How the Catholic Church censored Hollywood's Golden Age

For decades Hollywood studios needed to follow a strict set of moral guidelines if they wanted their movies to get made.
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From 1934 to 1954 every Hollywood movie needed to follow a strict set of guidelines laid out by the Catholic church. They included such things as barring excessive drinking, on screen nudity, and even sexual relationships between races. Enforcement was overseen by the Production Code administration, which was led by Joseph Breen. In order to ensure that the production code was followed the Catholic Church founded the Legion of Decency, a group with millions of members that threatened to boycott any movie that didn’t adhere to the guidelines. For decades every line of dialogue needed to be approved by Breen and his administration, making him one of the most powerful people in the history of cinema.
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  • @Vox
    @Vox6 жыл бұрын

    The Hays Code left its mark on cinema, but the invention of technicolor revolutionized it. The Wizard of Oz was a prime example. Watch our video here: bit.ly/2GPLmK2

  • @repivonex

    @repivonex

    6 жыл бұрын

    And the Golden Compass (sequel)

  • @bonniea8189

    @bonniea8189

    6 жыл бұрын

    The timeline presented of how the code came to be doesn't work: Herbert Hoover was POTUS until 1932, when FDR took office. The stock market crash that precipitated the start of The Great Depression was in August 1929. The New Deal programs started in 1933, which is the same year the League of Decency formed. This video says the studios voluntarily adopted The Production Code out of fear of regulation by FDR's administration "but then in 1930 The Great Depression hit". So the expert's claim that fear of interference from the FDR administration drove the studios doesn't make sense because it didn't exist yet.

  • @marcusvachon845

    @marcusvachon845

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vox Why didn't you speak of the Hayes Code until your comment? It is my understanding that this censorship occurred because of a man named of Hayes.

  • @FailMatt

    @FailMatt

    6 жыл бұрын

    actually the Hays Code was just a suggestion that Will Hays sent to producers, no one followed it though (I'm pretty upset they didn't mention it in this video though too)

  • @marcusvachon845

    @marcusvachon845

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matt Tobin Okay, thank you for the clarification.

  • @ashleys1145
    @ashleys11456 жыл бұрын

    No wonder the movies of the 70's after the code days had so much sex and violence.

  • @acdragonrider

    @acdragonrider

    3 жыл бұрын

    How far we have fallen.

  • @popefrancis8153

    @popefrancis8153

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes humans have issues sometimes

  • @josephpeters7627

    @josephpeters7627

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Cardboard Cape To little violence in film?

  • @lucascesar029

    @lucascesar029

    2 жыл бұрын

    And no wonder how people today are so sexually degenerated leading to fewer families.

  • @joshpritt2146

    @joshpritt2146

    4 ай бұрын

    I love the 70s and 80s movies

  • @LudicrousPlatypus
    @LudicrousPlatypus6 жыл бұрын

    White slavery was basically the term used back then for human trafficking or sexual slavery. I understand it is a racialised term, but I think focusing on the race aspect discredits the fact that portraying sexual slavery on screen would still be seen as morally wrong today.

  • @tompeled6193

    @tompeled6193

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only glorifying it.

  • @quikskoprbro968

    @quikskoprbro968

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a source for that?

  • @davidjones8043

    @davidjones8043

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quikskoprbro968 yea your mom

  • @sunilkumaryadav2183

    @sunilkumaryadav2183

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quikskoprbro968 actually when i searched in google . it show exact result. just search white slavery meaning

  • @nohbuddy1
    @nohbuddy16 жыл бұрын

    Weird how a country with vast anti catholic sentiment would take their guidelines

  • @TheBespectacledN00b

    @TheBespectacledN00b

    6 жыл бұрын

    AmericanNohbuddy ™ A lot of rural Protestants were upset about the content of films as well.

  • @poofbomb-minecraftmore1883

    @poofbomb-minecraftmore1883

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well humans are incompetent at following simple instructions like *sticking together* so.... that wasn't going to happen....

  • @1squeamishneophyte

    @1squeamishneophyte

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice copypasta, bro. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWyFp5ZmcqjfZKg.html

  • @Prouser2024

    @Prouser2024

    6 жыл бұрын

    because catholics and protestants share a lot in common in a moral standpoint

  • @jon-unicorn-doxxer

    @jon-unicorn-doxxer

    6 жыл бұрын

    Money Maker Christians stick together I guess...

  • @Mortebianca
    @Mortebianca6 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, the Legion was never officially recognized by the Church, and While it proclaimed to "Work" for the Church, it was in fact just a loose confederation of catholic americans promoting the "American Catholicism", which is the most conservative and puritan version of catholicism possible. In fact, the Church never talked about decency in movies or censoring them. It was just some catholic's opinion on those issue. See, for example, how those two believed that interracial unions were "unholy" even tho, for a Catholic, they are not evil at all.

  • @uItimatewarrior

    @uItimatewarrior

    6 жыл бұрын

    suuuure it wasnt

  • @sgmii3060

    @sgmii3060

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Catholic Church- outside of America- is an entirely different beast

  • @MrStephenRGilman

    @MrStephenRGilman

    6 жыл бұрын

    w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_29061936_vigilanti-cura.html

  • @sgmii3060

    @sgmii3060

    6 жыл бұрын

    MrStephenRGilman Encyclicals are not official statements of the church. Only the Guy in charge at the time. Historically, most encyclicals are about how the other encyclicals are wrong

  • @MrStephenRGilman

    @MrStephenRGilman

    6 жыл бұрын

    The claim made in the original comment was that the Church "never even talked about" decency in movies, and that it was just "some catholic's opinion". The encyclical demonstrates that SPECIFIC claim is inaccurate.

