How Tekken 8 reduced Steve to a mere Piece of Trash..

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  • @Kilesfactor
    @Kilesfactor3 ай бұрын

    Nerfed voice, nerfed jawline, nerfed game play, why’d he even come back? Just take a break, Steven Foxulius.

  • @nugget3327

    @nugget3327

    3 ай бұрын

    That YAH was so raw, I hated that got removed

  • @anqr7193

    @anqr7193

    3 ай бұрын

    “You wanna try me guv?” Now in T8 he just sounds nerdy lol

  • @finn4at

    @finn4at

    3 ай бұрын

    You're just crying, that's all, why then are all the same professional players who played T7 for Steve still playing for Steve in T8 and carrying out combinations for 100 damage? Stop whining and learn new combinations on this character

  • @Kilesfactor

    @Kilesfactor

    3 ай бұрын

    @@finn4at I am crying. I wish British people were real and yet, Namco Bandai fucking made me wish that they weren’t. How awful, truly and wholly awful.

  • @Xavier-ns2ic

    @Xavier-ns2ic

    3 ай бұрын

    @@finn4atyes because combos are all you need to succeed with an objectively worse and downgraded character, evo japan here I come

  • @helplesskiwi
    @helplesskiwi3 ай бұрын

    T7 Steve was one of my favorite characters to watch. Now he's just.......... 😢

  • @LeiChaobruh
    @LeiChaobruh3 ай бұрын

    They nerfed his jawline bad 😖

  • @djw_tekken8490

    @djw_tekken8490

    3 ай бұрын

    Worst nerf actually😢 Even tho im Jin main since years I did a 50 win streak in tekken5 against my cousen and brother back in the days😂

  • @jovan180

    @jovan180

    3 ай бұрын

    Its the cheekbones, I equipped an eyepatch and it clips into his cheek like its not made for his face shape.

  • @foreveruseless1292

    @foreveruseless1292

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah rip

  • @Boultify

    @Boultify

    3 ай бұрын

    Can we mod tekken 7 steve for tekken 8

  • @sleepykoharu

    @sleepykoharu

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro didn't mewed

  • @kemalerdemsahin410
    @kemalerdemsahin4103 ай бұрын

    If i list the things that make me pissed about T8 Steve, it will never end so I'm only gonna mention about two things that really annoys me. Most of the characters still keeping their ws ch launchers like Bryan or Raven. But unlike other characters, Steve's ws ch launcher was super vital to his gameplan for duck stance pressure or ch baiting. And now THE counter hit character doesn't have that but other chars does. How's that fair? They even nerfed his uf4 hopkick like if it was broken or something

  • @koolestkman5945

    @koolestkman5945

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm trying to understand what they were trying to prevent by toning this stuff down. He was good in Tekken 7, but there wasn't ever a time where I felt like the match up was just completely unfair like it is fighting a dragonov on T8 or something.

  • @KrisDee1981

    @KrisDee1981

    3 ай бұрын

    Hopkick was pretty much useless anyways and worse than uf2. But at least now it's a safe CH launcher so I'm not sure if that is really a nerf 🤔 It's slow and hitbox is shit but now you sometimes place it in a niche situation without worrying about being punished.

  • @Boultify

    @Boultify

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@KrisDee1981Remember players used steve uf 4 to punish law on dfs stance. It is not possible now😢

  • @kylefields3951

    @kylefields3951

    3 ай бұрын

    As a former Steve Main who thinks a lot about Tekken and is enjoying 8 despite some obvious flaws, I think the idea is that The Tekken Team wanted to have Steve as a character who could retaliate on people who swung back, but wanted to go about it in a different way than with raw Hitboxes (things like Back 1, Down Forward 2, While Standing 2, etc.) Now Steve has Manual Lionheart which is like Back Kenpo with Feng. Feng's idea is that he's trying to poke you, frustrate you, and make you make a mistake, then boom, Back Kenpo. Instead of Steve Launching you on Counter-Hit, he entices you to swing, and then uses Manual Lionheart as a Whiff Punish off retaliation. He's still trying to punish the opponent for swinging, but in a different way. Lionheart is not a bad addition, but so many things were outright subtracted, or changed, that this new thing they gave him can't possibly fill the void of what was removed. All this in addition to him not being able to control the 3D element as tightly as before thanks to Lateral Movement being stronger across the board in 8. It can't be understated how important it was that Steve's Tracking was busted so that it forced the opponent's timing into narrower windows and made it easier to land Counter-Hits. I can't say what Namco's intentions are, but I think they wanted Steve as more of a Counter-Hit and Movement character rather than just a Counter-Hitter. But to do so, they'd probably need to commit to that and give Steve a Heat Sway or Heat Lionheart, or Heat Flicker in addition to his Heat Duck-In.

