How That ‘Better Call Saul’ Death Was Kept Secret From Bob Odenkirk & Rhea Seehorn | Making A Scene
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“Better Caul Saul” actors Patrick Fabian, Bob Odenkirk, Tony Dalton, Rhea Seehorn and director Thomas Schnauz dove into the details about that shocking death scene in the “Plan and Execution” from the show’s final season. Talking to Michael Schneider for Variety‘s Making a Scene, the cast and crew were full of helpful tidbits on the best way to die on camera. Warning, spoilers for “Saul” ahead.
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What's even more heartbreaking is to see the killer and his victim being buried together in some underground ditch. What a story
@pepparsYea
Жыл бұрын
I think that thought was even worse when you remember Jesse and Walt burn the whole lab down a couple months or years afterwards.
@iamthepinkylifter
Жыл бұрын
under the meth lab
@KittyKong14
Жыл бұрын
THAT WAS SO SPOOKY TO ME!!
@HafidzMurshidie
Жыл бұрын
@@pepparsYea Ahh, I forgot that the lab burned down…
@ZynexPlays
Жыл бұрын
@@HafidzMurshidie He's already serving a life sentence..
Howard is the only one of the main characters to seek out a therapist and work on himself. He doesn't give up on his troubled marriage, he tries to do right by Jimmy and this is how he's rewarded. Homie did NOT deserve that death which makes it all the more shocking.
@altafkalam2716
Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons Jimmy hates Howard is because Howard rectified his inner self and unburdened himself of the guilt of Chuck's death while Jimmy had refused to process those emotions. He hated Howard for not wallowing in self pity and depression anymore.
@LilacSnowBun
Жыл бұрын
Great point, it’s super tragic
@red_calla_lily
Жыл бұрын
Howard was the better version of Jimmy, what he always wanted to be. Just as gifted with natural charisma, but choosing the path of using his "powers" for good while not getting dragged down by the problems that were thrown his way. He's the foil to slipping Jimmy.
@MrFitzonic
Жыл бұрын
What are you, the narrator?
@Afreshio
Жыл бұрын
@@red_calla_lily Howard was not using his powers for the good either. Just being a corporate chill. Also manipulating with his charisma those ederly folks to keep the Sandpiper case longer so the firm could collect more for them. He was a ruthless greedy narcissistic asshole. But he didn't deserve that death.
I actually felt like crying when you saw Howard in his grave because he really didn’t deserve it. Never felt that way over a fictional character before
@ManEatingButt69
Жыл бұрын
You don’t read enough fiction
@droctogonapus1223
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickfabianreal are you real
@EGGMANGROW
Жыл бұрын
“Never felt that way over a fictional character before” Same. I’ve never felt so upset at how much a character didn’t deserve to die.
@donkey7921
Жыл бұрын
I think you should play the walking dead season 1 game...
@Ethosraps
Жыл бұрын
We were more tore up over Howard than Nacho
The fact that Rhea, Bob and Patrick actually lived together during filming and used part of their free time to rehearse and develop the scripts really made their scenes together shine.
@kiis0
6 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s insane, I had no idea. That’s cool! Source? 🤗 thx! 🙏🏼
@Ellik8101
5 ай бұрын
My theory is that they probably did that for legal reasons - considering covid restrictions meant people who didn't live together couldn't be in the same room etc.
@kitschking
4 ай бұрын
well said 🙌
Fun fact: This was not scripted. The actor who plays lalo just randomly shows up on set and murders the actor who plays Howard. This is why bob and rhaes reactions are so genuine.
@morrowmorrow4811
Жыл бұрын
true!
@arrctic7283
Жыл бұрын
real
@yourpalsammy9773
Жыл бұрын
Fact
@B0K0691
Жыл бұрын
Bravo, Vince!
@TheRealGuusMcgoose
Жыл бұрын
stupid 😂😂😂
Patrick seems so cool in real life. He and Tony did an AMAZING job acting on this show.
@JimmyJacksOfficial
Жыл бұрын
There’s a picture of them hiking together
@alabamagigi2218
Жыл бұрын
I saw Patrick in an episode of Nash Bridges
@dzemilmehovic5271
Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyJacksOfficial that pic was used on Howards memorial(with Tony cut out ofc)😂
@nanowhit
Жыл бұрын
their performances were dead on in breaking bad as well
@zasherr
Жыл бұрын
@@nanowhit Agreed, its a shame they were buried by the other performances on Breaking Bad:(
I love the reactions from the actors on the situation. Patrick: I've known about it for 6 months. Rhea: OH MY GOD!?!? Tony: I didn't think it would come to this, but here it is And then Bob: This should have happened sooner.
@prettyshinyspaghetti8332
Жыл бұрын
Yep I cracked up at Bob's line
@schutzstaffel6337
8 ай бұрын
Bob's line was like when Bryan said that his favourite scene was killing Mike
@non-ofyo-business3399
5 ай бұрын
@@schutzstaffel6337that’s what I was reminded of lol
@vario6492
27 күн бұрын
Lol, btw Bob didn't say he knew Howard would be shot, he meant the comeuppance for their pranks, consequences
@diccchocolate416
Күн бұрын
How many months?
Howard's death was so affecting because by this point in the series you come to realise he's the most moral main character in BCS. He might appear like a sleazy lawyer, but he always tries to do the right thing, he has empathy for other people, and he's really just a good guy who wants to be liked.
