Other Jedi: "We must not destroy sentient life!" Ki Adi Mundi: "Hans, get ze Flammenwerfer"

@Shadowdoc26

Ай бұрын

Jedi in theory don’t attack unarmed life. and yes I’m aware if anakins war crimes. They were fighting armed combatants, but yes flame throwers are cruel and unusual

@alexanderaguilastratt7497

Ай бұрын

War is cruel and unusual by nature.

@robertagu5533

Ай бұрын

War IS Hell. Close as a living being can get without ACTUALLY being there is one the things said about it due to the myriad extremely BAD things one can experience an even be forced to do to survive it. An in such a thing one ends up doing what they must to just survive not just win. Along with using what oe has or most appropriate to a said battle or mission... Sometimes that means flamethrowers n roasting giant space bugs

@timhardison3574

Ай бұрын

@@alexanderaguilastratt7497 q

@iainballas

Ай бұрын

@@robertagu5533 War's arguably WORSE than hell. At least in hell, there's no innocents suffering. in war, the innocent suffer the most.

Man, that moment when Ki-Adi Mundi says to break out the flamethrowers is when I realized that TCW wasn't just a kids show. It's still one of my all time favorite Star Wars moments. Landing at Point Rain is an incredible episode.

@bryanwilkens

Ай бұрын

Did you ever watch "Rebels"? If so, What'd you think of it?

@jamesallred460

Ай бұрын

@@bryanwilkens I have, multiple times. I like it, but I def prefer TCW.

@RayvenTheNight

Ай бұрын

I love when I see edits of that and someone will have music from Vietnam playing 😅

@jamesallred460

Ай бұрын

@@RayvenTheNight hell yeah!

@OllamhDrab

Ай бұрын

To be fair, Master Mundi has at least two brains, pretty sure he didn't have to be particularly-fixated to know the number. :)

You got Obi Wan on Tatooine, you got Yoda on Dagoba, and Qui Gon Jin in the Taken series. Your slick I almost missed this line LMAO

Qui Gon, being a proponent of the living force, and regularly interacting with living things as a way to know the force is a good counterpoint to the cloistered and secluded work of Yoda and Obi Wan

@ugoeze7360

Ай бұрын

Until his daughter was… Taken. I’ll see myself out now.

Flamethrowers? The clone wars cartoon was brutal.

@MrDibara

Ай бұрын

*Based Clone Wars cartoon* 😎

It really was f*cked up how the supposed peacekeepers of the Galaxy committed these types of crimes against people (even on their home worlds). Always a shame how we'll never see a better version of the Jedi in canon now.

9:08 Those clones in the left were looking at each other thinking "are these three mfers, serious? We just lost many of our bros and they talking about this like if this some game?"

The thing I love most about Star Wars is that it's so consistent and thoroughly thought through that you can find videos like yours explaining fictional events with more detail and logical explanantions than a Nat Geo documentary.

The droids really be thirst trapping the Jedi.....

Honestly this is why palpatine is one of the most interesting and entertaining villians I have known in fiction. His very planned and thought method destroy the jedi was just ablsoute master chess play though only when he himself got to complicent as the emperor in the galactic civil war did he screw up in ultimately like he planned everything well in advance to take power. But then once he had power he kind off half assed it because he thought like my Empire is going to crumble right? But using droids to desensitize the jedi war far was a pretty brilliant move. I am just picturing him clasping his hands together when that happening followed by evil laughter and then just spinning in his chancellor office chair for his amusement when no one is watching him.

"Master Skywalker what are we going yo do? The droids are using the famed Jedi Thirst Trap!"

Other benefit to the Sith of a droid army: when the Clone Wars ended as planned there was no leftover military presence in the Outer Rim Territories to form an organised resistance to the Empire, just isolated criminal groups and malcontents that weren't likely to work together in the short term.

@nomercyinc6783

Ай бұрын

literally any one of those planets in the cis could have gone on a rampage with droids. there were no stop gaps against that

@shadowbladezorru2748

23 күн бұрын

With some slight exceptions like Kalani as the first example I had on hand.

