How The Military Would Divide During A Civil War
If the United States were to find itself in a second civil war between republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals, right-wing and left-wing, the federal military would almost certainly find itself divided between not just political factions, but also regional loyalties, as certain states in rebellion may come under heavy attack by the federal government. A 2nd American civil war would not be so clean cut, and prove very factionally messy regardless of what factions emerge.
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@Kingofportals
Жыл бұрын
Aaaaaand if you ask me how I’m feeling!
@ALMAZ157
Жыл бұрын
Arent Texans are like quarter of whole Army?
@TheRealVenom448
Жыл бұрын
Gotta make you understand
@Heisenberg4188
Жыл бұрын
@@ALMAZ157 southerners make up most of Americans warrior class and they wouldn't side with a democratic regime
@Fatherofheroesandheroines
Жыл бұрын
Never gonna give you up..never gonna let you down?
If you’ve ever served or know military, most of them would abandon the government and go home to protect their family
@ChickenMcThiccken
6 ай бұрын
basically the trump lovers would go back to fight for trump.
@brycehess6708
6 ай бұрын
and the biden lovers would go back to bang children
@Supbro14
6 ай бұрын
@@ChickenMcThicckenthis is the problem right here. What was so bad that trump did? Please tell me what he did as president that actually was so bad. I want receipts i want evidence.
@Midwestemoisme
6 ай бұрын
@@Supbro14well for one attempting to “find more votes” in georgia and constantly spreading misinformation about the election should be grounds enough to not want this person who would throw out our democracy over losing an election. Someone who also claims, would throw away the rules of the constitution as he stated over said election wouldn’t make a good president, more like a tyrant
@bigtexas517
6 ай бұрын
@@Midwestemoismethe democrats did the exact same thing in 2016 when Trump won. Trump isn’t a bad guy for doing the same thing
The idea that the government upholds the constitution is laughable
@nicholasmuro1742
Ай бұрын
Ikr.
@jimketchum3169
Ай бұрын
Yeah, this short is a twisty little piece of subliminal propaganda it seems...
@TheSignofJonah777
14 күн бұрын
@@jimketchum3169the constitution or government
@jimketchum3169
14 күн бұрын
@@TheSignofJonah777More accurately, the Constitution or the Corporation (USA, Inc.)
@jimketchum3169
14 күн бұрын
@@TheSignofJonah777The first applies to common law, the latter to maritime "law", which is really commercial/maritime/international/globalist color-of-law "rules".
Wait…honoring their oath to the Constitution doesn’t automatically imply defending the government. Moreover, that oath is explicit in rejecting unconstitutional orders given by government. The Constitution defines the COUNTRY; not the government.
@superjj1850
Жыл бұрын
The federal government IS the country dumbass. Anyone not on the side of the federal government would objectively be a traitor and in violation of their oath. A decapitated country isn’t a country, it’s just land waiting to be stolen
@eaiouandsomtimesy7924
11 ай бұрын
Bee keeper supremacy
@connorallgood0922
11 ай бұрын
Yes, we are called to defend our country from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. It could be argued based on circumstance that by not supporting the federal government they are upholding the constitution.
@eaiouandsomtimesy7924
11 ай бұрын
@@connorallgood0922 bee keeper surpremacy
@superjj1850
11 ай бұрын
@@connorallgood0922 “committing treason against the organization tasked with upholding the constitution is upholding the constitution” are you braindead? They aren’t trying to uphold the constitution, they are trying to destroy it and replace it with their own
Backing the feds is not Backing the constitution
@rebelsoul5980
5 ай бұрын
Exactly!👍
@spyfan62591
4 ай бұрын
Depends if the feds uphold the constitution.
@magustrigger9195
4 ай бұрын
@spyfan62591 havent happend in 100+ years
@rebelsoul5980
4 ай бұрын
@spyfan62591 they didn't in 1861!! Secession is not only a States right, but a human right. A government that does not allow its people to secede is not a government, it is a tyrant and the people are its slaves!! 🤔
@Ben-zr4ho
4 ай бұрын
@@spyfan62591 They....don't.
Just because you fight for the federal government does not mean you've are fighting for the Constitution. I say this as a former Marine
@Mcfunface
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention marines tend to be more conservative than any other branch of the military, meaning constitutionalist in ideology. Officers especially would be conservative up to a certain rank.
@mercercraft7224
25 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@whosestone
11 күн бұрын
@@Mcfunface non-conservative officers don't hold positions that would do much outside of supply. They'd be taken care of PDQ.
@user-io9ie5cs8j
Күн бұрын
Every Marine I've known says the same thing
It may not even be just political motivation, many service members would probably be focused on protecting/evacuating their family and will just flee to wherever they go.