@judefischer3821
10 ай бұрын
Man did we watch the same show?? Howard never did anything for anybody besides himself and his own ego
@aryan-gi1hw
10 ай бұрын
@@judefischer3821no?
@bilalrashad6636
9 ай бұрын
@@judefischer3821So did Saul but he was never called out on it
@Jackson...
8 ай бұрын
@judefischer3821 yeah Howard is definitely a bit of a sleazy lawyer, but among the rest of the cast, he's practically perfect. I think that absolutely makes for better characters, and it really drives home the fact that Howard absolutely did nothing to deserve it without trying to make him morally upstanding.
@201watermelon
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, honestly he might be a bit of a dick sometimes but hes just a normal, nice, innocent, uninvolved person. He had no part in anything of that and i dont even think he deserved saul and kims devious plot
I can't believe they actually shot Howard's actor in the head for this scene. The genuine reactions to seeing their coworker die in front of them, that can't be replicated. Bravo, Vince!
@dummyforcummy5223
Жыл бұрын
🕎
@tokiyakillsinsight160
Жыл бұрын
The fact they were able to convince Patrick Fabian to let Tony Dalton shoot him in the head with a real gun, Vravo Bince x2!
@noelle1392
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how they were able to do that without actually killing Patrick IRL? truly incredible acting!!
@anijeepa
Жыл бұрын
Vravo Bince!!
@bread1215
Жыл бұрын
@@noelle1392 the bullet was also a paid actor
I love how this show changes your feelings towards Howard Hamlin. At first you despise him just like Jimmy & Kim. Later on, you empathize with him and wish he had a better fate. This show has such a talented group of writers, I’m gonna miss it.
@gabrielamaya2964
Жыл бұрын
I just rewatched the entire series and you are totally right. Howard isn't that great of a guy but you realize most of it is Chuck's fault but the showrunners completely manipulate the audience into thinking he's an asshole. THEN, when you start to sympathize with him... BAM
@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
Жыл бұрын
Howard was always a boss.
@personnn
Жыл бұрын
i didnt like howard but he didnt deserve death
@austinhernandez2716
Жыл бұрын
Not for me. I never understood the hate for Howard. He always seemed like the most innocent character of the whole show.
@YusuffYT
Жыл бұрын
@@austinhernandez2716 You got a point there, at first I thought he was the generic blonde a-hole who will be important in Saul's character arc and will have some kind of redemption, but in an old fashioned Br Ba way, this show took it further, turning point for me was when they revealed Chuck was the one messing with Jimmy.
Rhea understood Kim’s character so profoundly. I am so happy with how much care she put into Kim Wexler
I really loved the conversation they had before Lalo came in. Howard was unloading on them, confronting them with the exact reasons why they were torturing him and making it clear how childishly petty they were being. I'd like to think that those words actually hit the two of them after the bullet hit Howard.
@Matisyahuwu
11 ай бұрын
Howard wasn't ever a "good guy" but he was NEVER wrong. He knew what they were up to in all of the seasons, it was just too crazy to sound believable. And much like all of Jimmy and Kim's decisions, someone else paid the price.
@bellroad100
11 ай бұрын
Oh, it hit them. Hard! I knew after Howard died that they could never come back from this. It would wreck them…and it did.
@thedudecalledalan9095
10 ай бұрын
It hit Kim hard It was the wake up call she needed to finally leave Jimmy Jimmy however was in denial and kept being in denial until he got arrested and finally admitted to everything Kim accepted things needed to change, while Jimmy didn't want to and acted like it was normal and totally not his fault
@xyoosh-be6hn
4 ай бұрын
@@Matisyahuwuwhy was Howard never a "good guy"? He did so much for them and put up with a lot of their schemes. Im not bothered enough to write it all out yet you could probably find it somewhere in the comments
as heartbreaking as this scene is, it still makes me feel good that they had fun filming it. i love the fact they are all friends in real life, behind the scenes. damn i’m going to miss this show!!!!! ughhh…..
@jaives
Жыл бұрын
not just friends but housemates. they eventually decided to get a house in Albuquerque and live together while filming.
@DeadlyLazer
Жыл бұрын
It's funny that really dark shows where the characters torture and kill eachother always have the most wholesome and friendliest casts.
@cassiepathak
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadlyLazer I've also noticed that. Uplift shows or screwball comedies tend to have toxic sets, dark dramas and horror tend to be chill.
@DeadlyLazer
Жыл бұрын
@@cassiepathak yeah, like the nickelodeon shows. Showbiz is weird
@Kaweebo
Жыл бұрын
Well except for the part where Bob had a heart attack on set..,
Patrick Fabian is a gem. His Instagram pictures in the memorial hit different.
@Scratchii
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if they were his actual vacation photos!
@Commander_Cat
Жыл бұрын
That's so funny!
@victoravr10
Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@layoramirez4993
Жыл бұрын
So funny cuz one of them is with tony dalton lol!
@AJ-vn3rr
Жыл бұрын
Bro I laughed so hard at that sad scene bc I knew they were pictures he posted recently😂😂😂
Something I noticed is even though Howard is there to confront Kim and Jimmy, when Lalo comes in, its subtle but Howard goes 'Whats this about' showimg actual concern for them, before he himself dies.
