How the Europeans fought the Mongols - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY
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@abdulpipz2038
Жыл бұрын
Do a video about osman l and his early battles
@abdulpipz2038
Жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer lost against who?
@abdulpipz2038
Жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer osman 1 destroyed all his enemies
@dushyantyadav1099
Жыл бұрын
?
@Trever101
Жыл бұрын
Code POG 😭😭
The fact that 65 year-old Carpini went all the way to Karakoum to learn of the Mongols, traveled all the way home, wrote a report on how to successfully defeat the Mongols and the response from the European leaders was “Cool read but nah I’m good” is so real life.
@Darksky1001able
Жыл бұрын
@@Terminator47. My Mamluk brothers had to beat them back time and again. The Indians were the ones to truly beat them in open field battle.
@tanner1111
Жыл бұрын
@@Darksky1001able And now you all speak English so how did them wars really turn out for you?
@simbolicdunksman1746
Жыл бұрын
@tanner The insecurity is REAL 😬
@tanner1111
Жыл бұрын
@@simbolicdunksman1746 Yeah sure, im from a tiny little island nation on the edge of Europe that created the modern world but im insecure, sure pal.
@Doomseer
Жыл бұрын
@@tanner1111 Bro yes Europeans created the modern world but our ancestors didn't do it alone considering many different races aided in it's construction and fought and died in it's defense. We can both appreciate the amazing achievements of our ancestors while also recognizing all the other races who aided them throughout history in the making of the western world..
Spam watchtowers/keeps, invest in monks, trash units like hussars and halberdiers are a good investment, then challenge them on water maps.
@iownuallforever1
Жыл бұрын
Rip bozo ahh Mongols 💀💀
@Tragantar1310
Жыл бұрын
@Moon Bean too slow, they get outmanouvered by mangudai.
@mr.beanladen1469
Жыл бұрын
I missed playing AoE
@mackycabangon8945
Жыл бұрын
which european civs did this strat work best with?
@MrHerrkrabba
Жыл бұрын
@@SirMattomaton thrash as in no gold cost, not bad per se
'Do not chase fleeing Mongols' wisest words ever rendered.
@Blox117
5 ай бұрын
if you heavily outnumber them, then you sure can
@420frosty2
Ай бұрын
@@Blox117ambush cuzzie ambush
For those wondering how King Béla IV survived after the Battle of Mohi, he survived off an island off Croatia to ride out the Mongol follow up raids.
@georgethompson1460
Жыл бұрын
Didn't the mongols take massive casualties in Mohi? I remember reading up on it and apparently it was a close call for the Mongols. In the end it was the Chinese catapults that one the day rather than Mongol horse archers.
@RexAndAllen
Жыл бұрын
@george thompson they did because the mangudai got ambushed in the beginning by the crossbowmen and many of Batu's keshigg (keshik) bodyguards were killed by heavy knights. If the Austrian contingent didn't leave and the Cuman rebellion didn't occur, Batu's expedition would have ended much differently.
@tomislavkralj3214
Жыл бұрын
@@Cyricist001 Hey! I saw Klis Fortress ruins on my way from the Split air port. That place looks like it was pretty cool.
@zsaruultugs
Жыл бұрын
Kings Landing in GOT , right?
@ihatemotionblur_3255
Жыл бұрын
@@georgethompson1460 not as many as the europeans
Very fascinating. I live in Kraków, Poland and it is so bizarre to know the Mongols invaded and sacked this city twice!
@PobortzaPl
Жыл бұрын
Every day at noon a short tune is being played from a tower of Mariacki Church That tune is cut short on a single note. What has it to do with Mongols? Well, legend says this tune was played but a city watchman who had noticed Mongol raiding party. That tune was cut short when he was killed with an arrow to his neck.
@nickt3994
Жыл бұрын
@@PobortzaPl you'd think he'd know that. Expats are adorable.
@PobortzaPl
Жыл бұрын
@@nickt3994 Immigrants are great, especially when they turn into ambassadors of the country they moved into
@JustinQuilling
Жыл бұрын
@@nickt3994 Of course I know that.
@peterjanossy7033
Жыл бұрын
@@PobortzaPl No, the Noon bell across related to the 1456 victory of John Hunyadi over the Turks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1456)#Noon_Bell Pope Callixtus III ordered the bells of every European church to be rung every day at noon, as a call for believers to pray for the defenders of the city.[12][13] The practice of the noon bell is traditionally attributed to the international commemoration of the victory at Belgrade and to the order of Pope Callixtus III, since in many countries (like England and the Spanish Kingdoms) news of the victory arrived before the order, and the ringing of the church bells at noon was thus transformed into a commemoration of the victory.[14][15][16] The Pope didn't withdraw the order, and Catholic and the older Protestant churches still ring the noon bell to this day.[13][15][16][17] This custom still exists also among Protestant and Orthodox congregations. In the history of the University of Oxford, the victory was welcomed with the ringing of bells and great celebrations in England. Hunyadi sent a special courier, Erasmus Fullar, among others to Oxford with the news of the victory.[18]
Cappini: This is how you beat the Mongols." European lords: "I'm not paying for that." also European lords: *pays more for losses and for tribute*
@evanulven8249
Жыл бұрын
Pretty typical for political "leaders" up to and including the current day. Ignore the problem, let the people shoulder the bill, slap them down when they start demanding answers and action, say it was gods will.
