One of the things that always pissed me off so much was how despite Ray being Isabella's BIOLOGICAL SON, they barely interacted when she was literally dying and instead Emma got all the screentime. God, they did Ray so dirty its painful

@DarkSharingan21

3 жыл бұрын

This.

@momokoasuka7930

3 жыл бұрын

lmao i completely forgot that he's her biological son

@prudence433

3 жыл бұрын

@@momokoasuka7930 I think the author did too

@DioDeezBrando

3 жыл бұрын

@@prudence433 Araki moment

@tiolloyd9555

3 жыл бұрын

@@DioDeezBrando nah, Araki at least knows how to write a family drama, look at Jotaro and Jolyne for exemple

Emma: **talks** Every character: No no. She's got a point.

@Luv4Jay1

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo ikr 😂

@luigi2837

3 жыл бұрын

lmfao true though

@JadeSpecter

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone: "It's hard to argue with her assessment"

@gifdar

3 жыл бұрын

She might be able to outmatch Naruto with her talk no jutsu

@8AKI47

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

I think the promised neverland is genius because Emma killed the writer and wrote the rest of the story by herself, she was smart enough to know that it was the only way and that any non-meta option wouldn't work

@whalefall413

5 ай бұрын

lmao

@naganut9718

4 ай бұрын

She was so smart she cross the 4th wall, very few shounen mc can do that

@catfighter5879

4 ай бұрын

I love it so much opening two is goated as hell rip what they did to the second season at least we got the manga

@poyo1272

Ай бұрын

​@@catfighter5879 the manga is barely better cope tpn is disappointing

I never watched season two because I felt like it had a perfect ending. They wanted to escape the farm and they did. It made me happy to know that they escaped and I didn’t need anything more.

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

Good season 2 is way worse than the manga

@googlemeets9672

2 жыл бұрын

@@Metal_Dragon_ I’m just reading the manga after season 1

@BarioIDL

Жыл бұрын

dodged a bullet there

@solbradguy7628

Жыл бұрын

That first arc can really be a self contained story if you want it to be, and frankly I think it's a much better story that way.

@catkilled

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Mike flannigan’s mini-series in the way that the conclusion felt right and I didn’t need nor want to see a “season 2” or continuation. I liked the way things ended for promised never land season one, both melancholy and hopeful, and everything that came after was disappointing to me.

Someone: *has opinion* Emma: no

@justanotherfrenchie

3 жыл бұрын

Fr it was like "the Emma show"

@PeachDragon_

3 жыл бұрын

She became a massive mary sue, she spews bullshit and the rest of the characters fight among themselves for who can eat the most of that shit.

@godsdrunkestsoldier9894

3 жыл бұрын

Twitter in an nutshell

@peggyliz9381

3 жыл бұрын

this is why emma got no development at all whatsoever, i hate her.

@PeachDragon_

3 жыл бұрын

@@peggyliz9381 not only she got no development, she changed for the worse

Emma: “ I want to save the deamons” The little kids who’s siblings were killed, eaten, and were on the verge of being eaten multiple times, and are most likely traumatized by the events. And the fact that they only met TWO demons who dont eat humans: “Yea let’s go!”

@comicalpeculiarity6174

3 жыл бұрын

Well I do understand what you mean, Emma not having an intense hatred of Demons is probably due to her being a main character but I don't think it's inherently bad that she didn't want to genocide all Demons. The revelation that they subsist humanoid forms and intelligence from devouring humans is a big distinction as they aren't wild animals that consume humans willy nilly, rather it's to not degenerate into the wild beasts found in the forested areas. Pair that with Emma's group travelling into multiple Demon settlements, all organized, Demon children even populated these areas showing they could copulate. As the Manga itself put it, Demons are a mirror image of humanity almost. When someone's most important value is family, why take that away from another? This was probably the sentiment she had at the turning point of the TPN Manga Sorry, you probably already read the Manga and know the aforementioned reasons but Musica and Sonju were only an aspect for her character shift but an important one, being the first two demons she had a real conversation with, smiled with, laughed with.

@augustuzmoon3814

3 жыл бұрын

@Moustapha Nour Much more logical way for them to coexist is killing the adults and brainwashing the off springs into believing humans are good and fair enough so the demons will no longer be a threat but then a again nuking them is a much easier option

@comicalpeculiarity6174

3 жыл бұрын

@Moustapha Nour But wasn't the matter of coexistence the entire point of the Manga? Literally, when the children return to the human world that had undergrown a multitude of years worth of hardship, it had finally gained unity. The fact of the matter is Demons have their own systems, culture etc that were never shown in depth for the sake of pacing and the fact Musica and her blood exists at all means that there is a means to quell the insatiable hunger they experience. Sure it wouldn't be too realistic per se but the only reason her miraculous appearance hasn't made human meat mute is due to the Nobles and Royalty keeping the populace under their thumb through the control of the plantation's and Demons that genuinely want to keep hunting them like poachers. And with Emma's promise, both worlds will never again interact so saying humans want the land is invalid because they literally can't access it whatsoever and why would they? A lot of it is forests or dunes, who knows if the materials or minerals would be similar to the ones found in the human world? Point is, the Manga poses it is possible and within the context of it's story, it is. It's not about humans nuking all the Demons just cause and breaking the promise but a new one being forged that'd benefit both species

@ShadyAnchovy

3 жыл бұрын

But that's what make her character and her story interesting. Without her selfish naivety there is no internal conflict between she and her brutally pragmatic and more reasonable brother. Also it's not like she doesn't aware about her flaw, often she questioning her own decision after reality hit her naive mind.

@BountyRogueCinemax

3 жыл бұрын

@Moustapha Nour the thing is. There was two ways (emma, ray, and norman) had ideas how to deal with it. Neutral would be demons and humans living together. Norman wanted to just kill all of them which is more extreme. Ray was willing to run away with who he loved and leave everyone else behind. The story was setting itself up that ray was being convinced by emma. Emma the idea I thought. Would going to become the new cells for food for demons, lose something precious to her by the demon God to stop the hunger of demons for humans thus also destroying their royal, or the blood of the demons who don't need to eat humans. For some fucking reason. They scrapped all of the ideas and sacrifices and traumas from the story up to gold pond. And made it that emma got whatever the fuck she wanted. She got all humans out the world, demons just accepted arch duke levious as king and brought him back to life (Lol??) And that was it. Worst story ever

Mangareaders before watching the anime season 2: What a disappointing ending, I hope the anime fixes it. Mangareaders after watching the anime season 2: What a wonderfully crafted masterpiece this manga is! Truly marvelous!

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

Seems legit

@porky1118

Жыл бұрын

I only watched the anime recently and now after watching this review, it feels like the anime is still better. The anime mostly felt like there was stuff missing. But it looks like most of the stuff missing in the anime is either crap or also missing. Except for chapter 3 of the manga. That one seems more fleshed out.

@HecateWitch13

Жыл бұрын

@@porky1118 As someone who watched/read both, definitely not. The anime took only the worst parts of the manga's final third and somehow made them even worse. Even though I agree with a lot of the criticisms laid out in this video, there were also a lot of good things in the manga that are not all mentioned or discussed here in this video. There are also things laid out as fact here that I think are more a matter of personal taste than actually objective points. And also there's "criticisms" that are just flat wrong or not fully though out. I wouldn't recommend taking this video as evidence of the anime being "better", and even recommend at least trying out the manga for yourself if you enjoyed the anime at all, because it is better and worth reading.

@nxfelibata2403

Жыл бұрын

@@HecateWitch13 To sum up what you said - Reading Manga is always a better experience than watching the anime. This needs no debate, it’s something that everyone agrees upon. However in this particular instance, the anime layout is not as frustrating as the manga layout; simply because people go in watching an anime expecting disappointment via bad writing maybe even crap writing, but manga is like the “book of a movie” to an anime, it’s supposed to contain everything, every single little detail of it or at least every important detail that contributes to the plot , which this manga failed to do. I’d say it was more rushed, cause it started of amazing, then went downhill, also never climaxed.

@Yuki-qs5mt

Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you 🙏✝️

Season 1: Unique and Mysterious Season 2: Let's just answer everything and turn the whole show into a cliché

@TheSoulCalledZuzia

8 ай бұрын

That's what mysteries are for

The story was like writing an essay with a time limit. The first few paragraphs are clear and well structured. You have 5mins left to write the last few paragraphs.

@jaimenon5592

2 жыл бұрын

I never thought there was such a perfect way to put this

@euphoriaaaa3900

2 жыл бұрын

this was probably how it went lol.

@CX4_Pandea

2 жыл бұрын

Basically me during exams. Amazing introduction and story plot but towards the end.....it all goes downhill, BUT the plot is still there

@mcfry13

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly if shonen doesnt score high in popularity polls, it gets canceled and mangaka have to finish their stories within a few months. Happened with other manga like Hitman Reborn, History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi, Bleach, and many many more.

@BiigiieCheeese

2 жыл бұрын

B=rg

I feel like it would've been better if it had an ending where instead of Emma forgetting everyone, that everyone forgot Emma, and she was now alone, but was happy her family survived.