Great scene. The shot of the flicker of the candle from the slight breeze caused by Lalo entering is perfect.
I like how Patrick is the least devastated about his character's death than everyone else in the video.
@ShabbsArt
Жыл бұрын
everyone sympathizes with his character now!
@rockinrobert100
Жыл бұрын
He knew for months it was coming.
@AfonsoBucco
Жыл бұрын
@@rockinrobert100 probably they let the Howard's actor knowing before. So when he reached this scene he could acting normally. I mean not normally, but more alive than normal. That was a scene when he face again Saul. But basically he had to be the normal asshole he used to be, even minutes before he died.
@jamesreagan8175
Жыл бұрын
He’s most likely made peace with Howard’s death while everyone else is still grieving the character a little bit
@gwen6622
Жыл бұрын
@@AfonsoBucco he literally said so in the video
Crazy how at the start of BCS I thought Howard was the villain but by the end he was actually the only decent hearted person in the entire show
@DS8G10
Жыл бұрын
Hey don't forget Irene, Marion and the MVP Lyle!!!!
@instantregret7858
Жыл бұрын
@@DS8G10 lyle is my absolute favourite of BCS. such an innocent bean 🥺
@alonsobruni8131
Жыл бұрын
@@instantregret7858 Lyle is Lylesenberg in secret, he was Gus's prodigy and took over his empire, just placed it somewhere else.
@DS8G10
Жыл бұрын
@@alonsobruni8131 Wouldn't be surprised with such a crazy work ethic!
@superflux1654
Жыл бұрын
I think they said they thought of doing that first
I love Lalo's line when Howard asks him "who are you?" "Me? I'm nobody."
Probably the most realistic Better Call Saul scene. Howard is gone just 20 seconds after Lalo enters. Lalo doesn’t even let him finish his sentence before he blows his brains out. The acting is phenomenal too. It feels like a very high quality live leak. It’s that good!
@christopherchocolate69420
7 ай бұрын
It's like the death of Hank/Jack, dying before finishing his last words
@MWGScorp
3 ай бұрын
outside no one hearing a suppressed gunshot...which would be very, very loud.
@Giantcrabz
2 ай бұрын
i ain't investigating gunshots out of Saul Goodmans apartment lol
No wonder Bob and Rhea's reactions seemed genuine, they actually killed Patrick Fabian. Truly a man of brilliance, bravo Vince Giligan.
@percycat213
Жыл бұрын
Yes, rip patrick fabian, it was nice of him to video call from heaven.
@yeetis4527
Жыл бұрын
He has said the same thing about three times already, I don't think it's funny anymore
@ukargeo
Жыл бұрын
Vravo Bince
@MrTriplej79
Жыл бұрын
Bravo Peter this shows really his baby.
@cole55_
Жыл бұрын
Bravo Bince
One of the most memorable scenes from both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.. to me Howard's death, and unceremonious burial, was around the same level of heartbreaking as Hank's.
@007Julie
Жыл бұрын
The scene where Howard ends up sharing a grave with this murderer was brutal, it broke my heart.
@jcgmusic16
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Breaking Point for both protagonists.
@TheMACnator
Жыл бұрын
@@007Julie and the fact that even tho the truth about his death eventually came out, they are never going to find his body
@markconroy9033
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMACnator have you seen this? "Where were the two bodies?" kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6Otltilmc2zj5s.html
@bigbengamer
Жыл бұрын
The hardest death for me to accept was Chuck. I spent all that time between seasons hoping it was a dream, or he got out, or something happened other than him dying.
Howards character really grew on me throughout the series. If I didn't knew his fate through spoilers I would have probably cried in that scene. Bravo, Vince!
I actually immediately started bawling as soon as the gunshot occurred. I really loved Howard by the end of the show, and in turn felt near hatred for Saul and Kim. That shot to the head cemented how horrible those two had become, that an innocent man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time because of them had to die.
@CameronsCars
5 ай бұрын
He treated jimmy and Kim like Crap. Total nepo baby
@Cristyface
5 ай бұрын
@@CameronsCars for one, he couldn't choose who he was born to or how he was raised. And if you could, you'd help your son succeed too. Second, he did have his douche moments, I don't think there's much debate for that, but he did turn over a new leaf and tried to right his wrongs later. Overall, he was mostly loyal to his mentor and friend, Chuck, until it got out of control, and then tried to reconcile with Jimmy and Kim, but they were hell bent on using him has a scapegoat for all of their pent up frustration and need for sadistic excitement.
@mandalove1858
4 ай бұрын
@@CameronsCarsyea bc sending someone to doc review and following chucks decision bc he is a huge part of the company warrants what they did to him. Howard wanted to hire Jimmy to he only didn’t bc Chuck told him he couldn’t.
@jumpinjohnnyruss
2 ай бұрын
It's such a strange dynamic, emotionally and morally. Do we want Jimmy and Kim to feel terrible? Do we want to say that they deserved this? The only way for them to pay any kind of emotional penance is if they aren't completely cold-hearted.
@ggsap
2 ай бұрын
@@CameronsCars Smartest BCS viewer.
Howard’s death was probably the most harrowing death in the Breaking Bad universe since it wasn’t like he had it coming nor was it inevitable that he *had* to die. It was just him being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
@sidleyparkhermit6391
Жыл бұрын
I have been in more denial about Howard's death than maybe any other fictional character death ever
@lessur
Жыл бұрын
andrea’s death in breaking bad still fucks me up
@LilacSnowBun
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree
@KhrisMiddletonFitnessOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@lessur Hey, it wasn't personal at least.