@TheChimples
Жыл бұрын
@@evanulven8249 yeah exactly. the old "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"
@kunnu6752
Жыл бұрын
lmao
@TheChimples
Жыл бұрын
@Swarmpope there's a reason few people listened to it. Especially top level generals. The Mongols weren't serious about invading or occupying. They were little more than thieves and burglars at that point. The correct way to respond to thieves and burglars is to upgrade your defense and security. Hence walls, fortifications, castles and so on worked pretty good. That's why entire cities in Eastern Europe started to turn into completely walled up fortifications. To keep out the bandits and criminals.
@katrinegadegaard1241
Жыл бұрын
@Swarmpope Well he did come up with ideas on how to beat them in the field as well. Maybe it could have saved them a substantial amount of pillaging. Or maybe it would have been a complete disaster, who knows.
9:33 Carpini's suggestion for united defence against the Mongols is remarkably like a "Medieval NATO".
@italianspaghett4359
Жыл бұрын
yeah, his concepts were centuries ahead of his time. maybe that's why almost everyone ignored them
@Frozenmenss1
Жыл бұрын
The First Crusade was maybe the First "Medieval NATO" in the 11th century.
@gradipadia9800
Жыл бұрын
What about the Holy League?
@ziggytheassassin5835
Жыл бұрын
Thats kind of what the Catholic church was at that time.
@adamseidel9780
Жыл бұрын
I’m always massively impressed by anybody who went in search of data and studied the facts in such a modern way in the pre modern eras.
Great video! I would love to see more about Hungary, Nogai, the Cumans, and the Horde. In fact, could we see a video about what happened to the Cumans (there is, after all, a region called Cumania in the Kingdom of Hungary) in both the Christian and Islamic worlds? You guys do such a fantastic job.
@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
Жыл бұрын
There was a previous video I wrote on this channel focusing on Nogai's life and the invasions of Hungary and Poland after 1241. There's a few bits that are a little out of date now but it's still a serviceable overview. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aG1trbmqd8nSXdo.html
@Slashplite
Жыл бұрын
there should be dedicated video for Cumans, Kipchaks and Volga Bulgaria
@Cloud-dq1mr
Жыл бұрын
This video is about those very subjects, there are lots of other interesting topics to cover before you instantly ask for more of the same :)
@k.ztomigrad8697
Жыл бұрын
A part of the cumans took refuge in Hungarian kingdom and converted to Christianity, after some time they went over the mountains and made themself as the nobility over the region of Wallachia, during the wars with the Ottoman most of them were exterminated or became peasants, a few of them went to the German lands and joined various noble houses there.
@edenender
Жыл бұрын
My ancestors were Nogay horsemen. Proud of my ancestors.
Carpini is such a underestimated hero. What he did was amazing. They should make a film or series about this
@VSM101
Жыл бұрын
But the europeans lost lol
@marumi808
Жыл бұрын
@@VSM101 No "Europe" didn't lose. Mongols in fact carefully stayed away from going any further than East Europe. They mostly resorted to pillaging and raiding and stealing. Basically just trying to gain ground in Eastern Europe was costly to them and if they went any further West they would have met much stronger enemies and fortified land.
@donniepinns1472
Жыл бұрын
@@marumi808 The main problem to them wouldn't be stronger enemy but rather you have to consider at that point, the Mongol Empire was too big and thus too stretched, making administration and military logistics very difficult, cuz one fundamental thing you gotta understand that no matter how strong an army is, they're still humans, and so the further they travel, the costlier it becomes in terms of time and energy, hence a rapidly increasing demand for food and arms transportation as well as reinforcements.
@GermanEistee2000
Жыл бұрын
@@donniepinns1472 I think that this is definitely an important factor but another important factor is that the Europeans had a ton of fortifications, castles, mountains etc. Can one imagine the Mongols fighting and winning on an open plain, like Hungary? Yeah, sure. Can one imagine the Mongols fighting in the Alps or similar difficult terrain? Not really. Can one imagine the Mongols sieging big European castles? Also pretty unlikely, at least very costly and the Mongolian population was really low, they had to conserve their manpower and exploit their tactical advantage.
@donniepinns1472
Жыл бұрын
@@GermanEistee2000 You're right. Also, as I see it, fortifications shouldn't be too big of a problem for the Mongols, but rather, the sole factor that's the true pain in the ass for the Mongols is "difficult terrains", notably mountainous and forest-thick areas. I say this because, some people may overlook one point, that is the Mongol Empire wasn't just good at hit-and-run tactics, but they were nonetheless highly efficient in siege warfare as well. So, overall, they were well-operational in open plains, not too rugged geography. Take for example, the Dai Viet (Vietnam today) beat the Mongols convincingly 3 times with their utilising their natural rough terrains, which are lots of mountainous areas along with a dense coverage of tropical forests. The little Dai Viet country, though they did almost lose in the first Mongol invasion, also had excellent tactics and strategy that they combined Scorched Earth and Guerilla tactics to cause tremendous confusion and psychological distress for the Mongols, then they aimed at the enemy's food supplies, cutting them off for good, causing the enemy to starve slowly. All of that weakened and demoralized the Mongols greatly, allowing the little Dai Viet to launch devastating counter offenses which led to those 3 humiliating defeats for the Mongols.