  • @sorenkair
    @sorenkair6 жыл бұрын

    no, they didn't make great films *because* of the code, but *in spite of* its limitations.

  • @SciencewithKatie
    @SciencewithKatie6 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: contraception only became legal in Ireland in 1980 after being banned by the Catholic Church. Before then my grandma used to smuggle loads of condoms over from England - as after 6 kids she’d had enough!

  • @TheDinomite360

    @TheDinomite360

    6 жыл бұрын

    Damn your grandma was getting it in 😂😂😂

  • @eikukaan377

    @eikukaan377

    6 жыл бұрын

    Savage

  • @srajandikshit7590

    @srajandikshit7590

    6 жыл бұрын

    Science with Katie Catholics are uneducated despite being literate.They want to continue all rudimentary practicees , why Ireland banned abortion?

  • @wadawax

    @wadawax

    6 жыл бұрын

    Something tells me all the comments are Irish people complaining about the Catholic church

  • @tardistardis8

    @tardistardis8

    6 жыл бұрын

    Science with Katie My grand-uncle Bill (an Irish person) has strong opinions against abortion.

  • @Bioniking
    @Bioniking6 жыл бұрын

    The good thing about the code was that it forced screenwriters to figure out creative ways to skirt around the code. People like Billy Wilder and Preston Sturges would write witty dialogue filled with innuendo that was actually funny and intelligent. Now we have fart jokes

  • @fruitygarlic3601

    @fruitygarlic3601

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're just choosing to watch bad movies.

  • @docsouth7823

    @docsouth7823

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fruitygarlic3601 thats because there are no standards anymore and now writers have to try to make crude acts funny. Except, they aren't funny. Just look at Kevin Hart or Will Ferrell.

  • @vondas1480

    @vondas1480

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@docsouth7823but @@docsouth7823. Your statement doesn’t even make sense, if there’s no standards than they don’t “have to make crude jokes” they’re simply allowed to. Maybe you think that’s a cheaper form of comedy but that’s irrelevant.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY.6 жыл бұрын

    *Comment about Religion*

  • @deeughfolte5770

    @deeughfolte5770

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin Y. *irate, barely intelligible and unsolicited random reply* 😡

  • @juancena1117

    @juancena1117

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin Y *_Reply that Expresses Belief that Jesus Is coming_*

  • @agentice7718

    @agentice7718

    6 жыл бұрын

    Juan Cena *makes a claim that God doesn't exist*

  • @jeffreyvauxhall3260

    @jeffreyvauxhall3260

    6 жыл бұрын

    *Comment about asking for likes*

  • @gokiburi-chan4255

    @gokiburi-chan4255

    6 жыл бұрын

    REEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @maninredhelm
    @maninredhelm6 жыл бұрын

    Seems like there must be more to the story, because the Catholic Church was never that influential in America. European immigration was overwhelmingly from Protestant nations up until the Irish famine, whereupon it still continued to hold the majority to a lesser degree. At this point African-Americans have won more U.S. Presidential elections than Catholics. Were the major Hollywood studios heavily Catholic back in those days?

  • @bruhsoundeffect2882

    @bruhsoundeffect2882

    3 жыл бұрын

    wdym more African Americans have won the oval office than Catholics? Obama is first Black President (Even though he was mixed) And JFK was first and only Irish, and Catholic President. The same amount of both ave held the presidency sir.

  • @orrinprintemps3317

    @orrinprintemps3317

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bruhsoundeffect2882 Obama won two elections while Kennedy won only one. Now that Biden has won, it’s even.

  • @dianheffernan2435

    @dianheffernan2435

    3 жыл бұрын

    The flying nun..

  • @rocketman4123

    @rocketman4123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hollywood studios were and still are heavily jewish

  • @AustinNewman
    @AustinNewman6 жыл бұрын

    Love these short pieces! I didn’t know as much about Breen, glad to hear his story as well. I always understood that there was a variety of reason the PCA fell. One of the biggest being the defiance of Hughes’ Outlaw film in which he called independently operated theaters and asked each if they would play his film without the seal of approval. Awesome work on these, keep it up! 🎥🤘🏻

  • @nbmaheswara
    @nbmaheswara6 жыл бұрын

    Hitchcock devised a scene in Notorious (1946) that circumvented the Production Code's ban on kisses longer than three seconds by having his actors disengage every three seconds, murmur and nuzzle each other, then start again. He's a genius.

  • @themasstermwahahahah
    @themasstermwahahahah6 жыл бұрын

    So basically the Catholic Church created a rating system for movies

  • @Miatpi

    @Miatpi

    6 жыл бұрын

    omegadan thank you!

  • @blueblazerable

    @blueblazerable

    6 жыл бұрын

    Catholic church has always been the norm. Even in the field of architecture. Furthermore, Most of the monarchial government today is patterned after the Catholic hierarchy.