@josephcoon5809
Жыл бұрын
A soldier that took an oath to the Constitution doesn’t mean they took an oath to obey a tyrannical government. Moreover, that oath is in direct opposition to a tyrannical government.
@MWH12085
Жыл бұрын
It boils down to the individual service member
@mikeoveli1028
Жыл бұрын
@@josephcoon5809 Where is the tyrannical government?
@Misanthropy_Incarnate
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeoveli1028 are you serious?
@mikeoveli1028
Жыл бұрын
@@Misanthropy_Incarnate I am serious. Most people talking about a tyrannical government are completely wrong about who has power and how they use it. So my question stands. Where is this trannical government?
A big factor would be which side would be seen as the instigator. The side currently in 'legitimate' power might be able to sway more of the military onto their side.
@generalpatrick8631
Жыл бұрын
It kinda shows how goofy the 2nd amendment is now, I mean how you gonna fight a tank 😂
@guywithachromemask6260
Жыл бұрын
@@generalpatrick8631 how the fuck we lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan then?
@HDTDNOVIV
Жыл бұрын
@@generalpatrick8631Explain Vietnam
@generalpatrick8631
Жыл бұрын
@@HDTDNOVIV you think Americans have the willpower to kill each other day after day in a horrible slug that decimates our home over fucking politics
@generalpatrick8631
Жыл бұрын
@@HDTDNOVIV also, they were being invaded by a foreign imperialist power from their perspective and for all they knew they would be going right back as a French colony.
Whichever faction goes against California gets my support.
@Julian-tf5rb
Жыл бұрын
Just out of morbid curiosity, why do you hate California? I would like to know your reason behind it.
@cringewatcher4229
Жыл бұрын
@@Julian-tf5rb it’s a common trope
@someguysomeone3543
Жыл бұрын
@@Julian-tf5rb california
@Deridus
Жыл бұрын
@@Julian-tf5rb I am a (former) Portlander. The popation of my former home is just over half a million now. Since 2000, on average, 10k Californians have moved into MY city, driving up property taxes, housing costs, and worse, they brought their politics with them. That means that almost a third to a half of my city is now little more than an outpost of California, and the rest of the northern I-5 corridor has suffered the same. Last place I worked, only THREE out of 50 were actually Oregonians. The rest were even an even split between foreigners and Californians. I trust the expats far more than those who by right I should call my own countrymen by their actions and behavior alone. Everything from Californians having a bad reputation of lacking personal responsibilty and accountability, their almost slavish acceptence of government "mandates' and refusal to do anything even remotely close introspection. Before someone tries to slam me with a Whataboutism, most of the Oregonians, properly raised Oregonians, that I have known from big city to small town lack those foibles; sure, there are always going to be some, but they pale in comparrison to the Californians who have sucked the soul out of my city and ruined my state.
@Julian-tf5rb
Жыл бұрын
@Deridus FYI, I am in-fact a mid westerner by origin. Tho, I left Iowa at 18 for the service and never went back. I was stationed in California, Washington state, and many others. I now live in Portland. Beaverton, to be specific. I understand your complaints, but I have to point out that modernly, people tend not to stay in the same town they were born and raised in. The overwhelming majority migrate to new areas. The reality is, I know many small town Oregonians that feel you are the invader. In fact, they would have similar complaints about you.(As a Portland exile)
It definitely would be more complicated. There is no Mason Dixon Line; to mark distinction between opposite sides.
@dakotadurham4788
Жыл бұрын
Correct. It would largely be a war between urban centers and the countryside, not unlike civil wars we’ve seen in places like Afghanistan, Guatemala, etc.
@MikeHunt-zy3cn
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotadurham4788 Brazil for the last couple of decades.
@runtoth3abyss
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotadurham4788 which means urban centers win
@dakotadurham4788
Жыл бұрын
@@runtoth3abyss not necessarily
@runtoth3abyss
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotadurham4788 In any war for the last few thousand years you fight over urban centers not farmland. Since urban centers allow you to control the surrounding areas. So at best conservatives forming meal team six in their boomer patrols set up some long term insurgency. But they have no chance of winning. Most Americans are tired of the crazy gun nuts talking boogaloo
A lot of Americans seem eager for this to happen 💀
@spiffopelotudo
10 ай бұрын
And when It happens they'll regret wishing for It 😂😂
@greedyinterntainment5973
10 ай бұрын
@@spiffopelotudoshhhhh
@spiffopelotudo
10 ай бұрын
@@greedyinterntainment5973 Bro thinks he can "shhh" some random guy on KZread 😭
@cohengamertv6548
10 ай бұрын
Because its needed, we must defeat the Right wing bigots, and let socialists reform the country, DEATH TO CAPITALISM AND PRIVATE HEALTHCARE, HEALTHCARE SHOULD BE FREE, AND WE MUST FIGHT FOR THAT RIGHT
@isaackellogg3493
10 ай бұрын
“I don’t want to be in a battle, but waiting for one I can’t escape is even worse.”-Peregrin Took, Minas Tirith, T. A. 3019
If anyone wants to know what the next American Civil War is going to look like, I suggest you start reading up on the Guatemalan Civil War, which was a Cold War-era civil war fought down largely ethnic/cultural lines that also just so happened to be Urban vs Rural.