  • @koolestkman5945

    @koolestkman5945

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kylefields3951 thanks for this. I'm not a super in depth Steve player myself, but I am familiar with how to play against the character with a good amount of the cast. I just don't understand why in a game with Lee having a lot of his weaknesses removed and keeping the strengths, we get examples like Bryan losing his knock down off 3+4 or his magic 4 counter hit. It's the same deal with steve. They removed those things, but some characters kept their dirt and not only got new shit, but also had their weaknesses removed

  • @MJfp6lx
    @MJfp6lx3 ай бұрын

    I havent seen any tekken tuber talk about this so ill mention it. Apart from aesthetic and gameplay nerfs they've kinda nerfed Steve's identity. T4-T7 his identity was he waa great at punching. But had no poking kicks mix ups throw game Oki so his punches hit hardest. In T8 they took that away and gave him average LH stance which puts the steve player at disadvantage and his heat where again his punches are weaker now but he has a throw that can be broken and gives average damage. Ive seen Heera Knee JDCR Low High Steve getting punched around by King Dragunov Lilly Jun Paul Azucena Jin and characters who can challenge Steve's punches but are also stronger than him at poking Mix ups launches throw game combo damage and the difference in power of new heat mechanics between Steve and top tiers like Jun Azucena Dragunov actually show how dirty they did Steve in this game. Even heera Malik and low high barely manage to hit those heat mechanics once a month. Whereas Azucena Dragunov heat mechanics never seem to miss. Literally never. Even complete newbies manage to challenge these steve goats with these characters

  • @Dead-Lit

    @Dead-Lit

    3 ай бұрын

    Before seeing how T8 Steve Fox would look in the game, I imagined that it would be ideal for his poke mixup to be more varied, with some faster lows than the ones he has had. But what did we get in exchange?: a new stance that in many situations leaves you at a disadvantage, with the aggravating factor that all of its general damage was reduced. A real and absolute disappointment.

  • @Tk.Bogarts
    @Tk.Bogarts3 ай бұрын

    So they nerfed his combo damage took away everything that made him look cool/gave him Leos Voice and nerfed literally everything possible and expected us to still enjoy him?

  • @sqrawnee7696

    @sqrawnee7696

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah I had same thoughts as well so I had to switch to Bryan it's really a shame Steve going down this route

  • @Venkullix

    @Venkullix

    3 ай бұрын

    at least yall got him my favorite character isnt in game and i dont even know if they'll be added 😭

  • @kumonelend5400

    @kumonelend5400

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@Venkullix who's your character?

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Venkullixyeah we got him but at what cost?

  • @JobeLovo

    @JobeLovo

    3 ай бұрын

    It feels like they intentionally made him so ppl don't like him

  • @sugoi9680
    @sugoi96803 ай бұрын

    Steve in T7: Counter hit launchers Steve in T8: No launchers

  • @RR35031
    @RR350313 ай бұрын

    if he was DLC he would be op af

  • @DESUstroke
    @DESUstroke3 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: shiro combo was in the game in the latest CNT and pre-release demo, it was possible to get the gatling pickup at least from FLK f2 and EX DCK 1

  • @Edmitsu
    @Edmitsu3 ай бұрын

    Removing the gataling combo is yet another example that the devs hate their player base. Don’t even play Steve but that’s the combo I always see when I think about him. To me that’s a huge part of his identity.

  • @nobiisok9572
    @nobiisok95723 ай бұрын

    Seeing this I miss Tekken 7 Steve, I don't mind him no longer being a high tier but man they did him dirty

  • @kingsus_64
    @kingsus_643 ай бұрын

    This vid really shines a spot light that i didnt see before because i never really played steve Like T7 Steve is this amazingly designed character with so much variety to him along with being one of the most technical characters in the game. He rewards players that are willing to dig deep in his mechanics and use his wide array of tools to get whatever edge they can. Rewarding the player with a versatile beast of a character. T8 Steve in comparison is genuinely disappointing from this perspective, all that versatility and variety you got in T7 replaced by "LionFart stance" and Ch follow ups. Its really sad to see this character water down this badly. I tried to downplay it and say "Well hes still a good character, he still got b1 lol" but honestly, it pains me to see this character take a massive hit to what made him so interesting in the first place

  • @monkeyenthusiast4541
    @monkeyenthusiast45413 ай бұрын

    anything that couldve possibly launched on counter hit now just goes into lion heart, which is immediately beat out by any power crush 🙃

  • @LudFoesBeanie
    @LudFoesBeanie3 ай бұрын

    That DF2 nerf is one of his biggest hinders

  • @trompettegilles9502
    @trompettegilles95023 ай бұрын

    Instead of doing damage, now he just DANCE ! X,D

  • @kiryukazuma7960
    @kiryukazuma79603 ай бұрын

    Dude got his mewing technique taken away and given the botox treatment. The actual nerf.

