How the Mark Twain Riverboat at Disneyland Works
We are back at Disneyland to look at how they operate the Mark Twain Riverboat. In our "Walking With Walt Pt2" we went over the history of the boat, now let's look at the operation.
The Mark Twain Riverboat was built by Joe Fowler in 1955. Like the other rivers of America boat at Disneyland, the Columba sailing ship, the Mark Twain runs on a track. It is floating and is in fact driven by its steam-powered paddlewheel, it is guided by a single rail guideway, which also provides braking. However, the brake is only used as a "parking brake". The paddlewheel provides forward power as well as operational braking.
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"Fowler's Harbor" also serves as a dry dock where maintenance is performed on both ships.
Do you remember watching Disneyland every Monday night as they showed the buildings of Disneyland? Even mom and dad were always there with us. This was of course and times were a lot simpler. Thanks again guys.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Three channels. ABC owned 1/3 of the park so they were promoting it. It was really a brilliant partnership. ABC put up all of the money $7 million, in exchange for 1/3 ownership, and Disney did all of the creative work. And then with ABC promoting it week after week on the Disney show, everybody wanted to see Disneyland. It was packed on opening day and this remain packed ever since.
@iannarita9816
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Disney show was on NBC. When I went to fact check myself I found out something different than I remembered. The Disney show was all over, ABC, NBC & CBS. Not on PBS though or (thankfully) fox.
Saying the Mark Twain was built at the park is only partially true. The hull was constructed at Todd Shipyards in Los Angeles CA and the decks were constructed on sound stages at the Disney Studio in Burbank. All the pieces were then moved to Disneyland and assembled like a giant riverboat puzzle. Pretty neat.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Check out the other video. Walking with Walt #2. Deeper history. Link near the end of this video.
I'm afraid that the engineer still didn't explain the "brake" very well to you. There is no brake that actually grips the track. They use the mooring line that the cast member hands to the other workers on the dock. As the boat comes in, the engineer will slow the boat by reversing the paddle until the boat stops. The mooring line is handed over and fixed. Then the engineer runs the paddle slow ahead to tighten the boat against the mooring line, preventing the boat from doing any backward or forward movement. I've spoken to many of the engineers over the years and learned all of this. But when I was a Cast Member at Disneyland, I do remember one incident, the Mark Twain was leaving the dock, they blow the whistle to alert the smaller boats on the river to basically "Get out of the way!" Well one of the pilots of the tom sawyer rafts must not have paid attention because they suddenly drove the raft across the river to the other side. The pilot in the Mark Twain Wheelhouse saw this (and I suspect the engineer did too), they went full reverse. The only time I've ever seen them do a full reverse. That wheel spun like crazy, kicking water up into the air as they tried desperately to stop the boat before it got too close. Though the raft had already reached the other side of the river, they didn't want to risk floating past it until it was moored because the larger Mark Twain makes other smaller boats get sucked-in toward it. It was a pretty interesting thing to see, no one got hurt. But it's an example of how the wheel is the only way to slow or stop the vessel even in an emergency like that.
@softwerksaol
Жыл бұрын
I believe there was an accident 20 years ago where the bollard on the dock was loose, and the Mark Twain pulled on it too hard, and it came loose. The spring action of the mooring line snapped back on a park guest, and injured them.
very impressive shot of the boats steam engine
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
You kids are having just too much fun😊👍
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again
Thanks a lot that answered many questions Dave
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
Why would anyone give you all crap! You guys are so entertaining. Because of your trip to Sacramento I made a stop at the California railway museum near closing time. It was great. Yet another great episode.
That was enjoyable to watch and interesting too. I had an idea how the ride was being controlled. Raised around work boat you learn fast about wind drift and currents so I figured there was a track it followed... now we all know.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yup. The other boats on the river are actually free floating steering boats.
Another awesome episode! Had me hooked all the way to the end. Thanks for another great video!
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Hi again and as always THANKS
Thanks
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
Sharon and I loved to go to Disneyland. I would stay on the train as long as I could. We went there the year San Francisco had that big earthquake; because of that; we could just walk on any ride without waiting in line. We loved it so much that we bought a timeshare on the Disney bus route. Sharon and I are older now and have mobility issues, so we will never be back. It is always fun to see it at Halloween. Thanks, Dale and Karyn, for allowing me to see it again at least through your video lens.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
We managed to get into the haunted mansion. Dressed for the nightmare before Christmas. Amazing. Next week!
