How The MS-13 Gang Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider
Alex Sanchez is a former high-ranking member of MS-13. He became involved in the gang in the 1980s in Los Angeles and participated in its expansion.
Sanchez was deported to El Salvador in 1994 along with 4,000 other Salvadorans. There, he began to recruit young members into the gang. He was involved in robberies, street fights, and carjackings, and he survived being shot four times. Sanchez decided to leave MS-13 in the mid-1990s. He is now the executive director of Homies Unidos and is a violence-prevention worker and expert on gang culture.
He speaks with Business Insider about the Los Angeles Police Department, tattooing, rules and codes, media perception, and the political language used to depict the gang, such as Donald Trump's comments in 2018. Sanchez's story is profiled in the books "MS-13: The Making of America's Most Notorious Gang" and "Unforgetting: A Memoir of Family, Migration, Gangs, and Revolution in the Americas."
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00:00 - Intro
00:23 - The Initiation
01:48 - The Weapons
03:19 - The Tattoos
04:19 - The Rivals
05:58 - The Rules
07:25 - The Culture
08:46 - Return to El Salvador
10:20 - Death Threats
12:55 - The Hierarchy
13:54 - Megajails
16:17 - The Expansion
17:33 - LAPD
20:18 - The Future of MS-13
21:54 - The Aftermath
24:19 - Credits
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The fact that I was watching your videos the other day and I said to myself “I wish they could interview someone from MS-13” and boom you uploaded one today 🤯
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
I kinda hope they do an MS-13 interview from a an anti-gang taskforce. This guy has something deeply wrong with him.
@smakdon9866
Ай бұрын
Frequency illusion.. aka Baader-Meinhof phenomenon...
@amh9494
Ай бұрын
@@smakdon9866 nar, he's the chosen one.
@Insider
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tobysemler
25 күн бұрын
@@amh9494 Mind=BLOWN!
i liked how they censored the eyes thinking nobody would recognize the full tattooed face
@bigboi1004
Ай бұрын
Nah that could be anyone's 7-Eleven tattoo (3:57)
@popbigdaddy9422
Ай бұрын
It’s for legal reasons
@lordbeerus5722
Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@localmilfchaser6938
Ай бұрын
@@bigboi1004😂😂😂
@mrsenpaihd7485
Ай бұрын
That wasn't a censorship though. It was literally a huge block of tattoo. Open eyes plis
I got involved pretty heavy with MS Paint
@efrainsanchez6788
Ай бұрын
Damn. I already know you’re dangerous. 😮
@10secondsrule
Ай бұрын
It almost killed me.
@ahmedp8009
Ай бұрын
lol well played (or painted in this case)!
@DeezyP
Ай бұрын
Haha this made me laugh much harder than it should have 😂 🤣
@azynkron
Ай бұрын
Once you get hooked by those pixels, man.. It's difficult to get out.
Dude has such a friendly voice and demeanor for someone with such a hardened past
@rahsunallah2825
Ай бұрын
My parole officer says the same about me.
@tracyminajjjj
Ай бұрын
These are the men you should fear the most 💯
@ashvio
Ай бұрын
Goes to show most gang members are just regular people who are put in bad environments
@michaelchallis4129
Ай бұрын
Were you expecting him to be stabbing the video director?
@Shawnmell
Ай бұрын
@@michaelchallis4129 dude has such a irrational hostility and anger for someone with such a desire to reply to a random friendly comment
Spinoff series about the real danger they can face simply for doing these videos
@FacitOmniaVoluntas.
Ай бұрын
You gotta be the dullest knife in the drawer to think they’re talking about anything that could get them in trouble. Everything they’re saying is already public knowledge.
@SEAZNDragon
Ай бұрын
Michael Franzese is an ex-mobster who talks a lot about mob culture on KZread. I saw a comment on one of his videos wondering how he’s able to talk so much and not get killed. Someone replied that a lot of the people Michael talked about were either killed or serving life sentences. The current mob is also not as strong as it used to be and it’s unlikely any of its current members know him personally. It also helps while Michael names drops he never says who does what crime. In a way it’s the same for these Insider crime videos. Most of the people who come on left their gang long ago and talk structure but don’t name names.
@user-vy3tt8eb6t
Ай бұрын
@@FacitOmniaVoluntas.Ttty
@capellozapellini6074
Ай бұрын
Most of this info can be found elsewhere + most of them already fear for their lives if they left that life
@garyhost354
Ай бұрын
He still in the game. Gangs have pr wings now
El Salvador's murder rate when Bukele took over was 50.5, it's now 1.5 per 100k. It's working.
@trhtkify
Ай бұрын
W bukele , L ms13 and this bozo in the video, should have gotten locked up for life for attempted murder
@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf
Ай бұрын
These geniuses tattooed their gang affiliation to their face, pretty easy to catch them all.
@milosummers2779
Ай бұрын
it’s working but it’s also imprisoning a lot of innocent people without trial, and as long as you miss one or two gang members then the gang can keep recruiting. it’s not sustainable and it’s a human rights violation. stop praising it
@ImCaveJohnson
Ай бұрын
Bukele is a hero!