  • @jakamahadika7605

    @jakamahadika7605

    3 ай бұрын

    LMFQO

  • @isaiahtee9846

    @isaiahtee9846

    3 ай бұрын

    Even his voice has 0 testosterone. They made him mid transition. Although i think thats brave and im happy for the lgbtqa+ community, i hope they make him fully trans like seth from sfv with breasts and stuff and it would be unironically better.

  • @mrt5069
    @mrt50693 ай бұрын

    I adore how effortlessly you do the hardest combos in tekken, hope someday to be 1% as skillfull as you) Great content as always!

  • @jamesmeikle7216
    @jamesmeikle72163 ай бұрын

    Letting players be creative? Gone Reward with unconventional launchers that requires top tier execution? Gone Threatening CH game? Gone Just press the new shitty canned Lionheart strings into suicide stance. Top 3 difficulty character is bottom 2 strength. What kinda incompetent devs do that to a character? Df2 is the biggest one because Lee keeps a HOMING safe CH launching mid with a piss easy combo, but df2 which balanced itself with the extreme execution shiro combo had to go? Only 2 in 10 Steve's could even pull it off online

  • @iamauriyone3035

    @iamauriyone3035

    3 ай бұрын

    YESS This is what I have been talking about. Like the top 2% of Steve know how to play well and somehow the devs think he needs to be nerfed. If you look at his online winrate its literally bottom 3 I think. NOBODY wins with him because he's too hard to pick for even regular players

  • @jamesmeikle7216

    @jamesmeikle7216

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly. I've even had every person in my main group of Tekken friends go through the same experience of "you only win cos Steve is OP anyone can win with him cos he's always safe" then they try him and give up after 2-3 days and don't say a word about losing to him anymore.

  • @xjwr385
    @xjwr3853 ай бұрын

    his b1 actually hits like a wet noodle rn

  • @cascaA18

    @cascaA18

    3 ай бұрын

    No wall no damage sadly

  • @exiledhebrew1994

    @exiledhebrew1994

    3 ай бұрын

    back 1 spam was boring to watch and boring to fight against

  • @controlpain9314

    @controlpain9314

    3 ай бұрын

    Have you faught king? Youre just teching grabs and guessing 50/​50s??@exiledhebrew1994

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    2 ай бұрын

    and he got buffed AGAIN​@@controlpain9314

  • @Valigarmanda

    @Valigarmanda

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@exiledhebrew1994You the to nerd about the properties of EWGF and how "traditionally Tekken" it is? because you sound like it, nerd.

  • @danknstein6504
    @danknstein65043 ай бұрын

    they really slam dunked his ass into the trash can lmao they broke the backboard

  • @kingAngel53103
    @kingAngel531033 ай бұрын

    Biggest nerf is his VA lmfao

  • @BronzeAgePepper

    @BronzeAgePepper

    3 ай бұрын

    his in-game voice clips needed a refresh, but not like this....

  • @killerratchet1973

    @killerratchet1973

    3 ай бұрын

    "i'm not playing around" Sounds like a whimp lol

  • @luxolars6316
    @luxolars63163 ай бұрын

    Man, you should more of these videos going into detail about the changes of characters from 7 to 8

  • @foxsteve9937
    @foxsteve99373 ай бұрын

    right weave 12 its what hurt me the most since we got almost no launchers now , also ws2 ch since we got no df2 anymore they wanna remove all the launchers from steve looks like. i dont want lionheart mixups cmon harada

  • @TheJerseyNightmare
    @TheJerseyNightmare3 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is basically everything i feared it would be. All of the demanding execution/difficuot to play characters get nerfed in either execution or gameplan. All of the easy and braindead characters get even easier to use by being stronger than the ones that require brain cells. I honestly think I might be done with Tekken...