@kittykat896

3 жыл бұрын

Sooooo I DO like that way more 😲

@Matteus2109

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Emma and the family never meet back up again, and the family drifts apart without her being the glue to hold it together (Him gets what he wants in the bargain; Emma's family)

@asiaroderick3006

3 жыл бұрын

I just felt like to show was just about her and not the boys like what was this season 1 amazing season 2 horrible

@james1311na

3 жыл бұрын

@@asiaroderick3006 you watched the anime? Anime is worse

@H3art_c10uds

3 жыл бұрын

@Jess WAIT NOOO PLEASEEE😭

I was pissed off when I learned the anime skipped the goldy pond arc. I felt like that arc has such a huge impact on the story and I feel bad that the creators of TPN got rushed.

@sunnysodapop

Жыл бұрын

Are you FR?! That was the only thing I was looking forward to in the anime.

@idotic_kid

Жыл бұрын

IT WHAT

@pod4707

Жыл бұрын

I immediately realized that something was wrong when there was a pack of cookies in the room, but no Man.

@sunnysodapop

Жыл бұрын

@@pod4707 That comment is just so funny...

@reofloyd6533

Жыл бұрын

@@pod4707LMAO FRR

I was, and still am, so disappointed in the fact that nothing was *ever* done with Ayshe. Norman literally killed her father. She hates his guts. I was waiting for the moment she would appear as a secondary villain or at the very least some kind of way to communicate that Demons can love, love *humans*, and humans can love *them*. They *can* coexist. But nah. That's too hard for Emma to solve so it doesn't happen at all.

@claireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Жыл бұрын

honestly,thats very difficult. Humans are their source of food ayshe should be lucky she found a demon who was willing to be her father the other grace field kids who met mujika and sonju are lucky too as they believe in their religion(we could still see the urge of sonju that he wanted to eat humans)

@aceclover758

6 ай бұрын

Sonju at least had a reason. He wanted to go back to the time the humans were competent and able to fight back. He enjoyed the thrill of the hunt for prey that can fight back and hold their own

@smcphee8499

4 ай бұрын

@@aceclover758 no that Lewis. Sonjuu just to eat ‘natural’ because it was loophole for his religion.

Norman: All demons need to die Emma: No Norman: Perfectly understandable, have a great day

@ellusiv5121

3 жыл бұрын

Norman: "Stupid of me to think for myself. It's not like I have a big brain or anything."

@ahorribleterribleperson

2 жыл бұрын

Emma is a Mary sue huh?

@ophelia9083

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahorribleterribleperson yes

@nemezizthedestroyer5237

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahorribleterribleperson nah

@ahorribleterribleperson

2 жыл бұрын

@@nemezizthedestroyer5237 how is she not a Mary sue? Can you give me some reasons?

In the second half I started playing a fun drinking game: drink whenever Ray speaks. I stayed very very sober...

@nothanksthough

3 жыл бұрын

Sad

@judgmentalanimal

3 жыл бұрын

Look how they massacred my boy

@liben5052

3 жыл бұрын

yeah about the time after they escaped, ray felt like an accessory to emma. when norman was thinking about killing all the demons, i thought ray would get involved more, but he just agrees with emma (granted i guess you could consider his "development" was taking less of a cynical approach and accepting optimism). when emma makes the new promise, ray literally just gets lost af and psychologically tortured without accomplishing anything if i remember correctly. it's just hilariously tragic that the only reason he was relevant/interesting after all was 1. super rare birth condition 2. being isabella's son.

@judgmentalanimal

3 жыл бұрын

@@liben5052 First arc Ray: Realist, not willing to take huge risks, very self sacrificing, will stop at nothing to make sure his plans work out Every other arc: *Why am I not dead yet?*

@loregoblin3854

3 жыл бұрын

one of the things I take a bit of issue with in this video is that Emma isn't just an idealist. I mean, she is, but her strength is in knowing, fully and completely, how hard it is to achieve her ideals, and still demanding that they be achieved anyway. it's high risk, high reward, and the interesting thing is honestly how BOTH of the boys react to this. for Norman, achieving what Emma wants is accepted because 1. he loves Emma and wants to make her happy and 2. Norman fundamentally rises to challenge. because of these two things, Norman decides to accept Emma's conditions for success basically right away. but, conspicuously, the fact that Norman wants to save his family is lower on his priority list. it is certainly there... he does want to save them. but he wouldn't have tried if Emma didn't insist. meanwhile, Ray gave up on Emma's idealistic demands before he even fully considered them. he's been laboring under the assumption that the most he could ever hope for is maybe saving Emma and Norman too... he cares like Emma, but he doesn't gamble. he's the one who really sells us on the idea that if things go wrong, they could lose absolutely everything. why else would he have sat by and let so many of his siblings be taken away, knowing what was really happening to them, for years? he was convinced that it was hopeless... that if he attempted to escape, he might not even survive, much less make it out with anyone else. really, Emma is the unifying element here. if it weren't for her, Norman wouldn't have thought to try and save everyone, even though he proves that he has the intellectual ability when pushed, and Ray wouldn't have the confidence to try and save everyone, even though he actually can pull it off when he throws caution to the wind and tries his hardest. and this is really interesting, because the person who says "yes" to Emma and enables her pursuit of a perfect solution is Norman, someone who mainly considers things in terms of pragmatism, and simply believes he can solve their conundrum... while the person with the most virulent objections and doubts is Ray, the one who has felt the most grief at each loss, because he actually knew what they were losing the whole time. Ray is jumpy about how much more they might lose if they mess up. how bad it could be if they fail. Norman is intrigued by the challenge of trying, and hasn't been bombarded by loss over such a long period of time the way Ray has. what I'm saying is that Ray and Emma actually have a lot of grounds on which to connect, and I think the story would've been a lot stronger if it was emphasized that Emma and Ray had gotten closer over their time traveling together. their perspectives align quite a bit, while Norman's mindset was always hinted at being a bit different than the way the other two think. and this would naturally be compounded by Norman's experiences after leaving Gracefield... after he's experienced more situations in which he is helpless, cared about more people that he couldn't save, and related to the grief and anger of more people who had experienced more different kinds of cruelty. what I was hoping to see when these characters were reunited, was Ray stepping up to the plate and opposing Norman, not even for Emma's sake, but for his own sake. because back at Gracefield, deep down, he wanted to save his whole family. if someone had offered him a surefire way to get every single child out of there, he would've jumped at the chance in an instant. and as he and Emma have traveled and experienced this world, the two of them have gained a more complex understanding of what's going on in it. Emma went to Goldy Pond... she knows the attitudes of the demons that ran it, and how they think. she knows that some demons are just cruel beings who find it thrilling to hunt and kill children. and that didn't stop her from having hope in the idea that demons like Mujika could live in harmony with humans. and I think this is because of how directly Emma has faced all of the villains in this series. Emma faced off against Isabella... someone who offered Emma the opportunity to become just like her. but Emma isn't like her. Emma and Isabella, two humans, are fundamentally different. they could never see eye to eye. Andrew and his team terrorized their group and killed people that Emma mourned (it's really terrible that the writing couldn't reflect this because it's super important for this exact reason). half of Emma's biggest problems have been humans. but humans like herself, and Ray, and her siblings also exist. you can't claim to want to save all of humanity while thinking of them as a homogeneously good population. humans, as a group, are full of individuals, both good and bad. and likewise, you can't vow to eradicate all the demons as if they are a homogeneously evil population... the individuals within their population are just as varied and complicated. at this point, Emma can't really be characterized as naive... she knows all of the things that a person might say in response to her idealism, in order to dissuade her from it. she knows, and she still wants idealistic things. she's only gotten as far as she has by asking for the impossible, and then trying really hard until she and her family end up pretty near to what she wanted. she is idealistic through effort, in the face of reality, fully aware of how ridiculous her demands may be. in this way, she is stronger than both Ray and Norman. and Ray is the one who actually kind of realizes this, while Norman is probably still assuming that if he was ever going to help Emma get what she wanted, he'd be humoring her. the story up until they reunite with Norman was supposed to be proof that Emma was right about their plan to escape from Gracefield. it wasn't just luck, or a fluke... she was correct that they could do it, and the proof is that they did. Emma has what it takes to work for what she wants. she isn't frivolous. and Norman himself has to display, to her and Ray, what it is that he actually wants... because it's not going to go unchallenged.

I was really bummed that Norman's escape from Lambda was never shown except in very small tidbits. What did he do once he learned about Vincent? How did they work together and work with the other Lambda kids? How did he discover Smee was on their side? Norman's cunning and plans were so amazing to read in the first arc, I wanted to see how he would get out of a high security prison like Lambda.

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to see that too. Apparently the author really wanted to include that in the story but couldn’t find a place to fit it in.:(

@Chelsea_Danger

2 жыл бұрын

@@Metal_Dragon_ Kinda seems to be a trend where a lot of great ideas the author had just didnt get included due to not enough time. :(

@marcocartaerainnocente7374

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like a season, and I mean the WHOLE season, was about them trying to figure out how to escape the farm. Now, Norman gets closed in a laboratory, and he’s like “I guess I’ll escape” like it was a piece of cake. 😮

@Masckerdoom

8 ай бұрын

They can always go back and make a special story as long as interest in the series persists.