@skylerburgess8907
Жыл бұрын
The Yugo civil war would also be a good basis for what an American civil war would look like and possible have the same fate.
@mikeehrcke7594
Жыл бұрын
This isn’t urban vs rural though…. It’s has more an age gap than it does urban v rural😂
@dakotadurham4788
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeehrcke7594 The whole of American politics is split down the urban rural divide
@mikeehrcke7594
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotadurham4788 not really it’s democrat and republican… urban doesn’t just vote Republican and cities just don’t vote Democrat…. I see your don’t actually know and just believe what is said on the news huh?
@aycc-nbh7289
Жыл бұрын
@@skylerburgess8907Wasn’t that based on ethnic regions?
“Remain loyal to federal government, upholding their duty to protect the constitution” If there is a second civil war, the government will no longer be on the side of the constitution. The people fighting the government would be.
@epgamer1145
5 ай бұрын
Facts. The military of the government will also have ROE training. Militias don’t do that kind of training. It would be fairly easy to take advantage of their training to serve against them. Those who would still serve under them would be the socially regressive types so they can be easily spooked into distrust, making them unorganized. Looking at everywhere they shouldn’t. What the real problem would be is after the war. What country would want to invade when the country is back on track to recovery.
@Matt_Alaric
3 ай бұрын
According to you. The people fighting for the government would say they're the ones defending the constitution.
@user-vq6pu9uj8r
2 ай бұрын
No, only people who call for civil war in USA would definitely be against constitution as they are against it right now, while only paying lip service to it
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
Do you know the beliefs of all the more than 30 factions in this country? How are conservatives different in their beliefs from Mormons or The Proud Boys or evangelical churches?
Im with Texas.
@mikeoveli1028
Жыл бұрын
Baron Everyone knows Texas will be the first target for a neutron bomb. Wipe out the state and move in and take the oil.
@mikeehrcke7594
Жыл бұрын
Well we know they are on the bad side of a lot of opinions and is current leading instigator😂 other than Florida so idk if that’s the best decision, definitely the blaze of glory option😂 I mean the state that proposed the abortion SS is definitely getting war crimes💀
@Rebel940
11 ай бұрын
And I’m with Florida! Brothers unite!
@goese868
11 ай бұрын
@@Rebel940And i'm with Alabama, i think i can see where this is going.
@Svenhansson
10 ай бұрын
Im in GA. We stand together 🤝
In an all out civil war the vast majority of the military would split up in to different factions. Anyone in the military or that has been in for any military can tell you that 99% of soldiers do not fight for the government, but for their homes. Soldiers would most likely side with whatever faction their home and family is in.
@kingkrab5138
9 ай бұрын
Or for a larger ideological faction that has no loyalties to a specific state, but to all of them at once.
@ProxiProtogen
3 ай бұрын
If they really want to fight for their home, they wouldn't join the military that haven't fought a defensive war in decades.
@brianaandahl2291
Ай бұрын
The Military does not fight for white trash MAGATS
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
The people you talk to don't make and enforce Army rules.
Youd see a lot of enlisted going to one side and officers going to the other. College education plays a huge role ideological beliefs
@kingkrab5138
9 ай бұрын
Luckily for us NCOs exist and are very based.
But thats why soldiers are deployed away from their home state and one state never has a mahority . Maybe you can say National Guard could easily rebel.
@Dylan-lw1xc
Жыл бұрын
When shit hits the fan the army of immigrants and college kids is gonna start breaking apart, they joined for benefits not to die or kill people in there own country, I think only maybe a 10th would not just go awol and try to immigrate unless it was just a local rebellion they had to put down
@randomguy6152
Жыл бұрын
general hokanson looks pretty chill i dont think the national guard will rebel and if it does it will break into factions rather than 1 major force
@kingkrab5138
9 ай бұрын
@@randomguy6152The National Guard isn’t a branch, it’s the local sub-militaries of the individual US states and territories. They would most certainly revolt seeing as they literally exist to be more loyal to the states/territories than to the federal government. Their entire purpose is to keep D.C in check.