  • @warfighter1988
    @warfighter19883 ай бұрын

    He's just another flowchart mixupish character not a counterhit character. Such a shame I swear everyday i play steve it just gets worse man. Why no difficult wall combo anymore why no tiny combo from df 2 shiro counterhit why emphasises his weaknesses more while nerfing his strengths even further than ever before. And dont forget they did all of this in a game where almost everyone is busted or the best theyve ever beeen with just crazy one hit death buttons and superpowers in heat. Theres so much wrong with steve compared to the rest of the cast just from a fundamental design standpoint (domt get me started on that botox face) that i feel like they either wont fix him or if they do itll take years. I dont mind him being weak at all but dumbing down his gameplay and taking away his character gameplay identity as a counterhit puncher is just sad.

  • @myriggatony
    @myriggatony3 ай бұрын

    It took me way too long to hit ruler with him lol. You have to have damn near perfect execution, defense, reads to do good at "high level" in my experience. I have no desire to play anyone else either so it blows hard...

  • @sixonesix3915

    @sixonesix3915

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean if you want to feel privileged again play Xiaoyu Both characters have a mid ranged mid,high f2,1 into stance mixup The high on HER f2,1 jails though 😂 now that's what true privilege in this game looks like

  • @myriggatony

    @myriggatony

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sixonesix3915 Oh I know I felt her privilege plenty of times😂she’s one of my worst matchups, so much bs

  • @ilkerpektas751
    @ilkerpektas7513 ай бұрын

    Damn... i am maining Steve Tekken 8 and i knew that there was a difference to Tekken 7 and that he got comparatively weaker but i did not know that there was THIS MUCH of a difference... gosh i wanna try Tekken 7 Steve now ._.

  • @oreowithurea5018

    @oreowithurea5018

    3 ай бұрын

    Wait till you see what the monstrosity he was during S2 of Tekken 7, but if you wanna go more ancient, he was straight up bully in Tekken 5. Easily most broken non boss character in History of tekken

  • @albroly2394

    @albroly2394

    3 ай бұрын

    @@oreowithurea5018S2 of Tekken 7 was sooooo goood bro 😂😂 2 b1 ch and you are dead

  • @JobeLovo

    @JobeLovo

    3 ай бұрын

    He was so much more fun and hes cooler with better outfits

  • @jumpfold
    @jumpfold3 ай бұрын

    Dam the voice really kills it for me.

  • @drem3113
    @drem31138 күн бұрын

    They really put Steve in Tekken 8 as an accessory. Players who decide to main him have my utmost respect and my condolences

  • @nosleep_bk
    @nosleep_bk3 ай бұрын

    forced lionheart transitions were all I needed to drop him tbh

  • @cascaA18

    @cascaA18

    3 ай бұрын

    There’s tech to go into peekaboo but it’s gonna take some crazy practice to get it consistent

  • @user-bp9xt9zr3o

    @user-bp9xt9zr3o

    3 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@cascaA18Add online you'll be ducking in there faces they can hoop kick you and your done

  • @jamesmeikle7216

    @jamesmeikle7216

    3 ай бұрын

    It's also not very good. I have it to about an 85% success rate but you can still just get hit because going into peekaboo doesn't let you block immediately, and you're still giving up all of your frame advantage just because you don't want to enter the suicide stance. It's like a little band aid on missing limb

  • @friendlyfire2374

    @friendlyfire2374

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cascaA18 I heard it was just a glitch and not something you could practice. It is ridiculously hard to pull offf that tech.

  • @cascaA18

    @cascaA18

    2 ай бұрын

    @@friendlyfire2374 yeah if they jab it still hits it’s pretty rough

  • @MrJesseFisher
    @MrJesseFisher3 ай бұрын

    This game is just rly fun to look at, even when it’s a video showcasing something unsatisfactory.

  • @squiddyseut6103
    @squiddyseut61033 ай бұрын

    It really makes me wonder if the team that worked on 8 was the same one that worked on 7. They made so many baffling changes and the one that upsets me the most was removing shiro combo. That was an extremely hard combo that rewarded people for putting time into the game and character, with df2 having a reasonable startup for a ch launcher. But because they want to appeal to new players who want to see things on screen and almost immediately do it they remove it to equal the footing for everyone. It's even worse that shiro combo was left in the beta for a single move, just for it to be immediately removed on release.

  • @sixonesix3915
    @sixonesix39153 ай бұрын

    Steve was the first character I tried in Tekken 8 and it really gave me the wrong impression of their balancing approach for this game He's had to make all sorts of concessions in exchange for even the most minor buffs while the top tiers all just get significantly bigger buffs with next to no drawbacks

  • @gmblunder8195
    @gmblunder81953 ай бұрын

    For a character conceptually focused around counter hits, T8 seemed to remove a lot of counter hit rewards from him. I do get they probably want a poke, pressure, and grounded style out of Steve (boxer) but it currently pales even to his own archetype. IMO, as long as T8 brings back most of the shiro properties, sonic fang launch on heat, and other ways to LH cancel even with subpar damage output will put him back to the top. Just let him strike fear to the opponents with a bag of counter hits.