@Seleznyaka

3 ай бұрын

@@marcocartaerainnocente7374 the irony is that norman didnt escape from the house and "died", but managed to escape from the secured lab and ITS NOT SHOWED TO US.

would’ve been interesting to see a reveal where emma endured such a strong traumatic event toward the mid to end of the story, that it cracks through her forced optimism and her naivety, changing her. It would be a great way for her character to eventually be eroded by this world to the point that the writers don’t have this “emma problem”

@annajung1234

Жыл бұрын

They could even let her get back to her idealism after that. But it would be a different kind of idealism, more grounded, the one she actually had to make a conscious choice to keep despite everything, had to fight for. But instead Emma just never faces any real challenges to her naïve worldview.

@jaimeruiz7837

Жыл бұрын

Or just kill her off because Emma was annoying?

@williamwoolf8072

11 ай бұрын

@@annajung1234 yup the common shounen protag problem

Norman: "I want to kill all demons!" Emma: "but don't though" Norman: "Okaaaay!"

@doordonot

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahahaha one of the best things for the world of manga.

@Francorocco

3 жыл бұрын

My god i almost screamed at the screen on this episode, this was bullshit

@colbygardiner5701

3 жыл бұрын

Emma ruined it so much. She was a suicidal character that doenst know how the world worked. If they killed her the book would of been over faster

@lillianetsmith

3 жыл бұрын

Did...did I find a John Mulaney joke...?

@KP-hs9sg

3 жыл бұрын

Talk no jutsu

Manga problem: everything post Goldy Pond is too rushed and under developed. Solution?: develop this part of the story more in the anime What the anime actually does: rushes the whole rest of the story and makes the problem even worse What the actual fuck

@jturner2577

3 жыл бұрын

How did they screw up so bad?

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Well the author was rushed even though the series was selling very well. That was the main problem. Even the author mentioned in a interview that he planned the first arc for 6 years. Literally top 10 best selling series from 2016-2020 even won awards before the anime. And to add even the one piece and my hero authors praised it. And 25 millions copies sold worldwide up to now and got nominated for an award against demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen for 2021

@superlynx98

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalaland9838 it's such a shame 😭😭

@dipo7502

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalaland9838 Genuine question, why was the author rushed by Jump? The manga was doing really well and Jump rushing the author seems like a very stupid move

@ShonenVR

3 жыл бұрын

@@dipo7502 they are lying throught their theeth don't listen to thel shonen jump didn't rush shit. If the first arc was so good was because the author planned that shit for years, unlike the rest of the manga.

Honestly, this series seemed impossible to write with a weekly release schedule. It was too complicated and took too much thinking a revision to make work without berserk style hiatuses. Honestly hearing the downfall of this series makes me think the best thing for mangas like Berserk is to not have an ending.

@farlonmuentes6004

2 жыл бұрын

the problem is they had too much vision that they made it seem like the first arc was just an appetizer and that the audience should anticipate for more. if they did it like other one season animes where they can just change the enemies as regular humans and escaping is the end goal, it would've been fine.

@Sesameking482

Жыл бұрын

They were forced to rush the making of the manga by the publishers, they wrote this manga three years ahead

@yukiandkanamekuran

Жыл бұрын

thats what it sounds like. It really seems like the publishers forced the writing.

@FirmlyGrasp_IT

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@Sesameking482 one of the most successful Shonen Jump titles of the past decade got axed lmao gtfoh yeh right buddy. Stop spreading misinformation

@Sesameking482

6 ай бұрын

@@FirmlyGrasp_IT when did I ever say it got axed. I think you reread my comment buddy. I just I added extra information to the main comment.

It's such a genuine shame because I'm sure NONE of this was the writers' fault. They all probably had such huge plans and plot twists, development they wanted to do, trauma to introduce, deaths to have meaning, moral dilemmas to be much more severe and frequent. It was probably the publisher who went "You got x amount of chapters and months to get it done soon. Ending and all. Then you're finished. Good luck." Which is so sad for the writer's because they'll most likely get the blame for how rushed and bad the story became.

@immkk1125

Жыл бұрын

ikr i feel so bad for the authors 😭😭 i wanna start a fan financed project so that the authors can finally rewrite tnp the way it was « supposed » to be

@Metal_Dragon_

Жыл бұрын

The author actually confirmed that there was a ton of other stuff he wanted to include but never got the chance.

@JustADoodle00

Жыл бұрын

That breaks my heart

@jojofanatico6928

Жыл бұрын

who knows, maybe its actually the writers fault, maybe not

@ashlinthomas4500

Жыл бұрын

Nah I think it’s also the authors fault. He allegedly spent years thinking up and writing season 1 of The Promised Neverland, and probably a little bit after it as well. It’s no surprise that the manga falls off after the first (couple) arc(s).

The problem with this manga: The first arc feels like attack on titan. We don't know anything about the outside and it's all about getting clues one by one. The rest of the manga is like Fairy Tail. A constant introduction of characters that get forgotten next arc, an incredible abuse of the nakama power and no matter how great the danger is everyone survives without problem

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

Try Shadows House next, you might find it way better than TPN. The series is like the extended version of TPN first arc but much better and consistant

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@koalabear4964 The manga has a good concept but the execution of the story is garbage. They should've preserve the mystery genre of the series while not sacrificing the shonen aspec. But this is published by Shonen Jump so it will alway go full blown shonen

@werst9

3 жыл бұрын

at least fairy tail is 90% comedy and i honestly think the power of friendship always saving the day is a running joke. It's so cliche i think it may just be a secret parody of shonen anime but maybe thats the optimist in me.

@jmddddddd1

3 жыл бұрын

same thoughtttt

@chromenjones2373

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 @Batmeme Yes! I'm so glad i found someone else who read Shadow house! It's getting an anime by Cloverwork studio too so please look forward to it (○ ㅂ○)/~☆

It became from this thriller, bloody, and mature manga into a shounen manga where friendship and dedication is the master key for all problems.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

Try Shadows House, it has some same aspect and vibes as TPN but at least it's more planned out..

@ember-evergarden

3 жыл бұрын

@GGR Makes Even FT is better than this shit because it doesn't pretend. It accepts that it's reeking shit.

@gravitea903

3 жыл бұрын

@GGR Makes hahaha aot 😂😂

@bombaybombay2793

3 жыл бұрын

They should have just left it at the escape arc

@wegner7036

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but that is not the problem. On its own that is not even a remotely bad thing.

Can say as someone who dropped after the goldey pond arc, I'm not that surprised the vibe was shifted over to the "Emma is god and always right". As soon as they got to the base, it felt like Ray was being sidelined and Norman was religated to world building that didn't really matter. Like, Emma was a good character with good morals, but she was only made great by Ray and Norman having different perspectives on what was the best outcome.

21:49, It's the same thing with Ray. He had been holding his emotions in since he turned six years old, so I expected there to be at least one scene of him letting them out and showing at least Emma and the reader what that was like, but no.

Guys! We shouldn't eat humans anymore ok? SURE! The biggest joke.

@Zeldarulah

3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me so much of the ending of Yu Yu Hakusho except Yu Yu Hakusho was like 50% comedy 50% action whereas Promised Neverland was meant to be horror / some realism / danger, so when in YYH all the demons are able to put aside their hatred for humans and embrace their warrior spirit it feels kind of like bullshit but its fine and in The Promised Neverland its just another fucking shitty cherry on top of a pile of ass-pulls that the series had been doing to make everything work out for Emma forever for like 100 chapters straight

@squigglypop8748

3 жыл бұрын

@@RC.- not really. Atleast the diamond had real history with Steven or atleast pink diamond. They only did it because they loved pink diamond. Whereas this is the equivalent of convincing every single human to go vegan. Literally impossible.

@PetitTasdeBoue

3 жыл бұрын

@@RC.- But you can excuse it since they consider Steven like their younger sister Pink Diamond and they want to apologize because they think it'ss their fault she disappeared etc. (Even if the fact that they become pacifist like that is so dumb that's true lol), you can always tell yourself they do it for their cute little sister. Here that's just 100% BS with no excuses.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

If you guys want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House, you might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series.

@icecreamhero2375

3 жыл бұрын

That reminds me of Steven Universe. *Steven:* Stop being evil *Diamonds:* Ok

Ever noticed how all the kids that die are just nameless background characters?

@S2MiaS2

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure one was called Mary??? Other than that one and the brat in a coma all of them were just less and less mentioned until they vanished

@melody-cn3wk

3 жыл бұрын

I mean there was conny but she’s this now 🥩

@co7769

3 жыл бұрын

@@melody-cn3wk isnt she more like poop though? Or whatever the demons poop, if they poop that is.

@melody-cn3wk

3 жыл бұрын

@@co7769 oh right

@rakha9119

3 жыл бұрын

except for yuugo and his friend that died inside of the shelter

There is an extra chapter in the manga that explains why the mothers were on their side. Basically, Isabella convinced the rest of the moms in Grace Field to work with for her. She informed them of her plan and gave them a good reason to work with her; the demons had made them compete against each other for so long, when in reality it was them who they had to fight against. She also told them that their children were still alive (she knew because she was the grandma) and that they had a good chance at destroying the farm. To keep her word, she gave them a farewell note Ray had given her before leaving. She told them that if she broke their trust, they could take the note to the higher-ups and say that the reason she let the kids escape was because Ray was her son. So yeah, it wasn’t like the moms just sided with the kids so easily.

@tonyramirez5707

Жыл бұрын

Retcon

@poppythedogofwonders

3 ай бұрын

So an extra chapter that's presumably optional to read that anyone could skip and it's not included directly in the main story despite it being a pretty important piece of information?