@memeteam2016
Ай бұрын
These people always cry about govt cracking down on their crimes because all their friends who are still criminals are gonna get caught up in it lol
MS13 is a notoriously brutal gang. I'm curious about how they feel (and the other gangs mentioned in this series) regarding an old member coming on and talking about the gang in such close detail. If it were me I wouldn't take my chances, but this man is clearly confident enough to appear on a popular show.
@user-bm6xz6pq5z
Ай бұрын
When you've seen as much stuff as that man you aren't afraid of violence. My neighborhood gets shootings weekly but kids aren't afraid to go play outside.
@_Verde
Ай бұрын
I think the vast majority of these people that come on here talk about things that aren't necessarily already known, but is public knowledge to anyone who's already interested in studying organized crime.
@teresafan1
Ай бұрын
@@_Verdethats what I was thinking too! I related it to true crime you tubers, all of the information in their videos is just based on whatever research and googling they have done. So no one can come after them for talking about anything because its public knowledge for anyone who cares to find it.
@admiralron3682
Ай бұрын
Probably helps when you've been out of the gang for over thirty years lol
@elcomandante901
Ай бұрын
It’s frowned upon. I assure you .
It's crazy. Growing up around the Koreatown and Pico-Union area, you see the gang members walking around or hanging around the neighborhood. It will be quiet at times but they always pop up again. Seeing these young kids trying to be the next generation, it's just sad
@darthandeddeu
Ай бұрын
Happens in all cuturalist gangs. ( Mafia , bikers, street gangs, etc )
@whathell6t
Ай бұрын
The irony is that the presence of those gangs can contain the homeless transient and vagrants, especially the ones with severe mental-illness.
@beccaf262
Ай бұрын
Happens with the gangs here in NZ too.
@rodtack8420
Ай бұрын
Honestly I believe their name which has 13 in it stands for the 13 satanic blood lines that secretly rule the world and control the illuminati. The lower levels might not know it, but their leadership takes orders from the intelligence agencies that run the drug trade. And those agencies themselves are enforcers of the deep state which is ran by said illuminati and 13 satanic blood lines. These blood lines are known as Satanic because they are human/alien hybrids with Reptilian blood in them. Also called the blood of the gods. Which is why they believe they have the divine right to rule due to blood. The Reptillian's themselves are negative and evil malicious beings, historically known as Demons. Alex J@nes talks about all of this among others.
@amh9494
Ай бұрын
@@darthandeddeu some more than others. 😏
8:35 I will never get over the hilarious irony of gang members committing the awful crimes they do while at the same time being covered in religious regalia.
@laincake
Ай бұрын
exactly!!
@leithcrowther6086
Ай бұрын
What’s ironic about that?
@penguin350
Ай бұрын
Same as the religious rapists at the Vatican I guess
@dannydanumba2619
18 күн бұрын
@@leithcrowther6086they commit violent crimes and every sin in the book but still think they can call themselves “Christians”
@spanishcastle7
9 күн бұрын
Hitler slaughtered more than 6 million Jews under the guise of religion. Is that funny to you?
The murder rate in El Salvador has plummeted since mass incarceration, but it will be interesting to see how that unfolds.
@Zzyzzyzzs
Ай бұрын
Obviously it'll drop massively in the short term when you round up everyone currently involved and remove them, but if you then do nothing to solve the _reasons_ why people find joining gangs appealing (a way out of poverty, protecting themselves from crime and corrupt cops/politicians, the threats from drug cartels where you either join or they kill you) then nothing is going to stop new recruitment from happening and rates rising again. I'm not saying Bukele/El Salvador _isn't_ doing that; honestly El Salvador isn't a country I or many people think about very much. But the reason it isn't working in the USA is precisely because of the above. You have a culture that scapegoats immigrants, constantly tells Americans they're all criminals and inferior beings and mismanages the economy, giving people fewer pathways to a legitimate presence, then lock them up when they turn to crime and leave it to NGOs and underfunded departments to handle their rehabilitation, if any (easier to just deport them or have them rot in prison forever). At no point is the humanity of the person trapped in that cycle recognised, and the same is arguably true of mass incarceration anywhere. The tack currently is to just remove people from society, with no thought given to whether or not they might change or what situations landed them there in the first place. The US is the biggest economy in the region; the equivalent wealth of a single Elon Musk or even a Donald Trump could wipe out all the reasons the Americas are ensnared in gang crime and poverty overnight. But such solutions are harder to implement so few people are willing to do them and see them through. So yeah, lock them up if the immediate priority is to reduce the murder rate and restore some safety, but if you don't do anything long-term it'll be pointless.
@amh9494
Ай бұрын
Definitely shows bleeding heart bull doesn't work as well as harsh justice, they have a chance to break the cycle now.
@christinet6336
Ай бұрын
Yes… that’s the key. Eventually, someone else is going to get into office and it’s quite possible that they can be bribed by the cartels to go a different route. It’s going to be very interesting to see how the unfolds, indeed.