@maruzencentral
Жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about Drew Sharp in train episode of BB
Fabian is such a chill dude and really humble. His performance this season was insane.
@swisserty
Жыл бұрын
What a not class act, nice little sneak diss in there Fabian. We paid you what you’re worth little man, don’t bite the hand that squeeze tube feeds your pretty blonde mouth. Thouth.
@nogginclontith
Жыл бұрын
He seems like Howard except the niceness and modesty are completely genuine haha
@alnicospeaker
Жыл бұрын
He talks like a happy drunk Howard
@godbluffvdgg
Жыл бұрын
That part where Kim and him are walking to the conference room, where his face is stoic toward Kim then he blasts the smile as he goes through the door...He reminded me of Homelander...:0
@hbluemole6941
Жыл бұрын
@@godbluffvdgg what episode are you talking about?
they try to not spoil it with the title but then the thumbnail is just HOWARD
Howard's death was one of the most shocking twists I've ever seen on a show, especially because it felt like it made sense and was organic and wasn't just out of nowhere with the intention to shock.
@SolemnHeretic
8 ай бұрын
That's been one of the great strengths of BB and BCS in my opinion. The writers are really good at taking two seemingly unrelated story elements at the start and building up to an explosive clash between the two later on. It's very much like when Hank crossed paths with Uncle Jack in BB, but it's still It's own thing and feels completely organic because you can follow the events that led up to the clash.
@James2005.
5 ай бұрын
Or how they absolutely blew it out of the water with introducing Hector so early on and then Fring’s plot line being so seemingly separate like they would never cross paths
I hope Patrick Fabian gets cast in more big productions, he's a great actor
what’s cool is that howard never really changes throughout the series - only our perception does. he’s always been a standup guy since the beginning but because we were in jimmys POV he looked like an ass.
@LilacSnowBun
Жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@Tomasz987987
Жыл бұрын
he was an ass! Fake ass smile all the way. Hated him from ep1 till this scene. When lalo killed him I jumped with joy :P waaaay too late
@hameed
Жыл бұрын
@@Tomasz987987 so brave and edgy
@MarkHogan994
Жыл бұрын
He did actually change a bit after Chuck's death. His feelings of guilt affected him and he had to deal with that. After seeking therapy he became a noticeably kinder and calmer person. He dealt with his grief, realized he wasn't truly at fault, and grew as a person. Basically the opposite of Jimmy, who never dealt with his grief or his guilt, and only became a worse person.
@jongrouper4814
Жыл бұрын
So we’re just going to ignore that he withheld money from elderly people, telling them it was in their best interest to wait, and knowing that many of not all of them would be dead by the time the case was over. All so that he could fuel his ego and ‘win’ against the other law firm, while making more money for his greedy ass firm. Yeah, great guy.
This death along with Hank's, was the most surprisingly and impactful to me. These are characters that seem like they have the "plot armor", or "main character armor", that you would believe they would never be killed. That is was makes it so impactful seeing these characters die. Especially Howard, since he was simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time. I give kudos to all involved in these shows as they really hit you hard, and it's tough (at least for me) to have a show impact you personally.
@Suplyndmnd
Жыл бұрын
I saw Hanks coming though. This was SOOOO sudden. I had to pause to collect myself as I was so shocked.
@4steroid
11 ай бұрын
This one was really traumatic for me because I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that the entire scheme that Jimmy and Kim were pulling on him was for nothing. No pay off, the guy is just dead.
@mournblade1066
9 ай бұрын
Hank totally deserved his fate. Howard did not.
@enrique88005
9 ай бұрын
Hank was in the game. Howard was just a civilian
@Skaevs
4 ай бұрын
@@mournblade1066 Hank deserved to get shot in the head? Where's the logic in that.
As much as I love Breaking Bad, there was no scene more shocking & unexpected as Howard's death that it really blows my mind how it never got leaked beforehand. This show was so well written & everyone who acted just knocked it out of the park in every episode. Will miss BCS badly :(
@gabrielandradeferraz386
Жыл бұрын
I had up to that point expected howards death (I had the spoiler that he dies, just not how) to be a suicide. I had the same reaction as all the characters.
@k1llsh0t_87
Жыл бұрын
I had by some miracle not gotten spoiled about his death so I was just watching and then boom he's dead and I'm just sitting here thinking wtf
@Natasha-tu5qs
Жыл бұрын
He was probably just thankful he made it this far into the show. His character is probably the most disposable.
@GREENWARRI0R
Жыл бұрын
I remember when the Gus scene in Breaking Bad was leaked, and that was such a huge part of the show. I would say that this was a bigger moment in the BB universe and somehow it never got leaked. Kudos
@GREENWARRI0R
Жыл бұрын
@@Natasha-tu5qs Howard was far from the most disposable, what do you mean???
>doesnt wanna spoil the episode >"That Key 'Better Call Saul' Death" >puts howard in the thumbnail anyway
Tony Dalton is such a great actor. Tony deserves a ton of respect for how incredible he was in that scene. A silent, simple, cold-blooded killer. Lalo enters the room, barely says anything but controls everything and gives an amazing send off to a great character. Amazing show. I'm going to miss that entire world.