@jrlombardi5251

9 күн бұрын

@@poppythedogofwonders While not putting something so important on the main story is absolutely terrible, extra chapters aren't optional, if people decides to skip them that's on them but they exist for a reason, decide to completely ignore them for no reason is on them. That said, again, yes, it should have been in the main story, not having it there shows the terrible structure on the writing.

In my opinion, it would've been better if The Promised Neverland was an horror anthology shonen manga. Each and every arc, with different protagonists planning an escape from getting eaten a la Chicken Run but darker, instead of having a confusing and convoluted ass story which makes research on Metal Gear lore look as easy as finding your favorite Pokémon plush buried in a plethora of others.

@immkk1125

Жыл бұрын

ohhh i’m interested…it’s a shame we didn’t get to see what the other kids in the other farms did

@lockerbuddy2039

5 ай бұрын

That woulda been great for that hunting game arc. Each story taking place in the same world and only loosely connecting at best. I'd love an arc of some adults trying to break into the demon world thing and having a brutal time. Stuff like that.

Honestly, Ray had been traumatized by the demons since he was born. I was expecting him to side with Norman because he is the logical and pragmatic one and would have realized that making all demons vegans was impossible. Also, it would show his relationship with Norman, you know, the other person for whom he risked his life. He could have been like "kill all of the demons, minus Sonju and Mujica and we are good fam". Instead, he got reduced to following Emma's lead. They straight up made him a side character.

@grantsamson2384

3 жыл бұрын

I would've expected him to stay with Emma, but constantly disagree with her and try to push her to Normans side.

@iwannasleepplz

3 жыл бұрын

Ray is a tsundere. He's as soft as Emma, but tries to have that stoic nature for survival. Like he said, he never wanted to study and he never liked it, but he had to save his siblings

@Anu32148

3 жыл бұрын

To get more closure you guys should read tpn chp 181.1 it is centered around ray and his childhood, I kinda teared up reading it..

@co7769

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anu32148 yea I just finished reading it, it made me think "Holy shit, it's because of Ray that literally everything happened!" If it wasn't for him telling Emma and Norman to return little bunny to Connie they would have never know and just be shipped out. That last shot of him holding the bunny and saying "let's begin" or something like that, I liked it. Yea up until chapter 181.1 I had forgotten that Ray literally spent 6 years letting his friends die and how hard that was for him.

@bombaybombay2793

3 жыл бұрын

At this point I think we can all agree the first season/Arc of the promised Neverland is the best thing in the entire series And the only thing that might be a 10/10

For those of you who didn't watch the whole thing, here is a tldr: Everyone: Solving world hunger is impossible... Emma: Let's solve world hunger! Everyone: Sure, it's doable.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

Truelly what a Mary Sue would say.

@linaaviles1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 learn what a Mary Sue is

@weaboi1461

3 жыл бұрын

@@linaaviles1971 cope

@Skeloperch

3 жыл бұрын

@@linaaviles1971 That is pretty Mary-Sue-ish, not gonna lie. But more of a author self-insert/Messiah Complex than anything.

@lordsinister707

3 жыл бұрын

That was the one problem with Emma. I love the concept of her character and everything but frankly she was just naive and the story seemed to cater to that way too much.

A nice 20 chapter arc covering the time skip, showing off all the features and plans forged in the bunker, as well as Emma’s squads progression would’ve been really nice

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed maybe one day we could get bonus chapters or light novels about that

@FreshBOI1579

2 жыл бұрын

@@Metal_Dragon_ it would be amazing, sucks to see one of my favorite ever series advance how it did

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

@@FreshBOI1579 TPN is still one of my favorite series but I get the criticism for it.

Killing a character and reviving it is really a deal breaker to me in almost every story. If you did once every other death is just lose it's meaning for me. :(

@jrlombardi5251

9 күн бұрын

coming from reading Lewis death and finding so funny that he survived when he has literally no way to survive that lol

I really hated how Norman and his team had been planning that shit and thinking about it for so long just to change his mind that fast lmao

@co7769

3 жыл бұрын

I actually really wanted Norman to slap Emma in the face when they were talking about changing Normans mind before they went to the Seven Walls. Even during the first arc when she didnt want to let anyone behind I was like ok you know what, it's reckless and a stupid ass decision but we can make it work. But choosing the stupid ass decision every single time during the whole story? Cmon dude! And then I everything just works out and we never lose anyone important. Not saying Ray or Norman but maybe losing Don or Gilda would have been a bold but acceptable move.

@inconspicuoushoodie4504

3 жыл бұрын

What do you expect Norman's A HUGE simp, if emma wasn't such a DENSE GOOF she would've found out his feeling for her when they were six lol

@Lvlaple4Ever

3 жыл бұрын

@@inconspicuoushoodie4504 Yup, but imagine simping for an annoying, righteous bullshit optimist like Emma tho 🤮🤮🤮

@inconspicuoushoodie4504

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lvlaple4Ever Imagine having a "TOP TIER BRAIN" and Simping for Emma, Couldn't be me.

@doctorwholover1012

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that they didn't have norman make the bold choice to go against Emma and do what he had planned regardless of the damage to their relationship/Emma's feelings is so bizarre to me, like??? The narrative tension? The betrayal? The drama? They could have done so much with that and how it changed their dynamic and the core of each of their morals/values/etc. But no, they just threw it away 🙄

It makes me really angry that they added so many new kids only so that they can kill them off because they couldnt kill anyone from Emmas "family" only because she didnt want that.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

Try Shadows House next, it's prety much like an extended version of TPN first arc.

@323_iso9

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr it’s so unrealistic Emma is a literal god in this how is she not dead

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@323_iso9 a merry sue

@323_iso9

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 yea exactly a merry sue I liked her in season 1 but in season 2 they ruined her character, when I think of Emma I think of the kind and loving Emma not that annoying bich that calls her self Emma in season 2

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@323_iso9 She's an impostor?😳

I just finished after it losing me a couple years ago and I think that not reading weekly really helped it flow better for me. Complaints here were valid but I still really enjoyed the manga and the last extra chapter just put a giant smile on my face! 🦒🦒🦒

@Metal_Dragon_

Жыл бұрын

Did you read the bonus chapters?

The fact that goldy pond will probably never be animated is so depressing

Imma just pretend everything ended in season 1 🕳️🚶‍♀️

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House. You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series.

@lem.n_

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 ooooo where do i read it? and do they have the same creator? or is it just a fan fiction?

@lem.n_

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 Thank you!!

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@lem.n_ How was it?

@germa397

3 жыл бұрын

Guys i havent watch TPN and am deciding to watch it shoulf i watch season 1 only and not season 2 because im hearing its rlly bad

I felt bad for all the Phil fans, they built him up to be Ray 2.0 but he does NOTHING.

@melody-cn3wk

3 жыл бұрын

Fr He got less then 5 minutes of screen time 😭😭😭

@petrichorrs

3 жыл бұрын

No human language can describe the disappointment we’re feeling right now.

@timmy9138

3 жыл бұрын

He would’ve been a good ray 😔

@NayelianneVernalle

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! He kept showing up and appeared mature enough to get a nice character development, I spent most of the manga looking forward to his reappearance and then...nada

@ark14700

3 жыл бұрын

@@NayelianneVernalle Whaat, there were so many manga readers hyping up Phil during season 1. Was Phil a lie?

i thought there will be a moment "didnt you think it was too easy?" to reveal she was locked up somewhere with tubes everywhere waking up realizing nothing changed

I like how there’s just Isabella’s lullaby playing in the background at like around 4 min.

wouldn't emma's sacrifice in the end have been more meaningful if she'd remembered her family but they didn't? because if she just forgets, she won't exactly know what she was missing lol

@splaat239

3 жыл бұрын

It's more of a sacrifice for everyone but her. They're just strangers but for her but the the others she was a family to them for so long.

@taylormelton3088

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would’ve liked that more. Can you imagine Emma’s face and breakdown seeing Ray and Norman be like “who are you?” Sacrifice is losing something or someone for a greater good. That’s her losing her family. That is a true sacrifice. Emma is so used to everyone agreeing with her and being on her side, that having them lose their memories would almost break her tbh. But it would’ve been better!

@lixyororke

3 жыл бұрын

@@splaat239 exactly, she didn’t sacrifice anything, they did. That’s not exactly selfless sacrifice

@stillrunnin8486

2 жыл бұрын

When they went to make a new promise and that all mighty demon made a proposal, my guess was that the demon would ask for Emma to stay as compensation for the new promise. Since Emma is all free spirited and very imaginative, staying in that realm would keep that demon entertained for eternity. But instead it asked for memories lol.

@rokamayono2312

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Gah, they did Ray so dirty. We spend all that time after they escape building the relationship between him and Emma and getting used to not having Norman anymore but as soon as Norman reappears Ray is shoved into the background. He had opinions of his own way back when but now he only existed to another nodding head to Emma. And I despised how they played down his relationship with Isabella, his BIOLOGICAL MOTHER, for the sake of Emma.

@rthao1872

3 жыл бұрын

OMG I KNOW, I hate how they did that, I really wanted to see them do more with Ray and his relationship with his Mom. And it sucks that they just made Emma a Mary Sue, having everyone do everything just cause she said so. She could've been such a good female MC.