@randomguy6152
9 ай бұрын
@@kingkrab5138 like said if they do they will into multiple factions
@premiumfruits3528
2 күн бұрын
military personnel aren't intentionally stationed away from their home state, that has nothing to do with it where the fuck did you hear that absolute drivel from?
I’ve spoken to multiple soldiers that say they would happily rebel if Texas tried to break away. XD
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shadowbonbon3
6 ай бұрын
I’d say let them, I love Dallas but honestly I wonder if they will actually last, I do hope the rest of the states don’t immediately take it back tho.
@TheREALTyreeSneed2
6 ай бұрын
Dont be in Austin thats fo sure
@HabibFromTelAviv
5 ай бұрын
Texas would be an absolute war zone, especially if the big cities like Dallas, Austin, Houston and San Antonio fought back against seceding
@kbanghart
5 ай бұрын
@@TheREALTyreeSneed2what's wrong with Austin?
I believe a large number of the Active military would stay loyal to the government while the National Guards would be more likely to go where their states went. I was Active for many years and we were much more loyal to the Constitution then our homes.
@Mars20231
Жыл бұрын
Do you really think the government would stay loyal to the constitution.
@raynierjob8488
Жыл бұрын
@@Mars20231 the military may be loyal not to the government but to the constitution and would probably overthrow said government and make their own trying to commit to the constitution
@Mars20231
Жыл бұрын
@@raynierjob8488 Your expectations are too high.
@raynierjob8488
Жыл бұрын
@@Mars20231 True true but it is possible, although the scary part is where the guys with the nukes go
@thewildcardperson
Жыл бұрын
@@raynierjob8488 they people who raped kids on epstein island have the nuke codes if they were ever being close to being caught they destroy the world
At this point, opposing the federal government would be "upholding their duty to the constitution"
I’m drunk and did not follow a single thing
@darylshanley2674
2 ай бұрын
Lmfao 😂👍
@JoseHerrera-vs8nv
Ай бұрын
Your Just The Guy They Need !
@scottcw31
17 сағат бұрын
Sleepwalking thru your precious life is a tragedy,😢
This mess we find ourselves in is because of Corruption and nothing else...
Let’s be honest, most if not all service members will always choose the people’s side
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
There won't be two sides. More like over 30 sides.
Well if you were in the military you’d know we’re pretty much all conservative 😂
@nicholasmuro1742
Ай бұрын
Idk. They kind of purged the conservatives and went woke
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
If soldiers side with say the rebels who are opposed to the feds, when the war is over and civil wars don't last forever, those soldiers will be tried, convicted, and punished. Most soldier probably don't want to go to prison.
@Nope-ik8wv
Ай бұрын
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u more of us would rather go to prison or the brig than attack our own families
@Nope-ik8wv
Ай бұрын
@@nicholasmuro1742 yeah only the pogs though
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
@@Nope-ik8wv What I watched is "2024 Political Activities # U.S. Army Training--Navigating the Ethical Midfield During an Election Cycle". They noted that one republican got in trouble for this kind of activity and another time 3 democrats. I'm just pointing out Military law according to the Judge Advocate General and the Department of Defense. I didn't do this. I'm not in the military.
I suspect several factions would feel they were the faction protecting the constitution by actually following the constitution. I don't think protecting the constitution equals maintaining unity of the states.
@demnbrown
Жыл бұрын
Has the original Civil War not taught you anything about that
No need for a Civil War. Split peacefully.
@Silly_Fella2222
5 ай бұрын
no need to split
@dragoe7441
4 ай бұрын
I would rather have my government become communist than see my nation become balkanized
@flyingsquirrell6953
3 ай бұрын
KGB plant
Uphold their duty to protect the constitution OR remain loyal to the United States government. It can no longer be both 😂
@generalpatrick8631
Жыл бұрын
I thought their duty was to protect the rights and liberties of us citizens that are deemed appropriate for the nation
@Logwarrior99
Жыл бұрын
@General Patrick No, it is to protect the constitution, and for enlisted, follow the orders of the officers appointed over them.
@inevitbleban7006
Жыл бұрын
Ok so join the democrats or join the democrats
@elroykeith1168
Жыл бұрын
@@generalpatrick8631 correct and in doing that they are protecting the constitution
@bigdiccmarty9335
Жыл бұрын
@@inevitbleban7006 you aren't a 🤡 You are the entire 🎪
If I was/am a soldier in the second civil war I would probably just quit so that I don’t face potential consequences for being on the ‘wrong side’ no matter how strong I feel about a certain side of the war.