Obi-Wan was Jedi born for War not Peace. He was a natural in combat with a nearly perfect Form III as a padawan. He also almost quit being a Jedi just before EP1 because he struggled with basics. Qui-Gon died because Obi-Wan couldn't handle peaceful basics like Force Heal. He was a warrior, spy, theif, assassin and prolific liar. Obi-Wan would not have been a peace time Master.

@markavery7645

29 күн бұрын

Think about it. Obi-Wan fought Vader, Maul, and Tyrannus--3 Sith Lords. How many Jedi in that time fought 3 Sith Lords and survived?

I laughed a lil too hard at that ki-adi-mundi bit lmfao

The Geonosians were living being cut down like droids

This is where the fun begins.

As it is said somewhere with the revenge of the sith novelisation i think, that by the jedi taking up arms and becoming generals, the jedi had already lost as by fighting they open themselves up to being changed and corrupted slowly, but gradually into devils of their worse nature. Pong krell springs to mine in that respect as one of the worse examples of said corruption

The only Jedi who loved fighting in the clone wars was Anakin Skywalker. He was hungry he fights and wins wars like he needs it

@Antonius1911

Ай бұрын

He went from slave to warrior

@Sephiroth144

Ай бұрын

Those Tuskens didn't provide enough of a challenge... MOAR.

Thought the title would say” Addicted to Death 💀 Sticks 🔥

You should do a video on the top Sith cruisers. Darth Maul’s from Episode I, Count Dooku’s solar sailer, followed by the Inquisitor’s ship

@marcelgrabowski5939

Ай бұрын

Now that would be fun.

@tytantii

Ай бұрын

don't forget about the Sith Cruisers from the old republic.

A lot of people forget the fact that the droids didn't always have high pitched voices in the movies. It would be fun if someone used A.I. to change what we see in the show.

@casualthurs3243

Ай бұрын

Always hated that change.

@MrDibara

Ай бұрын

I did grow fond of the high-pitch clumsy and neurotic voice, _but I always loved the dead serious, monotone voice that they had in Episode I and II._ The classic Battlefront II always send me shivers when I played the CIS.

The most potent use of the force is healing, not attacking or killing.

Love the thought process, tracks with legends, and I kind of think this wouldn't have been lost on Lucas who we know definitely put thought on the effects of warfare on the warriors. Good one! Thanks for the content!

The more I learn about Star Wars. The more I appreciate Palpatine's brilliance

Palpatine is a sick individual. A shriveled old prune who was the ultimate Space Karen of a narcissist.

@everettjohnson9374

Ай бұрын

He was a patriot and a God fearing man, he is everything the galaxy needed to have a safe and happy life

@dwnkaomwn3953

Ай бұрын

@@everettjohnson9374 As long as it's under his absolute authority, that is.

@BeyondtheRailz

Ай бұрын

He commissioned the Death Star and everything else to kill billions.

Damn this is a great analysis. I never really thought about it like that. The slow, gradual corruption of the Jedi was executed perfectly. I think the Jedi mostly being fine with the creation of the clones who were fully sentient beings with their own personalities and born to fight in a war is when the corruption truly set in. They were so caught up in combat that they probably didn’t protest against this as much as they should’ve.

Generation Tech, why is it in all the wars of the Old Republic the Jedi were able to come back from those and continue on, while they were essentially corrupted by war in the Clone Wars?

@michaelbeasley2710

Ай бұрын

The wars of The Old Republic were against The Sith and The Mandalorians [mainly] who are Sentient, living beings that can be felt in The Force. All Droids in Star Wars have Sentience [to a point] but are not Living Organic Beings that can be felt in The Force. Jedi practice Lightsaber combat in the Temple against Droids [mainly] and sometimes against each other. ''Train like you Fight, And Fight like you Train". Also, after the last war with against The Sith; The Jedi gave up all the Military training and associations they had at the time. You may want to check out Geetsly's KZread channel on this topic.🤓🤓

@billyholland5156

Ай бұрын

@@michaelbeasley2710 ah. its a matter that old jedi had readied themselves for the spiritual and physical hardship of war...but as GT points out in the vid, after a thousand years they went soft.