Another great video and also about a part of Europe that isn't often covered as much. Keep up the great work!
@BattleHistories
Жыл бұрын
@@Xelief The way we perceive history doesn't mean it can't be covered or talked about. All aspects of history can be learned from in my opinion
@jhonjhon3715
Жыл бұрын
@@Xelief a small country like Hungary defeating the Mongols is embarrassing? Please
@thalmoragent9344
Жыл бұрын
@@SithStudy To be fair, often times the Mongols didn't need too... they had their way with most all the walled cities they ran across in Asia and the Middle East
@albarmy1
Жыл бұрын
@@Xelief the smallest and poorest of european countries beat the sh.t out of them . Get over it hater, we just built different
@georgethompson1460
Жыл бұрын
@@thalmoragent9344 castles are strategically different in that they allow for a defense in depth, where the mobile element of neighbouring castles (knights) can harass besiegers attacking a single castle.
09:47 This is probably the BEST advice for fighting the Mongols that anyone can get, hands down.
@largestudent198
Ай бұрын
By then, Mongolia tolerated religious freedom. The common people, the farmers and merchants and soldiers, would have all lived if kings and dukes did not order them to die for war. The lesson here is that bureaucrats would lie and kill humans just to retain their lofty livelihood. I hate bureaucrats.
This mongol series is one of the very best. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️🇱🇰.
Carpini: *Writes the most detailed and comprehensive strategy for battling the Mongols* European leaders: *Ignore it*
@abelsoo5465
Жыл бұрын
European leaders are either fighting against each other or crusading in the Middle East or North Africa.
@viclorenzo5016
Жыл бұрын
@@abelsoo5465 Yep, that too.
@SimpleNobody2420
Жыл бұрын
Not that surprising considering during this time, France and England were at war for years, The Pope & the Holy Roman Emperor still don't like each other, and worse of all the fourth crusade basically killed any unity between western & eastern Christianity. So they are very lucky that the Khan drink himself to death or else he would of conquering all the way to Spain, though probably not England since they rarely won naval battles.
@GrandDukeMushroom
Жыл бұрын
it would cost 50 administrative points and 500 ducats.. no way the horde is gonna boom into europe..
@riccardocirielli
Жыл бұрын
Europeans: *succed anyway*
Batu Khan sent a message to Frederick II of the Holy Roman Empire who was solidifying his grip on Sicily asking for his submission. He trolled him in response saying "he would gladly be his falconer". At the same time, Frederick II stocked up on crossbows and provisioned his castles.
Carpini was literally the OG commander Shepard.
@Talyrion
Жыл бұрын
Though if we push the analogy, this would have made for a wild twist in Mass Effect. Basically, you'd have the Council ignore Shepard - as is tradition - and then... the Reapers show up and get defeated by the Batarians, or something. "Oh. So they were real, huh. Well, I guess the problem's solved anyway."
@Jakalbow
Жыл бұрын
Glad I wasn’t the only one that saw the similarity.
@perrytran9504
Жыл бұрын
"Ah yes, 'Tartars' - the immortal race of sentient nomads allegedly waiting in the East. We have dismissed that claim."
Another great video, K&G. This channel is my go-to channels for military history. Every evening I put a playlist together for that night and K&G vids are always at the top. Every time another K&G video comes out it just makes my day. Thanks. Cheers.
Channels such as K&Gs, has greatly expanded my knowledge of history. This video alone is jam packed with understanding the time period. I suppose to know history is to know war. Well done K&G as always
@wd2862
Жыл бұрын
the Teutonic Knights never fought with the Mongols, Polish knights fought with them. Don't fake history.
@joenichols3901
Жыл бұрын
@@wd2862 I have no idea about any of that.
I personally applaud what Carpini was doing on behalf of all of Europe. It's a shame his suggestions were largely ignored. Great video.
Not many people mention that Mongols had a conflict with Serbia. During the first raids they plundered Serbia, but later during the rule of Saint King Milutin he defeated their units, who probably weren't numerous like in other campaigns and more or less acted as mercenaries or allies for their vassals. But he defended the country nonetheless and avoided destruction when he sent his maybe illegitimate son who would become king in the future as a hostage. I also think that some Cumans fled to Serbia as well. There are traces of them in the names of some villages. So, all in all. Thanks for mentioning that minor event.
@danielzhang1916
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised, most Cumans fled to Hungary, the Bulgarian Empire, and the Byzantine Empire
@briantuk3000
Жыл бұрын
can you provide examples of those names?
@TotilaTheGoth
Жыл бұрын
@@briantuk3000 Kumanica village, as well as a monastery. You have Okanović surname which I read somewhere that it was of Cuman origin(Okan). I remember there were a few more villages but I can't remember the names now. However, most of those Cumans who moved to Serbia, were settled in the territory of present day North Macedonia since back in those times it was ruled by the Serbs. Town of Kumanovo is the best example of that. But there are some other minor as well.