@brandonbeilbymcleod6546
Жыл бұрын
@@SwePol Just don’t be in American then you don’t have to die
@randomguy6152
Жыл бұрын
what if the winning side or the side that occupies your home or your base declares you "a traitor for not fighting for the correct side"? how would you respond
@Nessy385
Жыл бұрын
coward that cant fight for what he believes in
@GnosticLucifer
Жыл бұрын
"home of the brave" another string of words rendered meaningless
@TheSwedishHistorian
Жыл бұрын
@@SwePol based
Each individual would have to make the choice, if a soldier does not believe he will defect at the first chance he gets, even if that means sprinting across the battlefield with his hands up. Absolutely nobody will just "go along" with anything in a civil war. Again the Russo-Ukrainian war shows us this is just as true today as it was 100 years ago. Be it defectors to Ukraine or defectors to Russia. Foreign volunteers will be available to whatever factions that provide the opportunity to them, the reason Russia has "non" and Ukraine has over 20K is that Ukraine made a unit in the military for foreigners with English as command-language. Russia on the other hand has no rules that prevent foreigners from joining *BUT* there is no centralized foreign unit, Russian is the command language but Russia has created several PMC's, tho this is actually worse for foreigners as joining a PMC is a crime in several nations and would mean that the volunteer not only joins for the fight but they must leave everything behind, obviously this makes it easier to join Ukraine where you can come and go as you like with flexible contracts.
@jaredwilliams2357
Жыл бұрын
If being a PMC was a crime mercenaries from all over the world would be in that same situation anyways
@misterjei
5 ай бұрын
As with the last US civil conflict. Most then US (Federal) military personnel who fought for the Confederacy, would have chosen to resign their commissions prior to the conflict. then rejoin the military under their state or local milita. (Thus avoiding either a summary (drumhead) court martial, with the death penalty, or just the death penalty.)
@Ben-zr4ho
4 ай бұрын
Right that's why people from around the world went to fight for Ukraine but few went to fight for Russia. Doesn't have anything to do with Ukraine having the obvious moral high ground... You know as a country that was invaded without provocation and is fighting for their existential right to exist.
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
Before the Russians came in, Ukraine had a civil war.
@davidmende4438
5 күн бұрын
lol.
I think the right would get most of the military, cuz most people who volunteer for the army come from more conservative people.
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
Civil wars are economic not ideological. The current political divide would be completely out the window
@napoleonbonaparte6705
Жыл бұрын
@@tomdalton4293 thats not true, civil wars can be both.
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
@@napoleonbonaparte6705 ideology is used to motivate people, it is not the primary cause
@napoleonbonaparte6705
Жыл бұрын
@@tomdalton4293 that's usualy true
@flyingsquirrell6953
3 ай бұрын
@@tomdalton4293 oh so this is how realists view civil wars. Fascinating.
What if the Gov isnt keeping True to the Constitution. Thats the problem we have today.
@user-rp5vx2pb9i
10 ай бұрын
Exactly right.
@trashcantheretardman8459
9 ай бұрын
Thats the problem we had with Trump, and now the mess he made is starting to be cleaned up.
@user-rp5vx2pb9i
9 ай бұрын
Sure don't agree with you there. The communists (democrats) made the mess you are referring to. @@trashcantheretardman8459
@gmanplaysgames256
7 ай бұрын
@@trashcantheretardman8459 ok sure buddy
@TheAllAmericanHoneyBadger
6 ай бұрын
@@trashcantheretardman8459No, If anything it is worse now. Trump never used the Antifa riots as an excuse to go after his Political Rivals.
you missed a key point, enemies foreign and domestic
Dean if you get the chance look into the Ulrainian Black army, I want to see if you fi d it as i yeresting as I do
@ShitheadPest
Жыл бұрын
Yes i englash two
@NathanAurelianus
Жыл бұрын
@@ShitheadPest goof
Or the military will go to whoever is putting their name at the bottom of their paychecks. Something to think about.
@user-sk7zc1fc5u
Ай бұрын
Most will also follow military conduct laws.
I fight for whoever wants to be left alone
Dude…… the military in California would not be loyal to California. Just no way.
that map is VERY generous to the democrats
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
Civil wars are economic not ideological. The current political divide would be completely out the window
@That_Autistic_Liam
2 ай бұрын
@@tomdalton4293 why not devolve that mess into the Russian Civil War
I don’t even care about republicans vs democrats I just want to protect my family
Full video when
So it’s California and New York vs Texas and Florida? ..got it.
I live in Illinois, there is no way in hell I side with Chicago
Im fighting for my home of Wisconsin. Thats for sure.
@danilecashin4126
2 ай бұрын
Im with you In Wisconsin 😊
@jacobhawley60
2 ай бұрын
@@danilecashin4126 Welcome aboard Brother. We will be the Cheese head Brigade!
@JoseHerrera-vs8nv
Ай бұрын
I'm in Commifornia I'm Not Fighting For Comrade Nuisance ! ( U S Army 70 -72 ) !