@asoothingsound1538

Ай бұрын

Well, not all the Jedi did come back from the wars alright in the Old Republic either. Many instances Jedi turned to the Dark Side and on a high rate as well. The only difference is that instead of fighting sentient beings, they fought non-living scrap metal that conditioned them into a war state without any real stake for engaging in combat, making them more complacent than their ancestral counterparts.

Bro the Clone Wars was engineered crisis😂

@everettjohnson9374

Ай бұрын

No, don't believe that nonsense. It's just propaganda trying to push you away from the right kind of info you should know and acknowledge as true. The Droid army were as soulless as those that made them and our Emperor was the greatest hero to ever live

@VincentTheAtheist

Ай бұрын

It was an inside job

MANNNNN I've been watching and subscribed to your channel for 8 years I think .and your still the best tell ben what up!! And I'm generation tech 😅

They became like the people of tf2.

“65 general skywalker, that’s my total” …..65 lifeless droids right? ….right?!

@GenerationTech

Ай бұрын

Not the younglings

Thank you for being the best Star Wars content creator. It shows.

Question: How did the Jedi feel when they cut down the Geonosian drones and the local organic military officers such as the Umbaran troopers?

@EGRJ

Ай бұрын

To misquote an old very, very dark joke; "slight resistance, until the blade got to the other side."

Palpatine already had enough threats to his power already.

Personally, a Star Wars Infinities series for the prequels be a really fun concept that im sad we're never gotten a comic run of and probably never will.

Love this man!

"If the Grey Beards had their way, you would do nothing but sit up on the mountain with them and talk to the sky,..."

One of your best videos

In early Jedi history... The jedi had a section that studied the Darkside and the Sith. Does that group still exist?

"Qui gon in the taken franchise" had me rolling!! If you are ever interested in having someone to bounce thoughts off or have a sw podcast type episode or two. I'd be honored to help!

Great analysis you are truly one of the great thinkers of our time

Great video. The Jedi becoming a peacekeeping force for the Republic prior to the Clone Wars was a huge mistake and the prequels do a good job at illustrating how easily they were manipulated by the Sith to creating and leading the Grand Army. Palpatine had plans within plans to ensure that his greatest threat for power was decimated before Order 66. On a related note, I'd love to see a miniseries that takes place in the decade leading up to the Clone Wars. Showing the corruption of various institutions within the Republic.

Palpatine, in Legends at least, was familiar with Revan and the Old Sith Empire. He wouldn't want a Jedi Civil War because he doesn't want the war to produce a Revan-like figure who could not only challenge him in power (Dark or Light) but was charismatic enough to also challenge his political power. And given who was in the Jedi Order at the time, you're probably looking at Anakin and Ahsoka emerging as the equivalents to Revan and Malik. He wanted to keep that potential on a leash of his own making and control much like Tenebrae tried to do with Revan and failed.

Don't shit on Hestizo! She's the shit, I wish I could communicate with my garden!😂

@GenerationTech

Ай бұрын

Hehe 😜

First image that came to my mind was a bunch of jedi sniffing grinded up droid parts into a powder and then geeking out doing force flips and shit...

Anakin: I called in the air strike. Ashoka: That still only counts as one.

I never noticed in ep 1 when anakin qas working on 3cp0 he has one of those toys you use to throw a ball back and forth.

Qui gon in the "Taken" series. Omg now that's funny.

Battle/war is one of the only times that a jedi could let loose, and test the limits of their capabilities post Ruson.

Calling Ki-Adi Mundi “Polygamous potato head Jedi” made my day

Oh that's nothing. Remember the time when Revan's Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars became so addicted to war they fell to the Dark Side and became ruthless conquering Sith? Decimating the Mandalorians gave them a taste for violence, and they were no longer going to take orders from the Jedi Council or the Senate. Revan was so war-hungry that his plan to prepare the galaxy for the True Sith was to wage war on the galaxy, so that either they'd be ready to take on the Sith, or he could take the galaxy over and prepare it to fight the True Sith. Malak was so war-hungry he was glassing planets left and right.

That's a very good point. We know for a fact Ani and 'Soka had fun. You saw Obi Wan and Windu start to get cocky too.