@samuelmorgan6987
Ай бұрын
@@amh9494 putting people in jail doesnt make them cease to exist. you think they're just gonna go away? you think they'll never get out? guards will never be able to be bribed or threatened? use your brain
@MrNommerz
Ай бұрын
@@amh9494 Thing is they have to come up with productive solutions afterwards or more people will fall into the same gang cycle anyways, or even more likely IMO is the police will become the new gangs and the government will slide into a dictatorial police state and then who knows what problems will come up after that. Still, I hope the best for them and that they are able to parry their current situation into lasting prosperity.
Just came back from El Salvador, its pretty safe than before. Was able to actually go to lake ilopango and los chorros de la calera, which was always a no-go zone. I would have been killed if the maras "gangs" were still there. So mass incarceration has worked. The stories I hear that the gangs did, they totally deserve life in prison. the country is poor, but on the up and up, and tourism is better than ever.
@jepulis6674
Ай бұрын
Better yes but I hate fools thinking its perfect. That kind of power leads into all opposition getting locked up and killed in prison. Only a transition phase and acceptable but at that region its another loony dictator doing the same the gangs did. Give it 5 years.
@handsomejerk
Ай бұрын
Ahhhhh. Mass sweeps of people held without due process is good? You want your government to hold you without trial? You want a life sentence because your cousin is in a gang? I guess human rights aren’t your thing then.
@willpatterson7125
Ай бұрын
It's so funny they tried to say that mass incarceration doesn't work when El Salvador went from having the highest murder rate in the western hemisphere to now the second lowest (only canada has a lower rate.) The evidence is right in front of us.
@Anthony-dk7de
Ай бұрын
🎉
@kameronjones7139
Ай бұрын
Short-term yes but if the other problems aren't fixed then it will happen again
14:47 Bro what? How are you gonna say that? El Salvadors murder rate has dropped ASTOUDINGLY since mass incarcerating gang members
@trhtkify
Ай бұрын
this dude is a bozo that got lucky they let him out of jail, should have been there for life for attempted murder, bukele should lock him up too
@charliee5970
Ай бұрын
@@trhtkify For real, dude is an idiot.
@user-fh4nw6ct9y
Ай бұрын
This is what gaslighting the public looks like.
@CalaTec
Ай бұрын
I won't put bad intention on his words, but he speaks as a person who lives in the USA and not in el Salvador. You have to ask people living there and how their lives have changed.
@revlo1557
Ай бұрын
Spot on!
I disagree with some of the statements; El Salvador has never seen this dramatic, possitive turn ever.
@kogn5338
16 күн бұрын
it was definitely necessary and a good first step but i think hes right in asking about the exit strategy. they need to pivot towards building the economy and solving the problems that cuased the gangs in the first place. otherwise it is just a never ending cycle. obviously that generation of criminals is not going to be saved but they need to think abt the future, rehibilitation and a transition out of the police state.
@dominionphilosophy3698
12 күн бұрын
@@kogn5338of course, but he is part of the trouble if he thinks Bukele’s steps are not good.
As a Salvadoran I really appreciate this video. I've visited once back in 2008 and I can't wait to visit again. Peace and love cuz.
@alyssa01825
Ай бұрын
my family and i just visited last week. the country felt extremely safe and bukele has done so much good to the country. i’m salvadorean too it was so nice to go back and feel safe😊 i recommend you to visit
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
@@alyssa01825 I used to bully kids like u after school who cares what u think
@Insider
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
MS 13 was born in California and came to El Salvador, not the other way around. Important fact!!!!
Wow… that was really good and informative. Thank you.
As at least one other guy mentioned, MS13 has a heavy presence in Northern VA and they're notorious for trafficking and violence right off the 95 corridor
Thank you for this interview and for others like it. We need to learn from each other and work together to overcome these global challenges or things will continue to get harder, esp for the folks without tons of money and power. Wishing this guy and his family the best. To have gone through such things and make it through, fighting now to do good, that's amazing. For myself, i used to fight for good but I've gotten tired and lazy. If we all combine what stengths we have, we can, with those numbers, change things for the better.
My friend's brother was m-rdered by MS for not joining and he told me one of the problems is that when immigrants come here most stay in the same community they left but just here in the US. They think it makes things easier, but it also makes it easy for MS to keep the stranglehold they have on the community. They can get to you here or back where they came from so an immigrant may leave a bad situation and end up in another bad situation where those immigrant children face the terrible, and very real, choice of being a victim or joining MS. Like my friend's brother did in Hempstead, Long Island NY. I don't have a solution but one thing you can do is let immigrants know that it may seem easy for them to live in an immigrant neighborhood but they might be safer in a more integrated one and explain why. Especially for the safety and future of their children. This is not some far away place, this is here and we need to deal with it and stop making these gangs stronger.
@Princess-im3wm
Ай бұрын
There are material reasons why people join gangs. IMO if you want to stop gang violence, address those reasons (money, lack of family, lack of sense of belonging, etc) first
@neal.karn-jones
Ай бұрын
That's true but I am specifically talking about MS-13 and how it gets new members by giving immigrant children the choice to join or die. Lack of money, family, or belonging are minor compared to the choice of being murdered or joining.@@Princess-im3wm
@rodtack8420
Ай бұрын
@@Princess-im3wm There in lies the problem. Those that run the west WANT poverty so that the people that grow up in poverty are poor and controllable. It is all by design from the top down by the elites that run the west. These groups profit off of the suffering of the people who they see as nothing more then slaves or a resource. Problem - Reaction - Solution. The biggest irony is those that joins these gangs are serving the very people who are responsible for their misfortune to begin with and don't know it. Not much different then how Intelligence run state funded terrorist groups work and are used by the same ruling class. It is the same dynamic.