  • @hinglemccringleberry8193

    @hinglemccringleberry8193

    6 жыл бұрын

    omegadan yup, the horror!!!

  • @MasonMagruder69

    @MasonMagruder69

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Catholic Church, the Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen of film ratings

  • @NikoxD93

    @NikoxD93

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not even the Church, just Catholics, not officially supported by the Church.

  • @James-ev5dy
    @James-ev5dy6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not looking forward to seeing the comments...

  • @simonk.4338

    @simonk.4338

    6 жыл бұрын

    James Me neither

  • @strengthbuild

    @strengthbuild

    6 жыл бұрын

    it's just a bunch of really young edgelords who probably discovered what atheism is recently and are very mad mommy and daddy drag them to church.

  • @divinehazrd

    @divinehazrd

    6 жыл бұрын

    James This is relatively peaceful for Vox's standards.

  • @idealized_

    @idealized_

    6 жыл бұрын

    bfchang don’t cut yourself on that edge

  • @DavidRamirez-vc8dr

    @DavidRamirez-vc8dr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well maybe people are mad at an institution that slaughtered many innocents in the past 🤷🏽‍♂️ it’s like nazis, except everybody just seemed to forgive em

  • @giren0079
    @giren00796 жыл бұрын

    How did fears of Roosevelt making a censorship board scare movie makers into censoring three years before he became president?

  • @TradRaider

    @TradRaider

    Жыл бұрын

    Vox Lies

  • @giren0079

    @giren0079

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TradRaider Yes you understood the subtext of the question from four years ago. Also Judging by your profile pic and background you need to watch some checkmate Lincolnites.

  • @n-extrafries-surprise
    @n-extrafries-surprise6 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes restriction brings out the creativity of a writer and make masterpieces

  • @artman40

    @artman40

    2 жыл бұрын

    Other times it strangles creativity.

  • @thelegendarydarkknight585

    @thelegendarydarkknight585

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artman40 both very true statements!

  • @artman40

    @artman40

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thelegendarydarkknight585 Restrictions kept Ren & Stimpy watchable but killed Betty Boop.

  • @soopamariogalaxeee
    @soopamariogalaxeee6 жыл бұрын

    How exactly did the Catholic Church enforce their rules? They weren't working for the government, they didn't have government agents working for them, and they held no political or legal authority to censor any film. I get that film studios wanted to censor themselves so the government didn't have to, but how were they allowed to censor every film? Wouldn't some studios object to certain films being censored? If a studio released an uncensored film, wouldn't that be a strike against the censorship program for not doing their job right instead of against the studio? Does any of this make sense?

  • @stormbringer2189

    @stormbringer2189

    6 жыл бұрын

    What saddens me is how the Chruch just abuses power like that. Its like if my High School English teacher told me not to go see the Avengers because they didn't like it. The Church was abusing the trust and the authority of their position and should be ashamed.

  • @shadowthehedgehog3113

    @shadowthehedgehog3113

    6 жыл бұрын

    +DAVID MELLA Just like modern SJWs.

  • @creepystares9853

    @creepystares9853

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jewish folks owned the production companies in many cases. Catholics don't like Jews. If they didn't agree, their movies would get killed. If there is one thing life should have taught you by now when making money, the path of least resistance is the best one.

  • @rebeccaanderson5626

    @rebeccaanderson5626

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shadowthehedgehog3113 They did not enforce anything . this simply prohibited the faithful from seeing these movies under the Bane of mortal sin

  • @rebeccaanderson5626

    @rebeccaanderson5626

    3 жыл бұрын

    The church actually did not enforce anything on the general public . Movies that were condemned by the legion of decency were considered as immoral and hence Catholic did not saw them , many catholics and protestants also boycotted the theatres which showed these movies. Because of this Bollywood often heard the advice of the legion. It was like saying if you don't listen to our restrictions your movies going to be a flop .

  • @DancingTiger
    @DancingTiger6 жыл бұрын

    For everyone saying the Church had no right for what they were doing, you have to realize that all the Church did was not go to movies, theater studios then decided to accept of rating system influenced by the Church That's how business works, if people don't buy your product either stop selling or change.

  • @BigBlack81

    @BigBlack81

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hate to type these words but your comment does have merit. And when the fact that money might well be the only 'mannon' that all in this society bow to, it does put this decision set in a much different light, even if it still stinks.

  • @DancingTiger

    @DancingTiger

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BigBlack81 Oh it definitely stinks, I hate how money influences everything.

  • @sonicpsycho13
    @sonicpsycho136 жыл бұрын

    During the Golden Age of Hollywood, studios would make biblical movies, like The Ten Commandments, so they could get away with showing more sex and violence under the guise of being accurate to the source material.

  • @maria-delrincon
    @maria-delrincon6 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting to revisit these topics nowadays. I was a lecturer in History of Cinema, and the Production Code has always fascinated me. The Motion Picture Production Code wasn't born just because Catholics wanted (also, some Catholics being involved doesn't mean that the CATHOLIC CHURCH as a kind of Organization was the one censoring movies). In fact, William Hays -that gave name as the chairman of the MPPDA to the Code- wasn't a Catholic. What seems interesting to me, is that acknowledgment of the importance of cinema's influence on society. In the times of Harvey Weinstein, it seems interesting to see that some problems have always been inside Hollywood. There were some scandals in the 1920s which lead to this idea of cleaning not only what was shown on screen, but also what was going on inside Hollywood. And as Thomas Doherty says in the video... Those years led to amazing works of art in Hollywood. Very interesting, indeed!

