How the Florida recount nearly broke US politics - and its lessons for today

It was 249 v 246 on election night and it all came down to one state: Florida.
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The networks said Al Gore had won it, then it was too close to call, then George W. Bush had won it - before rowing back once more.
The Florida recount saw American democracy tested to the limits, showing an electoral college v popular vote split, leaving the parties and the country divided for years to come.
We speak to George W. Bush’s trial lawyer, Barry Richard, along with The Washington Post’s Karen Tumulty and Protect Democracy’s Jon Steinham.
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  • @adrianthoroughgood1191
    @adrianthoroughgood1191 Жыл бұрын

    A hand recount is clearly the Most accurate way to get the correct figures. Usually it's not necessary because the result is clear, but in this case it was close enough that small errors could change the result. How could the SC decide that it's unfair to hand recount? That makes no sense.

  • @ayoubt4507

    @ayoubt4507

    Жыл бұрын

    5 judge who voted to stop were rep when the other 4 were democrats so ..

  • @olivermoore7020
    @olivermoore70203 жыл бұрын

    Imagine how different the world might be had Gore won in 2000...

  • @nateshini5832

    @nateshini5832

    3 жыл бұрын

    No Iraq war, no rise of Isis, well on the way to fighting climate change to name a few things.

  • @olivermoore7020

    @olivermoore7020

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nateshini5832 No Iraq war for sure. As for flighting climate change, I imagine Gore would have had a tough time trying to pass any radical environmental legislation through the US system (think about how Obama struggled to get very basic health care reforms through). Though we would probably be in a better situation to where we are now.

  • @shamanahaboolist

    @shamanahaboolist

    3 жыл бұрын

    The same. Bush and Gore are really the same team.

  • @bigceazer

    @bigceazer

    3 жыл бұрын

    there still would of been a war, just not in Iraq. 9/11 still would of happened and he would of had no choice but to go to war. him being president wouldn't of changed the outcome.

  • @olivermoore7020

    @olivermoore7020

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bigceazer But as you say, no Iraq war. I agree that 9-11 and the invasion of Afghanistan would still be likely.

  • @gy7694
    @gy76943 жыл бұрын

    How is declaring a victor by a national media company before the polls have closed not illegal?! On what planet does that make sense?

  • @alexanderangelo7284

    @alexanderangelo7284

    3 жыл бұрын

    I understand your frustration, but they are private corporations they can call or not call whomever they want.

  • @noniyea9782

    @noniyea9782

    3 жыл бұрын

    They call it the way it appears at the time. 🕊️

  • @Nichrysalis

    @Nichrysalis

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a different time. There's a reason why coverage nowadays doesn't get called until it's a mathematical certainty and this is why.

  • @adrianthoroughgood1191

    @adrianthoroughgood1191

    Жыл бұрын

    It is illegal in the UK. Polling companies are banned from releasing any results until after elections have closed. It's also illegal to release any info on any counting that has happened until after the election is closed.

  • @zsomborszigeti6797

    @zsomborszigeti6797

    Жыл бұрын

    I am pretty sure it's illegal by now

  • @justifiably_stupid4998
    @justifiably_stupid49983 жыл бұрын

    My home state - the laughing stock of the world. Here we go again 2020

  • @jaimequayle3714

    @jaimequayle3714

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh don't worry, Florida doesn't need an election to be a laughing stock ;)

  • @cv507

    @cv507

    3 жыл бұрын

    laughing stock ... world ^ ^

  • @samarmisra4922

    @samarmisra4922

    3 жыл бұрын

    My home state Alabama is Florida's neighbor lol.

  • @sc666666

    @sc666666

    8 ай бұрын

    Savior of the world in this case

  • @Distress.

    @Distress.

    6 ай бұрын

    Not anymore.

  • @cherray50
    @cherray503 жыл бұрын

    We need an independent, nationalized elections bureau

  • @rclaughlin

    @rclaughlin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but who can be trusted to run it? As Juvenal said, who guards the guards?

  • @albertcalleros9489

    @albertcalleros9489

    Жыл бұрын

    Fortunately, there has long existed a politically neutral 'electoral commission' in Canada that administers parliamentary elections at the federal level. Each province maintains a politically neutral 'electoral commission' that administers parliamentary elections at the provincial level. Moreover the 'electoral commissions' at both the federal level and the provincial level are empowered to oversee the drawing of legislative boundaries without any undue political influence. Consequently, the extraordinarily egregious political practice of hyperpartisan gerrymandering in Canada is explicitly forbidden.