@leok7193
Ай бұрын
I'm a 1st gen immigrant. There are lots of reasons people stay in their cultural communities: 1: language - moving to a new country a lot of people don't speak English enough to just go about daily lives. Whether it's shopping, making friends, looking for work, entertainment, food - language can be a huge barrier 2: cost of living - most people coming to the US, don't have lucrative work opportunities or large savings. Immigrant communities are often cheaper to live in, because they're usually less desirable and affluent 3: community/culture - people with shared experiences and views just get along better. Whether it's common hobbies, ethnic cuisine, religion, etc - it is the things that we miss or still want in our lives that are often not available in a different area 4: family - most people coming here already have some family connection and want to be here for that reason, and for above reasons family is usually already living in an immigrant community. I'm sure there are more, but those are the biggest that come to mind. Sadly, that also means that whatever people experienced in their home country, often comes with them to the new, whether it's emphasis on education or violence or corruption...
@neal.karn-jones
Ай бұрын
I understand all the good reasons to stay in an immigrant community. I'm just pointing out a danger - losing your child to MS-13. If that's not a good reason to avoid it I don't know what is - and the danger is extremely real if you have a child about to be a teen or in their teens.@@leok7193
These episodes have been spectacular ❤
but you’re wrong brother El Salvador is safer now and California is a lot more dangerous now that they’re closing prison down.. and I live in LA and I spent half my life in prison and was a gang member so you can’t tell me I don’t know you have to have a gun in your home for home invasions and you cannot let your wife walk alone or your kids.. with Bukele as president I will take a vacation in El Salvador right now before that, I would never go over there
I think this dude still fosters some deep down loyalty for his gang. He should not be saying they don't rape and kill because they do.
@efrainsanchez6788
Ай бұрын
Likely for his own safety. You think gang members won’t see this video?
@3asianassassin
Ай бұрын
they arent seeing this video, theyre in prisons and wont ever see the sun again if theres any justice in this world
@cruisinguy6024
Ай бұрын
I’ve heard that the gang was originally a lot different from what it is now in terms of brutality.
@AshBuddha
Ай бұрын
Probably also some cognitive dissonance. We know what they do, I’m sure he does as well.
@user-fh4nw6ct9y
Ай бұрын
Psyop
I use to work with a guy who was part of ms13 OG but the things like this guy said and the OG told me damnnn…..
Nosotros los latinos de verdad apoyamos kas políticas de el presidente salvadoreño. Soy nicaragüense y tengo muchos amigos salvadoreños. Ellos si apoyan a su presidente
This guy is essentially doing PR work for MS-13 lol
@SoulSonder26
Ай бұрын
"What I'm doing now is trying to give back to the community that I used to take." No, dude, he's not. You just can only see him that way.
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
@@SoulSonder26He's giving back to the community by trying to get gang members out of the successful prison policy. He's also willing to lie and paint MS-13 in a positive light so dumb sheltered kids think they are not that bad. He doesn't care about the community, he cares about MS13.
@SpartanArmy117
Ай бұрын
Yeah I hate to say it but he pretty much is. Basically he's saying you just lack context, that's why you don't like MS 13 lol. Also I'm sure he's being "targeted" because he has a tiny insignificant activist group and not because he's involved in some shady stuff.
@jukeburtis7503
Ай бұрын
@@SpartanArmy117isn’t context for gangs and criminals the point Of these videos? I mean he’s not “doing PR” in the sense the previous commenter said. It sounds like he’s just telling his story so people can understand it.
@MasteredMagic
Ай бұрын
I agree. I stopped listening when he said that the gang was “vulnerable “… you know who is vulnerable? The women and children the gang exploits. MS isn’t a Boy Scout troop. They aren’t just innocent do-gooder immigrants… the people on these gangs chose a lifestyle like this. Even if you can’t live by their motto, because you can’t r4p3 people, doesn’t mean the rest of their goals aren’t involved in the motto. I’m glad that dude is exposing police corruption, but to pretend like MS isn’t a group of criminals, who harm and exploit others, is just plain wrong.
Wow... fascinating. You are a good man!
In '89 on Pico and Alvarado, I personally witnessed a MS gang member walking around with a machete like nothing in broad daylight. An armed security in one of the restaurants was scared of him. On another note, I learned about the death squad during my studies in college. The CJ department had a special speaker come talk to us about it. It was very interesting!
The statistics aren’t on his side regarding crime rates not going down. El Salvador has the 2nd lowest murder rate in the Americas. Only Canada has a lower rate.
[Enlightening & insightful.]
Learned a lot!
I❤this channel, every video is a history lesson on what really goes on in other places in the world
Mass incarceration can’t help anything 😂 why didn’t he talk about how El Salvador’s murder rate is down by 70 percent
@AcesAndNates
Ай бұрын
Because rational people think on orders of time longer than a year or two. Sort of helps with planning the provisioning of a state.