  • @bonniea8189
    @bonniea81896 жыл бұрын

    The timeline presented of how the code came to be doesn't work: Herbert Hoover was POTUS until 1932, when FDR took office. The stock market crash that precipitated the start of The Great Depression was in August 1929. The New Deal programs started in 1933, which is the same year the League of Decency formed. This video says the studios voluntarily adopted The Production Code out of fear of regulation by FDR's administration "but then in 1930 The Great Depression hit". So the expert's claim that fear of interference from the FDR administration drove the studios doesn't make sense because it didn't exist yet.

  • @mochithepooh5368
    @mochithepooh53686 жыл бұрын

    I love how they tried to install moral guide lines but it backfired in the worst possible way.

  • @javierstrive3356

    @javierstrive3356

    Жыл бұрын

    Nahh It Got Retardedly Woke

  • @DireBeagle
    @DireBeagle6 жыл бұрын

    Uhm, Vox, your chronology is wrong. The Great Depression happened before FDR was elected. Movies studios can't have adopted guidelines in reaction to New Deal policies before FDR was elected and created the New Deal.

  • @brennanconway3728
    @brennanconway37286 жыл бұрын

    Censorship is something the government does. This was a voluntary collaboration by the Hollywood studios and HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL CATHOLIC CHURCH... It was simply a group of devout Catholics rating movies, and most Catholics and other religious or non religious people that wanted decent, morally acceptable movies just followed the rating because that was what they wanted. Consequently, the studios wanted to produce movies with acceptable ratings so they could have increased viewership. You have to keep in mind that this was a business decision, and no one was told what kind of movies they could or could not see. Also remember that morality was much different back then since religion played a much more central role in every day life than it does today.

  • @AndrewVaughanOfficial
    @AndrewVaughanOfficial6 жыл бұрын

    Don't be so quick to discount the Legion of Decency as being black-and-white villains of the industry. It's important to realize that there were no rating systems for movies at this time, and they were trying to establish a system so that kids wouldn't be seeing really disturbing content at the time. While it failed, it still resulted in the MPAA ratings later on that we use today. Ultimately it's much more nuanced than stated in this video and you can't apply the morals of today to the 1930's.

  • @stormbringer2189

    @stormbringer2189

    6 жыл бұрын

    "Show as much blood and gore as you want as long as you don't show a nipple" -MPAA

  • @Madbrad2000

    @Madbrad2000

    6 жыл бұрын

    "protect the children" isn't a good argument for censorship. That's what parents are for who, you know, could just not take kids to see movies

  • @AndrewVaughanOfficial

    @AndrewVaughanOfficial

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bradley well the parents themselves had no idea what would be shown either, so they were in the dark as well

  • @Madbrad2000

    @Madbrad2000

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Vaughan it's kinda your fault if you're taking kids to a movie without knowing the contents of the movie - there's many ways to figure that out (like watching it alone!).

  • @jjshaw8360

    @jjshaw8360

    6 жыл бұрын

    People in the 30s didn't have a lot of money to waste like that. Your average parent back then wouldn't have had the spare change to go to the theatre and watch it by themselves to see if they can watch it with their kids. It wasn't like now were you could buy a DVD and watch it at home. Also, movies back then were mainly seen as a social medium, even today it's still seen as a little bit weird to go to the theatre by yourself.

  • @TheGetout04
    @TheGetout046 жыл бұрын

    The church stopped the over production of movies about sex violence and alcohol caused by the Great depression how horrifying!

  • @Babbleplay
    @Babbleplay6 жыл бұрын

    Vox, this was interesting, but, I think a follow-up/companion video might be well received. The Hayes Code is a huge factor in movie history as well.

  • @sadus5415
    @sadus54156 жыл бұрын

    i feel like there is more information than what is in this video. Is there a possibility of an extended version of this topic? Great video im re watching it

  • @coehfelipe

    @coehfelipe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Read the book “An empire of their own”

  • @GAMERitsBETTER
    @GAMERitsBETTER6 жыл бұрын

    Are you saying that the New Deal came before the Great Depression?

  • @DeadPool-xs1cj
    @DeadPool-xs1cj6 жыл бұрын

    THIS IS GREAT!!!! I hope you guys talk more about film and cinema history.

  • @victorwilliams4403
    @victorwilliams44036 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this! Very informative. Real treat for my brain.

  • @user-vh3kj9ri8h
    @user-vh3kj9ri8h6 жыл бұрын

    We need to go back to this!

  • @JohnSmith-lf4be
    @JohnSmith-lf4be6 жыл бұрын

    Wish they would do it again.

  • @azazel166

    @azazel166

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @TheOddWorldOfJonas
    @TheOddWorldOfJonas6 жыл бұрын

    The point he makes at the end is very stupid. So the censorship wasn't bad because a lot of movies were made during the time it was applied? What exactly would stop those movies from being made without the censorship? They would all still have been made, but would be even better without the restraint on the directors' creativity. Plus a lot of other great movies would have been made, even if they didn't abide by the moral codes of the church.