  • @Sparrows1121

    @Sparrows1121

    Жыл бұрын

    I will say, break away from two party establishment and go multiparty system with elected representatives. But the question is how to change a system without creating oligarch society the way it happend to Russia in the 90s

  • @wilklikesmilk5371
    @wilklikesmilk53713 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been predicting that this Election will be a lot like the 2000 Election

  • @acegarcia3719

    @acegarcia3719

    3 жыл бұрын

    It won't be like the 2000 election, it will be far worse and trubelent

  • @Normal_Boii

    @Normal_Boii

    3 жыл бұрын

    That war game where the dems call the UN to occupy the USA itself is terrifying

  • @priyamd4759

    @priyamd4759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Normal_Boii Go slow on your medicines.

  • @Normal_Boii

    @Normal_Boii

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@priyamd4759 the dems were the ones who did it lol

  • @wilklikesmilk5371

    @wilklikesmilk5371

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks everyone for the replies! It turned out that Joe Biden became the President-Elect which means he should become the 46th President and should take Office on January 20 2021

  • @nativearizona1
    @nativearizona13 жыл бұрын

    Republicans have to Rig Elections to win preferably by the Supreme Court!

  • @edv4218
    @edv42183 жыл бұрын

    I kinda wish Gore won

  • @Sol-fo2zu

    @Sol-fo2zu

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re in luck because he did!

  • @RyanFeatherston

    @RyanFeatherston

    11 ай бұрын

    Yet he still simped like a coward.

  • @ashupashu5559

    @ashupashu5559

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RyanFeatherston for who

  • @RyanFeatherston

    @RyanFeatherston

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ashupashu5559 I don't recall asking you anything.

  • @melvina628
    @melvina6283 жыл бұрын

    The networks won't be talking during this election. The stakes are too high. No politician should ever concede. Just let them count the votes.

  • @fascinujucedejinyuhorskeho4641
    @fascinujucedejinyuhorskeho46413 жыл бұрын

    Very nice reportage, as usual, thanks!

  • @000_leo
    @000_leo3 жыл бұрын

    "I don't think it really matters, the real result", what a son of a b....

  • @skrmacs4815
    @skrmacs48153 жыл бұрын

    Why does this man concluded "that no one question"

  • @ethancoster1324
    @ethancoster13243 жыл бұрын

    The popular vote means very little in the context of the electoral college system. So much for "we the people", it's more like, "we the sponsors".

  • @catsradicals2646
    @catsradicals26463 жыл бұрын

    basically we don't live in a true democratic country.

  • @suzyqualcast6269

    @suzyqualcast6269

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed...... You don't.

  • @clover831
    @clover8313 жыл бұрын

    @4:32 Now its the norm..

  • @ButchE30M3S14
    @ButchE30M3S143 жыл бұрын

    A few more votes and the Iraq and Afghan war wouldn't of happened... Comes to show every single vote counts...

  • @adorabasilwinterpock6035

    @adorabasilwinterpock6035

    3 жыл бұрын

    Afghan war wouldve still happened but not Iraq. So the world would have been a far better place without ISIS and so on

  • @XBR4Da

    @XBR4Da

    3 жыл бұрын

    And we would be in a much better situation regarding climate change. If only...

  • @ButchE30M3S14

    @ButchE30M3S14

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adorabasilwinterpock6035 Amen to that...

  • @Nichrysalis
    @Nichrysalis Жыл бұрын

    "critics say Trump could be shaping the narrative ahead of the election" Oh to be young again.

  • @floridaman_85_58
    @floridaman_85_583 жыл бұрын

    The hanging chad

  • @samuelbcn
    @samuelbcn3 жыл бұрын

    Pronunciation - It's elEctoral, not electOral

  • @rogerflatt8054
    @rogerflatt80543 жыл бұрын

    "nearly"

  • @brokenliterally
    @brokenliterally2 ай бұрын

    why did they reelect bush why

  • @giuliana413
    @giuliana4133 жыл бұрын

    Barry Richard HONESTLY thinks that it doesn’t really matters what the result would have been if the full recount had happened?!?! We could have had a different president, and most likely a completely different invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq! I was only 7 years old when this happened, and lived in extremely blue state of Connecticut at the time (and NOW I live it Florida where major voter suppression STILL exists in a variety of forms), and I’ve been majorly pissed off about the Supreme Court halting the full recount for 20 years!!! And now that I’ve been an active voter for almost 10 years...I’ve only seen the corruption and disenfranchisement in our electoral system grow out of control!!!

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs2 жыл бұрын

    Reminder that Electoral College is garbage (:-(

  • @jeffzest8393

    @jeffzest8393

    Жыл бұрын

    How would you change? Popular vote would disenfranchise small states. Should we also forgo two senators from each state regardless of population?

  • @nativearizona1
    @nativearizona13 жыл бұрын

    Popular vote is the real will of the People not Electrons & Neutrons!