It's a great ride. A little short now .But still steaming . Have a great week
Thanks 🙏
Maybe take a trip to New Orleans for an ultimate river boat excursion.
Love your content!!! Thank you so much for sharing!
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
Love it... Once again..
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again
Thanks for sharing those details.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for watching
I love the Mark Twain and the american locomotives that Walt had constructed. I first went to Dland two weeks after it opened. My grandpa loved spoiling me. It cost about $8.00 per person to get in, rides required a ticket from a book which cost more $. I didn't realize that the Twain was guided by a track until I was much older. Your channel is always great fun!
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah I had the opportunity to go to Disneyland in 1958. Fortunately there are parts that haven’t changed much. It’s really fun to know that part of the park is original.
I’ve seen this track many times over the years while the river was drained and it always amazes me how thin it is to guide such huge boats. Of course the river was drained (and then just the back half drained) during the construction of Galaxy’s Edge a few years back when they had to re-route both the river and the train tracks - Overall they did a wonderful job and actually made that area look a lot better than it did. (And it was the first time that the Disneyland railroad ever veered to the left!)
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s amazing how fine that guideway is. However keep in mind that the boats are actually floating boats. So all the guideway has to do is steer the boat. It steers from the front of the boat so the back half is free to move around a bit. When the Columbia got stuck on the guideway it was twisting perhaps 45° in both directions! Somehow they were able to pull both boats tight up against the dock. And I’m assuming that there’s some kind of additional guides at the dock to make sure that they can’t twist away from the dog. And then they do run the paddle wheel and the propellers on the Columbia in reverse while it’s at the dock to hold it tight against whatever guideway is underneath it.
@FunAtDisney
Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I always thought the boats are connected to the guide at the front in back, the reason being is when you watch the Mark Twain go around the bend the back seems to follow the guide line perfectly almost as if you took a pencil and followed a curved line, the point and the eraser both followed that line.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
@@FunAtDisney could be… but the Columbia was really swinging left and right when it got stuck. But boy they pull the boats tight up to the dock… so not sure how that works.
@eliotreader8220
Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I believe I have been on the steamboat in the park in Paris some years ago back in 2012 I believe. your steam engine videos are very interesting to watch
@eliotreader8220
Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision so does the person in the wheelhouse send orders down to the engine room when they are arriving back at the dock? my Mum thought they controlled it all with computers and the like. I believe she also thought that the steam engine was fake too
I love your channel
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Hi!! Thanks again as always!!! Hope you and Cody are well!
@rileydog362
Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision Thank you so much !
I just discovered your channel today what a fun site😅
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! And hi! Did you watch the other Disney stuff? About 12 shows. For an amazing story check out Athol Grahm racing with death. And 600 foot fireball! Ode to Al. All good shows. Oh and Saltair. Like three Saltair shows. All good. The Saltair railway is the oldest show here. 1980. Ish. Black and white 16mm film.
Excellent stuff, as always. If you guys ever make it down to New Orleans, do a video on the Natchez. This boat is actually newer than the Mark Twain, but its engine came off a boat built in the ‘20s! They let you walk around in the engine room while it’s running, and it’s an amazing experience despite just going down the river a few miles. It was well worth it when my dad and I did it right after Katrina.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Always have wanted to do that. And other river boats. And the trolley. Just NOT Mardi Gras
Thanks for the photos of the engines, I only sorry you didn't spent more time on them. As far as I'm concerned, they are the most interesting part of a steam boat. These engines are generally true to the design used on the Western Rivers without very much change from before 1850. There are poppet valves for exhaust and admission on each end of each engine which are opened by the levers. The towers above the admission valves simulate what is used in a California cut-off variation on the valve gear. However, they are just dummies and the engines appear to have fixed cut-off. The valve motion is obtained from the sliding piece on the pitman (connecting rod). I've always wonder what the bore and stroke of the engines are, but the typical engine of this type will have about a one to four or one to five ratio between the bore and stroke, a much larger ratio than is found on locomotives and other steam engines. Credit for the engines goes to Chad O'Connor and O'Connor Engineering, who also built the Jupiter and CP-119 replicas at Promentory, Utah.