1:48 OHHHHH HE SAID THE THIIIING

I like your new background-enviroment for filming. It looks really adult and serious and clean and sharp. It screams "30 and successful" long way:) But ideally you'll never finish that cup of coffee or whatever it is on the table. It all looks a lot more professional with a coffee cup on the round table.

Wouldn't say got them "addicted" as PERFECTLY duped them an played them as he set them up to almost INSTANTLY end them in minutes or days

Lords of rings they counted Orcs counted they killed Orcs

@MrDibara

Ай бұрын

"Final count... 46." "Hum, 46? Not bad for a pointy-eared Elf prince. I am sitting on the number 47." ❗️ 🏹 💥 "...?" _"47~."_ *"He was already dead."* "... He was moving!" "He was moving. Because my axe! Is IN HIS NERVOUS SYSTEM!"

I don’t know if it’s the chair or the backdrop or the camera blocking, but I really want you to have a cocktail in this video.

Excellent insight! By instigating a war between two sides, one using robots and the other using manufactured slaves that conveniently allow the Jedi to just accept the sheer amount of death they become complicit in by leading the clones to their deaths. I mean, damn.

The Jedi consider droids to be soulless husks. Yet they had a rock. A bunch of minerals. That make metal. That make droids. In the Jedi high council.

@profpuffofficial2

Ай бұрын

not to mention the entire kakran species

Cool video, but please make more updated Earth🌎🌍 in Star Wars what if videos similar to Templin Institute's 21st century Earth vs Galactic Empire version few years ago?

Let's GOOOO!

Before watching. That's a Very interresting statement

We need a serie about dark plagius

It looks like Allen’s in coruscant😂

“He said the thing he said the thing” - Peter 1:50

After all this years i still don't get why people keep whining about Mundi use Flamethrowers, he protected his men in a dire situatiom when many of his men where dragged kicking and screaming in the tunnels to be eaten alive, so no, the bugs got what they deserved and Mundi did nothing wrong, besides, flamethrowers are illegal in our world only if you use them against civilians, that bugs was not civilians, and in that situation in that location FT are the perfect weapon logic wise. I am so delighted that in the end, the empire gave them what they deserve for the construction of the Droid army and the Death Star, a fit ending for such a vile race.

Creating life but what about the ethics of creating consciousness .

I dig Adam’s seasonal allergy voice lol… and what happened to his traditional sign off?

Souless Aliens. I always wondered about the logic of mot caring about souless beings. Aren't there lives more precious then ours sense . When we did its just our bodies while this life is the only life they'l ever know

In the rebellion was citizens killing civilians. What was it like for Jedi

Mmm Geonosian popcorn. Tasty!

Did they not kill sentient life as well, I recall Admiral Trench

Would the younglings Anakin killed during order 66. Have to automatically forgive him in Jedi heaven? because having hate and anger in your heart is not the jedi way. So they have to forgive anakin or risk getting booted out of jedi heaven?

Why did the droids have feelings . And sense of self. Seems they made to suffer. Maybe in universe it was intended. What anyone could see the force depend Jedi couldn't

0:16 Hello there how is it on Corusant? 😉

Shouts out to all my sith comrades

Generation Tech just caused me an epiphany when mentioning that the "Clone Wars" was actually a Galactic Civil War. The first part of the epiphany would be that if the Clone Wars was a Galactic Civil War, then could it be said that the commonly acknowledged "Galactic Civil War" or the "war to restore the Republic" (showcased primarily via the original trilogy films) was an extension of the Clone Galactic Civil War, or would it be better assessed as Galactic Civil Wars (GCW) 1 & 2, similar to our own WWI & WWII? Speaking of which, in the reverse perspective, should we then consider redesignating our own WWI & WWII as "Planetary Civil Wars 1 & 2"? If so, we'd have to start rewriting everything related to these wars with the new abbreviated designations of PCWI and PCWII. Yes, this is all a reasonably ridiculous idea, but it's an idea, nonetheless. 🤔🧐😶

Good thing geonosians are edible.. probably

@GenerationTech

Ай бұрын

Best last words

Jedi; amiright?!