@charlostainsawshades6962

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, Ray’s behaviour is very accurate to child victims of narcissism. When your parents hide things to look good in front of other people and they pressure you to do the same, you will loose affection to your parents.

@runnydiarrhea3274

3 жыл бұрын

yeah but they wouldn’t have had a good one

@joshgroban5291

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's because the mangaka prolly didn't know what to do with Ray.

@nullakjg767

3 жыл бұрын

Ray exists only a character to give them a weapon to fight back against isabelle in season 1. I didnt think so at first but upon finishing the series its obvious hes just to be a plot twist revalation with OMG HE KNEW ALL ALONG AND WAS PREPARING THE WHOLE TIME!, everything else was just an afterthought.

if you want a manga/anime that pulls off this conflict between humans and demons perfectly, try Shiki. the first part sets up humans as the underdog, in the second part they start fighting back by any means possible, and by the end... you really don't know whom to root for anymore

I don’t mind the lack of backstory on the characters from goldy pond as I feel it actually is meant to up to your imagination and you’re meant to learn the characters anew as you go. You as the reader already know that they were kids taken from random farms and brought there to be hunted, I found it more menacing and terrifying imagining a little kid who was living a regular life (in their perspective) just get randomly sent to a demon hunting ground. I found them as characters who I knew went through phycological and physical hell and was even more intrigued to learn first hand about who they were.

@jrlombardi5251

9 күн бұрын

also, they all have the same backstory so besides some little changes they could have had here and there, telling us every backstory would feel like saying the same over and over again. Having one panel flashbacks of them being scared when they got there and loosing someone from their family while showing us them properly in the present is enough

You forgot to mention in your list how the fearsome queen that slaughtered a bunch of noble demons with ease couldn't kill a single human

@Lowart

3 жыл бұрын

aaaaaaaaah

@sarafontanini7051

3 жыл бұрын

The closest thing to the main villain of the story....killed off within two chapters while abrely doing anything in the story as a whole

@danguy6591

3 жыл бұрын

What about 12 yo children shooting from two machine guns like rembo

@MidoriGa95

3 жыл бұрын

This! I was at first like "ohhhhh she's stronggggg. Sanjoo where are youuuu come help emma"but when the queen was defeated by "mere" hunger and musica explained about the cause of queen's defeat, I was like. It'd be more epic if queen went completely berserk and destroyed half of the city lol

@banyalaplace

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO so true! I had flashbacks from the last seasons of GOT with the whitewalkers

Emma: Don't start the rumbling Eren: I'm sorry mam I was wrong about it

@strollas

3 жыл бұрын

truee

@thallan

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he DID forgor 💀 about why he did it.

@shini7511

2 жыл бұрын

Eren would eat this useless character lol

@jb3058

2 жыл бұрын

lmao it's pretty ironic eren says he doesn't know why he did it

@danielleonsantosfreitas1180

2 жыл бұрын

@@jb3058 That IS Crazy and the WORST PART of The final of Attack on titan,

I remember being so confused in the second half, thinking I must've zoned out or missed chapters. I had to go back and check, multiple times, that I hadn't missed crucial information. Everything fell into place too easily at the end and it was just so lacklustre and undeserved. The ending was the bow glued to a piece of coal, when the promise WASN'T EVEN KEPT. It left such a bitter taste in my mouth for a series that initially had me on the edge of my seat and desperate for more chapters 😢

It sucks isabella didnt get to talk to Ray really very much before she kicked it

To be honest I just pretend that the promised neverland was a short series that ended after they escaped the farm. A tight and well-written thriller/fantasy that leaves the ending very open-ended! Oh, and it *definitely* got a great anime adaptation that is a nice one-season-long adaptation of the great short story!

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Well the author was rushed even though the series was selling very well. That was the main problem. Even the author mentioned in a interview that he planned the first arc for 6 years. Literally top 10 best selling series from 2016-2020 even won awards before the anime. And to add even the one piece and my hero authors praised it. And 25 millions copies sold worldwide up to now and got nominated for an award against demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen for 2021

@judgmentalanimal

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. We are all imagining things. The manga and anime ended at the escape arc with a bittersweet finale that let the views imagine what the kids would do now in the outside world.

@rexcraptor2761

3 жыл бұрын

I imagine it ended after the goldy pond arc, they just all live in that bunker now in my head

@FRElHEIT

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@hoesmad8207

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna be honest here. I spent almost 100 euros on the complete manga series. Knowing how it went, I told my friend that was about to purchase it to drop it at volume 5

this is the problem in the manga industry. When the manga gets popular, the mangakas just have to become a chapter producing machine that has to be rushed tnh.

@Lilitha11

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is true. I wish they would throw their weight around a bit more and demand more time if they need it. I know that isn't really a popular way of thinking in Japan, and you might get labeled difficult to work with, but if you are popular enough you probably could get away with it.

@changhyon92

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lilitha11 doesn't Oda do something similar to that?

@theshockmaster3781

3 жыл бұрын

@@changhyon92 actually no Oda was forced to take breaks because his health was declining from overwork.

@leviharris-hale6578

3 жыл бұрын

@@theshockmaster3781 Oda has the best selling manga of all time, he can do whatever he wants. Plus unlike others he has no issues overworking himself for whatever reasons. He shouldn’t do it but he will if he has to. But other mangaka are not lucky enough to be allowed a break, those first few months missing a week or two can kill your series momentum hard.

@RsRj-qd2cg

3 жыл бұрын

And oftentimes when a mangaka or anime writer does get money and clout, they're so burnt out from getting there that they just retire.

Tbh I can't help but be happy for Emma and her family. It kind of gives me a feeling that the writer didn't want to harm their own characters anymore.

To be fair, I barely noticed all these obvious flaws at the end of the story, I just rushed through to discover what kind of deal Emma made, what she had to sacrifice. Now that I look at them, they are too big to just overlook them. It certainly wasn't told in a good way. But there was still something. It kinda gave me hope. Sure, Emma didn't go through hardly any change at all and the ending was way more happy than it should've been. But from an emotional point of view, I liked it. Emma and the ending wasn't really a character or a story anymore. It was more like the picture of an ideal. And it made me happy to see that. To see the unwavering believe in healing, peace and hope. To go even against destiny itself. And so on. But of course that doesn't excuse the crappy storytelling and the lack of character arcs.

@gauntlettcf5669

6 ай бұрын

I agree with the concept you expressed about the concept of unwavering believing in healing, peace and hope. Many people in this comment section seem so hellbent over the fact that it should have ended badly, or somewhat badly, possibly with Emma giving up on her hope or her ideals. It just irks me the wrong way.

I think the majority of problems faced by the manga can basically be summed up into one issue overall: It was rushed.

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Well the author was rushed even though the series was selling very well. That was the main problem. Even the author mentioned in a interview that he planned the first arc for 6 years. Literally top 10 best selling series from 2016-2020 even won awards before the anime. And to add even the one piece and my hero authors praised it. And 25 millions copies sold worldwide up to now and got nominated for an award against demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen for 2021

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Xavier Azhar i never mentioned you anywhere so you can actually do that if you want 😜

@notme8652

3 жыл бұрын

Publishers are weird

@TSH425

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalaland9838 it would be the other way the series was making bank the puplisers are greedy basterds they would want to co.tinue to make more money for instance naruto (the only time the series gets rushed is if it starts under performing and TPN was not underperforming

@TSH425

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalaland9838 it would be the other way the series was making bank the puplisers are greedy basterds they would want to co.tinue to make more money for instance naruto (the only time the series gets rushed is if it starts under performing and TPN was not underperforming

Emma: * breathes* Literally everyone else: that sure is one compelling argument

@nitashabaig404

3 жыл бұрын

This is soooo accurate like what the heck?? They literally say at multiple points throughout that they fundamentally disagree with Emma's logic and ideals but then two seconds later say, "omg Emma, anything for you bestie!"

@xxjadexx4291

3 жыл бұрын

@@nitashabaig404 Righttt. Don’t get me wrong I love Emma and all. Buhh can someone else have a second opinion and actually stick to it for a change lmaoo

@shoobzy3431

3 жыл бұрын

Any character: has a different view on something. Emma: *Yeah we don't do that here*

The first 60% of the story was good, probably up to the goldypord arc or the arc in which the military attacked the secret base and killed our fave character. The later 40%, while it had its moments (the arc we saw the societal structure of demons, and the mystery behind demons revealed by norman) was very rushed and completely negated everything it had build up to this point. Another red flag, was the lack of depth in all characters, to the point, were, all characters essentially turned into Emas, with the most notable example being the character of Ray. He probalby was the fave character of the fanbase in the jailbreak arc, and then.... he was completely overshadowed by ema, cause his beliefs and way of thinking became almost identical to hers. After the end of jailbreak arc we see a very nice and romantic transition to his thought process, he got ''tested'' at the next 2 arcs, and then his character vanished. Never questioning everything, always doing the same things ema did like... why? The same thing happened to yugo and norman but much faster for obvious reasons. Ray could barely be recognised as a main character after the goldypond arc

To be honest I really loved the manga, from the beginning to the end, even if some of the characters and the emotions were not well displayed and developed the moments and chapter definitely played well enough to let the viewers know of the intentions and "AMBITIONS" of the story

@soulrebelstudios3185

11 ай бұрын

i feel ya. some people like to nitpick hence the video.