@TotilaTheGoth
Жыл бұрын
@@briantuk3000 But the Cuman influence in medieval Serbia was nowhere near as close or significant as was in medieval Hungary or Bulgaria who even had Cuman dynasties ruling them.
@ministarstvoistine3109
Жыл бұрын
The Mongols are Serbs 🤣🤣
One of the most dominant and the largest land empire and I find it surprising that other history channels hardly covers it. It will be great if more channels starts covering more about Mongols, Chinese, egyptians and Indians.
@kompatybilijny9348
Жыл бұрын
It's because English sources are extremely, EXTREMELY hermetic and self centered, so when anyone attempts to make such a video they can not even find sources.
@tomasgogashvily5350
Жыл бұрын
@@kompatybilijny9348 Wow. Really... All that source comes from Wiki unless you believe that Wikipedia is an evil Capitalist Liberal Gay Plot of Human Alien Lizards to install chips into your brain and use them to buy consumer products, so you could die at 100 years old, taking further a 100 pills a day to make money off you.
@ketzer4
Жыл бұрын
There's a Chanel called Khan's Den, he makes videos about Steppe people, mostly about Turkic culture but also Mongols and other nations from the steppe and empires that had interacted with them like China, Korea and European/byzantine empire. If you are interested in a part of history that isn't covered at all in the west, maybe that chanel provides something new und interesting for you.
@0Turbox
Жыл бұрын
Most of this land was steppe or desert.
@smarthungyo
Жыл бұрын
@@0Turbox you have such a skewed view. No western powers comes close to The Mongols when it comes to explosive power. Those horse archers from the steppe decimated middle east and cut their way into Eastern Europe.
This channel is amazing. Thank you for existing!
The monk reminds me of Robert baratheon telling cersei Lannister what would happen if they simply hid in their castles whilst the dothraki ruined the kingdoms.
@jimmythe-gent
Жыл бұрын
George is a student of history, and the dothraki are obviously based on the Mongols.
@user-rd1hy8ll3l
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmythe-gent Indeed he is but the Dothraki are predominantly a representation of the Scythians and other Turkic steppe warriors. The Jogos Nhai and their wars with Yi Ti are however reminiscent of Imperial China vs the Mongols.
@jimmythe-gent
Жыл бұрын
@@user-rd1hy8ll3l Ah, interesting. I kind of forget, but did the dothraki primarily use horse archers when they fought? I know they used the arakh/khopesh, but I forget about that
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmythe-gent They are partly based on the Mongols but the reality was that the Mongols were no threat to Europe. The problem with the Dothraki is that they are fantasy and impossible to know exactly what they could and could not do.
It's been a while since I saw a video about the Mongols on this channel! Thank you for bringing the subjects related to Mongols back!
@ 12 mins: Wow, I'm really impressed! That was some really good, detailed, practical and tactical advise he gave! I would feel much more confident going up against the extremely scary Mongols after having read this set of instructions!
Thanks for the video I'm currently fighting the Mongols in medieval 2 total war so this is great to go along with that.
@mitchellbrough1615
Жыл бұрын
Spam armor upgraded mailed knights
The ammount of knowledge and information in these videos is outstanding. By far one of the most detailed and knowledgeable channels i have come across. Keep up the great work.
I heard Frederick II, HRE, ordered the construction and expansion of new castles and fortifications and the stockpiling of crossbows. Although the Mongol threat came late in his Reign.
Thanks for the very detailed history of the aftermath of initial invasion. This helps put their influence in a longer perspective of a clash of cultures across time
Yes, more Mongols series please. its so interesting and inspiring. and please introduce more about Caghadai khanate, which is also very important for the world history, especially very significant for where is todays turkistan, afghanistan, pakistan, and india area.
@Temuulen.J
Жыл бұрын
Tsagadai* khanate
@danielzhang1916
Жыл бұрын
we know it as the Chagatai Khanate here in the West
@apexnext
Жыл бұрын
my thoughts: _New K&G today, I will watch it later.._ K&G: *Mongols* _watches instantly_
A favourite tactic of Byzantines during their low point against the Arabs (AD 600-800), was to ambush the booty-laden retiring invaders. And yes, the Byzantines also employed mounted armoured lancers with rear rank unarmoured archers, something they learnt from the Huns and other steppe people's
@georgethompson1460
Жыл бұрын
European armies often used mounted crossbowmen in a ratio of 1-4 with their knights to screen against opposing cav.
@senadneslan1563
Жыл бұрын
good tatcic for no exsit 🤣😂
@rayzas4885
Жыл бұрын
@@Terminator47. they have turkic blood but that's not the same as being turkish. Turks are just another Turkic ethnic group sadly for you nationalist
@basedchad6035
Жыл бұрын
Is it really the only way to counter horse archers with.... horse archers? Common that cant be it.
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
Byzantium was a failed culture.
Fantastic documentary. Not many videos about the response to the initial Mongol invasions.
An interesting take on things, but I'm not sure I agree. Bela did enact a lot of reforms and it is quite likely they worked. The internet people you say disagree with you are not just on the internet, there are real scholarly books that take the same viewpoint that you disagree with.