lore accurate US Congress

Sometimes I question the conclusion of the Jedi getting too political. Sure, many religious orders in the real world operate isolated from the bigger world for the most part, but what happens when some Jedi inevitably become Sith? The first Sith were Jedi who were pushing on the boundaries of their teachings and learned of the Dark Side. Maybe fewer Jedi would become Sith, but are the Jedi going to stop the Sith or are they just going to let them leave? I can see the Jedi Order acting as a humanitarian force in such a timeline, but would they ever make lightsabers? I’m doubtful most would. And this they won’t be trying to stop the Sith from conquering the galaxy. Now granted it took more than the Jedi to stop the Sith, but I think the entire galaxy would grow fearful of Force Wielders since the most famous ones would be the brutal Sith Lords. The Jedi Order can just return to isolation, but what about everyone else? I think the issue with the non-political Jedi argument is that it looks at the Jedi as a religious order first when it’s kind of been more than that for most of its existence. It also ignores the times that fighting alongside the Republic led to the Jedi saving the galaxy before. I think the real issue of the Jedi is the lack of agency they had in politics. I get how Alan keeps saying the Jedi Order lacks checks and balances which is a bad thing in a democracy, but how often do we actually see the Jedi abuse this power? They’re always doing what the Senate and the Chancellor tell them. Even when they push hard on something politicians don’t agree with, they relent. Look at Ahsoka’s trial. The Jedi could have not turned her over to the Republic, but they were worried about public opinion and how such a move would make them above the law. Yes they rushed into the war, but they were being pressured by the Senate, the Chancellor, the populace, and the real Separatist threat. With all due respect, what good would the Jedi have done if they left the Republic? The Sith in hiding would practically be unopposed to take over the galaxy via their machinations. The Jedi would certainly gain a reputation among neutral worlds, but the people of the Republic would see them as traitors. The Jedi might not be able to do as much investigating of Sith influence within the Republic if they’re not part of it and how many people are going to believe a group of traitors accusing some of their most powerful politicians of being extinct Sith? The issue isn’t being aligned with the Republic, it’s the complacency the Jedi had. I mean, imagine if the Jedi endorsed politicians in elections or were brought on as advisors for committees. Imagine the good that can happen. I know all about the separation of the state and the church, but given how mindful the Jedi are of others, do you really think they abuse their power to convert the entire Republic?

Well, the droids weren't alive so the Jedi had no reason to hold back.

I can’t give up. At this point, it’s more than habit. What happened to Ben and American Ben? Do you have an island where you hoard Bens?

where are you Alan

Day 2 of asking you to make a history channel

But, it was Palpatine that maneuvered the Jedi Order into leading the Grand Army of the Republic.

How did the order deal with puberty??

So I realize quoting Kreia on a video about the Jedi's failings is maybe the most cliche thing possible in this fandom by now. But it really does fit. "The true war is waged in the hearts of all living things, against our own natures, light or dark. That is what shapes and binds this galaxy, not these creations of man. You are the battleground. And if you fall, the death of the Republic will be such a quiet thing, a whisper, that shall herald the darkness to come." In the end it was always the mind games. The force relies so much on the user's mental state, and consistently it's been that like 99% of Jedi FAIL that, and that 1% is what saves/fails the rest. How many Jedi in the Clones wars actually bothered Palpatine? Anakin, Obi-wan, Mace, Yoda...I think that's it(although I could just be blanking), everyone else was cannon fodder, easily used and/or thrown away whenever he pleased.

where do you come up with these theory's ? they are good they make alot of sense and i can see easily you put thought into them but how do you stumble onto them? are you combing through SW data endlessly and just notice parallels ... i mean i think you might really be onto something but the way everything is represented to us it doesnt seem that way on the surface at all. you surely kind of forget the droids are there and then there is grevious that is still sort of a person but i think obi treats him like a droid when he eventually ends him which may play into this too. im just saying it seems like a leap to me the correct one but im struggling with how you got to A maybe

This applies to every single super hero in existence than. Cuz if the Jedi can get effected by killing people, so can super heroes. You will stand by saying that Jedi are ordinary people, but they are super human despite your logic. They can do things normal people cannot do. A literal Jedi died holding a planet together from exploding, by using all of his force abilities. Jedi can scale mountains without a harness, can run fast, duel fast, literally lift someone without touching them and even grab something that needs a machine to dissect. Jedi are super human. But they are also just as vulnerable to mental games as everyone else. Just how super heroes can have doubts as well.