I feel sorry for the creators the most. I have heard they had so much to write, so much planned... but the publishing agency turned around all of a sudden and told them they have to wrap it up in a certain amount of chapters and that's that. It's apparently a thing that happens a lot in the world of manga publishing.

@kittykat896

3 жыл бұрын

Bingo. The mangaka had the whole story written 3 years prior before he even found an artist to draw it. There's no way that the original script would have started rushing in the middle until it became a sprint in the end, if there was no amount of space limitations he had to conform to. Ironic that its the very publishers of manga, who've created the problem of not allowing great stories to be expressed through manga. And it seems like the problem has only been getting worse the more time goes by.

@tok_tj

3 жыл бұрын

@@kittykat896 exactly! If it started out so strong and was created 3 years prior to being drawn at all- then it would still be strong till the end! Hence why I'm glad one of the creators have taken the reigns on the 2nd season of the anime, because we know, he might get the chance to show us what he originally intended. Although I don't know how long the anime will get, I would hope that season two gets either a heck more episodes, or we get one or two more seasons.

@yoyoman8775

3 жыл бұрын

@@tok_tj unfortunately the second season seems to be stepping on the gas more in terms of pacing than the manga did, we can only hope that the creative liberties they’re taking are to tell another side of the story rather than rush through the original

@kittykat896

3 жыл бұрын

The Promised Neverland Committee rewrote Season 2 of the anime. That is what director Mamoru Kanbe has been deciding since Season 1. But he couldn't rewrite Season 1 cause of several reasons (not allowed to change the story because Season 1 is the debut of the series). And if they changed too much, viewers might not buy the manga. Remember that anime adaptations are created to increase visibility of the manga (in other words, advertising the manga to increase manga sales). In TPN's case, TPN manga already ended last Spring 2020. After the manga ended on June 15, 2020, TPN director Mamoru Kanbe was allowed to rewrite so he can compress half of Volume 5 and Volumes 6-20 in Season 2. Why is he compressing? He is compressing so The Promised Neverland Committee can milk the profits from the manga that just finished last year, and so that any Season 1 anime DVD sales can increase. If Season 1 anime DVD increased, they are also hoping increased sales on Season 2 of the anime DVD this year. The Promised Neverland Committee invited mangaka Kaiu Shirai into the team AFTER the rewrite was already finished. He "supervised" the script and the series composition to supposedly ensure the core elements of TPN (mystery, suspense,) exist in the anime. (This isn't the actual reason, the real reason being strictly PR). But at the end of the day, he can't do any more than "supervising" and approving what has already been done (rewrote). He can't disagree with The Promised Neverland Committee's choices, because they're the ones who bought the rights to the story. The only benefit the Committee has from Shirai-sensei is his name. Put his name in the credits and manga fans are sure to follow and watch the first few episodes of Season 2. They are gonna be hyped (which is what we have all done) even before Season 2 of the anime premiered, especially because mangaka Kaiu Shirai's name is in the anime as in charge of series composition (hence, script supervision). But there are also Shueisha staff in the Committee. Shueisha is the publishing house that has rights to sell Shōnen Jump magazine (the magazine where The Promised Neverland used to be serialized on a weekly basis). Shueisha members in the Committee ensure that themes of "friendship, effort, victory" (Shonen Jump's motto) remain intact in Season 2 of the anime. (This isnt the sole reason the other reason is to ensure that the script is created in a particular way in regards to pacing and how much or how little effort and investment will be allocated, as well as how much time/episodes will be available ). So, director Mamoru Kanbe must take TPN manga themes, reuse them in the anime, and speed run by squeezing all these themes in 11 episodes. Budget is also a big factor. CloverWorks has been established for only over 2 years. They are releasing 3 anime series this Winter 2021 (Horimiya, The Promised Neverland, and Wonder Egg Priority). All the high quality animation that CloverWorks Studio is supposed to inject to "The Promised Neverland Season 2" (if it were getting a proper adaptation and following the manga) were reallocated to: "Horimiya" - a one-cour comedy and romantic anime series that fans have been waiting for 11 years since the webtoon premiered over a decade ago (and since its manga premiered 8 years ago) Wonder Egg Priority - a one-cour anime original that CloverWorks Studio is prioritizing because of its traumatic themes: (molestation, harassment, suicides, student-teacher relationships).

@damesayo4656

3 жыл бұрын

So, publishers NEVER learn.

How is Emma gonna get more talking time with Ray’s dying mother than her actual son?

@pieroguy

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno... maybe because they were actually much closer and Ray never really loved her that much? Like he never seemed to care too much while Emma was really devastated when she learned the truth. Since the beginning she was the most empathic one of the main 3.

@racheal4186

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieroguy Well he knew the truth since he was a child, of course he won’t be as empathetic as everyone else. He was suffering longer than any other child there and that’s still his mother, he should get to spend to with her before her death…

@pieroguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@racheal4186 why tho? there is nothing special about their relationship besides the fact that she's his biological mother... You know that adopted children can be closer to their parents than the biological ones right? Especially since Emma's relationship with her was always much warmer... I do agree that the mother died too fast and it felt kind of rushed but I do not think that Ray should be in any way privileged about his time with her.

@racheal4186

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieroguy That’s still doesn’t make up for the fact that emma got like 5 minutes and the moment Ray stepped in she died.. even if there was nothing special about their relationship

@pieroguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@racheal4186 oh I was talking about the manga xD Sorry about that... I don't remember exactly how it went in the anime

the problem with TPN is simply due to it being a very small story that required incredible talent to make work outside its initial premisse. it was always fated to either become the most amazing story, or the biggest disapointment, with no "in between". its similar to bokurano, but while that manga succeeded due to knowing the limitations and taking advantage of the setting. TPN failed because it needed to be treated as a horror, minimalistic story. it was "born" a shounen manga that needed to be "raised" as a seinen.

One of the things Tokyo Ghoul really got right was the whole conflict between Ghouls and humans, and a lot of the problems you said don't exist in TG. It makes sense that people would follow Kaneki, given the fact that he has helped literally everyone. Kaneki connecting Ghouls and humans by becoming the common enemy was just wow. TG is so good.

@selamandreykum5844

Жыл бұрын

...Until the second half of Tokyo Ghoul:re, where all of these problems don't only exist, but are somehow even worse than in TPN...

Early Neverland: Thriller/Mind battle Middle Neverland: Survival/Tactical Late Neverland: Political Ending Neverland: *IM FAST AS FUCC BOI*

@CacaoColao

3 жыл бұрын

Promised Neverland Ending Speedrun 100%

@Francorocco

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically the last episode today was so fast that they only could render a slideshow of what was happening at the end

@juddis956

3 жыл бұрын

Leaving Neverland: HEEHEE

I remember that one theory that floated around the end about the price for Emma to save her family would be for her to get turned into a demon so she can't escape with everyone else. That would have been SO much better than what we got

@jturner2577

3 жыл бұрын

That might have been the initial plan.

@SOLO.DANDELION

3 жыл бұрын

I think that ending wasn't bad only if it didn't end with ray and connie but with the new generation to be looking for Emma it's sad that the new baby in season one was just that, the ending wasn't bad it just wasn't executed rashly

@Nothing-1w3

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, that's sounds awful

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

If you already finish reading TPN then you might need to try and read Shadows House next.

@frosty1064

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 i swear, i see you everywhere promoting shadow house in every tpn related comment or video.

I would not have minded the ending if it wasn't rushed. Like if we saw the kids looking for years intensely searching for Emma. It was too convenient

@zahraa4149

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It wouldn't have hurt to add a few chapters where they actually search or her. They were essentially going against fate. Not mention the part where they didn't actually know she if she made it

For issabella making the sisters and moms on her side the side story explained how she convinced them, though i wish it was added in the main story itself. Shonen jump had pressured the author to finish the story soon since it ran too long. The story would have really been better if they wouldnt have been given more time

When Emma started doing Talk no Jutsu I knew things were bad.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

things were already bad the momment the series became a full blown shonen. It just throw the mystery aspect.

@smcphee8499

3 жыл бұрын

When she hugged Sunjoo and he decided that didn’t want to eat them anymore had me rolling

@couchgamingnews9379

3 жыл бұрын

@@smcphee8499 same

@Hello-xc6jq

3 жыл бұрын

Facts when that started happening I was like "oh no not this"

@LinkEX

3 жыл бұрын

Guys, I think I've found a logical explanation why her _Talk no Jutsu_ is that powerful: Among the three main characters, she has the highest emotional quotient. This translated into a charisma level of 100 post time skip. We just haven't yet been informed about that.

Plot Twist: Emma has telepathy and controls minds to warp reality to her desire.

@kasyfi5546

3 жыл бұрын

That plot twist could almost save this anime/manga

@CantusTropus

3 жыл бұрын

That's not what telekinesis is but OK

@neilangelo2466

3 жыл бұрын

@@CantusTropus yea it's telepathy but close enough I guess

@user-qq1xj5zk9n

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it Telepathy at that point?

@Mailark

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the only fucking explanation lmaoooo

Season 1 of the anime is, with no exaggeration, one of my favorite seasons of anime. Top 5, easily. I didn't notice season 2 had aired until it was over and people were already reporting it sucked, so I never watched it. To this day I think of that first arc as the whole story. It's a suspense thriller like nothing else I've watched. Such a shame that the manga fell apart not long after the first arc, the escape. If it's true that the author was forced to truncate the story by publisher mandate, I would love to know what the intended story was.