@Hungabrigoo
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's like he assumes Carpinis (who takes up half the video btw.) assessment was perfect and everyone who did not follow his suggestions automatically failed. It is pretty weird. Also the Hungarian Kingdom pulling through the second invasion relatively intact is well documented.
@TheJPworld
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Love this channel, but sometimes they post some pretty mediocre videos and outright pass their personal interpretations as facts. The make it sound as if Europeans were too incompetent and greedy to succesfully repel Mongol invasions after 1240s, even though that is literally what they did. They also try to discredit the success of Bela's reforms as self-glorifying propaganda when the Second Mongol Invasion of Hungary happened well after he was dead, so that doesn't even make sense.They gloss over a LOT of information to "debunk" this well-known European victory.
Actually there is known how Lithuanians fought Mongols in Rus principalities. For example Grand duke of Lithuania Gediminas in battle of Blue Waters used a curved line formation of 6 columns that prevented Mongols to outflank Lithuanian troops. Other sources mention that Lithuanian infantry used to form a defensive circle of shields and used their pikes to strike against mounted Mongols cavalry. It shows that Eastern Europeans studied mongols warfare and adopted successful tactics to win battles.
@CJ-fs1zr
7 ай бұрын
The Golden Horde is not the same as mongol empire lol Golden Horde was a rump state Mongol empire wouldn’t easily crushed all of europe if they didn’t fall apart from infighting
@lionljb
7 ай бұрын
@@CJ-fs1zr "Easily crushed all of europe" is not very likely. While they were effective at battles and managed to burned down wodden castles and layed siege to for short durations, stone castles where a problem for such a large army. The mongols army lived off the land they raided, besieging a castle for a duration of time was not their style of fighting, in the east they sometimes had to move on when a siege took too long. The holy roman empire had the fighting problem of not being able to rally a big army from so many states, but all those independent duchies and kingdoms led to them each building their own castles and strongholds. The mongols would have had to besiege several castles to conquer a small area. Historians estimate that there were around 10000-25000 castles in the HRE several thousand of them being built from stone, far more than in eastern europe. It would have been very costly with many civilians being killed or enslaved, but behind the HRE there would have been the far more centralized France to be faced. The Geography of Central and Western europe was also a big challenge as there were many vast forests, marshes and rivers, the Mongols had the primary goal of conquering the Eurasian Steppe after all
@CJ-fs1zr
7 ай бұрын
@@lionljb They had Chinese and Persian siege engineers best of their times Stop coping with muh castles and muh climate Southern China had tropical climate and many more fortifications and they conquered China If they can reach Poland within a year of conquest of europe then all of europe had no chance given the fact it took a decade too conquer Persia while it took decades too conquer China Maybe ten years max for europe being conquered and that’s me being generous this isn’t biased it’s just very obvious Saying the opposite is biased and probably from westerners who can’t cope
@lionljb
7 ай бұрын
@@CJ-fs1zr please don't tell me you compare a medieval european castle, situated on a hill/mountain or in a lake, with a chinese walled city (some with dirt wallls). The Mongol conquest of South Korea was slow bc there were sturdy defenses. At Esztergom the mongols managed to breach the wodden city wall after a lenghty siege, but the population had burned all houses and taken all valuables retreating into the stone citadel, which the mongols were unable to take. i recommend watching Kings and Generals video about the mongol army, especially the chapter concerning siege warfare
@CJ-fs1zr
7 ай бұрын
@@lionljb You’re relying only on Kings and Generals who I have watched and the vids were western cope. Even whatifalthist a very pro western KZreadr admits Europe would’ve been done for. Persia and China had walled fortresses 🤣. Even hypothetically they can’t breach all they’re just gon starve up there? Yes cause they went all the way through bulgar region and Central Europe in one year including destroying knights cavalry divisions with minimal casualties and Muh Castles will stop them. Go on alt history boards and look at th arguments. It’s so obvious and the only people denying only bring up Golden Horde second invasion, castles, and climates 💀. Explain the first invasion and why europe was destroyed hmmm Hungary btw was powerful during that time period and had the ooga boots castles 🤣
Carpini was a good man, who wanted to save lives and defend Europe from those whom he saw as evil invaders. He saw the devastation the Mongols brought and heard firsthand accounts from those who survived, and wrote down everything he could think of into a practical Guidebook to preserve life and stand against the Horde. Yet, like most good men, Greed, Selfishness and the Disunity among the rulers of his day ruined and squandered his ideas. So saddening to see, and even more saddening how unsurprising such a result was. All in all, amazing Video as always K&G!
Caroline is the best argument against time travel to tell ancient people how to beat their foes. They didn’t listen even to their contemporaries.
Can you make a video about mongol invasion of Korea or Java?
What the Mongols has done has never been done before and will never again be repeated. The most underrated empire in mankind history.
@christianmorales5744
Жыл бұрын
Have you any any idea? They conquered the world.
@stephenmulligan7413
Жыл бұрын
Arguably the most powerful empire on the planet of ancient times was Roman Empire.