  • @flyingalexf68
    @flyingalexf686 жыл бұрын

    That's very interesting. I'm surprised there was no '1st ammendment' argument back then. I remember a documentary about Irelands very strict censorship (playboy banned until 1990!) and they gave an example with the movie Casablanca. Kissing was cut, and so was any reference to adultery. I'd say everyone left the cinema very confused after the ~50 minute movie...

  • @xskramx8078
    @xskramx80785 жыл бұрын

    Look to the saints if you want to see the spirit of Catholicism ..when a catholic man does wrong , the whole religion is blamed ..the basis of Catholicism is that we men are sinners "original sin"..i guess people don't understand that , its such a beautiful ancient religion i ask that you look beyond the surface

  • @elsiemon
    @elsiemon6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, and the MPAA today is outdated, unnecessary, and counterproductive AF too, also simply run by interest groups with their own agendas. We should replace them and simplify the rating system, so filmmakers and producers don’t have to alter their intended visions to please studios, lobbies, and executives, and force attempts to “maximize profits” or “reach a larger audience “.

  • @chuyistheshiz6811
    @chuyistheshiz68116 жыл бұрын

    i love your work vox and people at vox good job.

  • @Brix2000
    @Brix20006 жыл бұрын

    Religion and the Church did not forced censorship, they proposed it, and the other end accepted their proposal.

  • @archer1949
    @archer19496 жыл бұрын

    Those early pre-code talkies are some of my favorite movies.

  • @erikalegaspi2041
    @erikalegaspi20416 жыл бұрын

    Vox be out here throwing shade at people and their house slippers smh

  • @haiderlashkarwala2505
    @haiderlashkarwala25056 жыл бұрын

    Hey Vox, currently there is a lot of buzz abut Cambridge analytica. Can you explain how did they convert user data of 250k to 87m.

  • @laurenconrad1799
    @laurenconrad17996 жыл бұрын

    If anyone has seen the ending of the film Rebecca, the Production code seriously botched it. The logic that was in the original novel got really messed up.

  • @Soprie
    @Soprie6 жыл бұрын

    One interesting thing to note is that because of the strict rules on sexual display, a lot of movies featuring women were forced to treat them as human characters and not sexual objects at the mercy of the slow-pan male gaze. Women were smart, competent people in movies. When the sexual revolution happened and sexuality was allowed to be seen on screen, women became bimbo objects again. "Once we entered the bedroom, we couldn't leave."

  • @100secks2

    @100secks2

    6 жыл бұрын

    The hell you talkin bout? Women are smart and competent in a lot of newer movies.

  • @theuglydumplings3324

    @theuglydumplings3324

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is the most intelligent comment I’ve read all day.

  • @natemup

    @natemup

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@100secks2 That's kind of a recent phenomenon, though...

  • @BakrAli10

    @BakrAli10

    Жыл бұрын

    Bookmark comment later

  • @fyukfy2366
    @fyukfy23666 жыл бұрын

    I mean the Catholic Church don't actively censor movies, they proposed guidelines that the studios agreed to, Tue church didn't force them to agree

  • @stormbringer2189

    @stormbringer2189

    6 жыл бұрын

    If they didn't agree to the terms, they would lose ticket sells.

  • @fyukfy2366

    @fyukfy2366

    6 жыл бұрын

    Storm Bringer no one said they wouldn't, but equating that to forced censorship is like saying that if there's a really bad movie and no one sees it that people's taste is cracking movies

  • @creepystares9853

    @creepystares9853

    6 жыл бұрын

    naive as f*** response.

  • @TuhljinTampergauge

    @TuhljinTampergauge

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@creepystares9853 - Bigotry-and-emotion-prompted response. You're attacking a fact because you hate.

  • @Zquirrelthing
    @Zquirrelthing6 жыл бұрын

    Am I wrong, or does this video have sims music in the background?

  • @mabrurh
    @mabrurh6 жыл бұрын

    What’s the song used at the end, at the beginning of the credits?

  • @GameyRaccoon
    @GameyRaccoon5 жыл бұрын

    I am genuinely curious about this. If a Catholic says objectification of women is bad, (which it is) it's censorship But if a Feminist group says objectification of women is bad, (which it is) it's a womens' rights issue? Please someone explain this to me.

  • @TradRaider

    @TradRaider

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you see, according to Vox, being Catholic is bad, but being a woman is good

  • @elemperadordemexico

    @elemperadordemexico

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TradRaider indeed

  • @BakrAli10

    @BakrAli10

    Жыл бұрын

    Bookmark comment later

  • @swishgod6623
    @swishgod66236 жыл бұрын

    Sounds similar to what China is currently doing

  • @vee3541

    @vee3541

    6 жыл бұрын

    Swishgod what is it doing?