@iippo06
Ай бұрын
@@AcesAndNates Try decade or two like Singapore.
@shayneb3540
Ай бұрын
You didn’t listen to anything he said.
@Philthy.mcguyver310
Ай бұрын
@@shayneb3540 what didn’t I listen to
@iippo06
Ай бұрын
@@shayneb3540 If letting criminals, drug addicts & mentally ill people roam the streets of major Western cities for the past 60 years was a rational long term plan, then I'd hate to see what irrational short term planning looks like.
I’ll be honest MS-13 and other El Salvador gangs cause me great anxiety and fear while I was deployed in El Salvador. I wasn’t able too really enjoy what I thought was a beautiful country filled with great people.
I always pray for these people's safety when these videos get uploaded.
this guy speaks with years of wisdom... I hope that he achieves his goals...
@lv1543
Ай бұрын
This guy is a con and wants his cockroaches on the street again
Very interesting. Alex is well spoken and covered a lot here. . Great interview. Wish him all the success in the world and longevity. Here's a man actually trying to make a difference in the community. Much respect to Alex.
@Atite_Lometen
Ай бұрын
Are you joking cause this guy is true a psychopath, they created programs that creates alibi for them like the 14 yr old boy, this guys still works for the gang through his NGO homies unidos, is exacly what they used to do in El Salvador, you got church pastors being arrested cause they were still doing gang business while travelling as a pastors and they would created this NGO to put ex homies in them and make them look like they were legit. That is why is so important to put this animals in prison excommunicated from the outside world.
He’s very well spoken but he is definitely biased in favor of the gang and everything bukele is doing to gain control of El Salvador
Lol unjustly he says... ask the population. There is a reason why bukele is VERY popular.
@Woodsie_Lord
Ай бұрын
Try saying something against him while living there, lol. Good luck dealing with another South American tyrannical government. You can't get rid of them as easily as gangs.
@Kevin-mk6jo
Ай бұрын
@Woodsie_Lord hmmmm if u don't live here... and experience the before.... your opinion means, zero. Concentrate in your own issues in your own country.
@Woodsie_Lord
Ай бұрын
@@Kevin-mk6joIt's a fact that government is always your number 1 enemy. You signed your rights off the moment you tolerate their dismissal. Learn some history instead of liking your own replies with no arguments whatsoever. Your situation is not unique. Personal experience is not necessary to form arguments and conclusions based on facts. Besides, guess what is the most common issue globally, people face every day? Corrupt, tyrannical etc. governments are always source of the issues. It's happening everywhere around you, yet you decide to ignore it and hope that this one man is special and always will be just, honorable etc.
Respect sir I changed my life going through the same thing
Proud and commend you for sharing your life
Buddy's delusional. He casually brushes over violence he participated in across multiple countries and with multiple convictions, but when people try to restore some semblance of civil society, whether in El Salvador or the US, he's the one being persecuted....
@Charles-Darwin
Ай бұрын
What's wild is you thinking you've figured it out, but what you should have experienced was a reality check. If you give it some thought, soldiers, police, trump have all done the same activities and seem to be able to present themselves on camera.
@AG-yc7vt
Ай бұрын
Exactly “It doesn’t work, it doesn’t work” But if you go to El Salvador Right now, everyone is happy and safe. No more organized crime, just regular crime like in most 1st world countries.
@user-rl1px9sp4f
Ай бұрын
. There's more to it than just saying everyone is happy if you don't follow current events don't try to paint everyone under the same circumstances and situations becuase they're are definitely citizens who are struggling to prosper. Yes the gang and safety aspect of it is maintained better than before but that it is not the only problem there.
@user-rl1px9sp4f
Ай бұрын
@@AG-yc7vt Plus you do realize that just becuase it's working now at the moment doesn't mean that there cant be a side effect to this rigth? I also think that what he meant was that mass incarceration doesn't help in the sense that you are just locking people up at some point people have to be let out thus is what you may be witnessing today in the U.S. with a rise in crime what are you going to do baby sit criminals for ever ? You realize that the people who benefit from all this are the prison industrial complex don't you ? But yet people love to complain about there taxes how funny. So that's why he saids mass incarceration isn't the answer. I find it funny how there's plenty of what he said but people want to focus on only that part and want to misconstrue what he said just to talk smack.
Now you gotta interview a Death Squad member
The mass incarseration in El Salvador has decreased the level of gang violence from unbearable to almost non existrant. What that person is saying is just wrong. Nevertheless he is right about a lot of prisoners being held unrightfully.
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
isn't it based on tattoos, which you have to get after being initiated?
@milominderbinder8655
Ай бұрын
@@aaabbbccc1939 This seems to be a common question which I am curious as well about. I imagine the tattoos do play a significant part either formally or informally
@WompWompWoooomp
Ай бұрын
Yeah, dude kinda lost me when he said what El Salvador was doing wasn't going to work. The decrease in crime there has been nothing short of miraculous.
@badbear11k
17 күн бұрын
It won't do any good locking up gang members when the root of social decay is corruption that breeds extreme poverty. El salvadors political class remains untouched . Nayib bukele is just doing victory laps so u sucker's can praise him .