Here is the thing, more often than not the first chapters of a manga are well crafted because they're not published yet, then the manga gets popular, and the creator had not planned further than certain point of the story, and they get pressured to pump out episode, and the more popular a manga is (more often than not) the writting/story gets progressively worse and worse, and this is mostly due to time constraints and serialisation(?), the publisher main goal (and hold on to your seat kids, cause this is a kicker) is to make MONEY, if a certain artist is popular and makes magazines fly of the shelf, then boom baby money money. This is a vicious cycle, cause sooner or later the audience becomes non-caring (or worse) due to the lack of performance from the creator, and it's easier to direct malcontent(?) towards and known entity i.e. the creators rather than the publishing houses. And those where my 2-cents. Skål på er pojkar och flickor

Alternate title: *" How The Promised Neverland Broke Its Promise "* Edit: yo 2k likes wth

@bezmagica

3 жыл бұрын

Genius

@whatuser9802

3 жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity

@cybunny25

3 жыл бұрын

I believe he already did the pun with his chapter titles

@nannarsluvbug

3 жыл бұрын

the promised neverland fans when the neverland isnt promised

@dragon_ninja_2186

3 жыл бұрын

The Broken Promised Neverland

The final antagonist of this series should have been Emma herself. Does Emma REALLY want to save her family because it's morally right? Or does she just want some happy neverland where everything goes her way? We have to realize that the very morals we abide by don't agree with our actions and that in order to do the RIGHT thing, we need to do the things we don't like.

@rokuyasu9143

3 жыл бұрын

vilin is demon because demon enemy of emmar.

@Francorocco

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, imagine if zebras had a possibility to kill all lions but some stupid zebra start to force every other zebra to ignore this solution because if she talks with the lions maybe they would stop eating then

@launcherx2044

3 жыл бұрын

@@Francorocco I dunno that sounds like a false equivalency, demons don't "need" humans they just turn veral the same can't be said about lions

@Francorocco

3 жыл бұрын

@@launcherx2044 kinda, but look at us, why isn't everyone vegan yet despite vegans trying to convince everyone that we don't need meat to survive Emma is basically that one annoying vegan that want to force everyone else into veganism

@launcherx2044

3 жыл бұрын

@@Francorocco which is exactly why there should've been more conflict

17:00 You're right. They could still kind of have the time skip. Just a few chapters which explain what happens during that year. Some generic actions, some character interactions, some reflections for the main cast, especially Emma.

This is a great video. It is a beloved piece of media for me as well and I’m glad you can recognize so many of its faults. Makes me want to watch FMA

We’re gonna need a Promise Neverland: Brotherhood

@turnipelder792

3 жыл бұрын

Because of Isabella Promised Neverland: Motherhood

@lexiusugrymius9392

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, manga version isn't much better.

@priyankanaser6435

3 жыл бұрын

@@lexiusugrymius9392 yea I kinda don't like the ending of the manga either

@trash1804

3 жыл бұрын

@@lexiusugrymius9392 The manga felt rushed but the anime is so obviously just trying to get it done with in just 12 episodes that it’s not even funny

@TriWidyan

3 жыл бұрын

Lets wait 10 or 20 years so they can make the remake version with the same manga plot.

I really wish this show had a second season. Its a shame it absolutely doesn’t.

@wooshbait6023

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah what a shame..

@tacoart2120

2 жыл бұрын

so sad :(

@emopeterparker7

2 жыл бұрын

PFBTNTNTN yeah so sad 😔 😔

@Rabbitonthemoon9

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, but headcannons exist :)

@Yourlocalbisexual6969

2 жыл бұрын

The second season of the Promised neverland is on hulu- (If that's what your talking about-)

I was planning to read this manga, but all these plot twists and conveniences you described gave me mental whiplash.

Whoa-hoh-hoh, I was not expecting that A&W meme. Good one!

tbh, the only thing that really bothered me was the fact that they reduced Ray from arguably the best character in the show, to Emma's pet just being there trying to mask the regression of his character as character developement. He is honestly one of my favourite characters in all of anime just for how gret and complex he was in the earlier arcs, but I feel we should get a lot more of his relationship with Norman after they reunited and a more detailed and in character view on the problem. He should be the one serving as a bridge between Norman and Emma as Norman was in the first arc, not being like " Yeah, I dont care either way, but Im guess Im gonna side with you Emma"

@renjuncth8822

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god yes you're so right

@inininin3901

3 жыл бұрын

@i want to commit literal genocide. look the overall quality of the writing definitely dropped after the goldy pond arc and everything felt rushed and random but in reality Ray's character bothered me a lot more because I related and was really attached to his character so yeah that was my biggest concern.

@a_vertical_line

3 жыл бұрын

Frr after norman came he was treated like a side character

@bootlicker

3 жыл бұрын

i know right? ray should've been the mc😩👆🏻

@inininin3901

3 жыл бұрын

@@bootlicker idk about mc but in the first and second arc he was such a complicated character and easily the better of the trio....

Emma seems like the Steven Universe of this manga. Lots of build up and promising things and it all gets solved just because the main character wants it to.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House. You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series...

@livingtribunal7471

3 жыл бұрын

Bakugo was right all along. Let us all be Bakugo and kill every problem to the ashes! Talk is cheap anyway!

@goose4349

3 жыл бұрын

And just like SU it got rushed

@arnowisp6244

3 жыл бұрын

@@goose4349 How the Heck is SU rushed?

@goose4349

3 жыл бұрын

@@arnowisp6244 CN rushed them cause it got too gay. the wedding scene was pretty much the breaking point.

Good ass video with clean editing, and yea I’ll also be pretending it ends in season 1

Does she have fate manipulation or something? 🗿

man, it really felt like the story was SOO DESPERATE for a happy ending where emma's utopia wish comes true, even if it means previous established characters changed on the flick of a switch, what wasted potential

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Well the author was rushed even though the series was selling very well. That was the main problem. Even the author mentioned in a interview that he planned the first arc for 6 years. Literally top 10 best selling series from 2016-2020 even won awards before the anime. And to add even the one piece and my hero authors praised it. And 25 millions copies sold worldwide up to now and got nominated for an award against demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen for 2021

@tragicsense5283

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit I didn't think I'd ever see u again. I used to love your animations a couple years back. How've u been

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! a verified person, If you want a series just like TPN but has a way better plot and story then maybe you should try and read Shadows House.

@bocodamondo

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 hmm, looks interesting

@bocodamondo

3 жыл бұрын

@@tragicsense5283 haha sorry bout that, ive just been drowning in commission work in the past few years

Isabelles death was one of the most infuriating things I’ve seen she should’ve been redeemed that would offer so much for her character and the fact that Emma is the one talks to her for so long while ray is her Actual Child it pisses me off so much

@cbbblue8348

3 жыл бұрын

If Isabelle participated more in the story other than coming back at last minute and says "I'm good now"

@S2MiaS2

3 жыл бұрын

The worst part for me? The dude that killed her. Where the FUCK did he came from???? Why was he there???? How NOBODY noticed the 5 meter creep coming towards them??? Fuck this whole scene...

@melody-cn3wk

3 жыл бұрын

Wait she died lol. Srry I didn’t read the manga yet

@monkegeneral6029

3 жыл бұрын

@@melody-cn3wk then why are you watching this video?

@melody-cn3wk

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkegeneral6029 I just watched the first and second season lmao

Man the promised neverland season 1 is one of my all time favorite animes

Wow, all this extra stuff after they escape is pretty cool, I wish they animated all this stuff for a second season Sucks there isn’t one already

Plot twist...this was all in Emma's head, this was her perfect world was created because ya girl had a mental breakdown and this was her way to cope.

@rluai6w7

3 жыл бұрын

THIS WOULD BE SUCH A GOOD AND SAD ENDING OMG IMAGINE THO?? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO DEPRESSING

@carmyne00

3 жыл бұрын

i would imagine that they never got to the human world and all of what was going on was all in her head as a way to cope

@josephjoestar1738

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if the first arc with them escaped really happened but most of the kids got slaughtered by wild demons and we see emas warped thoughts as she is being detained by the demons as one of the only survivors and the last chapter was just us seeing what really happened

@RC.-

3 жыл бұрын

That’s way better than a forced unrealistic happy ending

@dimini4267

3 жыл бұрын

I was lowkey hoping the ending would be that Emma becomes a mother and the part where all the kids escaped and create a utopia were part of her imagination

naruto's talk no jutsu: who are you? emma's talk no jutsu: i'm you, but stronger.

@slevv.2exe811

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha no *joke*

@kingaskeladd5052

3 жыл бұрын

compare that to Armin's talk no jutsu lol

@youwhat.

2 жыл бұрын

Mikasa: talk? Ha! Weak! All I did was exist and my universe's god did what I wanted!

@EldishRinger

2 жыл бұрын

@@youwhat. I don't think Mikasa wanted to kill Eren.

@shini7511

2 жыл бұрын

Another garbage friendship anime 😫🤮

You really moved me from not thinking about the series I watched 2 years ago and liked to being really excited to being really sad and disappointed, really good video!