@B0K0691
Жыл бұрын
Is Tony Dalton the son of Timothy Dalton or is that just a coincidence?
@JDdr86
Жыл бұрын
@@B0K0691 There's more than one Dalton family, and Tony is Mexican, not British.
@ollieox9181
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they'll do another spinoff with Badger and Skinny Pete - a sitcom - trying to make it as YT influencers.
@DaveyFish1
Жыл бұрын
That sounds terrible.. Not the spin off, the influencer thing haha
@robertzeis8873
Жыл бұрын
Lalo was one of the all time great TV villains. The first time I watched BCS through season 5, I couldn't wait for him to be killed. But the second time I watched the first five seasons, I appreciated how good he was as a character. Dalton absolutely nailed that role.
Patrick, in case you ever see this, I liked Howard from the beginning. The second it was revealed that Chuck was the actual reason why Jimmy didn't get hired on at HHM as a lawyer, I was like, "You know? Howards actually a good and likeable guy. Not near the arrogant prick they tried to make him out to be at first". You became one of my favorite actors from the show. I couldn't imagine the show without you. Broke my heart that you got killed off like that. Bravo, Patrick!
@Shadynastys532
10 ай бұрын
EXACTLYY!
@shlock1558
10 ай бұрын
Preach! I felt the same!
@C-eo1rt
8 ай бұрын
I think Jimmy misplaced a lot of anger towards Howard that was meant for Chuck. Because Chuck used Howard to be the fall guy in why Jimmy was not hired for HHM. He manipulated both Chuck and Howard. Steering Howard to make decisions, which Howard knew were not right but felt compelled to go with since he looked up to Chuck as a mentor (mirroring how Jimmy looked up to Chuck).By the time the truth came out, it was hard for Jimmy to see Howard as anything other than Chuck's accomplice, when in reality he had also been used by Chuck.
@ElectricFury
7 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I started off thinking he was a dick but as soon as the Chuck reveal happened my opinion of Howard completely flipped. I mean he still had done a few dickish things but he really had no true ill-will towards Jimmy and was just playing in Chuck's court.
@thisguybro
7 ай бұрын
Church
the way the candle flutters to the side to show someone opened the door.. so good
That candle air movement moment is a film making masterclass on its own
@mercesletifer47
5 күн бұрын
THIS! 👌👌👌
Better Call Saul is a Masterpiece
@HOTD108_
Жыл бұрын
I like Breaking Bad, but Better Call Saul is just a while other level of greatness.
@TheMixCurator
Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, when they announced Better Call Saul I was a bit puzzled as to why they chose him. I thought they'd go with the Fring story, but I've been overwhelmed at how good BCS is. The cinematography in the first season made my mouth drop open. My partner is an editor for Netflix/TV and she also found this series incredible. Its just such a gift to us all, especially after the lukewarm El Camino.
@F.Castle
Жыл бұрын
It took me 2-3 season before really getting into though
@estarriol7
Жыл бұрын
It is. It is clearly better than Breaking Bad to me. I am now trying to decide whether it is better than The Wire, which I have considered to be the greatest TV show ever since I saw it about 17 years ago. I think I will have to rewatch both back-to-back. But if BCS isn't the best TV show I've ever watched, it is 2nd best. Just an absolute triumph of writing, directing, acting and cinematography.
@Aventsdor
Жыл бұрын
@@F.Castle so u mean once chuck dies 🤣
This scene legitimately stuck with me even after finishing the show. It was so well done.
Here is what broke my heart even more. Howard and Lalo being buried together. Howard deserves much better than being buried inside the same grave as his killer. Such a tragic character.
@vapelordthenord8235
11 ай бұрын
but its also cool because its both sides of the coin same fate
@tros_725
10 ай бұрын
for people that are wondering.... yes, both are in breaking bad, except when walt and jesse blow up the lab the only time howard is mentioned is by hank as 1 of 2 dead bodies kind of disturbing as hank and steve were buried in almost the same exact way as howard and lalo, same size burial and everything. it was crazy
@0ia
5 ай бұрын
@@tros_725I believe the 2 bodies were the men walt killed. Lalo/howard were under a few feet of concrete in contrast. There's debates you can find online about this.
@matt6872
Ай бұрын
@@tros_725the two bodies in the lab in breaking bad are gus’ henchmen
@tros_725
Ай бұрын
@@matt6872 i didnt know that then
Amazing dedication from Patrick Fabian to actually get shot on camera. Bravo!
@ericmpereira
Жыл бұрын
he was shot while being shot on camera
@ErdTirdMans
Жыл бұрын
I'm always so impressed with method actors. It's a shame he was functionally deaf for a few days after, but I couldn't even tell that they had Tony Dalton shoot through his ear rather than his temple. Movie magic!
@Taebot64
Жыл бұрын
@@ErdTirdMans honestly it felt too fake to me, just through the ear? They couldn't have easily done better
@LAVATORR
Жыл бұрын
It's not really that impressive if you know Vince Gilligan only casted Patrick Fabian for his famous ability to absorb multiple close-range gunshot wounds on camera. (It's an old circus trick passed down from generation to generation in the Fabian household.)
@LAVATORR
Жыл бұрын
@@ericmpereira Patrick is a method actor who frequently shot himself between takes to get into character. He really wanted to nail the delivery of Howard's now-legendary line, "OW! Lalo, why did you shoot me in the head like that you FUCK???"