I thought it made sense why the Keminowins go after Boba for fresh DNA. . He was in jail in accessable. But why couldn't they visit him and get a sample. Why didn't they just settle for a sample of Omega . Why didn't The writers put Boba in Andor

Never understood why George lucas made the jedi order more like CIA HQ rather than Shaolun temples

@arthurbriand2175

Ай бұрын

Because this Jedi order was a political/military organisation before being a religious order. They were at the center of the capital, close to the Senate and other power centers.

@V.B.Squire

Ай бұрын

@@arthurbriand2175 I know GL was political messaging but OG fans found it jarring and out of synch with expectations

@kungolaf4499

21 күн бұрын

@@V.B.Squire ”Guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy” implies some sort of political aspect to their role in the galaxy. And if they were monastic munks separate from the power structures of the galaxy, their role in that peace and stability wouldn’t be that signifigant - which wouldn’t make sense given that Ben seems to imply the Jedi’s role in the success of the Old Republic was crucial. And their political role in the galaxy couldn’t really be opposed or hostile to the current galactic superpower - since they would get wiped out. So this neutral pro-galactic power peacekeeper role was a very natural version of the Jedi. A role which allows anyone with superpowers to grow self-indulgent and complacent.

Geonosians are just bugs nobody cares about. If the clone wars truly wanted to be "brutal" we would have seen flamethrowers being used against humanoids. Clone war is still a kids show even if it's a slightly edgier one

Haven't watched the video yet. I'm going to immediately take a guess and say the Droid army's purpose was to train Anakin

@user-lc5of7jh5g

Ай бұрын

*Incorrect buzzer*

@donutlovingwerewolf8837

Ай бұрын

@@user-lc5of7jh5g [insert Darth Vader screaming no]

There is a real world, though less cosmically relevant story I like to tell which IMO reflects the Jedi's poor approach. So Transformers Beast Wars comes to an end, and its success spawns a sequel, this time on Fox Kids. The triumphant Maximals awaken back on Cybertron, their memories fuzzy, their forms locked and Megatron, defeated big time in the prior finale, now running and corrupting everything. Okay, intriguing. But scheduling, including weeks without new episodes and the drip-drip reveal of what happened means it is weeks if not months before we even really get the frame of all that has occurred. Of course, if you happened to miss an episode (VCR's only, no real DVR tech on a wide basis) - even that might be frustrated. The series, Beast Machines, rightly or wrongly got a bad rep and IMO this was not aided by taking so long to connect it to the prior series - not to mention steam-shoveling plot coupons and luck pies to old Megatron. So later on, I found out show runner Dan Didio - later ramrod of DC Comics for way way too long - told the writers to not view Beast Wars. Huh? I could see veering off from BW, which BM definitely did. Now, the show has its defenders and fans, so I'm not getting personal except to say - you are making a sequel. Building on what has come before is a necessity, with exceptions like Wrath Of Khan bypassing the first motion picture. Didio had a thing about discarding the past - see JSA and Titans - but just as a sequel at least needs to be aware of the prior entry, even if veered away from, so does even a monstrous enemy need to be studied. In recent times, the Nazis have gone from nigh-invincible unyielding focus super-soldiers to a backbiting model more akin to Hogans Heroes. Studying the Sith would have revealed one imprortant fact: They will always kill each other. That could have been invaluable.

Sounds like some Jedi need to visit the Atheists In Foxholes monument in Lake Hypatia, Alabama.

Don't worry about it. Enjoy the warmer weather northern hemisphere whilst you're polar opposite goes through the opposite. May the farce be with you. 🍜🥛☕🍌. Enjoy responsibly 🙃👍

The Jedi are addicted to war because they are trained to fight.

The Clone Wars was engineered by The Sith

@VincentTheAtheist

Ай бұрын

It was an inside job

Disney has retconned lightsabers entirely. They don’t actually kill anything