  • @acegarcia3719
    @acegarcia37193 жыл бұрын

    One thing you have to understand is the Florida republican party is the best branch in the country. While changing demographics, northern migration, and subruban shifts towards democrats they just keep finding ways to win and since 2018 have controlled all major statewide offices and a solid majority in the state legislature and house of representatives seats.

  • @dreampoptelevision9431
    @dreampoptelevision94313 жыл бұрын

    This Channel 4 News report is FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN A U.S. ELECTION

  • @narcher91

    @narcher91

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope try again.

  • @fraserstewart7359

    @fraserstewart7359

    3 жыл бұрын

    What you on mate

  • @dreampoptelevision9431

    @dreampoptelevision9431

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fraserstewart7359 Is Channel 4 News an American owned media outlet?

  • @dreampoptelevision9431

    @dreampoptelevision9431

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ynwa6 I'm not American

  • @alexfernandohuenten1374
    @alexfernandohuenten13742 жыл бұрын

    Gore genial

  • @Robbie_-en7gp
    @Robbie_-en7gp3 жыл бұрын

    I was robbed

  • @DomhnallOSuileabhainPrin-tm1fw
    @DomhnallOSuileabhainPrin-tm1fw3 жыл бұрын

    British media is one big fake news lie

  • @keithedwinsmith9416
    @keithedwinsmith94163 жыл бұрын

    The electoral college was designed to keep the United States together. Without it the more populous states would always decide who the president was. The calls to scrap it in favour of the overall electorate would mean that the East and West coasts would impose a president on the central and southern states. This would inevitably lead to calls from some states to secede. The problem is a fundamental one with federal government.

  • @suzyqualcast6269

    @suzyqualcast6269

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ta from a 🇬🇧 watcher for that explanation of a baffling situation.

  • @tinoluck2381
    @tinoluck23813 жыл бұрын

    The American founding fathers are right and no change should be done.

  • @Zug75
    @Zug752 жыл бұрын

    and then their was 2000 mules, how ironic.

  • @RyanFeatherston

    @RyanFeatherston

    11 ай бұрын

    *There.

  • @nativearizona1
    @nativearizona13 жыл бұрын

    Do those Florida Cubans even know how to read, gosh they're so dumb!

  • @jacklewis3803
    @jacklewis38033 жыл бұрын

    If biden wins florida imma say he’ll win.

  • @samarmisra4922

    @samarmisra4922

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yet Biden lost FL and won the election at 303 beating Trump at 233ish

  • @Grason20

    @Grason20

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for late answer: Biden won without Florida.

  • @Ultizer

    @Ultizer

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Grason20 printing ballots pays off.

  • @edwinamendelssohn5129
    @edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын

    Can we get an unbiased story? Where's the counter balance?

  • @RyanFeatherston

    @RyanFeatherston

    11 ай бұрын

    JAQing off, I see...

  • @jasonlipscomb123
    @jasonlipscomb1232 жыл бұрын

    I wish gore won in 2000 and trump won in 2020. As you see these close elections were not in my favor.

  • @make_me7459

    @make_me7459

    2 жыл бұрын

    Highly disagree with trump. Only difference is Gore lost by 500 votes in 1 state. Trump lost by 11,000 votes in multiple states.

  • @nativearizona1
    @nativearizona13 жыл бұрын

    MAKE AMERICA BLUE AGAIN~USA_USA_USA_ALL THE WAY~ BIDEN/HARRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @girtisholland

    @girtisholland

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it’s going great isn’t it

  • @rebelking5773
    @rebelking57733 жыл бұрын

    TRUMP2020

  • @charlesshelton7989
    @charlesshelton7989Ай бұрын

    Al Gore should have won 2000 Donald Trump should have won 2020

  • @bigceazer
    @bigceazer3 жыл бұрын

    TRUMP 2020🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @lucius1976

    @lucius1976

    3 жыл бұрын

    To prison

  • @bigceazer

    @bigceazer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucius1976 to the white house. what crime has he committed?

  • @lucius1976

    @lucius1976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bigceazer Employing his family in gouvernment, paying almost zero income taxes, using gouvernment money to help is otherwise failing enterprises, using his power to influence justice investigations, publicly doubting he will recognize the result of the elections etc.

  • @bigceazer

    @bigceazer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucius1976 last time i checked its not a federal crime to have family working in a presidential administration. JFK had his brother in his administration when he was president. its not a crime idiot. you know nothing about US law. paying almost zero income taxes again not illegal, no laws broken you've seen his tax returns. he would be in jail right now if it was. having concerns about a potential fraudulent election result doesn't warrant an arrest you schmuck. once again you know nothing about the justice system in my country.

  • @saxglend9439
    @saxglend94393 жыл бұрын

    Impeach President Biden.