  • @g4footballers466

    @g4footballers466

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ok cmon, what China is doing is so much worse, this is honestly not even that bad... they created a code for movies that is now a very good organization

  • @DanTheMan27
    @DanTheMan274 жыл бұрын

    4:41 is the original A Star Is Born, which is surprising that the Catholic Church didn’t censor it because that movie is about a woman marrying a drunk who is seen obscenely drunk several times in the movie, and is even shown having a drink or two in a few scenes

  • @gevansbham
    @gevansbham6 жыл бұрын

    Before the Catholics got hold of things, there was this: "In 1922, after some risqué films and a series of off-screen scandals involving Hollywood stars, the studios enlisted Presbyterian elder William H. 'Will' Hays, a figure of unblemished rectitude, to rehabilitate Hollywood's image. Hays, later nicknamed the motion picture 'Czar,' was paid the then-lavish sum of $100,000 a year (equivalent to more than $1.4 million in 2015 dollars)." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Code_Hollywood

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong76556 жыл бұрын

    0:07 holy cow it's the guy from the reaction gif

  • @adas666
    @adas6666 жыл бұрын

    Glad that’s not the case anymore lol

  • @joselynm5634

    @joselynm5634

    6 жыл бұрын

    perukito. Yeah now we have good ol regular media instead showing us what what they want us to see

  • @utkarsh4386

    @utkarsh4386

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, now we have liberal propaganda.

  • @divinehazrd

    @divinehazrd

    6 жыл бұрын

    perukito. Now we have shitty hollywood.

  • @fayguled900

    @fayguled900

    6 жыл бұрын

    Utkarsh Dave Sahni much better than censorship.

  • @utkarsh4386

    @utkarsh4386

    6 жыл бұрын

    agreed

  • @jackiet9368
    @jackiet93686 жыл бұрын

    Hey is that wall organizer on the background from 4eyezfuriture?

  • @keriezy
    @keriezy6 жыл бұрын

    5:34 the exact opposite arguement can be made for the 100s of movies that weren't made because of the code.

  • @Bauks
    @Bauks6 жыл бұрын

    Really going to disable comments and ratings? Not willing to stand by your own work? Classy Vox, classy.

  • @francesco8000
    @francesco80006 жыл бұрын

    Now i finally understand why old americans are so mad with modern society. Society when they were young was the equivalent of the life of a sheltered Lady during the XI century.

  • @natemup

    @natemup

    4 жыл бұрын

    You may be overestimating the 11th century...

  • @Man-jc8xl

    @Man-jc8xl

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because they don’t support degeneracy

  • @somexp12
    @somexp123 жыл бұрын

    I think those Catholic specific letter ratings still exist. I remember people referencing an evolved version of that (A1-A# & O) when I was growing up.

  • @ArickHauschild
    @ArickHauschild6 жыл бұрын

    A minute left in the video and it's suddenly unavailable?

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier976 жыл бұрын

    Magnificent work, thanks Church.

  • @daphniestarr
    @daphniestarr6 жыл бұрын

    Omg bring this back!!! Where is Hollywood now? Battling sex scandals because of their own doing. As a Catholic I think its so stupid an obviously immoral to have sex and violence in movies. Common Hollywood. Oh but it sells so let’s keep doing it even when it hurts our society. Sounds prudent ...

  • @Oncopoda

    @Oncopoda

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daphnie Starr Lol nice troll job.

  • @dwayneasher6765

    @dwayneasher6765

    11 ай бұрын

    There are movies like that the hays code was against black people and against criticizing the government so are you okay with the government being your god

  • @diddyphukkingkong393

    @diddyphukkingkong393

    Ай бұрын

    @@dwayneasher6765 Movies like Dumbo and Song of the South weren't attacking black people though.

  • @ashknoecklein
    @ashknoecklein6 жыл бұрын

    Was not expecting an apology for censorship at the end there lol.

  • @Olodus
    @Olodus6 жыл бұрын

    Joseph Breen?! As in the same lastname as the genius film director Neil Breen? Are they related?

  • @jlouis4407
    @jlouis4407 Жыл бұрын

    So it was the Golden Age when censored by Catholics? Got it.

  • @dgarr2224

    @dgarr2224

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, quite based

  • @philosopher24680

    @philosopher24680

    7 күн бұрын

    @@dgarr2224 The Code nearly banned Citizen Kane and would have banned both Godfather films, it was a disaster. The Golden Age was due to advancements in sound and picture making it inevitable, but the 70's is usually considered to have the best quality of film, since you had a combo of little censorship, director discretion, hyper-realism and new ideas as opposed to regurgitating the same Westerns over and over again which is what started to plague the Hay's Code. Most damning of all, it would take minimal effort for modern Marvel/Star Wars garbage to be in-line with the Hay's Code, but nearly every actually decent modern movie (Three Billboards, Banshees of Inisherin, Licorice Pizza, Tar, etc.) would be banned.

  • @dgarr2224

    @dgarr2224

    6 күн бұрын

    @@philosopher24680 Good points. I won't say the rating system was perfect, but there's no way it didn't raise the bar for films of the 50s. Great films aren't great because of the evil it portrays, that stuff can be cut and the quality of the movie doesn't have to change at all. Overall having restrictions improves quality as more directors and writers spend time on writing something of substance, instead of succumbing to over-sensuality and/or mindless entertainment. Also, I think the 50s edge out the 70s.

  • @SleinJinn
    @SleinJinn6 жыл бұрын

    Surprised you didn't mention the influence the Catholic church maintains today, particularly exemplified by killing the Golden Compass franchise. I kept waiting for you to go in that direction.

  • @daphniestarr

    @daphniestarr

    6 жыл бұрын

    SleinJinn ????