I'm convinced Jimmy is going to prison. Listen to Bob's words carefully. He mentions consequences. This week's episode had Jimmy throwing the ball at his office wall until the pillar fell off, in his direction. The pillars of justice if you will. There's always some foreshadowing taking place in a good story. I think these are clues to how it's going to end.
@chananabips7009
Жыл бұрын
Then in the final episode, we get to see Jimmy get out of prison after years where he's old and outside the prison Kim is waiting to greet him and then they go do some crazy sh*t in the bar scamming people the end.
@chrisdawson1776
Жыл бұрын
gene is gonna commit suicide like his brother
@kiko1935
Жыл бұрын
@@chananabips7009 they obviously still have affection for each other but I think too much bad shit has gone down between them for there to be a reuniting at the end. Kim is on the path to redemption, gene is running away from his sins
@aaronnerswick2223
Жыл бұрын
my personal opinion. i think he's gonna die and their gonna do the same type of film shot like they did with walters death.
@benmeehan1111
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s going to end with him in prison, and then him giving the fellow inmates advice. Saul persona in prison basically
That candle flicker is haunting.
I find it kinda funny that Patrick speaks exactly like Howard outside of the role. I don't know why I assumed his voice was part of the act lol
they couldn't have used howard any better in the show, for me, howard's death will always be what drove kim away and pushed jimmy to fuly become saul goodman. I also love how the remorse of kim over the death of howard is playing out in the last episodes. It has been such an integrate part of the overall story and all the weight is felt because of Patrick's awesome preformance! Man I even felt guilty in hindsight laughing at the "howie" scene with the prostitutes because of what happened.
I have to say .The acting of Rhea and Bob as two people who saw someone they know personally and emotionally getting his head blown off is very realistic .
It's crazy that patrick fabian is still alive, i was under the impression that they actually shot him in the head to make that scene
If you had told me at the beginning of the show that eventually I'd be crying over Howard I wouldn't haven't believed you. That episode and the aftermath of Howard's death are so incredibly horrifying and tragic. The show really smacks you in the face with how unrelentingly they show the gut-wrenching consequences of Jimmy and Kim's behavior. Howard goes from a guy you barely care about, to someone you actively dislike, and finally to one of the most sympathetic and tragic characters in the whole story and someone you genuinely admire. The whole show is beautifully written, but thinking about Howard still gets me choked up.
Love how concerned Rhea was that Patrick didn't know he was being killed. 🥰 This ensamble has just been the absolute best, not a weak link anywhere in any of the seasons. That Patrick Fabian got a sort of sendoff in the memorial episode with all the photos taken from his real social media.
This scene will keep haunting me no matter how many times I see it. It's so raw, so shocking, so unexpected, and so fast! Everything that happened to Howard made us all root for the guy when it was way too late. He didn't deserve any of it. I think he was the only character with at least some will to become a better person eventually, to keep working on himself unlike any of the other characters on BCS and BB. I'm glad at least his wife got to know the truth instead of thinking he just committed suicide and was a drug addict. Great redemption arc and development. Amazing
@denisesudell2538
Жыл бұрын
Kim also has the will to become a better person. That’s why she leaves Jimmy, and also why she eventually returns to ABQ and confesses.
@drdramatik
Жыл бұрын
@@denisesudell2538 Not really. She just feels guilty and basically helpless since there's not much she can do
@davidshatto7604
Жыл бұрын
@@drdramatik guilt may instigate the want to be better, but that does at least mean she wants to be better
@drdramatik
Жыл бұрын
@@davidshatto7604 Just because she feels guilty doesn't mean she wants to be better. The only thing we've seen her see is write an affidavit, which we know she knows us worthless without a body or proof. She's essentially just trying to make herself feel better since she can't right her wrongs.
@lilaclunablossom
Жыл бұрын
I agree Howard's arc is great but Kim and Nacho both try and become better too..
The fact that he says I’ll bounce back and then the shot of his head bouncing off the fucking table is so brutal
Their reactions are so genuine, they don’t react like Lalo shot Howard, they react like Tony Dalton shot Patrick Fabian
I like how Lalo doesn't even give the audience to have a moment either here. The viewers are in the same boat as Jim and Kim where we were really not expecting such a good character to have such a disposable death. He just vanishes in a second. And you aren't given a moment to process it properly and it is straight into more cartel business. When it happened I was in complete shock. Such a great turning point for the show
Patrick himself is a nice guy, chatting with extras and asking about their prospects when everyone else just works around them.
The definition of “this character didn’t deserve any of this”
0:00 - yeah… forget spoiler warnings anymore…
"Look more dead." LOL. Man, I hate that all this is coming to an end. Another fantastic series just as good and maybe even better than BB. Normally, when there's a spinoff to a hit series, they fail. This was a flying success and I wish somehow they could strike gold with another spinoff from this. What a special combination. With everything from writers, directors, actors, cameras, set design. They have it all. They should be so proud of this.
@DPMusicStudio
Жыл бұрын
I feel you on every point here. I actually think BCS is better than BB, as well. Vince Gilligan has said that this is his last foray into the Breaking Bad universe. I cannot WAIT until he announces his next project. He's one of the greatest showrunners and writers of our generation. He's in rare territory with David Chase, David Simon, and Matthew Weiner in my book.