  • @HELLRAISER02
    @HELLRAISER023 ай бұрын

    Something i dont understand is why cant steve choose to cancel into his stances with some moves? I play negan and bryan so its just odd that those 2 can choose to cancel but steve cant, which means going from db32 must either go into lion heart pressure or you gotta get rid of your plus frames to cancel it, so odd to me

  • @nensho._
    @nensho._3 ай бұрын

    before in t7 he relied in execution, now it's all cus of that new lion heart mixup where you could probably just downjab and be stolen a turn.

  • @solaymantadmori1447
    @solaymantadmori14473 ай бұрын

    The worst part is that lionheart itself is just dogshit so he lost everything for nothing

  • @kylefields3951

    @kylefields3951

    3 ай бұрын

    Lionheart isn't even bad honestly, it's just that the things they changed put him into Lionheart whereas they used to do something else, which skews the perception. If Steve just had the first hit of While Standing 2 as a Counter-Hit Launcher but could still do the 2 extension as a Mixup, or still had Right Sway 1, 2 but could do Right Sway 1, Back 2 or something as the new Lionheart Option that would be good. Lionheart IS NOT BAD. It's that they're forcing you to use it, and that the moves they put it on used to do something else, and was better and had less risk and variance.

  • @ThePlKLE

    @ThePlKLE

    3 ай бұрын

    Lionheart is pretty bad though. It's good if you use it raw fishing for a whiff, but out of almost every string that puts you in it, all three options are beat by power crush​ unless you do the pkb cancel that's a bug, or backsway 1+2 which is a grab that does 0 damage midscreen@@kylefields3951

  • @jDiddyi

    @jDiddyi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kylefields3951 nah it's bad. Flash straight up comes out faster even after earning the hit to LH. You can't quickly cancel it into block. Steve's fastest option leaves you at -9 and can be parried. His ducking guard break was removed in exchange for a slow LH 1+2 that can be STEPPED, DUCKED, ARMORED AND RA, when it should be homing and break armor. At minimum Steve should've had the ability to both cancel any LH transition and block. Maybe even be able to Kenpo again from LH.

  • @kylefields3951

    @kylefields3951

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jDiddyi The reason Steve can't Kenpo Step again from Lionheart is that if he could then he could loop it and go backwards too fast for anyone to catch him. Like an even better "Ha-Ha" Step. I really do think people would view Lionheart in a better light if it didn't replace moves that used to do something else and was a pure addition rather than a change. Even if options have high coverage, you can still Sway, and Sway is stronger and gets around more tools like Power Crushes.

  • @shynshyl5273
    @shynshyl52733 ай бұрын

    my honeymoon phase with tekken 8 is done, and now i just dont want to play the game every other game has the shittiest connection ever, the inability to play longer sets after the bo3 and in player match, balancing leaves a lot to be desired, and much more i hope they fix it, but at this point i think i would have more fun playing t7

  • @rolandmarks468
    @rolandmarks4683 ай бұрын

    I don’t care how 🗑️ Steve is I’m rocking with him to the end

  • @akuaku9427
    @akuaku94273 ай бұрын

    This makes me so sad. Its so hard to be a steve main. I dont want to change..

  • @bobmishima3295
    @bobmishima32953 ай бұрын

    Sad times when King is a better counterhit character than Steve

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    2 ай бұрын

    the "counter hit paragon" is gone

  • @Estwood9
    @Estwood93 ай бұрын

    I'm convinced Harada simply hates Steve for him to be as bad as he is

  • @JobeLovo

    @JobeLovo

    3 ай бұрын

    Not just that they also make him ugly with no drip and his voice..

  • @mikeshinwa3398
    @mikeshinwa33983 ай бұрын

    My god they absolutely gutted Steve. Idk what the hell the balancing team is smoking.