Great stuff ! Looks like you were there when the park was not so crowded, lucky you.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Well at some points. First night it went totally nuts. Could hardly even get out. Most lines were 2 hours. Next day.. no one..
A ship is moored not parked. I have 48k nautical miles, 8 typhoons and 1 hurricane. as nautical experience. A very good video.
@thestigmach1984
Жыл бұрын
do you want a cookie?
@straybullitt
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
And the train is operated not driven. All these little details.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT AND TIME I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH AND YOUR VIDEOS VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE YOU BOTH ARE TRUE CRAFTSMAN I ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS AND THE CHANEL TOYMAN IS AWESOME GOOD. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA 👍 👌
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!!
Well now you know what the ship is going on! (I'll admit I stole that line elsewhere) Thx again
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again. And again
heyy i rode that boat in june 2022
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Fun ride
Awesome video!!!! Where is your walking Walt video??? Enjoy ur videos!
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
The first film up on the channel page is the first one in the walking with Walt Series kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5OYzLaPp6S9Yrg.html
Very, very interesting! One thing I wonder about - the physical connection between ship and rail. It must be somewhat flexible to deal with minor changes in water level since the ships are floating.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Just a guideway.
I wonder what the mechanism looks like on the bottom of the boats that grabs/latches on to the rail/track.
Thank you, that was very interesting. Do they operate the same way in Florida?
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think so. Two paddle river boats in the beginning. Long ride took you outside the park. Anyway one broke down to the point it was unsalvageable. So the steam engine was removed and used in Tokyo.
Great idea with the tracks , smooth sailing all the way... So where are you going to in corporate a paddle wheeler on your layout? ...
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Don’t tempt me…. RC boat. Lake at the park… 1/12 scale. Oh it’s tempting.
@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877
Жыл бұрын
Hey I got the CN tugboat by the coal barge dock and running in the pool ! If ya put a pool in by the far yard end ya dont have ta cut the grass under it... Thanks for the laugh...
Ever since I was a kid in early 1960’s, I suspected the riverboat was actually steam powered, and driven by the paddle wheel, it just all seemed to fit. Does anyone know how the Columbia is powered?
@DieCastoms
Жыл бұрын
He did mention that the Columbia is also powered by diesel, but i suspect it would have an internal combustion engine rather than external, since there are no obvious exhaust stacks or steam exhausting anywhere.
@AlextheHistorian
Жыл бұрын
Columbia is a combusion engine driving two propellers
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
As it happens I just found out the Diesel engine has been converted to natural gas. Two props. And even though it on a track they can twist it slightly by using the two props in different directions.
I hope you rode in the wheel house 😁👍
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Sadly no. Hard to get up there these days.
@PaulsinMo
Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision 😔
Fun video thanks for sharing. 🙂Thomas over at The Model Hobbyist
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Hi. And thanks!
Just curious although they move on a track on a "closed" course do the vessels have to comply with all Coast Guard requirements?
@AlextheHistorian
Жыл бұрын
To the coast guard, no. Theme park attraction safety is overseen by a national theme park governing organization.
@mychaldbeausoleil3043
Жыл бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Thanks muchly
What I'd like to know is how the rafts to Tom Sawyer's Island cross over the track for Mark Twain as I believe they're on tracks too.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Yup. The rafts are free floating. Once one collided with the mark Twain. Oops.
does the boat actually float by it self or does it need the track for other than steering the boat
@ToyManTelevision
11 ай бұрын
It floats. And is powered by the steam engine. All the track does is guide it.
@aapo0881
11 ай бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision that's cool
So your so smart how is the Columbia operated???
@donnamarie3617
Жыл бұрын
Bio diesel.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
It’s been biodiesel but has been converted to natural gas. Simple throttle system. Has forward and reverse but reverse is generally only used for braking. However on this trip we did get to see it back up as it jammed on the track.
I knew about the track...I knew the paddle wheel was real steam... I didn't know about a brake. I thought they tied it off and powered in to the rope to hold it. But I guessed not.
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Actually yes. They do that. Not sure on the brake.
It WAS one of my favorites at Disneyland. Never another nickel to the woke Disney corp
Des the Mark Twain Riverboat have a Calliope?
@ToyManTelevision
Жыл бұрын
Sadly no. Just ain’t right. A Riverboat with no caleope. Sad.
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