This guy is an OG
We appreciate the insights shared in this video. They're filled with impactful lessons throughout.
great interview
The homie rebelde from Normandie Locos he old now hahaha we used kick it back then when we were kids right when MS was getting started at first we were called " Mara Stoners or Mara salvatrucha Stoners , MSS" then it became MSL Mara Salvatrucha Locos then when we got the 13 it became just MS Mara salvatrucha " i havent seen homeboy since the 90s. Rebelde if you ever read this Saludos homie im glad you are doing good.
@mauroortega4633
Ай бұрын
Good looking for the homie saludes HLS
Damn this guy seems like if he was raised under better circumstances..his intelligence and ability to communicate would be so much more well served and beneficial to society..I'm glad he is no longer on that destructive path
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
He is blatantly a psychopath.
@DDMSakb48
Ай бұрын
People he killed never got a second chance. lol
@chinoecinos2963
Ай бұрын
@DDMSakb48 would you rather he's still out killing?
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
@@aaabbbccc1939coward
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
@@DDMSakb48cope
Maybe we should think about stuff like this, ya know, like when we just let anyone into the country.
@DJV94022
Ай бұрын
Man..at this point it aint hispanics being the issue.hispanics been the issue since the 80s with the coke but the gringos are okay with it ..what the united states has problem is with middle easterns and russians..so yes the border has already slid those people by.they are just planning at this point
the exit strategy is make being in a gang look so bad and dangerous people wont join, nd its working the stats are dropping, good on the new leader of El Salvador
My mom moved us out of D.C. during the crack era and into Langley Park, Md. If you know, you know. 💯😄
"Mass incarceration is not going to *bail us out.* " 😂😂🤣🤣
@dickriggles942
Ай бұрын
Learn the hard way.
I remember in the 90s MS was causing havoc in Koreatown Their war MS vs 18st vs playboys Was spinning out of control
Can you make a series like this but on cults?
This is an amazing interview
Love this video but i gotta disagree but El Salvador was on its knees and him saying they arrested people unjustly is the gang member talking in him. At least thats what i think
@user-fh4nw6ct9y
Ай бұрын
This is how they control the narrative. you’re sensing something ain’t right here. But they are telling you to ignore your lying eyes.
@user-fh4nw6ct9y
Ай бұрын
They deleted my response to you bro. I said this is a paid actor and this is how they set the narrative they want, attempting to change your reality. Don’t let them, this is gaslighting.
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
@@user-fh4nw6ct9ystay mad dork
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
U cowards are always begging for the government to save you
MS-13 has a ridiculously high presence in VA & MD. Hearing these origin stories makes it even more crazy
I grew up in Pico / Union area in LA getting harrased by CRASH UNIT from Rampart division all the time... I know first hand how Crime works in that area!
My man, how can you sit there and say incarcerating these gang members in El Salvador hasn’t reduced violence? Look at the murder rate, it dropped significantly. Salvadorians were hostages in their own country.
@Brainbaskit
Ай бұрын
Yeah, except they traded violence from MS to violence from government sanctioned death squads or cops just murdering people in cold blood, not to mention torture, and if your neighbor doesn't like you, they drop a dime saying you are affiliated with the game, just like that you are whisked away for prison for life, no judge, jury or lawyer. You think this will last 😆 Here we go civil war again, or at least a coup, because as he astutely stated, the conditions that led to all this are not being addressed
@jirehguy
Ай бұрын
You completely twisted what he said
@elkikex
Ай бұрын
14:45 He said just that
@johncenanewaccount4297
Ай бұрын
@@jirehguy He said the incarceration wouldn't work and that it hasn't worked in the past. It is working.
@jirehguy
Ай бұрын
@@elkikex except you are hearing it how you want to hear it instead of listening to what he is saying. You heard him say a key word that triggered a response in your brain without anything other than a surface level understanding. Idk if you think standard arresting and mass incarceration are one in the same. Or if you just heard a key word and your brain stopped listening to everything else.
bless the El Salvador president for dealing with these guys.
Thanks for sharing your story. Keep on keeping on homeboy 💯. FTP
Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾
Not the right person to give any type of answers, you should interview a guy before making a video and posting it on a big channel, his response to the CECOT is a complete bullocks and clearly shows affiliation with a gang that is a terrorist organisation- essentially you @Insider have become a handler for a gang affiliated person of a terrorist organisation.
Imagine fighting and killing one another for absolutely nothing. Sad and pathetic.
@christhalowk3717
Ай бұрын
Well of course everyone has a different outlook on that life, especially if you never were around that environment or structure of life
@TheThedisliker
Ай бұрын
People with nothing to loose are the most dangerous
@scrappydoo4204
Ай бұрын
You have to live it to understand it.
@zoanth4
Ай бұрын
Pretty much 99% of human history
@1992CaliBoy
Ай бұрын
The same was said about Vietnam and Iraq... Those veterans came back defeated and said it was a waste of blood. Gangs start on a good agenda and good cause as well and the people at the top turn it into a fight about money, isnt that the way politics in the real world works?..