  • @Ncholas369
    @Ncholas3692 ай бұрын

    hey can i ask what punch do you use before gattling gun in the wall

  • @raijinxfujin7314
    @raijinxfujin73143 ай бұрын

    It sad when you look at the potential Steve had in the cracked version, he genuinely looked like he would’ve fit into the roster way more than his release version

  • @danielrezadilla9615
    @danielrezadilla96153 ай бұрын

    As Asuka main we welcome you to the club Steve Fahking hell they did our character dirty in 8

  • @JobeLovo

    @JobeLovo

    3 ай бұрын

    Steve was done way dirtier

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    2 ай бұрын

    atleast asuka still is easy to play tho

  • @Gianno_
    @Gianno_3 ай бұрын

    nerfed Steve to trash tier but buffs Feng, the best character of Tekken 7 and gives him a load of new cheap moves

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    2 ай бұрын

    because feng is haradas main

  • @giantstrawman543
    @giantstrawman5433 ай бұрын

    I think the funniest one is when you don't even get the second sonic fang hit as a guaranteed followup. You didn't have to let it convert into a launch but can't I at least spend my heat to get another followup??

  • @stevorama11
    @stevorama112 ай бұрын

    Cries in Leroy

  • @timdecker6063
    @timdecker60633 ай бұрын

    I didn't even play Tekken til t5 and the only way I began to understand the game, was by using Steve(this was early early KZread days). He was kinda op, but I couldn't really use anyone else. Now I'm kinda screwed, who should I try instead? Also I hate the heat system.

  • @sweetshoez
    @sweetshoez3 ай бұрын

    Hopefully after evo they patch his face and voice too, even if they buff him he’s still maybe the most unappealing character in the game when he used to be one of the coolest

  • @RaamiahMorris

    @RaamiahMorris

    3 ай бұрын

    " Patch His Face " Lmao!!!😂😂😂

  • @redrocketbear9105
    @redrocketbear91053 ай бұрын

    His b12 used to launch on counter hit aswell. That's also gone now.

  • @Ron-nr8lw
    @Ron-nr8lw2 ай бұрын

    Considering he was at one point probably the strongest character in the franchise and maybe even one of the best in fighting games in general they probably walk on egg shells whenever they give him any sort of power nowadays

  • @Valigarmanda

    @Valigarmanda

    2 ай бұрын

    Thing is, he was only super strong in T5. T6 had a lot of other characters stronger than him. T7 is just Feng, King and Akuma bonanza if we're honestly speaking.

  • @Back-Blast
    @Back-Blast3 ай бұрын

    he sounds so much better in tekken 7…

  • @iamauriyone3035
    @iamauriyone30353 ай бұрын

    There are actually MORE nerfs you did not mention! This is what pisses me off about this community, they didn't take away his B1 and gave him a new shitter mixup which just looks cool and everyone is saying he's still good. They don't know absolutely anything about Steve in Tekken7 and the amount of nerfs he got. I wish you could make another video about Steve nerfs but this time Mention EVERYTHING that was better in Tekken7 starting from something simple like how many wallsplat moves they took away, how many CH launchers, the lower damage, nerfs like sonic fang df2 gatling gun flk b2 etc

  • @iamauriyone3035

    @iamauriyone3035

    3 ай бұрын

    Not to forget, they ruined his face, they ruined his voice, his personality, he doesnt seem to shut up yet tells Hwoarang to shut up in their intro, his RA voice line is TERRIBLE. He's wearing a f**king tight Choker like pitbulls and egirls its very homosexual, who tf wears chokers??

  • @josephchase9609
    @josephchase96093 ай бұрын

    He's not even the CH paragon. He needs a little loving. I'd like to see him in heat as have access to more CH tools and to also have a longer heat mode than most, or have CH give him heat back. What's he the paragon of? Paragon down the toilet

  • @Dyleniz
    @Dyleniz3 ай бұрын

    I know namco wanted him to be THE CH specialist but they just removed every other tool other than b1 if they just kept sonic fang rage properties while in heat it would be so much better since he will be rewarded more for landing certain moves also the fact that you can power crush lionheart is bullshit

  • @cursedcrow1033
    @cursedcrow10333 ай бұрын

    Disgusting what they did to him . I mean i enjoy him in T8 but tbh hoping for buffs in May Update 😂

  • @Wikerstervolski
    @Wikerstervolski3 ай бұрын

    I main Yoshi and I plan to have Steve as my secondary. Looks like I have a huge challenge ahead.

  • @gxljx2729
    @gxljx27293 ай бұрын

    As a steve’s main, i feel bad ..

  • @eazypeezy4505
    @eazypeezy45053 ай бұрын

    Bamco don't wanna see no Steves on tourney now. lol

  • @kaizerheikichi3662
    @kaizerheikichi36623 ай бұрын

    Is it just me or steve ki charge voice is like steve is holding himself from pooping himself?

  • @maxmercurythemm827
    @maxmercurythemm8272 ай бұрын

    Tbh Steve mains have been having it easy since 2000 and the one time Steve was below A-tier (which is the arcade version of Tekken 6) didn't last long.