@TheGatsby1986
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmulligan7413 Chinese empires were always far stronger... if they went 1v1 they would have been wrecked... Atila the hun sacked europe because the Han empire pushed them west
@artificialintelligence200
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmulligan7413about power Roman empire is non comparable to mongols Mongols fought Chinese,Koreans,Samurai,Europian knights,Kievan Rus,Hashashins(assassins),Muslims west to east of known world and most powerful of that time. Thing is western media dont like mongols so they make it look like they are just barbarians. If learn about mongols little U will know the answer
@_zqn
Жыл бұрын
@@artificialintelligence200 Romans fought Italics, Greeks, North-Italic Celtics, Carthaginians, Illyrians, Berbers, Iberians, Armenians, Persians, Arabs, Hebrews, Parthians, Dacians, Germanic peoples, Gauls, Britons, Picts, Caledonii, Scythians and Im missing. What are you trying to prove? Also the roman empire lasted for 1000 years.
One of my favorite videos on history as of this year XD, keep up thr good work and interesting topics guys ❤
Excellent job guys! I've long been interested in this subject.
Could we get a video on Grand duchy of Lithuania,and Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth (European Union predecessor) please? Great content in your videos,great job guys,time watching them isn’t time wasted 👍
Really digging the new K & G style!!
@jackmiller1561
Жыл бұрын
Loving your history videos man!
Nice video. Very well made and very informative. Thank you
Thank you. I learn immensely with your videos - history's
I hope for great expansion of all its content the best history channel by far there is not enough time in a day for such a great channel
@maketaco6683
Жыл бұрын
remarkable production value
Surprised you didn't bring up the numerous loses the horde had against invading Lithuania with the Golden Horde eventually falling to Grand Duke Algirdas' conquests Also 18:50 shows a Teutonic knight for some reason when Lithuanians were skilled at light cavalry and ambushing which they had used against the crusaders beforehand
@Comrade_Marius
Жыл бұрын
We tend to be overlooked, especially on this channel 💀
@hurinthalion2571
Жыл бұрын
@@Comrade_Marius Yeah I agree, Lithuanian history is great and very underrated.
@gentlemanskier3107
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Battle of blue waters was influential! Mes lietuviai turime garbingą istoriją
@beskidwood
Жыл бұрын
I got here, in the section of comments to mention that I was also surprised in negative way that video authors showed Teutonic Knights (who wanted to kill... I mean to convert into christianity Lithuanias). I love this channel, but this passage was a failure. And btw. Perhaps one of the reasons why there is so little about the history of Lithuenia is a shortage of sources, especially on prechristian period? And if you can recommend any YT channels in english about history of Lithuenia (in emglish) I would be happy to visit them. Regards from Poland
@albarmy1
Жыл бұрын
@@Comrade_Marius shhhh gotta make mongols look strong and cool and europeans weak and hopeless. We know facts point that europeans crushed them without even trying
Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!! Is this so hard to understand????
4:17 Really like that you used a model from Mordhau, the game has a variety of many armor, nice to see the game being used as a template in this channel
Uh, Teutonic Knights represented as knights from Poland or Duchy of Lithuania, this is quite a good example of miss-information
@Jakalbow
Жыл бұрын
I doubt that was intentional but I was a little disappointed that their contribution wasn’t mentioned in spite of them being used in the thumbnail.
Apart from the publication of both Franciscans "De itinere Fratrum Minorum ad Tartaros", there is also a separate description of Mongalorum prepared by Benedictus Polonus (traveling with Carpini) "Relatio fratris Benedicti Poloni".
This video was very satisfying, especially the part about Giovanni da Pian del Carpine.
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Thanks for the interesting video. The correct name of the franciscan friar is Giovanni di Pian del Carpine. Pian del (or "di") Carpine is an old town (today its name is Magione, in Umbria, central Italy) of Etruscan origin. The name seems to derive from the name of an Etruscan family "Carpnti", later in Latin "Carpinius". Giovanni was born in Magione, in 1252.
Great video. Got very interested in the Mongols and their history after reading Conn Iggulden's book series about the life of Ghengis Khan, and then his series on the Romans and the life of Gaius Julius Ceasar. Great series if anyone like based on history novels.
I Always Enjoy Yout Well Documented Stories Of History
another great video. i am watching 2 or 3 a day.
Nice video !! How do research so fast on such broad and historic topics ?! Your videos are info bombs
@KingsandGenerals
Жыл бұрын
Good team
@user-hx2xl2km2e
Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals You could have mentioned Ivaylo the peasant Tsar.
I was reading old book ones ,about great duel between Gengis Khans elder son Jochis and Lithuanian lowlander (zemaitis). Witch Jochis lost with sustaining mortal injuries, he gave his golden sword to winner. That stopped Mongols from invading Lithuania.
@obeselord9501
Жыл бұрын
so bro sacrificed his life and gave his sword to the mr khan man to stop the invasion?
@redbear1935
Жыл бұрын
@@obeselord9501 no, Gengis Khans son lost a duel to Lithuanian fighter . He gave his sword to the winner. I believe there was some kind of agreement before duel.
@batukaganbat6093
Жыл бұрын
do you have source?
@ShesMongolianASMR
Жыл бұрын
@@batukaganbat6093 no, they never do 🤣
@abduleve8688
Жыл бұрын
@@ShesMongolianASMR Mongols sucked in close combat, especially if the Lithuanian had armor. Monks are good with horses but one on one there is a high chance like over 70%chance they'd lose
exquisite content, as usual.