I personally think Virginia would join the south instead of the north
@Despondent-
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! Rural Appalachians & West Virginia folk are packing serious Heat and most of them believe it or not, are retired SOF/SF.
@Matt_Alaric
3 ай бұрын
@@Despondent- Most people in that region are absolutely not retired SOF/SF.
@Despondent-
3 ай бұрын
@@Matt_Alaric how do you know, do you live there? Are you American?
@Matt_Alaric
3 ай бұрын
@@Despondent- Outside of a military base there's essentially nowhere where most people are former military, let alone special forces. I'd ask you to show your proof, but we both know you don't have any.
@Despondent-
3 ай бұрын
@@Matt_Alaric North Carolina
If a 2nd civil war broke out in the USA. It likely wouldn’t be red states vs blue states but federal government vs a whole bunch of diffirent factions. I also imagine that perhaps native americans would try to gain independence.
The day when the military was predominately right wing is long gone and you can thank Obama for that.
@gups4963
Жыл бұрын
That's more for officers, though the Biden admin has been trying to get enlisted in blue areas which is one of the reasons were below on numbers right now
@ryeguy7941
Жыл бұрын
The military is also now have trouble recruiting.
@joee7809
Жыл бұрын
@@ryeguy7941 9/11 isn’t a factor anymore. They had to conscript for Vietnam too
@ryeguy7941
Жыл бұрын
@@joee7809 the fuck up in Afghanistan didn't help either.
@greedyinterntainment5973
10 ай бұрын
Obama is a war criminal, why did people vote for him again?
POV : all the soldier mass deserting and only the same percentage of officers being around
Bold of you to assume that the federal government would be seen as upholding the Constitution
Soldiers back who is paying.
It comes down to who the soldier thinks will win. Most people are relatively moderate and comfortable with their lives and will join whatever side promises that. If the soldier belives the rural side will win they’ll join that one
So basically just the US civil war from KaiserReich
@SerialDesignationG3071
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Feds vs. Right vs. Left.
@the11382
10 ай бұрын
Warring states period sounds accurate.
Omfg soldier tf2
@chargingcommando67
5 ай бұрын
Yes
It depends on the reasoning for the Civil War. Every Soldier takes an oath to protect the United States from all threats foreign and domestic. If the government becomes a threat to the people then they are a domestic threat and they must be dealt with.
@BigTomInTheBasement
6 ай бұрын
The oath is to support and defend the US Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.
@JoseHerrera-vs8nv
Ай бұрын
Lately It's More Domestic !
IL isnt blue, chicago is. And those roads going in and out are…. “cloggible”
Man the new kaiserreich update looks fire
Unless you started with raids on ammunition manufacturing facilities it’s not going to last long anyway.
Backing the constitution may be a completely different option to backing the federal government.
"Their loyalty to the federal government and their oath to uphold the constitution" Those things don't go together, if we wanted to enforce the constitution, the first thing that would need to happen is an abolishing of the federal government.
@demnbrown
Жыл бұрын
The federal government is part of the Constitution it's literally the first three articles
Considering what’s goin on a few hours from me, this seems somewhat realistic
My question is, are there more mercenaries in the U.S. military or are there more patriots?
> Insert 4chan post predicting 75% defection rate from the US military with 50% of that 75% defecting immediately.
@MikeHunt-zy3cn
Жыл бұрын
I genuienly would not be shocked.
@monkofdarktimes
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly they are good with modern conflict analysis
@teufelshunde4
11 ай бұрын
4chan the incel capital of the world.
@monkofdarktimes
11 ай бұрын
@@teufelshunde4 lad that's reddit
@datnoob4394
11 ай бұрын
@@teufelshunde4 "The only metric of value I have for people is sex"
Honestly does the federal government even protect the constitution
Upholding your oath to the constitution has nothing to do with loyalty to the government of the day. In fact at times loyalty to the constitution may put you in opposition to the government. The constitution protects the people not the government
We’re too lazy and distracted for any civil war. After day three most men would be like “meh, I’d rather play CoD” then go home.
@damackabet.4611
9 ай бұрын
Your absolutely right as long as the nations not gone completely suffering its unlikely to happen.
@matt-oq7kb
5 ай бұрын
You assume all Americans are lazy. Ppl have full time jobs and don't play cod all day so this could happen
I will be honest I would join the faction my states in
@generalpatrick8631
Жыл бұрын
That's dumb
@goese868
11 ай бұрын
What if your state was the republican faction?
@tetraxis3011
10 ай бұрын
@@goese868He’d join it. That’s what he said.
@goese868
10 ай бұрын
@@tetraxis3011 yeah but what if your state was republican?