  • @medusashana64
    @medusashana642 ай бұрын

    even will all these nerfs hes still hands down the most fun character in the game for me so uuh imma keep loving em

  • @RyoSuzaki64
    @RyoSuzaki643 ай бұрын

    Steve Season 2 Balance Leak: -Nerfed Steve so he can only mixup into Lionheart, he can’t do combos anymore

  • @booleann___
    @booleann___2 ай бұрын

    I’m a T8 noob and Steve is the character I’ve been learning. This video makes me so sad haha. I can’t believe how much cooler he was in previous games.

  • @sartexir9285
    @sartexir92853 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 really dumbed down a lot and Steve was the sacrificial lamb

  • @user-qd2cs9wl9g
    @user-qd2cs9wl9g3 ай бұрын

    i've started to main him in t8, and its pretty hard to play agains other character who're have more launchers than you and do less

  • @mounirhamiche244
    @mounirhamiche2443 ай бұрын

    After b1 , try 3 into 11 and dash in df2 cancel it into ws22 into lion heart 2

  • @vnquoctru
    @vnquoctru3 ай бұрын

    Biggest nerf is his new voice over

  • @personaxlity
    @personaxlity3 ай бұрын

    Is Steve even a full character at this point. I like playing him but the side references of what other character get has got me thinking lol.

  • @kohakusora7474
    @kohakusora74743 ай бұрын

    BANDAI NAMCO GET YOU ASS OVER HERE AND BUFF STEVE BACK TO GREATNESS. GIVE HIM HIS T7 STATS AGAIN. EVERYTHING.

  • @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4
    @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS43 ай бұрын

    Just like Kaz unfortunately. I hope they both get some deserved buffs in the big patch of May. Otherwise I'm seriously considering quitting this horrible, unenjoyable and uncreative mess of a game..

  • @tristanherb49

    @tristanherb49

    2 ай бұрын

    kaz atleast has a unreactable low steve got nothing.

  • @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4

    @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tristanherb49 I don't know him well tbh. Doesn't he still have the b1 ch, decent jab pressure and throw game as well as good heat (better than Kaz at least)?

  • @KomposedKai
    @KomposedKai2 ай бұрын

    The way they did Steve has to be some sort of dev team joke that only they understand

  • @anthonygarza1900
    @anthonygarza19003 ай бұрын

    This makes me think that they wanted Steve to be mainly a wall pressure character with all the changes from his launchers being shit but near the wall is rewarding. On one hand I think this is cool it gives steve some identity in game that’s mostly rushdown but I feel sorry for the Steve players that played him in other games used to his old game plan now need to adapt use this new one. Edit: literally if they just let him have one launcher and a CH launcher I don’t think people would complain as much but rn he’s so weak compared to the rest of the cast people say Leroy is the weakest but he has some cheap stuff. Can Steve be considered the weakest character rn or am I tripping?

  • @Dead-Lit

    @Dead-Lit

    3 ай бұрын

    Steve has always been good at cornering opponents and applying pressure. In Tekken 8, he's still a rushdown character, but with less damage overall. You're forced to use a stance in difficult situations, and you can't cancel it. In T7, with thousands of hours of experience, I can say that Steve felt limited against other characters. Many characters had "cheap" tools like df+2 launchers (easy damage and combos), which were hard to punish. Steve, on the other hand, had riskier launchers and required timing to punish with CH launchers. This require a lot of work and experience to master his playstyle. Additionally, most of the cast has good pokes (high, mid, low), while Steve only has high and mids. Steve's lows are slow and are only used after well-placed CH launchers and pressure. Despite his limitations, Steve's versatility allowed him to deal with most of the cast. T8 Steve is no longer as versatile as in previous installments imo. He is not the weakest in the cast, but he requires more time and effort to win. It takes more work and experience to master his playstyle, because he no longer has abusive tools. Leroy has suffered a similar fate to Steve, but he has tools that Steve doesn't. In T7, Leroy could be played almost on autopilot, but in T8, you have to work harder to win.

  • @showtimefu1234
    @showtimefu12343 ай бұрын

    I'm just waiting on the may balance patch and he's the only character I know how to play

  • @johndolo853
    @johndolo8533 ай бұрын

    Steve Mains hang in there 😭😭😭 hopefully when the buffs come in May we are blessed

  • @neke9045
    @neke90453 ай бұрын

    I knew he was crap, but dam this video definitely puts it into perspective on how badly he's been nerfed

  • @Azazyne
    @Azazyne3 ай бұрын

    df2 played alot in tekken 7, now its just a move that exists that doesnt need to exist. i feel like they should fixe his stances especially going from move to move, b1,2 should be standard but if holding diag up left should change it to lion heart, and forward should be PAB, hes just not fun to use anymore, not to mention one of the hardest characters to play, with such a sad damage ratio

  • @darkorse9752
    @darkorse97523 ай бұрын

    Can you make a Raven video? I dont see you using him and he's of the coolest.

