweeping technique. You're gonna make any overtone sound ridiculous slowly sweeping like that with a pointy gain curve..

Do you ever use a channel strip install across all tracks?

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

No I don't.

whats the name of the song?

Name of song

I see lots of Rvox out there which one are you using

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve it’s by Waves.

Wonder if Fagen's Steely Dan vocals would be ruined by modern autotune. Perhaps the song "My Rival"?

@kensmechanicalaffair

3 жыл бұрын

Autotune can be turned down so much that you'd have a hard time telling if it's on or not.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

I love Fagen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

song name?

Is there a reason for using 2 eq's? Why not dip both the low end and the highs on the same EQ?

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

You can totally use the same eq!! I just showed as separately.

@Ve55el

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff ya never know...maybe the secret is using two!!! Thats how Daft Punk do it! lol (I'm being cheeky)

That's why I like vocal Mic's at 80 Hz not 20

✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻🎤🎹

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan!

What is the name of the song?

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

new song by an artist named JEV. Not out yet. “Love Sucks.” GREAT NEW ARTIST!!!!

I have a dilemma with this. I have seen people who gives the advice of just a high pass, a hard boosting at 8k, a boost between 1k and 2k depending on the vocals. And I have seen people doing the eq technique that you explain at this video. I Did use both and both work. For metal I did see that the boosting method works better and the detail EQ works better on hip hop, R&B and those songs where there is not so much noise. I use both but I have a little bit of dilema here. I think that perception is relative so you end with a similar result if you see it with a spectrum analizer. I still have a dilemma with this.

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Atrey. Thanks for watching but I don’t understand your dilemma?? Please explain again. Thank u.

@atreyfall3812

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff The first way I did learn to EQ a vocal is the same method that you teach in this video. But I did learn another method where the only thing that you do is a big boost at 8k, a small boost between 1k and 2k to pop out the vocals a little bit and a high pass filter. I used both methods and both work. Because of that I don't know which one to choose. Sorry, English is not my first language, so maybe I say some crazy stuff sometimes. Thank you for responding.

I haven't watch it yet. just wanted to throw something in there. There are some producers, Massenberg for example want everything pure. No EQ, even no Compression. Others like RTB actually recorded with how he wanted it to sound. I literally got a 24 track once of an RTB produced band and you put all the faders to 0 and it is a mix. If you have the multi tracks of Bo Rap you we see and hear it. Like Mutt, who knew what he wanted at the end of the recording, RTB knew what he wanted at the beginning and committed it. Both are genius in approach, but both can be costly. Though when you have a basically open ended recording budget and legacy, you can kind of call it. Saw an interview with Bryan Adams on working with Mutt, still back with tape. Bryan said, I don't think the verse works. Said Mutt put all the tracks except the drums in record and wiped it up to the chorus and said, "now we need a verse". I think Mutt us autisic.

@mikewallace1270

2 жыл бұрын

Who is RTB?

@frankpaws

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikewallace1270 Roy Thomas Baker

I honestly don't hear any difference between the source and the result, I can never tell on these youtube tutorials. Someone should make a tutorial where they're moving the knobs and dipping the slopes but the effects are bypassed and talk about how they can hear the difference and see if people catch on. Vocals sounded great out the gate to me I would think they were already processed wouldn't have done anything.

This section got real real potential

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bitter!

The three C's.. Correct.. Compress.. Create...

@kensmechanicalaffair

3 жыл бұрын

I like that.

@BobbyHuff

2 жыл бұрын

CCC

Yeah, sorry, I was the guy who gave you the 70th like...

@BobbyHuff

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the like!

The harshness is around 2 to 3k.

Great vocalist!