My guy still about it and you can tell, you can leave it, but that pain to those you put pain to never leave your body mind and soul 🤘🏼
Very interesting.
They still around in Arlington Va also.
@1900CTCriminal
Ай бұрын
WSNC To cuh
@Philthy.mcguyver310
Ай бұрын
This guys from the ms in Los Angeles
@elliottfussell3523
Ай бұрын
A polar bear
@BigSwagThaLionTamer
Ай бұрын
They run parts of Manassas and Manassas Park about 30 minutes away
@Ucant.-fade_us
Ай бұрын
I have a friend that killed 4 ms 13 and 3 18st in the USA . And his still out here hoping to find where they hang out . They killed his cousin in El Salvador and one of his brothers . His a scicario of Mara members . His like a pestilence that creeps in the night . When I look into his eyes 👀 I see the same as looking into a the eyes of a great white shark .🦈 no soul ,but we where raise together sense we where 2 yrs old .
I was in MS-13 for a few years, it was a wonderful experience that really helped me build character, learn new skills and make some life long friends….oh wait that was the Boy Scouts not MS-13!! Silly me me 🙄
Believe it or not, this homie Alex Sanchez from Homies Unidos, came over to my house in Highland Park and sat at the couch. 😅
Bro is a certified OG
film roller is obnoxious, you have VHS fkin effect used in your video, why not use slightly subtler "vhs" sound or at least balance the levels, its louder than it should be by any means guys
@10secondsrule
Ай бұрын
It’s annoying that’s true.
We were robbed buy MS a few times in Jr. high - high school. They took our friends skate boards. He even tried to get people to try to get it back somehow. He was crying about how his grandmother gave it to him, lol... They even took his underwear a friend gave him that day. Another time, was at the Santa Monica Beach for his quarters. These people are brutal! 😢
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
Shouldn't have been such a dork
Nice video
Homie kept it all the way REAL
My taxi driver in San Salvador said that although Bukele did clean up the streets, he's essentially striving for absolute political power as a dictator, and there is total disregard for the people and human rights, innocent people are being incarcerated too
@jorgelinares9394
Ай бұрын
FAKE NEWS!!
@shadowslayer9988
Ай бұрын
Would you like the gangs to be released onto the streets again I'm sure there form of government is SO much better.
@apexhacker346
Ай бұрын
I live in El Salvador if you don't do crime. You more than likely will not go to jail. If you do not associate with criminals you will not go to jail. It's simple math. 9/10 they have the right guy. Every country has had their fair share of innocent people locked up. It is not right but they I have seen El Salvador do more right by and for their people than any country so far. You don't get over 90% of the votes by the people for no reason
@alyssa01825
Ай бұрын
he’s absolutely incorrect. people are happy, safe, and free. praise God bukele is in office. el salvador is one of the safest countries in the americas
@TONYKAZAKHNO1
Ай бұрын
yeah dont care, everyones innocent huh
Lived in Honduras most of my life, i can say MS13, Mara 18 and many more had our country in a choke hold. And r*pe, murder was their motto. Many of my neighbours lost their lives to these people. Kidnappings and so much more where common tactics.
President Buekele is the greatest thing to happen in El Salvador in a long time and how dare you criticize his policies that reduce the country’s murder rate to an all time low. He has made that country safer for everyone and was the reason I was able to visit family in El Salvador for the first time in my life. You don’t know anything about the country and I’m offended you have the gull to criticize him.
This is great how he's telling his story and sharing his side of things but now this really tells me why we really should strengthen our borders and not just have anybody come through it. Also he said that the way that the jailing system in El Salvador would not work and then compare it to the jail system over here. I would say he's wrong on that because the jail system over here was supposed to reform to get people to be model citizens and acclimate them back into society.. with that the United States has failed with that. In El Salvador, that's not the case. They just want to take them away and have them never to see or feel freedom ever again. If you terrorized so many people and have ran the country then I'm all for that.
I disagree with some stuff he says but overall its eye-opening to see it from his point of view. Especially the difference between gangs and cartels
Would love one of these from the perspective of one of the addicts that relied on gangs
This Guy:"Putting us in jail doesn't work" El Salvador:"Lowest murder rate on the continent." This Guy:"...Well, putting us in jail hurts our feelings really bad."
Pray this guy stays safe after this interview… for obvious reasons 🙏🏿
"I was on my way to shoot somebody" isn't a sentence you hear people say too much. What a remarkable story.
OK there are people who get angry about "unlawful incarcerations" but they won't even have responsibility for getting so bad that people feel the NEED to mass incarcerate and make people so afraid for their lives they pray every day someone will come in and save their neighborhoods.
Now they all in CECOT doing life.
Damn this guys from a crazy part of Los Angeles over there by Hoover and Normandie
@1992CaliBoy
Ай бұрын
That's where shatto park (shadow park 18st) is
@Philthy.mcguyver310
Ай бұрын
@@1992CaliBoy it’s not shadow park
The dad lore would be crazy
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
if he was a father he would probably just abandon his kid. He seems like a POS tbh
Seeing it form his point, it makes sense that he is against Bukele's action. However everyone knows that there's no perfect act to identify those who are really part of the MS. People choose to be affiliated with them , and they are facing the consequences. Bukele didn't had the opportunity to warn those with affiliations, before the mass incarcerations. One way to destroy the image of a powerful force, is by cleaning everything that is entangled with their history. El Salvador and its people have evolve just shortly after Bukele's actions, regardless of it internal flaws. There is a degree of injustice to the judgement given to those who were only affiliated, but it's going to take time before El Salvador's government can work on that.