@chad2522
10 ай бұрын
@@goese868Fight for the side that actually helps the average American and supports the constitution, compared to the other side that says they do both while not actually doing both.
Then, when it happens, they’ll be miserable because they won’t be cool seeing and watching dead people (mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and friends) on the streets they once walk in peace. No more McDonald’s or fast food no more supermarkets just pure survival. Let’s hope a civil war doesn’t happen.
Id probably try my best to make my own version of the “free state of jones” just better
Majority of the rank and file are right wing and would defect against their left wing upper brass however the left wing faction can just raise an army of illegal immigrants who will have zero problem with following orders to massacre the white countryside. State national guards would probably be loyal to their governor and would join whatever that side was or just be swallowed up into a larger left or right wing army. In blue swing states however like Michigan and Wisconsin, there would be probably many counties who would side against their state government
@SerialDesignationG3071
Жыл бұрын
Well, that explains why the Left wants so many illegal immigrants in the country.
@stinkybuttrat
Жыл бұрын
Lmao you would be surprised at how left leaning most of the one and done guys are who just want to get in, get out, and get their degrees. Most of the people in the military today are fucking normal dudes and want nothing to do with whatever batshit culture war bullshit the Republicans are trying to do like pass a constitutional ammendment to make being "woke" a capital offense or other dumb shit like that.
@inevitbleban7006
Жыл бұрын
That is a horrendous schizo post that shows you’re detached from the true reality of our political parties.
@inevitbleban7006
Жыл бұрын
@@Heisenberg4188 stop sitting on the chair that barely supports your weight and go touch grass you ogre
@joee7809
Жыл бұрын
Jesse wtf are you talking about
Commitment to the federal government is not the same as upholding the constitution
A possibility could be that there will be many factions and warlords with territories too but small enough not to worry about.
Honoring their Oath by serving the government in a civil war LOL this dude doesn't have a fucking clue
So warlordism
The thing that people also need to consider, is race warfare may occur due to a split in the US.
@kingkrab5138
9 ай бұрын
Most US servicemen regardless of race see them as more American (or identify with their specific state in the case of the National Guard) than Black or White. Racial warfare would be fought between militias trying to eradicate each other’s people and some of the military factions trying to stop them all and unify the country.
@Xmartin94
6 ай бұрын
No it be faction war far there be like forty then a simple two with immigration, ideological, and other factors cause sub factions to form it be as this guy siad in other videos this civil war would be like the Yugoslavia civil war.
@epgamer1145
5 ай бұрын
Facts. Inner cities I’ll be mostly black and dependent on the government for support. Outer rural areas will be more white people that are more self sufficient. Unfortunately, black people are on too many crutches to stand for themselves. Mexicans would be the other opposing race that may want to engage in such a conflict. Now they are still prone to diversity government assistance. It may not be a topic spoken on any media platform as much as the black population but they do get all those crutches for being a minority. White people had to do with very little for the past 60 years so that naturally forced most white people to be self sufficient and less dependent on the government that actively rejects them. The only places where they wouldn’t do too hot is areas along the coasts of the nation. Inner central states will be just fine. Systematically, white people do have the higher chance of taking advantage of cutting off resources to dense cities and just starve the races out. It could possibly be done with little physical engagement.
@flyingsquirrell6953
3 ай бұрын
Minorities joining one side because their rights are not intrinsically valued on the other is not a race rebellion my g.
Members of the military took an oath to protect the constitution. The civilian army employed by the 3 letter federal agencies did not. It's not hard to see who will be foes of the citizens.
The government has been off the constitutions leash for at least 100 years.
A big part of the military will probably join the most conservative side
@the_regulator1145
5 ай бұрын
Overwhelming.
I've heard there is schism in the military, the support troops would be liberal and the combat troops are more patriotic. The combat troops are the important ones.
@sanskaarkulkarni1036
3 ай бұрын
The US military is powerful only because its logistics/support systems are the best in the world.
@theholyemu3716
2 ай бұрын
An army cannot fight without well minted equipment, logistics, or on an empty stomach support troops are vital
@buckystarfinger2487
2 ай бұрын
@@theholyemu3716 your 100% correct.
@johnathonrouse7581
2 ай бұрын
Imagine acting like liberal and patriotic are mutually exclusive concepts
@buckystarfinger2487
2 ай бұрын
@@johnathonrouse7581 Sad but true.
as a former marine i can tell you right now watever faction texas is they’ll join as 65 percent are from texas 30 percent are from cali and the other 5 is from who gives a fuck state 😂😂
Let’s kick it off, it’s been too long
I think the majority would side with the government. If that government is the left wing faction in the war it's likely to see more defections than a rightwing faction,and the lead up would be critical however.
Whoever wins, we all lose.