@tirullow6313
Жыл бұрын
@@DPMusicStudio i hope that's the case. Every character has pretty much a closure now. And the actors are showing the signs of age for any prequel.
Damn this just shows how insanely talented Patrick Fabian is as an actor. They never rehearsed the scene and yet he was able to take a bullet to the head like a champ and then just bounce right up. Amazing. Shows the beauty of the breaking bad series and all of its actors.
Been waiting to watch this until I saw the episode, which I did tonight. Bob shouting "no" in the scene is just absolutely heartbreaking, it's amazing how even in a KZread video where I was laughing just a second ago, hearing that again I just feel harrowed lol. I really believe he's this guy they really hate who they've also known for a really long time and don't want to be dead. What sucks is if they were all friends and Howard was just visiting, he still would have died.
I kept replaying the scene in my head for like two or three days after I watched that episode. Completely unexpected and I felt so bad for Howard, he was not in the "Game" and did not deserve it at all. It truly shows the level of danger being in the "Game" brings, even if you are not in it, you never know how close it is to you. We got to see Howard's progression, getting somewhat attached to him, and just like that, in a blink he's done. He was a nobody to Lalo, just in the way of his goals. Wrong place wrong time. The sad part, think of how often things like this happen in real life to people around the world. This show is a masterpiece.
I absolutely love how healthy and supportive this work environment seems, really a stark contrast to how most of the film industry operates. And it pays off, you don't need to be an asshole to bring out the best in your actors (and everyone else involved too)
@checkoutmyyoutubepage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that. They are highly praised professionals.
@kristofferlove43
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts too! Vince Gilligan is such a nice guy. Some directors get away with being abusive assholes just because they created a blockbuster hit. But Vince is different. Being a nice boss and a nice person all around is such a nice boost to workplace morale. Bravo Vince!
@njcurmudgeon
Жыл бұрын
In every interview I have seen with Vince Gilligan, he has always praised the people around him and talks about how much better it was because he listened to them. I think he set the tone for the different people who directed the individual episodes and it brought out the best in everyone on both sides of the camera.
@isaiahromero9861
Жыл бұрын
@@njcurmudgeon exactly, he trusts and respects the people that work for him, and that creates an environment where writers can freely bounce ideas off each other, that way creativity can really thrive and you can feel the passion and excitement from the people involved even just watching the show
Amazing show, amazing scene. All of you played it perfectly. Bob and Rhea, your horror was real. Kudos to all.
"A lot of characters' brains moving really fast" Figuratively and literally...
I love how excited and passionate Patrick is when describing his final few scenes. Phenomenal actor all around!
That was an incredibly well shot scene. Left me with my mouth open in surprise!
@basilbrush9075
Жыл бұрын
Well shot
@davidci
Жыл бұрын
It also left Howard's mouth wide open too
@md.mohaiminulislam9644
Жыл бұрын
@@davidci that's the whole point. the joke was too subtle maybe.
@TyrellW
Жыл бұрын
mindblowing
@KhrisMiddletonFitnessOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@md.mohaiminulislam9644 The joke went in one ear and out the other.
*titles "How That ‘Better Call Saul’ Death" to avoid spoilers *puts the face of who dies in the thumbnail, defeating the title altogether and spoiling anyone who glances at the title and thumbnail
Rhea should win all awards in the universe!
@tjenadonn6158
Жыл бұрын
Easily the breakout star of BCS.
@radicalxg8282
Жыл бұрын
If Rhea doesnt win an Emmy for this i'll riot
@optimusprime028
Жыл бұрын
@@radicalxg8282 Sadly they would just give it to Zendaya mate.
@alonsosanchez8776
Жыл бұрын
Better than Aaron, Bob, Anna, or anybody else… except Bryan Cranston, of course.
@movieboxpro8715
Жыл бұрын
@@alonsosanchez8776 not Bob tho, Bob is top, the way he plays Jimmy, Saul and Gene is so convincing
The feeling of loving Jimmy’s antics at the beginning of the season vs this moment is just something indescribable
When burying Lalo and Howard, Mike Ehrmantraut could care less about Lalo’s body, but he told his lackey’s to take it easy with Howard’s body. He knew Howard wasn’t “in the game” and didn’t deserve what happened to him. Mike always did what he had to, but seemed to always respect and be humane towards the innocents caught up in “the game”.
This was truly one of the biggest shocks I've had to a TV episode in a long time.
i adore how much patrick fabian very clearly loves his job
This is the oldest Bob Odenkirk has ever looked.
Patrick Fabian looks like a 22 year old surfer dude, and a 60 year old man who likes motorcycles at the same time.
Only in a perfect world can you get such talented actors, writers, and producers all together on one show. Blessed to have gotten the opportunity to watch this "live."