@snowmonster42
Күн бұрын
Exactly, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, amirite? It's all good as long as somebody else is the broken egg. Look, I don't know all the answers, but I do know that what seems like a minor sacrifice to someone who isn't personally affected is usually a gigantic catastrophe to the person who is affected. And nobody asks them for their permission ahead of time or thanks them afterward. Do we even know that El Salvador's government is going to want work on this later? I noticed the the LAPD did not offer any comment on the corruption in the Rampart Division, which is pretty typical. Even in this country, we tend to double down on our mistakes. I think that we use the expression "a few bad apples" so indiscriminately that we have forgotten what it means. A few injustices have the same effect as a few bad apples. I don't know how it will play out, but I'm pretty sure that there will be a backlash at some point. Good luck to them - and I mean that sincerely.
I like how the the president built those mega jails and are giving a life sentence to gang members. This will eliminate gang culture and keeps the people safe. I wish we had that here in the United States.
@milominderbinder8655
Ай бұрын
We incarcerate more people per capita than any comparable western country. We have hard sentences for gang related violence and trafficking for decades. "I wish we had the here" we literally do except we still have a judicial process. The systemic issues of gang affiliation and violence will never change until we eliminate poverty. We could do this in the US but have chosen not to for 40 years while instead policy has lined the pockets of the wealthy and ultra wealthy
@thanosmaster-abel559
Ай бұрын
People would then just call racism instantly
@wowmazin4399
Ай бұрын
@@milominderbinder8655The reason we have high incarceration is because of the crime wave that started in the 1960s. We ended that crime wave by mass incarcerating criminals. Hard sentences for gang related violence and trafficking don't matter if you don't have enforcement. The systemic issue of gang affiliation and violence can be changed through mass incarceration. You lock up those who would impart genetic and sociocultural information onto the next generation so they can never reproduce. This is the same reasoning as abortion reducing crime. Also we have had programs to eliminate poverty like the Great Society which only ended up fracturing the black family structure.
@PrezVeto
Ай бұрын
@@milominderbinder8655 Leftist drivel. Poverty is the default state of man. It doesn't cause crime. People choose crime when they see a lack of negative consequence for it when those around them commit it. If "gang affiliation and violence will never change until we eliminate poverty", then explain how the gang situation in El Salvador is now much better than that in the U.S. despite it having a poverty rate WAAAY higher.
This dude is full of it..
@michaelchallis4129
Ай бұрын
Bullet holes?
Thank you for sharing your story ❤️🙏🏼
I Imagine there would’ve been fewer gangs if prohibition of drugs had never existed. People would likely have been happy getting high after work …celebrating life with one another…
This is a dangerous interview
this guy and his story is incredible. people with severe trauma sometimes have the kindest hearts
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
He is 100% a psychopath trying to fool you.
@BluemanitouParaon
Ай бұрын
@@aaabbbccc1939 cry more
Uniting Gangs All Over The World Is Powerful AF ! I Believe In Alex Sanchez ! Turn Us Into A Political Party We Not A Gang No More We Are A Political Party ! And Alex Sanchez Will Be Our President ! Vote For Alex Sanchez !
Latino version of Uncle Iroh
@JonathanBrandonBissoo
Ай бұрын
Lol🔥⚡️👨🏻🎤👴🏻
@abcdefghijfghij
Ай бұрын
"Why are you going after the Fire Nation when those soldiers in that Earth Kingdom village Zuko visited were also bad? And remember when those other soldiers were going to crush my hands with a rock? I was just trying to help my nephew, and the Earth Kingdom put a target on my back. Poor me." - something Iroh never said
@aaabbbccc1939
Ай бұрын
uncle iroh was old and wise. This guy is old and a liar.
mass incarceration failed, because you hear of stories like him, getting caught with a gun on a way to commit murder, just getting out of prison a couple years later, he should have been jailed for life or at least close to it. El salvador is jailing people that are in gangs so terrible that they deserve life purely by association
@rodtack8420
Ай бұрын
Those gangs are terrible because they are literally ran by the devil worshiping satanic families that control the west from behind the scenes. That drug money helps fund black budget secret projects and goes into the coffers of the already super rich elite at the top. Just watch Alex J@nes he talks about it.
See metal music brings everyone together
14:52 I may not agree on judge “unjustly” but I see your point at the same time I think
Uh huh, I rarely believe people like this when they say they reformed. It's just SOOO rare for someone to truly throw off their childhood learnings and who they are deep down.
@user-fh4nw6ct9y
Ай бұрын
You smell the BS too huh
@maryyjanee247
Ай бұрын
Very rarely people do change for the better
@dominionphilosophy3698
12 күн бұрын
The man is lying openly. Cannot be trusted, no remorse at all.