  • @coyote6020

    @coyote6020

    6 жыл бұрын

    They try the same with the Da Vince Code. Here in Brazil ever single Priest of every single church formally spoke in masses that people should not read the books.

  • @SleinJinn

    @SleinJinn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daphnie Starr ???? What? This was widely-reported news at the time. New Line Cinema was originally slated to make film adaptations of the entire _His Dark Materials_ trilogy, but they caved to (very public) pressure from the Catholic church and cancelled the project after the first film despite huge box office success (it earned something like double its budget in cinemas), which lead to cast members boycotting the studio. The trilogy was written to be a secular answer to C.S. Lewis's overtly Christian allegorical _Chronicles of Narnia_.

  • @floofyowls8989

    @floofyowls8989

    6 жыл бұрын

    SleinJinn the Golden Compass was my childhood, ; - ;

  • @zerogeass21

    @zerogeass21

    6 жыл бұрын

    That movie sucked.

  • @KaylaNoelle1
    @KaylaNoelle16 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile, the Catholic church should have been focusing on ... oh I don't know... controlling and stopping the rampant child sexual abuse within their churches?? MAYBE??

  • @KendrixTermina
    @KendrixTermina6 жыл бұрын

    So like video games, movies were classed as "toys" rather than "art" in their early days and dumbed down accordingly. Not like violence & sex immediately make things more sophisticated but they are facets of life, and "You need to punish the bad guy/ the good guy has to win" really limit the amount of moral complexity you can do in your story. Many rly good stories leavbe you wondering who the bad guys even really are

  • @Hocusbogus28
    @Hocusbogus286 жыл бұрын

    The legion of decency. Lol 😂😂

  • @gabrielborjas7923

    @gabrielborjas7923

    6 жыл бұрын

    Parvati Nair "We shall save the world from morally wrong perceptions and ideas" lol

  • @rebeccaanderson5626

    @rebeccaanderson5626

    3 жыл бұрын

    The church has absolute right to guide it's flock . The legion of decency was a million times correct

  • @azazel166

    @azazel166

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rebeccaanderson5626 A pity their guidelines were very wrong and downright malicious.

  • @rebeccaanderson5626

    @rebeccaanderson5626

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@azazel166 They come from a religious community and are to be strict . Also speaking they were not created by the church they were created by members of the church . There is a difference between them

  • @gladyskihara4736

    @gladyskihara4736

    Жыл бұрын

    Were they really wrong? Majority of the Hollywood actors specifically the actresses were subjected to horrid abuse. It isn't an accident that drug and alcohol abuse was rampant.

  • @lucas5893
    @lucas58936 жыл бұрын

    This was not censorship, this was a voluntary decision.

  • @hemidas

    @hemidas

    6 жыл бұрын

    That makes it better?

  • @creativeusername6453

    @creativeusername6453

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was voluntary in an attempt to avoid true censorship

  • @hemidas

    @hemidas

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's like saying suicide is better than murder. Self-censorship is *still* censorship.

  • @lucas5893

    @lucas5893

    6 жыл бұрын

    No. Censorship is when you're prohibited to make certain types of movies. In this scenario, the Catholic Church set rules for content to not be boycotted. It's different, although you can still be pissed off. Real censorship is still a huge thing in a lot of governments and it gets people murdered and exiled.

  • @limitlessapocalypse2702

    @limitlessapocalypse2702

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jovan Mitrić no its not if they chose to do it lol

  • @tonyraffetto931
    @tonyraffetto9316 жыл бұрын

    Whats the movie with the girl jumping through the window and why am I not watching it right now?

  • @asdfqwertA
    @asdfqwertA6 жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic video

  • @pikus01p
    @pikus01p6 жыл бұрын

    Hey, why i cannot comment last video about sleeping?

  • @pikus01p

    @pikus01p

    6 жыл бұрын

    And see a like ratio ;)

  • @pabloortizlopez2684

    @pabloortizlopez2684

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was in time to see it and it was something like 2k / 6k

  • @pikus01p

    @pikus01p

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pablo Ortiz Lopez I know, i saw that :)

  • @xskramx8078
    @xskramx80785 жыл бұрын

    "Even when they explore the darkest depths of the soul or the most unsettling aspects of evil, artists give voice in a way to the universal desire for redemption"~~Pope John Paul II

  • @Shardok42
    @Shardok426 жыл бұрын

    Every one of these films would have been improved by greater artistic license allowed by their creators.

  • @theangel666100
    @theangel6661006 жыл бұрын

    Was Reefer Madness actually classes C ? It was an "educational' film against cannabis

  • @blueblazerable
    @blueblazerable6 жыл бұрын

    Now, CC can't control censorship anymore. In this age of technology wherein everyone has smartphone, we can watch and read whatever we want. Look at the society now, so individualistic. We do not trust authority anymore. We always feel high about ourselves. All of us wants to be the boss. The result? We tend to do what it feels right, rather than what is right.

  • @jpurple
    @jpurple6 жыл бұрын

    I think is ok some kind of moral code for the mass media, and some kind of movies directed to masses. But not censorship at all. There are themes and situations that appeal more to an adult públic...