If the military splits, we’re screwed
@templar1541
4 ай бұрын
Na
@neofulcrum5013
4 ай бұрын
@@templar1541 ????
all of the competent personel will be on the right and all of the incompetent personel will be on the left
But, isn't the military traditionally Right leaning? Same with the mercenaries.
@MikeHunt-zy3cn
Жыл бұрын
Yes. As those in the countryside are more likely to enlist than urbanites.
@damackabet.4611
9 ай бұрын
The soldiers are, they have put a lot of left leaning political officers in the higher officer echelons though. So the average grunt is mostly conservative but theirs a fair chance their officer is a leftist.
That would also depend on wether or not the dividing faction joined a side because of their oath to the constitution that the federal government may not be upholding. We serve the people, not kings or power
It comes down to this, you’re either loyal to your people, your family/friends. Or you’re loyal to the money, you’re loyal to the rich men who will dish out a small percentage of their net worth to buy your soul
So a warring states period?
This unlike it's 1861 cousin would be a political not geography civil war. And Very few Military members from blue states would actually side with the woke mob as they're largely made up of centrists/conservatives. Hell, even blue state national guard units are largely if not overwhelmingly made up of centrists/conservatives. Add to that all the people that have guns. I've heard A LOT of videos like this one trying to do mental gymnastics to keep blue states blue. I'm sorry but the hard core members of the left wouldn't be overwhelmed by those of the center/right. They'd be MASSIVELY overwhelmed. And lose within a matter of months if not weeks. Furthermore the left would have good cause to seek terms ASAP as at the (boiling ) point of civil war the right would not be in a forgiving, let bygones be bygones kind of mood. And any pointless resistance causing more deaths on their side would only serve to harden (and darken) that mood.
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
Civil wars are economic not ideological. The current political divide would be completely out the window
@raybarry4307
Жыл бұрын
@tomdalton4293 I don't know how many civil wars you studied, but most civil wars are Deeply political. Of course there's an economic element to most civil wars. But most of the well known civil wars that l can think of are Deeply political.
@tomdalton4293
Жыл бұрын
@@raybarry4307 No one is going to war over wokeness, abortion, trans issues or prayer in school. The Revolutionary War, the War of 1812 and the Civil War were entirety motivated by economics, as will be any future war
@cohengamertv6548
10 ай бұрын
Correcting you saying “woke mob” its actually called *Progressiveness*
@raybarry4307
10 ай бұрын
@cohengamertv6548 It's actually called regressive because Progressives like to push things so far so fast that eventually people tire of it and vote for candidates pushing the opposite message
I wander who's general "white rage" side is
@sanityunknown6958
Жыл бұрын
what?
@nicbahtin4774
Жыл бұрын
@@sanityunknown6958 mark milley the chief of staff who's spouting b*llsh!t like trying to understand "white rage"
@MikeHunt-zy3cn
Жыл бұрын
I have no clue what you're talking about.
@nostalgicfantasy7938
9 ай бұрын
@@sanityunknown6958 The us army general made a woke statement saying "i want to understand white rage"
Please keep making these "second American civil war" videos they are very interesting
In the original War between the States most soldiers fought for their home. An extremely small minority cared about any of the "textbook" reasons, including slavery and tariffs. Also, the political philosophy of States vs Federal supremacy was immaterial. Home and kin.
As a United States Marine I promise you the majority of the branch would fight along site the people against the gov.
@majorsynthqed7374
Ай бұрын
As a Marine combat veteran I can predict that most Marines would be more likely to turn their guns on Congress instead of the people.
If the government is crininal towards the people, I say the military doesn't have to uphold its constitutional oath to protect that government but only needs to uphold their oath to protect the people.
I know this might seem impossible as some of the States are now Blue, I could see a Republican CSA Reunion. I feel like even though Louisiana is technically blue, I feel like in the inside, they truly red
@hs5312
Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about Louisiana has voted for a democratic president since bill Clinton
@Heisenberg4188
Жыл бұрын
It would also include plains, mountain west and parts of the Midwest like Ohio
@randomguy6152
Жыл бұрын
louisana is mostly minority population and us minorities tend to vote democratic
@adameve2647
10 ай бұрын
Wherever liberalism goes they destroy everything just like in my country
The problem would be when soldiers disagree with which side is actually up holding and defending the Constitution.
Civil war… I think you mean revolution
If you swore an oath to the Constitution you swore an oath to protect and uphold its tenants.
@billieunderwood8303
4 ай бұрын
Not necessarily
First.
@eaturcookiescookie7462
Жыл бұрын
💀
Why does it feel like we are getting closer and closer to a scenario like this its freaky
bros pro government. the military would fall apart and fight washington
It would probably be like what happened in the Spanish Civil War