This has explained a great deal to me. Especially regarding the large amount of Pagans in Hungary. Fantastic video. Subbed.
7:25 if I’m not completely mistaken, by this point this had actually been the fifth time the pope/s had excommunicated Emperor Frederic, but he just didn’t give a f
@drstrangelove4998
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
Wonderful video as usual! European lessons learned and at least intended reforms are not something I had learned about before.
❤❤total war attila main theme in the background is awsome+ perf vid👌👌
Thank you , K&G . 🐺
Carpini: "Here's your Zombie Apocalypse Survival Guide"
@Raed8792
Ай бұрын
😂
Old man travels long distances to write a sound battle plan, gets ignored.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Just found this channel and it's impressive. 😊
Carpini's courageous efforts reminds me of so many other times in history that method and cooperative strategy has been spread to no avail. If it doesn't effect them where they are right now the don't care.
Interesting video, I was always under the opinion that the Byzantine Empire bore the brunt force of the golden horde initially and then followed the path of appeasement to the Khan.
Nothin like losing a battle to assist with getting your game up. FEAR is the great motivator.
Love the accidental Partridge in pondering what to cook the Mongols for dinner. Keep them coming!
I think it's a bit silly to speak about Polish and Lithuanian conquests in the XIV centuries and put the Teutonic-like Knights in the background...
I get vibes from game of thrones when robert told cersei how to battle the dothraki.
Love what you guys do! Thanks for all the history!
Loved this! Thanks
The Romans were we versed in how to defeat Steppe Horse Archers. It is unfortunate that the collective knowledge of a 1000 years of campaigning against the latter was scattered following 1204. Had the 4th Crusade not torn the heart of the Byzantine Empire, much could have been learned from them and used during the first invasions.
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
All European kingdoms at that stage understood how to deal with hordes. Those on the Eurasian plain simply were not equipped and were on the fringes of European culture.
@ohauss
Жыл бұрын
The Romans had plenty of difficulties against highly mobile armies. And it seems you miss that the Byzantine Empire ebbed and rose time and again throughout its history.
@hangten1904
7 ай бұрын
This was the dark ages, all the knowledge of Rome and Classical Era was forgotten until the Renaissance.
@jaelee1996
6 ай бұрын
@@hangten1904That is actually not true. Mongol invasions were around the 13th century, which would be considered high middle ages. Dark ages is also known as late antiquity, the years after the fall of the Western Romans. There was a decrease in art and science due to lack of centralized government with funding to support such endeavors, but by no means were arms race and warfare forgotten. Armor and weapons continued to develop along with tactics.
Your graphics are so good please let me know, how you make your maps, and which software do you use to edit your videos?
great video as always
I liked the advertisement beginning with chopping an onion, I thought you were going to mention how to deal with the mongols using these knives. But it was a happy ending.
Before the rise of Genghis Khan Mongolic was spreading at westward and absorbing Turkic speakers (Janhunen, 2008). During the Mongol expansion, Turkic speakers whose tribes and states had been incorporated into the Mongol empire were so much more numerous than Mongols that, although Mongolian was the language of command, it was Turkic rather than Mongolic speech that was chiefly spread across Central Asia and the central and western steppe.
At some point it would be really good to draw a line between the trauma inflicted on the Russian psyche by the Mongol devastation and the later development of national defense doctrine promoting the preemptive annexation of surrounding territory to incorporate natural barriers and focus ground forces on more easily defended choke points, such as the Bessarabian Gap in western Ukraine. It goes a long way toward adding context to the current war and could be an interesting side note to your next episode on the subject.
@AntonAdelson
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@rayzas4885
Жыл бұрын
Russia developed that doctrine in response to western Europe's aggression against it and not the Mongols
@AntonAdelson
Жыл бұрын
@@rayzas4885 Explanation please
@wurzelbert84wucher5
Жыл бұрын
@@AntonAdelson Nato expansion to the russian borders, regime change in Kiev 2014 etc.
@AntonAdelson
Жыл бұрын
@@wurzelbert84wucher5 That's not true. There was no nato expansion before 2014. Only after Russia invaded Crimea and Donbass Ukraine asked for Natos help. Also Ukrainians are free to choose their own leaders without Russia's approval.
It's truly incredible once you look back in history, seemingly unbeatable empires rise snd fall. It makes me think which one is next, there's new types of empires. It used to be about land, now its about control over tech and markets
@zoybean
Жыл бұрын
The usa. It was defeated by Afghans who had neither tech, and had a much smaller market and landmass. The usa used to have a surplus but after 9/11 they lost a huge amount of money in war and have a big debt
@AwankO
Жыл бұрын
@@zoybean Most of the debt owed is to its own self to the central bank. A small percentage is also held by foreign nations, however. As for Afghanistan, it was a political defeat at home and the ineptness of the local military there, along with corruption in the Afghan government. Definitely not a military defeat, the Taliban were pushed out into the fringes, if not for Pakistan allowing the Taliban safe haven, they likely would have been made an insignificant factor.
@artair70
Жыл бұрын
@@zoybean No, defeated? Certainly not.