  • @h3artcxxk
    @h3artcxxk3 ай бұрын

    Bring back the Shiro combo, Namco One of the coolest things a Steve main could show off

  • @dragborn926
    @dragborn92627 күн бұрын

    We are so back

  • @MrOxihom
    @MrOxihom3 ай бұрын

    He honestly shouldn't have even been put in tekken 8, the system and tone they're going for is one Steve can't be apart of because they want super aggressive play rather than pepper with jabs and punches to lead to a counter hit

  • @stevefox1297
    @stevefox12973 ай бұрын

    The lion heart stance is very cool to to watch but it is actually a fake pressure, the need to fix him as soon as possible I can’t play TEKKEN anymore 💔

  • @RobC2201_
    @RobC2201_3 ай бұрын

    wtf did the brits do to harada? he's taking it out on steve lol

  • @dinstra2
    @dinstra23 ай бұрын

    Who would've thought giving Steve a new stance would nerf the character. They really pushed his Lionheart stance onto us. Bummer cuz i wanted to pick up steve this time around

  • @user-hd9ln5zh4t
    @user-hd9ln5zh4t3 ай бұрын

    and his boxing trousers are gone

  • @dapperdan-dw5zl
    @dapperdan-dw5zl3 ай бұрын

    He sounds so much better in Tekken 7!!

  • @jonathanong7937
    @jonathanong79373 ай бұрын

    I got so sad playing steve on T8 i switched to Leroy and Leo... 😢

  • @PsychMan
    @PsychMan3 ай бұрын

    Im a Steve purest, and Ill still play him, but you have to work a lot with him now to get damage and the W. I dont personally like how many of his moves transition into Lionheart and how the risk/reward is absolute shit for him. If his forward ducking 2 launcher had a buff where it was safe on block or reset neutral then maybe it would help. And Steve isnt easy to learn, he has a technical skill gap that requires time to perfect, but its hard to want to do that when hes not strong.

  • @rhandeemanoro8413
    @rhandeemanoro84133 ай бұрын

    I miss the old steve

  • @xXSonTJXx
    @xXSonTJXx3 ай бұрын

    Yeah they did my former 2nd main dirty

  • @Kookos21
    @Kookos213 ай бұрын

    (title) ...and I still lose

  • @georgej9366
    @georgej93663 ай бұрын

    Didn't know the massacred him like ths😂

  • @alterkolobok6419
    @alterkolobok64193 ай бұрын

    Смотрю это видео и понимаю когда играл в Т7 как же он был хорош , и вот что с ним сделали в Т8

  • @CosmicVoid420
    @CosmicVoid4203 ай бұрын

    Time to hop back on Tekken 5?

  • @benskx
    @benskx3 ай бұрын

    T8 Steve is total ass, sucks that they made him so bad when other characters got so much added in T8. B1b can even be punished with a 12f move now, it's ridiculous.

  • @whydoyoukeeptalking

    @whydoyoukeeptalking

    3 ай бұрын

    They knew what they were doing when they destroyed his chin and voice

  • @kiidrecklzz

    @kiidrecklzz

    3 ай бұрын

    b1b is not -12 what are you saying lmfao

  • @DrOutside

    @DrOutside

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kiidrecklzz b1b is -14 actually. It's bugged right now. Go try it out in practice mode. You have to crouch cancel out of FLK to block

  • @kiidrecklzz

    @kiidrecklzz

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@DrOutside thats crazy. im labbing it rn it says -1 but you can 12 frame punish the b1b LOL i tried 13f and 14f punishes and you can block so its -12

  • @kiidrecklzz

    @kiidrecklzz

    3 ай бұрын

    @@DrOutside damn im fujin with steve imagine when they fix this lol

  • @henrynguyen4315
    @henrynguyen43153 ай бұрын

    I hate that moves force you to lionheart

  • @oliverclothezoff3361
    @oliverclothezoff33613 ай бұрын

    The thing that makes me most sad is they took away the combo tool version of duck f2. That felt so fun to execute in a match. Steve combos used to be fun 😢

  • @joejeelfaniega1330
    @joejeelfaniega133016 күн бұрын

    When a fighter was too op that they need to nerf him just to be equal to other fighters Too bad for steve

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