  • @JoseFernandez-dq8il
    @JoseFernandez-dq8il6 күн бұрын

    The movies 'Casablanca' and 'Citizen Kane' were classified as: A-II-Morally Unobjectionable for Adults and Adolescents by the National Legion of Decency. The movie 'The Wizard of Oz' was classified as: A-I-Morally Unobjectionable for General Patronage by the National Legion of Decency. I don't know why he says that they were censored by the Catholic Church.

  • @riyazuo
    @riyazuo6 жыл бұрын

    Whoa, I got an ad about a toilet seat that lights up during the night lmao

  • @mayurbande7733
    @mayurbande77336 жыл бұрын

    The internet is dominating nowadays.... It is the future.

  • @nicoleheart16

    @nicoleheart16

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mr Insouciant ok what else is new

  • @johndoherty487

    @johndoherty487

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fros-T13 the internet is more like a full grown 30-40 year old adult than an old man right now.

  • @omarhuda4997

    @omarhuda4997

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Doherty I think that's referencing a character from the hit TV show "Malcolm in the middle"

  • @TheRedRaccoonDog

    @TheRedRaccoonDog

    6 жыл бұрын

    The internet is dominating and it's the place where religion goes to die.

  • @oadaoada

    @oadaoada

    6 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @sebenfc1982
    @sebenfc19826 жыл бұрын

    If your going to criticize religions, don't just target Christianity alone. Otherwise you might be accused of being biased.

  • @acelegend4289
    @acelegend42896 жыл бұрын

    uhh i need the name of the movie at 2:16 im tryna see some classics

  • @MrCount84

    @MrCount84

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Sign of the Cross

  • @theopenrift
    @theopenrift6 жыл бұрын

    It makes me wonder what films would be like in that period of time if they didn't have to follow the code from the Legion of Decency

  • @Soneilly0930
    @Soneilly09306 жыл бұрын

    Like yeah slippers

  • @satinderkaur8145
    @satinderkaur81456 жыл бұрын

    The same is happenong in INDIA now, sadly ,people protest against Movies with "new ideas" .Ugh INTOLERANCE on high....

  • @PHlophe

    @PHlophe

    6 жыл бұрын

    i am about to watch the movie with the muslim prince as lead. the one everyone in the Hindu community is up in arms about. the cinematography is gorge

  • @declannewton2556

    @declannewton2556

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nobody censored Padmaavati, just that quite a few people wanted to laumch a massive boycott to get the film pulled, no official Hindu organization condemned it.

  • @fishswammm2308
    @fishswammm23086 жыл бұрын

    I think the Vatican film list has to be mentioned, where the Catholic Church actually praises films like citizen Kane

  • @williamhornstra8313
    @williamhornstra83136 жыл бұрын

    Except now the ratings system is still broken...

  • @Stormkrow280
    @Stormkrow2803 жыл бұрын

    Ah the Hays code, the original “Cancel Culture”

  • @azazel166

    @azazel166

    3 жыл бұрын

    Th original is even older, goes way back to the time of Socrates.

  • @rmazzella5303

    @rmazzella5303

    2 жыл бұрын

    That “cancel culture”-which should be restored-was based on morality-the kind we have now is based on political whims.

  • @dwayneasher6765

    @dwayneasher6765

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@rmazzella5303it was not about morality they just wanted people to obey the government

  • @MrJustinUSCM
    @MrJustinUSCM4 жыл бұрын

    Can they start doing this again?

  • @DanTheMan27
    @DanTheMan274 жыл бұрын

    It says they stopped doing it in 1954, but even movies like Some Like It Hot in 1959 had it. That makes no sense?

  • @darrenbutler9819
    @darrenbutler98193 жыл бұрын

    Church and state separate, right guys, r...right?

  • @filthycasual9862
    @filthycasual98626 жыл бұрын

    I would have loved to work on a film that went against the code during that time. Give a big middle finger to the church. I don't hate people who are religious. But religion shouldn't be in entertainment like movies, tv. Nor should they be in other things like politics.

  • @ignaciocamargo
    @ignaciocamargo3 жыл бұрын

    So the Catholic Church invented the golden age of Hollywood

  • @jlouis4407

    @jlouis4407

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    I think it's pretty punk rock to give an interview in slippers. You know, like, I ain't wearing shoes for none

  • @BMWROYAL
    @BMWROYAL6 жыл бұрын

    Smh so if the community agree with you it’s fine but if they disagree you disable the comments and like/dislike so our voices can’t be heard. That’s low. Sorry but I’m unsubbing. Not Because you made a video i disagree with but because you tried to hide that fact that people disagreed

  • @niccobaratti4230
    @niccobaratti42306 жыл бұрын

    "Down with this sort of thing." - Father Ted

  • @TheCoolerDanny
    @TheCoolerDanny6 жыл бұрын

    As a Latino i laughed out loud when i heard you say Casablanca, no disrespect tho

  • @colleenrawson8477
    @colleenrawson84776 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Harry is shown drunk and partially by lucky accident. As he stumbles off in the direction George pushes him off screen, a pile of supplies fell over on accident, knocked over by a crew member. He thought he would get fired for ruining the shot, but instead they kept the sound in as it sounds like Uncle Harry is knocking over trash cans.

  • @KinOksana
    @KinOksana6 жыл бұрын

    Was a bit confused you didn't mention Hays himself

  • @fabiozanette5343
    @fabiozanette53434 жыл бұрын

    Good I like the church even more now