I feel like the author was sick of his own story by the end of it. Without spoilers, Emma’s “sacrifice” at the end was a right joke, especially since it became utterly irrelevant not even two full chapters later

"And I'm so obsessed with FMA that I want it to "F" my "A" " how... in 18 years have I not heard any variant of this joke before?

@nasphere_drew

3 жыл бұрын

HAHA FR THO

@carmyne00

3 жыл бұрын

pls that caught me off guard-- xd

@lura8040

3 жыл бұрын

because most FMA had only one joke, and they tunnel visioned that joke they are evolving

@unlikejay0

3 жыл бұрын

Exactlyyy

@Luv4Jay1

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Even with the manga having wasted potential the anime is definitely not helping

@incalculas9394

3 жыл бұрын

instead of trying to fix the final arc, they brought the entire series to the level of shit that the final arc was

@H_i_m_o_t_h_y

3 жыл бұрын

@@incalculas9394 fr

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

Well the author was rushed even though the series was selling very well. That was the main problem. Even the author mentioned in a interview that he planned the first arc for 6 years. Literally top 10 best selling series from 2016-2020 even won awards before the anime. And to add even the one piece and my hero authors praised it. And 25 millions copies sold worldwide up to now and got nominated for an award against demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen for 2021

@H_i_m_o_t_h_y

3 жыл бұрын

@@lalaland9838 well the point is that they decided to go anime original for season 2 since the manga ending received backlash but the anime has done nothing but make it worse

@lalaland9838

3 жыл бұрын

kazuo kaneki I don’t know why y’all keep saying that lol. It wasn’t even that. It was the director original idea which they went with it. He mentioned in the interview that both are two media’s that can be enjoyed. Y everybody so he wanted to go anime original during season 2.

The promise never landed.

They need to do this over again from the end of season 1.

When Emma asked Norman to not commit genocide, it was almost like if Mikasa asked Eren to not do the rumbling and he just said "Ok" edit: ....this is the most likes i have ever gotten wtfff edit2: people just can't take a joke.

@Suited_Nat

3 жыл бұрын

Ya- thank god aot didn’t pull that load of crap

@gabbyn.3049

3 жыл бұрын

@@Suited_Nat Umi da

@Brandon-cs8gw

3 жыл бұрын

Mikasa can be very... I mean at least Annie took jabs at Eren, Mikasa just sat back & wasted time not making a move, until the last min only to be cockblocked by more Titans~

@ember-evergarden

3 жыл бұрын

@@Brandon-cs8gw Mikasa is fucking trash tier lmao

@Ergeniz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ember-evergarden But why bro?

My favorite part of Isabella asking Emma if she wants to be a mother is where her hand is. Mom is always checking their left ear to make sure the tracker is intact, but in that scene she holds her right ear not out of caution but out of love. Mom believes Emma no longer wants to escape, so Mom isn’t worried about the tracker she is only worried about Emma’s well-being. She wants what she believes is best for her daughter. She wants her to take the only path known for her to live longer. So there is this sense of joy in Mom when she sees them escape. They are living in a new world thought to be unreachable, and that small little bit I believe is why Isabella was able to keep going, why she was able to become the next Grandma, she had hope again. She didn’t want to survive, she wanted to live.

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

If you want an extended version of TPN first arc then maybe you should try and read Shadows House. You might find it even better than TPN in terms of story, plot and the consistency of the horror/mystery aspec of the series...

@bombaybombay2793

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 Jeeeeeeeez you've been saying that in a bunch of comments whyyyy

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@bombaybombay2793 Cuz I can

@bombaybombay2793

3 жыл бұрын

@@batmeme9349 Fiiiine but can I ask you about the manga/anime in question. I saw a trailer on funimation and it was the same thing, and it peeked my interest. Can you tell me what's it about

@batmeme9349

3 жыл бұрын

@@bombaybombay2793 If you haven't read the manga yet then watch the anime, or maybe read the manga first since the anime did change a major part from the manga. The manga is also in full color. If you want to know more about the serirs then read my first reply, the rest is up to you to find out.

I’m one of the few who pretty much loved it from beginning to end. I was hooked all the way through. I just hate that the anime got the treatment it did. Season 2 was a travesty after season 1 was so incredible I don’t know what happened behind the scenes.

@batmeme9349

2 жыл бұрын

You should try and read Shadow house next. It has the same aspect as tpn but the overall story and plot is way different.

@Metal_Dragon_

2 жыл бұрын

Same

I wonder if it would be better if the story just full on embraced the “war phase”. As in, I feel like this is a direction the authors wanted to go into, but couldn’t full on commit into it. What I mean is, things quickly turning more chaotic, and carefully crafted plans and mind games stops working. Emma snaps after seeing so many friends getting killed, and became an insurgency gang leader, committing terrorism acts against demon civilians and humans that wants to kill those “food” humans. And maybe switch it around a bit, have Ray or Norman be the “Rationally we should probably stop doing this, because now both Demon and Human societies are onto us, because we are the evil forces that broke the fragile peace they had. We need to think of a plan for an endgame, a way so the remaining ones of us food children can still live a life after the war”. Whereas Emma becomes more focused on emotional anger. Then Emma can maybe have a redemption arc? After killing too many Demons and Humans, she starts to realize maybe that the remaining alive people are more important than her long dead family that she’s always fighting for? Anyway, I feel like the story was trying to go somewhat into this direction. A less “mind games” and more “war is chaos” type of direction. But the writers just couldn’t fully commit into this direction.

I think what I found most tragic about the Promised Neverland was that the children were absolute geniuses, but they were still just children. They came up with small-scale traps, childish plans, unrealistic hopes, and thought just like a child would. They were geniuses, but they weren't ready for the weight that fell on them. Every carefully thought out plan, lie, or action was easily read by the adults, which made this situation so heartwrenching. The children wanted to survive, to grow up, to protect their family but they were still not enough to stop the adults.

@dragonbricks7086

2 жыл бұрын

True, but the main problem with this story was it did not have a good answer when one of the characters actually grew up and came up with actionable plans to fix the problem. ie. Norman. Norman's plan was good enough to stop the adults + monsters and their future threats. All the writer could come up with to change his mind was "because Emma said so".

@norbum6283

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. One of my favourite panels is the one where Emma is imagining herself on the wall, with little cardboard people and houses on the other side. It perfectly portrays how she understands the concept she has to escape but is still childish about it.

@adararelgnel2695

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonbricks7086 thats the power that women hold over men

@Yuki-qs5mt

Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you 🙏

@goodbye6676

Жыл бұрын

​@@musicnightmare wars were started over women, fights are started over women, fights are started because of women

One of my biggest problems is Ray. I loved his character in the first arc, he was so interesting and caught my interest real good, He’s Isabells son after all! And then… he was just there, just there chillin and then his mother died and he got done dirty, I mean Isabell was everyone’s mother but Ray… She birthed him and he didn’t get that much attention. Rip Ray, first arc Ray will be forever remembered

@dirtydirtsgt4751

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot he even exists after escaping grace field

@bighex5340

2 жыл бұрын

So many panels of people talking with Ray in the corner, just chilling, looking so cool... but doing absolutely nothing significant 😭

@taiganb3463

2 жыл бұрын

oof ikr like now he just chillin in the 2nd arc-

@something3920

2 жыл бұрын

it hur me so much to know that ray got no closure. he didnt even get the love isabella gave all the other kids cuz he was her spy and therefore he knew it was all an act. it just hurts that he didnt get to say goodbye to his mom.

@acherthecat8316

2 жыл бұрын

he was such an interesting character on the first few arcs, but then he just become an enabler to whatever emma wants

Honestly I wish the childrens' ideals didn't align with each other so much. Like maybe Emma thinks demons shouldn't be killed but some of the children thinks demons should be eradicated and that would be an amazing challenge for Emma's ideals. Maybe eventually they disagree so much that they leave her and go to Norman's side. Because the children almost never disagree with her and just follow her. Also, adding on the part of Yugo and the others dying and Louis killing those kids, seeing people getting killed in front of you should be traumatic. She gets like one moment where she is sad, but she moves on in like a day. I thought the author was going to expand the strong emotions Emma feels about the kids' deaths but no.

You know...I was fully ready to watch this video and think ¨Oh this dudes just hating on the manga¨ cuz I thought the manga was great from what I remember of it.(I read all of it about a year ago) But...while watching the video I realized that you were making some pretty good points. Then it was facts. Then i just fully realized ¨that tpn really wasn´t all that good¨ Like yah it had its moments especially in the beginning but in the end it really was just another ¨oh i want things to go this way" and everybody just agrees and even through all the hard challenges it all just plays out in the end for the mc because well nobody's opinion really matters besides the mc and everything that they do will always be right.But I feel like if they were to come out for some weird reason more of the manga I would definitely read it no doubt. Also the way you presented the video for example the nearness and breaking down and going through all the arcs was just perfect and how you actually reread the whole thing and the way you worded everything perfectly without it being confusing or getting off track was really nice. And the calmness of your voice really added to the video honestly you really changed my whole perspective on the tpn manga and now I´m thinking about re-reading the whole series. I feel like you would be a perfect narrator for a show or something. Also the way you so formally presented the video and your thoughts about everything that went on in the manga made me want to write my comment more formal although I´m not sure as to why.

@TheSoulCalledZuzia

8 ай бұрын

I don't think attitude "I see someone criticising (not even hating, there's no hate speech on either thumbnail or the title) something I like, they must be hating on it" is good.