I really started to identify with Howard during BCS because I also had issues with depression and thinking low of myself. As KIK01 has already mentioned in the comments here, he is the only character in the show who has worked on himself and tried to be a better person and tried to make up for his mistakes. Therefore, Howard is my favourite character on the show and seeing him facing such a terrible fate, broke literally my heart. I cried my eyes out during that episode but nontheless I carry Howards spirit in my heart: debt, depression, relationships falling apart - no matter what you're facing, you'll land on your feet. I think he is a role model to us all ❤ I apologise for my English on this point, I'm from Germany and English is not my mother tongue 😊
@Epicurus341
11 ай бұрын
You have nothing to apologise for - your English is excellent. Some of my fellow Brits could not have written something so insightful and lucid.😃
@user-es5fm7jx4u
10 ай бұрын
I hope you feel better now
@Obito80440
10 ай бұрын
Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
5:23 Howard's brains in particular moved very fast in that scene
Breaking Bad had some of the most intense shocking scenes i’ve ever seen in any film/tv ever, Janes death, Walt running over the killers with his car, the crawl space, the child murder after the train heist, Hank finding out it was Walt all along, the Nazis showing up in the desert, Hanks death, so many scenes where i was literally shouting at the screen, after it ended i thought no other film or show will produce this feeling again where i’m completely on the edge of my seat like i’m actually there with the characters in those intense scenes, and then Better Call Saul came along. I don’t think i’ve ever in my entire life experienced the shock that was seeing Howard get shot in the head, by far the most shocking scene i’ve ever seen in any film or show. It really felt like witnessing a loved one being murdered in front of you, the entire day after i saw this episode i couldn’t get it out my head and how dark and unfair what happened was. It’s crazy that i used to like Lalo in a bad guy but he’s charming kind of way he was fun to watch but after this i never wanted a character to suffer so bad, what a truly evil human being. The writing of this show and Breaking Bad is simply out of this world, the ability to make audiences literally shout at the screen in shock is something unbelievably rare and is a testament to how unbelievably smart they are.
@bfab7036
Жыл бұрын
The elevator scene at the end of The Departed had a similar initial shock factor, but the after effect of this BCS one was so much more. I sat in silence for a good while at the end of this episode.
@vmindope
Жыл бұрын
It was the same for me! Jaw dropped and speechless after Lalo shot Howard. And was still thinking about it at my workplace the next morning. Same with Nacho's death. Although, Howards death was more shocking, Nacho's death hit me too.
@kiko1935
Жыл бұрын
@@bfab7036 that one still gets me
@bfab7036
Жыл бұрын
@@vmindope yeah we knew Nacho was going to die, and it was great, but expected. Howard was just a huge slam in the gut
@temple13
Жыл бұрын
The day after that episode I told my girlfriend I had witnessed the most shocking scene I had ever viewed on TV. That gun went off and I said "holy shit!" so loud I thought I had woke her up. What a scene, just outstanding. And Lalo, what a joy to watch. On the most recent episode of Talking Saul Gould or Gilligan said that Lalo was the happiest character on BCS. Which is true. None of the other individuals in BSC showed joy...but Lalo, that dude was cheerful. Best writing on TV since Mad Men (IMO). Rivals Mad Men.
The crazy thing is not only that they're all incredible actors but they seem even nicer human beings
That's what Howard gets for not calling (informing) Saul He could've took the script in court and mingle it
Bob odenkirks scream will give chills always
As much as it must suck to know your character will die and you won't get a chance to play him anymore, it's gotta be worth something to know that the tragedy of your character's death will end up being one of the most harrowing, meaningful, memorable, and talked about moments of the entire show. Talk about going out with a bang. You never fully appreciate the Howard you have until you lose him.
Im actually sad that Better call saul is 1 episode away from ending forever
“A lot of characters’ brains moving very fast” well Bob that’s one way of putting it
Howard’s whole ending broke my heart into a million pieces
This is one of my favorite scenes in BCS. I didn’t expect Howard to die at all, much less so suddenly at the hands of a character not involved with his story at all. Masterful writing
The coolest part of this scene, for me, is that candle swoosh. You just feel that sense of uncertainty and it's unsettling.
Just wanted to comment and say your thumbnail alone spoiled this huge moment in the show for me and I will never forgive you.
Patrick Fabian should have got an Emmy for that performance. Hands down one of the best scenes on television. Right up there with Michael Imperioli killing those brothers at Satriale's in The Serpranos.
In all the shocking scenes of either BCS or BB, this one probably was the biggest gut punch of them all. And so perfectly done. Everyone involved should be showered with awards. Also, Patrick Fabian seems like one of the most fun guys to be around.
That candles acting was impeccable.
So glad they could put all this behind them and move on. Glad everyone made a full recovery.
honestly this is an example of how a good death can be good for an actor. howard's character had been sort of lingering after the chuck thing for a while, and that death (along with the scam) cemented him as one of the best characters in the show, and fabian as an incredible actor. if howard had just sort of hung around after the scam being depressed, nobody would really be talking about howard hamlin
Seeing this show, it redefines what a prequel can be. BB will not be the same to me, especially every scene in the Gus meth lab
@moonlitee
Жыл бұрын
FUUUUCK I JUST REALIZED THEY'RE BURRIED IN THE LAB 🥺
@zoeyzee6261
Жыл бұрын
@@moonlitee bruhhh the fly episode makes sense now
Patrick seems like an absolute sweet heart.
one of the best scenes in any show ever, in one of if not the best show ive ever seen.
"A lot of characters brains moving very fast" Nice choice of words, right Howard?
Watching this I realized how much I miss Howard in the show. His death really left a void!
Couldn’t have been written, directed, or acted any better. Plain and simple.
This is why I don’t watch shows, you get attached to the characters, and when they are gone feel so sad.
It was the most fucked up death in the entire series.