@Steven9567
Жыл бұрын
@@AwankO not to mention the elites in america don't care about winning they want americas best to die and excuse to expand their power
@Chris-ey8zf
11 ай бұрын
@Qasim Choudhery Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires for a reason. British Empire, USSR, America, etc all failed. There's nothing of value there, so it's just a money pit. The people are backwards, the culture is toxic, and the country is more or less only a thing due to borders others made for them. Afghans themselves have no national identity. It's a lost cause to ever go there.
That segue into the ad was such a glorious 180-turn that it almost snapped my neck 😂
European stone castles, more or less social and ethnic peace, scorched earth strategy and guerrilla warfare. This is how Europeans defeated the Mongols. Actually even the 1242 Mongol invasion was a resounding defeat. They set out to conquer Europe and only managed to get Bulgaria as a vassal.
@albarmy1
Жыл бұрын
Muh Mongols 🤣 truth is nobody gave a f about them. They lost to tiny kingdoms of Europe. Imagine facing the Holy Roman Empire
@peterjanossy7033
Жыл бұрын
@Swarmpope Sorry but territory of contemporary France was not bigger than Hungary and its dependencies.
@locatemarbles
Жыл бұрын
@Swarmpope, re-read what I wrote. All of the above are necessary, you can't pick and choose. The chinese walls were inferior to the European castles ,but that was not the reason they lost. Social and ethnic peace, scorched earth strategy and guerrilla warfare are needed too. The Koreans came close to what the Europeans did. They eventually lost to the Mongols because their country is isolated and facing starvation. The people themselves (although up to this point victorious against the Mongols) demanded from the Korean leadership to surrender.
@Hungabrigoo
Жыл бұрын
@@albarmy1 Bruh, they concuered CHINA. Also the HRE was not that strong to begin with.
@omarshakkur9551
Жыл бұрын
Subutai with his 20k was hanging around however, whenever he wants, 6 european kingdoms piecemeal, seriously bro? From Russia to Vienna fake retreat all day long lmao Are u serious? Lmao
You must named the video : the clash of Europeans between themself during the mongol invasion
Damn this was really well done. Man I love this channel.
Daniil and his brother beat Quremsa (Orda's son) several times with his troops. In the winter of 1254-1255, Daniil organized campaigns in Podolia and Bolokhov land and expelled the basqaqs from there in 1255. The plan to march on Kyiv was thwarted by the invasion of the Lithuanians near Lutsk (after they received permission from the Pope in the same year to fight the Ruthenian lands). Therefore, Boroldai was sent from the Horde to maintain the "Tatar prestige". In 1258, the Romanovichs were forced to go with him to Lithuania, but I think because of their frequent attacks, Daniil was not opposed.
Before James Bond, we had Caprini.
Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
@feerlemon1181
2 ай бұрын
Those “turks” are turkic tribes of the mongolian land that became mongols, so they weren’t considered turkic anymore. So its the same army
Excellent Episode.
I think the shield you use as an icon for the battles is upside down. The Tree of Life has leaves which usually point the other way...
Still in awe that Rome also saw the rise and arrival of the Mongols.
@rayzas4885
Жыл бұрын
@Aaron Cohen the Roman empire
If you can capture Mongols in a pitched battle with heavy cavalry, they aren't so invincible.
@g392_cs_echo5
Жыл бұрын
@@rascalferret I beg to differ. If I recall correctly, the Poles figured that out. Pretty handily. And the eastern knights also did feigned retreats. Pretty sure they basically massacred an entire Golden Horde army with said tactics.
@g392_cs_echo5
Жыл бұрын
@@rascalferret Exactly. Proper chat mate 👍
13:00 - I can see the evolution and emergence of several European weapons in this. While not completely so of course, many suggestions seemed to be implemented and show up. Billhooks, long axes, crow's beaks, halberds, warhammers, ways to dismount foes and defeat heavy armor, supporting soldiers with bows and crossbows as separate forces, applying heavy usage of resources to ranged combat and heavily armoring up knights.
Great video, thanks!
Can we have more videos based around the kingdoms of Africa? Ps great video.
Results was like after Viking and Hungarian invasions in West-Europe: built up network of stone fortresses, castles fortified(Roman style!) churches. That was working in 1285. In 1241-42 Mongols didn't attack Bohemia because already existed this fortress network, and Western Hungarian stone fortresses successfully defended themselves. There were a plenty of places where Mongols failed: by swamps of Vietnam, the sea by Japan, by the Mameluks(Mameluk leader knew the Mongolian tactics).
@peterjanossy7033
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. There were not much stone castles in W Europe before the late 12th century.
@laistvan2
Жыл бұрын
@@peterjanossy7033Ok. It is true. Most of the parts buit from wood and earth. One suggestion is that these castles were built particularly in order to protect against external attack - the Angevins, it is argued, began to build them to protect against the Viking raids, and the design spread to deal with the attacks along the Slav and Hungarian frontiers.[45] Another argument is that, given the links between this style of castle and the Norman style, who were of Viking descent, it was in fact originally a Viking design, transported to Normandy and Anjou.[46] The motte-and-bailey castle was certainly effective against assault, although as historian André Debord suggests, the historical and archaeological record of the military operation of motte-and-bailey castles remains relatively limited. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_castle
That was a damn wholesome plug right there.
Smoothest transition to promotion/ad ive ever seen